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Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20398]

So, 24 April 2005 02:34

ToolPackinMama

I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".

Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
can't tell you how happy this makes me.

Thank you for your kind attention to this post.

Laura

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20400 ]

So, 24 April 2005 02:39

whodunit

ToolPackinMama wrote:
> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>
> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>
> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>
> Laura

It's better than 'pinkskins' and 'human beans'! ;-)

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20404 ]

So, 24 April 2005 03:27

sdlitvin

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> men and women.

Not true.
The fact that a crewmember on the Enterprise is human doesn't mean he
was born on Earth.

It was established that by Star Trek's era, humans are living on Mars,
and in Earth colonies even much further out in space. So the fact that
some crewmember is human doesn't mean he must have been born on Earth.

Would someone who was born and grew to adulthood in the Martian Colonies
think of himself as an Earth person? I doubt it. Not for long anyway.
Circa 1776, our Founding Fathers stopped thinking of themselves as
Englishmen too, and began thinking of themselves as a new
nationality--Americans.

The allusion to the "Fundamental Declaration of the Martian Colonies"
suggests that this same change in thinking was starting to take place on
Mars.

--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20410 ]

So, 24 April 2005 03:47

nospam

"whodunit" <pillut_48 [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:KUBae.5751$Xb4.2046 [at] newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
> > I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> > it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> > men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
> >
> > Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> > can't tell you how happy this makes me.
> >

Let's not forget the "Terran Empire" of the Mirror Universe!

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20413 ]

So, 24 April 2005 04:28

Benjamin Pavsner

Or the "ugly bags of mostly water"
"whodunit" <pillut_48 [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:KUBae.5751$Xb4.2046 [at] newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
> > I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> > it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> > men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
> >
> > Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> > can't tell you how happy this makes me.
> >
> > Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
> >
> > Laura
>
> It's better than 'pinkskins' and 'human beans'! ;-)

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20417 ]

So, 24 April 2005 05:24

RageForTheMachine

"whodunit" <pillut_48 [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:KUBae.5751$Xb4.2046 [at] newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
> > I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> > it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> > men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
> >
> > Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> > can't tell you how happy this makes me.
> >
> > Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
> >
> > Laura
>
> It's better than 'pinkskins' and 'human beans'! ;-)

Personally I always like "Hugh-Mons"

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20419 ]

So, 24 April 2005 05:54

David B

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>
> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>
> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>
> Laura

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Roddenberry dislike the term
terran?

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20422 ]

So, 24 April 2005 07:04

ToolPackinMama

whodunit wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>
>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
>> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>
>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>
>> Laura
>
>
> It's better than 'pinkskins' and 'human beans'! ;-)

No argument here. :)

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20423 ]

So, 24 April 2005 07:07

ToolPackinMama

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20424 ]

So, 24 April 2005 07:07

ToolPackinMama

RageForTheMachine wrote:

> Personally I always like "Hugh-Mons"

LOL :)

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20425 ]

So, 24 April 2005 07:06

ToolPackinMama

Steven L. wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>> Earth men and women.
>
>
> Not true.
> The fact that a crewmember on the Enterprise is human doesn't mean he
> was born on Earth.

Whoa. I never said that. Chill!

I'm only referring to people who are for sure from Earth.

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20427 ]

So, 24 April 2005 07:13

ToolPackinMama

David B wrote:

> Someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Roddenberry dislike the term
> terran?

So what if he did? BTW, how do you know that?

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20430 ]

So, 24 April 2005 08:08

David B

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> David B wrote:
>
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Roddenberry dislike the term
> > terran?
>
> So what if he did?

I was just wondering.

> BTW, how do you know that?

I read it somewhere.

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20436 ]

So, 24 April 2005 11:15

Graham Kennedy

Joseph S. Powell, III wrote:

> "whodunit" <pillut_48 [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:KUBae.5751$Xb4.2046 [at] newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>>I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
>>>it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
>>>men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>>
>>>Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
>>>can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>>
>
>
>
> Let's not forget the "Terran Empire" of the Mirror Universe!

But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
until In A Mirror, Darkly!

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20442 ]

So, 24 April 2005 13:30

Kweeg

"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:426AE982.3030405 [at] lauragoodwin.org...
> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
> it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
> men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>
> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>
> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.

I call them Eathers.....

--

Qa'pla
Kweeg
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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20454 ]

So, 24 April 2005 16:00

al019

whodunit (pillut_48 [at] sbcglobal.net) wrote:
: ToolPackinMama wrote:
: > I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but
: > it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth
: > men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
: >
: > Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
: > can't tell you how happy this makes me.
: >
: > Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
: >
: > Laura

: It's better than 'pinkskins' and 'human beans'! ;-)

Not to mention "Carbon Units" or "Ugly Bags of Mostly Water"

Brad

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20463 ]

So, 24 April 2005 17:42

sdlitvin

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> Steven L. wrote:
>
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>>> Earth men and women.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not true.
>> The fact that a crewmember on the Enterprise is human doesn't mean he
>> was born on Earth.
>
>
> Whoa. I never said that. Chill!
>
> I'm only referring to people who are for sure from Earth.

What did you mean by "In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth men and
women"???

In TOS, humans are *not* "all from Earth." Lots of humans are living on
other planets, presumably having children there.

--
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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20465 ]

So, 24 April 2005 18:36

Wouter Valentijn

ToolPackinMama wrote:
> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>
> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>
> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>

Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp magazine
Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as Terrans.
For the first 1,500 issues or so they had an empire called the Solar Empire.
And after that they had a 'League of Free Terrans'.
http://www.perry-rhodan-usa.com/
http://www.perry-rhodan.us/faq/faq.html

The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar Galactica
and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well afaik.

--
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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20468 ]

So, 24 April 2005 19:31

Graham Kennedy

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>>I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>>but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>>Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>
>>Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
>>can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>
>>Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>
>
>
> Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp magazine
> Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as Terrans.

I only ever read half a dozen of those, but they were
great! Real space opera stuff. I liked Pucky!

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20470 ]

So, 24 April 2005 19:43

ToolPackinMama

Steven L. wrote:

> What did you mean by "In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth men and
> women"???
>
> In TOS, humans are *not* "all from Earth." Lots of humans are living on
> other planets, presumably having children there.

_I never said all humans in TOS are from Earth_, I said WE are from Earth.

~WE~ ARE all from Earth you know. I don't think there are actually any
non-Earthings reading this, do you?

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20472 ]

So, 24 April 2005 19:45

ToolPackinMama

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

> The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar Galactica
> and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well afaik.

I like it, even though it seems ironic that our planet is called Earth
or Terra, since the surface is mostly water. :)

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20485 ]

So, 24 April 2005 21:29

Graham Kennedy

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>
>> The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar
>> Galactica
>> and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well afaik.
>
>
> I like it, even though it seems ironic that our planet is called Earth
> or Terra, since the surface is mostly water. :)

The dolphins and whales probably call it Aqua. :-)

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20492 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 00:02

Wouter Valentijn

Graham Kennedy wrote:
> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>
>>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>>> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>>
>>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once.
>>> I can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp
>> magazine Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as
>> Terrans.
>
> I only ever read half a dozen of those, but they were
> great! Real space opera stuff. I liked Pucky!

Pucky?
Maybe you mean the mouse beaver or ilt named Gucky? Or maybe Pucky was his
name in the English language version. Mutant with the powers of
telekinesis, telepathy and teleportation.
I read over 500 of those. I started with 490 just when the Gruelfin (sp?)
cycle was coming to closure and really got into it with the Swarm cycle (500
to 569).

--
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www.scifics.com
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liam=mail

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20494 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 00:07

Wouter Valentijn

Graham Kennedy wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>
>>> The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar
>>> Galactica
>>> and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well afaik.
>>
>>
>> I like it, even though it seems ironic that our planet is called
>> Earth or Terra, since the surface is mostly water. :)
>
> The dolphins and whales probably call it Aqua. :-)

Or Neptune perhaps (sticking to Roman gods), and getting very confused when
we talk to them about the other Neptune in our solar system. :)

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20497 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 00:15

Graham Kennedy

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

> Graham Kennedy wrote:
>
>>Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>>>>but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>>>>Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>>>
>>>>Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once.
>>>>I can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp
>>>magazine Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as
>>>Terrans.
>>
>>I only ever read half a dozen of those, but they were
>>great! Real space opera stuff. I liked Pucky!
>
>
> Pucky?
> Maybe you mean the mouse beaver or ilt named Gucky? Or maybe Pucky was his
> name in the English language version.

Yes, they changed it for the English books.

> Mutant with the powers of
> telekinesis, telepathy and teleportation.
> I read over 500 of those. I started with 490 just when the Gruelfin (sp?)
> cycle was coming to closure and really got into it with the Swarm cycle (500
> to 569).

They were hard to find in England. I came across two or
three in an old box of books we got in a jumble sale,
and I found a few more in a library once. My all time
favourite was the one where they went to a hospital
planet, they had this massive army of four armed
soldier robots with them. As a kid, that was an
amazing thing to imagine.

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #20521 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 02:59

ToolPackinMama

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22068 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 17:51

Nightspirit

"Wouter Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote in
news:426bca1c$0$161$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl:

> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>
>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
>> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>
>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>
>
> Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp
> magazine Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as Terrans.
> For the first 1,500 issues or so they had an empire called the Solar
> Empire. And after that they had a 'League of Free Terrans'.
> http://www.perry-rhodan-usa.com/
> http://www.perry-rhodan.us/faq/faq.html
>
> The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar
> Galactica and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well afaik.
>

I read about 3 Perry Rodan books when I was a teen and one Captain Future
in those days. I don't think they were very popular here in the states.
I enjoyed them and they were a good fun read.

--
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with ketchup.

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22073 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 18:27

Jedtere Avilis

If you translate "Earth people" in french, the result is "terriens" Since my
first langugage is french, i've been use terrien all my life. Nothing new
for me.

"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:426AE982.3030405 [at] lauragoodwin.org...
>I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people, but it
>was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are Earth men and
>women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>
> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>
> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>
> Laura

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22082 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 19:35

Wouter Valentijn

Graham Kennedy wrote:
> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>
>> Graham Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth
>>>>> people, but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from
>>>>> Earth, we are Earth men and women. The Klingons call us
>>>>> "Earthers".
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once.
>>>>> I can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp
>>>> magazine Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as
>>>> Terrans.
>>>
>>> I only ever read half a dozen of those, but they were
>>> great! Real space opera stuff. I liked Pucky!
>>
>>
>> Pucky?
>> Maybe you mean the mouse beaver or ilt named Gucky? Or maybe Pucky
>> was his name in the English language version.
>
> Yes, they changed it for the English books.

Ah, okay.

>
>> Mutant with the powers of
>> telekinesis, telepathy and teleportation.
>> I read over 500 of those. I started with 490 just when the Gruelfin
>> (sp?) cycle was coming to closure and really got into it with the
>> Swarm cycle (500 to 569).
>
> They were hard to find in England. I came across two or
> three in an old box of books we got in a jumble sale,
> and I found a few more in a library once. My all time
> favourite was the one where they went to a hospital
> planet, they had this massive army of four armed
> soldier robots with them. As a kid, that was an
> amazing thing to imagine.

Hospital planet.... They mentioned several of those I think.... (It's been a
while).
Could it possibly be the Posbi planet, aka World of a hundred suns (or
something like that?).

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22085 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 19:35

Graham Kennedy

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

>
> Hospital planet.... They mentioned several of those I think.... (It's been a
> while).
> Could it possibly be the Posbi planet, aka World of a hundred suns (or
> something like that?).

I seem to remember it was something about the "Aras" or
something... not sure though.

--
Graham Kennedy

Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22086 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 19:44

Wouter Valentijn

nightspirit wrote:
> "Wouter Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote in
> news:426bca1c$0$161$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl:
>
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>>> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>>
>>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once.
>>> I can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>>
>>
>> Which reminds me of the long running German Science Fiction pulp
>> magazine Perry Rhodan in which humans are also referred to as
>> Terrans. For the first 1,500 issues or so they had an empire called
>> the Solar Empire. And after that they had a 'League of Free Terrans'.
>> http://www.perry-rhodan-usa.com/
>> http://www.perry-rhodan.us/faq/faq.html
>>
>> The name Terra or Terran was also used in the original Battlestar
>> Galactica and in Buck Rogers. And several other stories as well
>> afaik.
>>
>
> I read about 3 Perry Rodan books when I was a teen and one Captain
> Future in those days. I don't think they were very popular here in
> the states. I enjoyed them and they were a good fun read.

Yes. I read them somewhere between the ages of 14 and .... somewhere in my
mid-twenties.
I do think they never broke through in the US.
Captain Future I first knew from the cartoon series.

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22089 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 20:05

Wouter Valentijn

Jedtere Avilis wrote:
>
> "ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
> news:426AE982.3030405 [at] lauragoodwin.org...
>> I have always loved the term "Terran" for referring to Earth people,
>> but it was never used in TOS. In TOS we are all from Earth, we are
>> Earth men and women. The Klingons call us "Earthers".
>>
>> Well, hoorah, hoorah, we are caled Terrans in ST5, more than once. I
>> can't tell you how happy this makes me.
>>
>> Thank you for your kind attention to this post.
>>

> If you translate "Earth people" in french, the result is "terriens"
> Since my first langugage is french, i've been use terrien all my
> life. Nothing new for me.

Of course. Terra means Earth ('Aarde' in Dutch). The Greeks called her Gaia.
But keeping in pace with names given in our (western) world to the planets
Terra (Roman) would be more appropriate.
And even then there can be slight differences.
Over here we use some different varriations in spelling (and in all cases in
pronunciation) for planet names: Mercurius (Mercury), Saturnus (Saturn),
Neptunes (Neptune).

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22090 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 20:19

Wouter Valentijn

Graham Kennedy wrote:
> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>
>>
>> Hospital planet.... They mentioned several of those I think....
>> (It's been a while).
>> Could it possibly be the Posbi planet, aka World of a hundred suns
>> (or something like that?).
>
> I seem to remember it was something about the "Aras" or
> something... not sure though.

<slams forehead>

The Aras of course!
Yeah, some sort of galactic doctors. But not very ethical ones if I recall.
There were an off-shoot of the Akonides or Arkonides (I think those would be
their names in English).
The Akonides were an off-shoot of the Lemurians or First Humanity that had
an empire on Earth 50,000 years ago that was destroyed by The Beasts
(artificial biological war machines from another galaxy).
Earth's civilization was destroyed and those that didn't leave Earth became
our ancestors and those that fled wound up in several parts of the Galaxy,
including Akon. The bulk of course escaped to the Andromeda galaxy and
became the dominant species there.

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22096 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 21:02

zod666

> But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
> is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
> wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
> the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
> until In A Mirror, Darkly!
>

i'm trying to remember to timeline of release stuff, but didn't ST:V
come out before the best of both worlds, and there were terran
references in it?

- BRian

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22100 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 21:14

Graham Kennedy

Wouter Valentijn wrote:

> Graham Kennedy wrote:
>
>>Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hospital planet.... They mentioned several of those I think....
>>>(It's been a while).
>>>Could it possibly be the Posbi planet, aka World of a hundred suns
>>>(or something like that?).
>>
>>I seem to remember it was something about the "Aras" or
>>something... not sure though.
>
>
> <slams forehead>
>
> The Aras of course!
> Yeah, some sort of galactic doctors. But not very ethical ones if I recall.
> There were an off-shoot of the Akonides or Arkonides (I think those would be
> their names in English).
> The Akonides were an off-shoot of the Lemurians or First Humanity that had
> an empire on Earth 50,000 years ago that was destroyed by The Beasts
> (artificial biological war machines from another galaxy).
> Earth's civilization was destroyed and those that didn't leave Earth became
> our ancestors and those that fled wound up in several parts of the Galaxy,
> including Akon. The bulk of course escaped to the Andromeda galaxy and
> became the dominant species there.

Wow, you know *way* more about all this than I do!

Yeah, I don't remember what the Aras were up to that
upset everybody, but it was something about medical
experiments or some such. Really the only two things
I remember from the book was the armies of war robots
and the main bad guy falling down a massive lift
shaft at the end, with Pucky flatly refusing to save
him even though Rhodan ordered him to.

I loved the one set on the giant high gee planet,
Gomon I think it was called? With an alien that was
made of little flat pancake critters that could join
together and network their brains to become one
giant super-mind. It was unusual to have people on
non-Earthlike worlds even in books , so that was
cool.

And I managed to find book #1 in the library, so I
saw how it all started off.

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22102 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 21:19

Graham Kennedy

Brian (aka Zod) wrote:

>
>> But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
>> is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
>> wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
>> the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
>> until In A Mirror, Darkly!
>>
>
> i'm trying to remember to timeline of release stuff, but didn't ST:V
> come out before the best of both worlds, and there were terran
> references in it?

Yes it did come out first. I always thought they only
referred to Humans though, not Terrans? I'm not sure.

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22109 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 23:12

ToolPackinMama

Graham Kennedy wrote:
> Brian (aka Zod) wrote:
>
>>
>>> But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
>>> is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
>>> wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
>>> the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
>>> until In A Mirror, Darkly!
>>>
>>
>> i'm trying to remember to timeline of release stuff, but didn't ST:V
>> come out before the best of both worlds, and there were terran
>> references in it?
>
>
> Yes it did come out first. I always thought they only
> referred to Humans though, not Terrans? I'm not sure.
>
Earth people are called Terrans in STV. I don't know about BOBW.

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22112 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 23:17

Graham Kennedy

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> Graham Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Brian (aka Zod) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
>>>> is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
>>>> wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
>>>> the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
>>>> until In A Mirror, Darkly!
>>>>
>>>
>>> i'm trying to remember to timeline of release stuff, but didn't ST:V
>>> come out before the best of both worlds, and there were terran
>>> references in it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it did come out first. I always thought they only
>> referred to Humans though, not Terrans? I'm not sure.
>>
> Earth people are called Terrans in STV. I don't know about BOBW.

In BOBW Worf reports the cube on course for sector 001,
"The Terran system".

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Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22113 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 23:27

GeneK

"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote...
> But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
> is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
> wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
> the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
> until In A Mirror, Darkly!

The earliest use of the term in Trek that I can recall was in TAS
("Terratin Incident"). The Terratins turn out to be the descendants
of a lost early Earth colony that had originally been called "Terra Ten."
Canonicity: beats the hell outa me.

GeneK

Re: Earth people = Terrans: it's canon [message #22115 ]

Mo, 25 April 2005 23:47

Graham Kennedy

GeneK wrote:

> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote...
>
>>But minor bit of trivia - the term "Terran" or "Terran Empire"
>>is never once used in the original TOS episode. In fact, it
>>wasn't until Best of Both Worlds that they called our system
>>the Terran system, and the term "Terran Empire" was never used
>>until In A Mirror, Darkly!
>
>
> The earliest use of the term in Trek that I can recall was in TAS
> ("Terratin Incident"). The Terratins turn out to be the descendants
> of a lost early Earth colony that had originally been called "Terra Ten."
> Canonicity: beats the hell outa me.

I always liked "Earthling" myself. It always calls to mind
insectoid aliens with ray guns. "Prepare to DIE, puny
Earthling!!!!"

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