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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » Re: Notes from a Flat Land
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251470] So, 09 April 2006 09:23
steelcat  
>On 28 Mar 2006 07:05:29 -0800, "GenericUnique"
><genericunique [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>3) The TV is mostly awful. BBC America fails to provide any kind of
>>sanctuary. BENNY HILL.

If you mean the rotten stuff he did for American TV later in his life, then
I agree. I bought a DVD of "Benny Hill's World: New York" recently and I
was amazed at the low quality of the material. Comparing his UK work to his
US work is like comparing Ronnie Barker to Jim Carey. (And I hope the
spirit of Mr. Barker will forgive me for even mentioning him in the same
sentence as that unfunny clod.)

Cat.
--
Jazz-Loving Soul Mate and Tolerable Frog to CCA
Joe & Archi
Bald Tit
Marsh
Sign Wr
Iters
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251642 ] Mo, 10 April 2006 07:26
aqusenet  
The Stainless Steel Cat <steelcat [at] atuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >On 28 Mar 2006 07:05:29 -0800, "GenericUnique"
> ><genericunique [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>3) The TV is mostly awful. BBC America fails to provide any kind of
> >>sanctuary. BENNY HILL.
>
> If you mean the rotten stuff he did for American TV later in his life, then
> I agree. I bought a DVD of "Benny Hill's World: New York" recently and I
> was amazed at the low quality of the material. Comparing his UK work to his
> US work is like comparing Ronnie Barker to Jim Carey. (And I hope the
> spirit of Mr. Barker will forgive me for even mentioning him in the same
> sentence as that unfunny clod.)

I have fully enjoyed two Jim Carrey movies.

One was The Truman Show, the other Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
Mind, and both I rate very highly.

Basically, I'm of the opinion he's a better actor than comic, although
his comic timing - though not his delivery - helps with the former.
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252281 ] Do, 13 April 2006 02:58
Aggie  
"Aquarion" <aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:1hdjo22.1gkycb21u1h5xlN%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com...
> The Stainless Steel Cat <steelcat [at] atuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >On 28 Mar 2006 07:05:29 -0800, "GenericUnique"
>> ><genericunique [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>3) The TV is mostly awful. BBC America fails to provide any kind of
>> >>sanctuary. BENNY HILL.
>>
>> If you mean the rotten stuff he did for American TV later in his life,
>> then
>> I agree. I bought a DVD of "Benny Hill's World: New York" recently and I
>> was amazed at the low quality of the material. Comparing his UK work to
>> his
>> US work is like comparing Ronnie Barker to Jim Carey. (And I hope the
>> spirit of Mr. Barker will forgive me for even mentioning him in the same
>> sentence as that unfunny clod.)
>
> I have fully enjoyed two Jim Carrey movies.
>
> One was The Truman Show, the other Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
> Mind, and both I rate very highly.
>
> Basically, I'm of the opinion he's a better actor than comic, although
> his comic timing - though not his delivery - helps with the former.

I find Jim Carrey utterly creepy, and I'm not sure why. But I always find
myself repressing shudders when I watch him.
Bleah.
Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252417 ] Do, 13 April 2006 19:16
Lesley Weston  
in article Zmh%f.6217$i41.5847 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, Aggie at
aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid wrote on 12/04/2006 5:58 PM:

>
> "Aquarion" <aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:1hdjo22.1gkycb21u1h5xlN%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com...
>> The Stainless Steel Cat <steelcat [at] atuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 28 Mar 2006 07:05:29 -0800, "GenericUnique"
>>>> <genericunique [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 3) The TV is mostly awful. BBC America fails to provide any kind of
>>>>> sanctuary. BENNY HILL.
>>>
>>> If you mean the rotten stuff he did for American TV later in his life,
>>> then
>>> I agree. I bought a DVD of "Benny Hill's World: New York" recently and I
>>> was amazed at the low quality of the material. Comparing his UK work to
>>> his
>>> US work is like comparing Ronnie Barker to Jim Carey. (And I hope the
>>> spirit of Mr. Barker will forgive me for even mentioning him in the same
>>> sentence as that unfunny clod.)
>>
>> I have fully enjoyed two Jim Carrey movies.
>>
>> One was The Truman Show, the other Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
>> Mind, and both I rate very highly.
>>
>> Basically, I'm of the opinion he's a better actor than comic, although
>> his comic timing - though not his delivery - helps with the former.
>
> I find Jim Carrey utterly creepy, and I'm not sure why. But I always find
> myself repressing shudders when I watch him.
> Bleah.

AOL. He was really good as one of the Not Ready for Prime Time Players -
perhaps because he was unknown then and therefore had to listen to the
director. Now he's a Star, and every time I try to watch a performance of
his I find myself cringing and creeped out.

--
Lesley Weston.

Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252468 ] Do, 13 April 2006 22:02
Eric Jarvis  
Lesley Weston brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk wrote in
<C063D568.45A71%brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk>:
> in article Zmh%f.6217$i41.5847 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, Aggie at
> aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid wrote on 12/04/2006 5:58 PM:
>
> > I find Jim Carrey utterly creepy, and I'm not sure why. But I always find
> > myself repressing shudders when I watch him.
> > Bleah.
>
> AOL. He was really good as one of the Not Ready for Prime Time Players -
> perhaps because he was unknown then and therefore had to listen to the
> director. Now he's a Star, and every time I try to watch a performance of
> his I find myself cringing and creeped out.
>

I think he's rather good. However he gives the impression that he thinks
he's a lot better than he actually is. That may be an entirely misleading
impression, but it's why I don't consider his name on a cast list to be a
reason to watch something.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252540 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:37
Aggie  
"Lesley Weston" <brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:C063D568.45A71%brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk...
> in article Zmh%f.6217$i41.5847 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, Aggie at
> aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid wrote on 12/04/2006 5:58 PM:
>
>>
>> "Aquarion" <aqusenet [at] mailinator.com> wrote in message
>> news:1hdjo22.1gkycb21u1h5xlN%aqusenet [at] mailinator.com...
>>> The Stainless Steel Cat <steelcat [at] atuin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2006 07:05:29 -0800, "GenericUnique"
>>>>> <genericunique [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) The TV is mostly awful. BBC America fails to provide any kind of
>>>>>> sanctuary. BENNY HILL.
>>>>
>>>> If you mean the rotten stuff he did for American TV later in his life,
>>>> then
>>>> I agree. I bought a DVD of "Benny Hill's World: New York" recently and
>>>> I
>>>> was amazed at the low quality of the material. Comparing his UK work to
>>>> his
>>>> US work is like comparing Ronnie Barker to Jim Carey. (And I hope the
>>>> spirit of Mr. Barker will forgive me for even mentioning him in the
>>>> same
>>>> sentence as that unfunny clod.)
>>>
>>> I have fully enjoyed two Jim Carrey movies.
>>>
>>> One was The Truman Show, the other Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless
>>> Mind, and both I rate very highly.
>>>
>>> Basically, I'm of the opinion he's a better actor than comic, although
>>> his comic timing - though not his delivery - helps with the former.
>>
>> I find Jim Carrey utterly creepy, and I'm not sure why. But I always find
>> myself repressing shudders when I watch him.
>> Bleah.
>
> AOL. He was really good as one of the Not Ready for Prime Time Players -
> perhaps because he was unknown then and therefore had to listen to the
> director. Now he's a Star, and every time I try to watch a performance of
> his I find myself cringing and creeped out.
>
> --
> Lesley Weston.

He's actually married to a woman and stuff. I dunno how she stands it. :p
Lots of penicillin and tranquilizers? :p

Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252541 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:38
Aggie  
"Eric Jarvis" <web [at] ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ea8be9fb4796765989ae1 [at] cenote.gkhs.net...
> Lesley Weston brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk wrote in
> <C063D568.45A71%brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk>:
>> in article Zmh%f.6217$i41.5847 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, Aggie at
>> aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid wrote on 12/04/2006 5:58 PM:
>>
>> > I find Jim Carrey utterly creepy, and I'm not sure why. But I always
>> > find
>> > myself repressing shudders when I watch him.
>> > Bleah.
>>
>> AOL. He was really good as one of the Not Ready for Prime Time Players -
>> perhaps because he was unknown then and therefore had to listen to the
>> director. Now he's a Star, and every time I try to watch a performance of
>> his I find myself cringing and creeped out.
>>
>
> I think he's rather good. However he gives the impression that he thinks
> he's a lot better than he actually is. That may be an entirely misleading
> impression, but it's why I don't consider his name on a cast list to be a
> reason to watch something.
>
> --
> eric

I consider him someone to be whacked with a very large clown hammer. Now
watch Sam Raimi give him a part in TWFM. :(

16 Ton Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252544 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:45
Stacie Hanes  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
<Jim Carrey>

> I think he's rather good. However he gives the impression that he
> thinks he's a lot better than he actually is. That may be an
> entirely misleading impression, but it's why I don't consider his
> name on a cast list to be a reason to watch something.

I consider it a good reason to avoid something.

I think he's a talentad actor, but it's possible to be good at something
that I really don't want to watch. So, he may be a good actor, but I can't
stand him.

--
Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion & AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible
warning." Catherine Aird, _His Burial Too_
http://esmeraldus.blogspot.com/
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252565 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 08:47
geminii  
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:45:51 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>Eric Jarvis wrote:
><Jim Carrey>
>
>> I think he's rather good. However he gives the impression that he
>> thinks he's a lot better than he actually is. That may be an
>> entirely misleading impression, but it's why I don't consider his
>> name on a cast list to be a reason to watch something.
>
>I consider it a good reason to avoid something.
>
>I think he's a talentad actor, but it's possible to be good at something
>that I really don't want to watch. So, he may be a good actor, but I can't
>stand him.

I think he does surprisingly well at mostly-serious roles - shockingly so,
on occasion.

However, he made his name in sketch comedy, so the shortest distance to
film acting was slapstick movies, which, OK, yes, he can do, but they're
not generally known for quality scripts, direction or performances.

The problem is that he rarely gets offered a _Truman Show_ or _Eternal
Sunshine of the Spotless Mind_, partially because good scripts are rare in
Hollywood anyway, but also because there are names associated with the
idea of good dramatic scripts and his isn't one of them.

Then there's half-directed drek like _Fun with Dick and Jane_, which
presumably pays the bills but doesn't help shift his name towards meatier
roles. And there's always the danger that he could be perceived as not
wanting the comedy roles that put food on his table, and end up as a
C-lister instead of just a B-lister, so he can't push too far too soon.

I'll freely admit I don't tend to rush out and watch any comedy he's cast
in these days, although I won't instantly condemn anything he's in either.
It seems his career's a bit in flux - it could take off again or it could
collapse. Who knows?


-SteveD
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252641 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 17:47
Stacie Hanes  
geminii [at] tpg.com.au wrote:
<Jim Carrey>

> It seems his career's a bit in flux - it
> could take off again or it could collapse. Who knows?

All that's true. I thought _The Truman Show_ was watchable, once through. I
won't watch it again, though, while I watched _Resident Evil_ four times in
one day last week. Sure, it was more playing in the background than actuall
watching, but still. And I freely admit that FaCVoB, the Carrey movie is a
better movie.

Carrey just rubs my fur the wrong way.

I love Dana Carvey's sketch comedy, think his movies are stupid. But he
doesn't make me want to drop him in a river tied in a sack, while Carrey
does.

--
Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion & AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible
warning." Catherine Aird, _His Burial Too_
http://esmeraldus.blogspot.com/
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #258659 ] Fr, 21 April 2006 00:46
Aggie  
"Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9uP%f.3120$BS2.3059 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> geminii [at] tpg.com.au wrote:
> <Jim Carrey>
>
>> It seems his career's a bit in flux - it
>> could take off again or it could collapse. Who knows?
>
> All that's true. I thought _The Truman Show_ was watchable, once through.
> I won't watch it again, though, while I watched _Resident Evil_ four times
> in one day last week. Sure, it was more playing in the background than
> actuall watching, but still. And I freely admit that FaCVoB, the Carrey
> movie is a better movie.
>
> Carrey just rubs my fur the wrong way.
>
> I love Dana Carvey's sketch comedy, think his movies are stupid. But he
> doesn't make me want to drop him in a river tied in a sack, while Carrey
> does.
>
> --
> Stacie,

Lemme know if you need extra rocks...

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