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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » Re: Passport for Scottish Masters
Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #250908] Fr, 07 April 2006 01:27
Louis Epstein  
carsten1 [at] webtv.net wrote:
: Peter Tilman wrote:"<carsten1 [at] webtv.net> wrote in message
: news:28510-4422D6B4-28 [at] storefull-3153.bay.webtv.net...
: So how would one address The Hon Joseph MacBlow, The Master of
: Dingleberrie? Mr MacBlow, Dingleberrie, or what?
: "Master"."
: --------------------------
: Thank you for answering, Peter, but I still can't help but wonder, if
: said person was invited to, say, Balmoral for tea with the Queen, would
: she say, "Would you care for some more tea, Master"?
: If he was elected to Parliament, and addressed a question to the PM,
: would the PM say, "Master, the answer is....."?

Hmmm...I know that early in the 20th century the Master of Elibank
was a Liberal MP (he eventually went to the Lords as 1st and last
Lord Murray of Elibank but never succeeded his father in the Elibank
viscounty (now extinct).

: If he were to give evidence in court, would the QC say, "Master, what
: did you see when...."?
: For myself, I can't imagine calling another man "Master" and keeping a
: straight face. It would feel too much like Saturday night in Weimar
: Berlin.

Just imagine you are an Igor....or a genie.

: Carsten.

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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #250912 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 01:52
Don Aitken  
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:27:12 -0500, Louis Epstein <le [at] main.put.com>
wrote:

>carsten1 [at] webtv.net wrote:
>: Peter Tilman wrote:"<carsten1 [at] webtv.net> wrote in message
>: news:28510-4422D6B4-28 [at] storefull-3153.bay.webtv.net...
>: So how would one address The Hon Joseph MacBlow, The Master of
>: Dingleberrie? Mr MacBlow, Dingleberrie, or what?
>: "Master"."
>: --------------------------
>: Thank you for answering, Peter, but I still can't help but wonder, if
>: said person was invited to, say, Balmoral for tea with the Queen, would
>: she say, "Would you care for some more tea, Master"?
>: If he was elected to Parliament, and addressed a question to the PM,
>: would the PM say, "Master, the answer is....."?
>
>Hmmm...I know that early in the 20th century the Master of Elibank
>was a Liberal MP (he eventually went to the Lords as 1st and last
>Lord Murray of Elibank but never succeeded his father in the Elibank
>viscounty (now extinct).
>
Quite a prominent one, too. He was Liberal Chief Whip for a number of
years. His colleagues did indeed address him as "Master", as
contemporary memoirs atest.

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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #250927 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 02:47
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called obab32prhdsfb5eetf8fp1p6k8h6pm8h8r [at] 4ax.com,
Don Aitken uttered thus:
> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:27:12 -0500, Louis Epstein <le [at] main.put.com>
> wrote:
>
> > carsten1 [at] webtv.net wrote:
> > > Peter Tilman wrote:"<carsten1 [at] webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > news:28510-4422D6B4-28 [at] storefull-3153.bay.webtv.net...
> > > So how would one address The Hon Joseph MacBlow, The Master of
> > > Dingleberrie? Mr MacBlow, Dingleberrie, or what?
> > > "Master"."
> > > --------------------------
> > > Thank you for answering, Peter, but I still can't help but
> > > wonder, if said person was invited to, say, Balmoral for tea
> > > with the Queen, would she say, "Would you care for some more
> > > tea, Master"?
> > > If he was elected to Parliament, and addressed a question to
> > > the PM, would the PM say, "Master, the answer is....."?
> >
> > Hmmm...I know that early in the 20th century the Master of Elibank
> > was a Liberal MP (he eventually went to the Lords as 1st and last
> > Lord Murray of Elibank but never succeeded his father in the
> > Elibank viscounty (now extinct).
> >
> Quite a prominent one, too. He was Liberal Chief Whip for a number
> of years. His colleagues did indeed address him as "Master", as
> contemporary memoirs atest.

Does anyone have the faintest idea why we've got this?

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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #250931 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 03:51
Jens Ayton  
Brian Wakeling:
>
[stuff crossposted from alt.talk.royalty]
>
> Does anyone have the faintest idea why we've got this?
>

Probably due to the sentence "Just imagine you are an Igor....or a
genie."


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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #250960 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 11:58
Geoff Field  
Don Aitken wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:27:12 -0500, Louis Epstein <le [at] main.put.com>
> wrote:
[snip]
>> Hmmm...I know that early in the 20th century the Master of Elibank
>> was a Liberal MP (he eventually went to the Lords as 1st and last
>> Lord Murray of Elibank but never succeeded his father in the Elibank
>> viscounty (now extinct).
>>
> Quite a prominent one, too. He was Liberal Chief Whip for a number of
> years. His colleagues did indeed address him as "Master", as
> contemporary memoirs atest.

I can't help but smile when I think of a "Chief Whip" being called "Master".
I'm sure Stacie - and possibly Graham, too - might have a similar reaction.

Geoff


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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #251165 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 00:59
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called mAjZf.51375$d5.207383 [at] newsb.telia.net,
Jens Ayton uttered thus:
> Brian Wakeling:
> >
> [stuff crossposted from alt.talk.royalty]
> >
> > Does anyone have the faintest idea why we've got this?
> >
>
> Probably due to the sentence "Just imagine you are an Igor....or a
> genie."

Ah yes. Right at the bottom of the first post, which the second post
didn't quote as far to. I see it now.

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Re: [I] Passport for Scottish Masters [message #251195 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 02:19
Jens Ayton  
Brian Wakeling:
> Jens Ayton:
>> Brian Wakeling:
>>
>> [stuff crossposted from alt.talk.royalty]
>>> Does anyone have the faintest idea why we've got this?
>>>
>> Probably due to the sentence "Just imagine you are an Igor....or a
>> genie."
>
> Ah yes. Right at the bottom of the first post, which the second post
> didn't quote as far to. I see it now.

See? Now that's detectoring.


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Re: Passport for Scottish Masters [message #251562 ] So, 09 April 2006 19:29
raltbos  
"Geoff Field" <geoff_field [at] suespammers.org> wrote:

> Don Aitken wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:27:12 -0500, Louis Epstein <le [at] main.put.com>
> > wrote:
> [snip]
> >> Hmmm...I know that early in the 20th century the Master of Elibank
> >> was a Liberal MP (he eventually went to the Lords as 1st and last
> >> Lord Murray of Elibank but never succeeded his father in the Elibank
> >> viscounty (now extinct).
> >>
> > Quite a prominent one, too. He was Liberal Chief Whip for a number of
> > years. His colleagues did indeed address him as "Master", as
> > contemporary memoirs atest.
>
> I can't help but smile when I think of a "Chief Whip" being called "Master".
> I'm sure Stacie - and possibly Graham, too - might have a similar reaction.

Mind you, Rumour (which is almost as commanding as Tradition) has it
that many are quite the opposite in their private (or not-so-private,
when got hold of by the Dailies) life.

Richard
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