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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » Re: Notes from a Flat Land
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250394] Di, 04 April 2006 20:25
Matthew Seaman  
"Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:

> Aggie wrote:
> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
> > beers every night
>
> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for me.

Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.

Cheers,

Matthew

--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250470 ] Mi, 05 April 2006 01:23
Aggie  
"Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Aggie wrote:
>> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
>> > beers every night
>>
>> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
>> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for me.
>
> Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
> leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew

You say that like it's a *bad* thing.

A Puzzled Aggie
;)
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250526 ] Mi, 05 April 2006 09:43
Hendrik Schober  
Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>>> Aggie wrote:
>>> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
>>> > beers every night
>>>
>>> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
>>> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for me.
>>
>> Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
>> leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>
> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.

You know, Aggie, I really like your POV which seems
to enable you to repeatadly hand out such remarks as
if it was nothing. :o>

> A Puzzled Aggie
> ;)

Schobi,
now approaching a scary day with a smile

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250553 ] Mi, 05 April 2006 14:42
Flesh-eating Dragon  
Hendrik Schober wrote:

> Schobi,
> now approaching a scary day with a smile

Yikes. That's the worst kind of scary day you can have. If a scary day
is smiling, it's planning a scary night.

Adrian.
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250561 ] Mi, 05 April 2006 15:11
Stacie Hanes  
8'FED wrote:
> Hendrik Schober wrote:
>
>> Schobi,
>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>
> Yikes. That's the worst kind of scary day you can have. If a scary
> day is smiling, it's planning a scary night.


ROFL

I have to save that for something....

--
Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion & AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible
warning." Catherine Aird, _His Burial Too_
http://esmeraldus.blogspot.com/
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250590 ] Mi, 05 April 2006 17:58
Hendrik Schober  
8'FED <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> wrote:
> Hendrik Schober wrote:
>
>> Schobi,
>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>
> Yikes. That's the worst kind of scary day you can have. If a scary day
> is smiling, it's planning a scary night.

<grin>

The scary night is behind me already...

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250689 ] Do, 06 April 2006 02:26
Aggie  
"Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
news:e0vsod$7jh$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
> Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>>> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>>>> Aggie wrote:
>>>> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
>>>> > beers every night
>>>>
>>>> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
>>>> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for
>>>> me.
>>>
>>> Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
>>> leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>>
>> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.
>
> You know, Aggie, I really like your POV which seems
> to enable you to repeatadly hand out such remarks as
> if it was nothing. :o>
>
>> A Puzzled Aggie
>> ;)
>
> Schobi,
> now approaching a scary day with a smile

Oh if you only knew what I had to go through to develop this POV... ;) I
live a large portion of my life stuck in a Fellini movie which wouldn't be
so bad, except the soundtrack is getting to me.

I am glad you're smiling though. :)
Why was your day scary, unless it's none o' my bidness?

Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250715 ] Do, 06 April 2006 04:14
Brenda  
Hendrik Schober said:

> 8'FED <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> wrote:
>> Hendrik Schober wrote:
>>
>>> Schobi,
>>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>>
>> Yikes. That's the worst kind of scary day you can have. If a scary day
>> is smiling, it's planning a scary night.
>
> <grin>
>
> The scary night is behind me already...

If it's behind you, then presumably it's creeping up on you whilst you're
not looking.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250751 ] Do, 06 April 2006 09:46
Hendrik Schober  
Richard Heathfield <invalid [at] invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hendrik Schober said:
>
>> 8'FED <dragon [at] netyp.com.au> wrote:
>>> Hendrik Schober wrote:
>>>
>>>> Schobi,
>>>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>>>
>>> Yikes. That's the worst kind of scary day you can have. If a scary day
>>> is smiling, it's planning a scary night.
>>
>> <grin>
>>
>> The scary night is behind me already...
>
> If it's behind you, then presumably it's creeping up on you whilst you're
> not looking.

Yeah, it did. Worked till 1am again...

Scho-yawn-bi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250754 ] Do, 06 April 2006 10:03
Hendrik Schober  
Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:e0vsod$7jh$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
>> Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>>>> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
> [...]
>>>>> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
>>>>> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for
>>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
>>>> leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>>>
>>> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.
>>
>> You know, Aggie, I really like your POV which seems
>> to enable you to repeatadly hand out such remarks as
>> if it was nothing. :o>
>>
>>> A Puzzled Aggie
>>> ;)
>>
>> Schobi,
>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>
> Oh if you only knew what I had to go through to develop this POV... ;)

Ah, I suspected that. It's always the same: As soon
as you think someone's a good person, you find out
that they had to have very baaad times in order to
become so. Why can't be good without being pressed
to? <g>

> I
> live a large portion of my life stuck in a Fellini movie which wouldn't be
> so bad, except the soundtrack is getting to me.

Oh boy. I have to admit that Fellini's works was, um,
"interesting", but I /certainly/ wouldn't want to live
in one of his movies.

> I am glad you're smiling though. :)
> Why was your day scary, unless it's none o' my bidness?

I had worked until 1am the day before, still I was at
work by 8:30 (which includes helping getting three kids
up, fed, dressed, and two of them onto their way to
school). When I wrote this I had the prospect of leaving
at 11am to start lecturing an hour later. I hadn't done
so for 4 years and only just started last week, so I am
still fluttery before-hand. (Having only prepared the
material the night before until 1am doesn't help with
that either...) At 5pm I had to go back to my other job
and work as hard as possible to have a chance to not to
miss that dreading deadline on monday. <sigh>
I worked until 1am again. Been here 8:30 again. Will
have to leave for home at 11am again -- this time to
care for the sleeping toddler while his mummy attends
a lecture. Will work at home while he sleeps. Will go
back to work afterwards. Will work til 6 or 8, then
meet some ex-afp'er whom got to know in some computer
newsgroups and who is in Berlin this week. Will try to
forget that deadded dreadline and have some fun. And
then it's hacking like a maniac again until Monday
night. Then the toddlers mum will need a rest from
being a whole kindergarden all by herself and it's my
turn to prevent him from flooding the appartment a bit
more often again.

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250837 ] Do, 06 April 2006 18:33
Matthew Seaman  
"Aggie" <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> writes:

> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
> > "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Aggie wrote:
> >> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
> >> > beers every night
> >>
> >> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
> >> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for me.
> >
> > Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
> > leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
> >
>
> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.
>
> A Puzzled Aggie
> ;)

Indeed not. I make no such stipulation. Moderate levels of
immorality and occasional depravity are fun and often quite
educational.

And I typed that with such a straight face too...

Cheers,

Matthew

--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250869 ] Do, 06 April 2006 21:50
FiX01  
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 10:03:15 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:


I
> I had worked until 1am the day before, still I was at
> work by 8:30 (which includes helping getting three kids
> up, fed, dressed, and two of them onto their way to
> school). When I wrote this I had the prospect of leaving
> at 11am to start lecturing an hour later. I hadn't done
> so for 4 years and only just started last week, so I am
> still fluttery before-hand. (Having only prepared the
> material the night before until 1am doesn't help with
> that either...) At 5pm I had to go back to my other job
> and work as hard as possible to have a chance to not to
> miss that dreading deadline on monday. <sigh>
> I worked until 1am again. Been here 8:30 again. Will
> have to leave for home at 11am again -- this time to
> care for the sleeping toddler while his mummy attends
> a lecture. Will work at home while he sleeps. Will go
> back to work afterwards. Will work til 6 or 8, then
> meet some ex-afp'er whom got to know in some computer
> newsgroups and who is in Berlin this week. Will try to
> forget that deadded dreadline and have some fun. And
> then it's hacking like a maniac again until Monday
> night. Then the toddlers mum will need a rest from
> being a whole kindergarden all by herself and it's my
> turn to prevent him from flooding the appartment a bit
> more often again.

Ah, a kindred spirit ;-P

worked thoughout the week-end, was to work at 7:30 on monday, finished
at 0:45, got up at 5, took a plane to go meet the client, came back
after midnight, was at work at 8 (a little tired by then), left work
at 21, got to work at 7, decided falling alseep on his desk was not
very productive and thus left work at 20:30 only... oh yeah, I've just
learnt that I'll have to work next week-end also...

All this in the hope of winning another project I will have to manage
during my copious free hours ;-P

FiX
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250872 ] Do, 06 April 2006 22:16
bethbriuk  
Matthew Seaman wrote:
Snip
> > ;)
>
> Indeed not. I make no such stipulation. Moderate levels of
> immorality and occasional depravity are fun and often quite
> educational.
>
> And I typed that with such a straight face too...
>
Wouldn't you do better wiith your fingers?

BriD
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250977 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 12:46
Aggie  
"Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
news:e12i61$ul1$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
> Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>> "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:e0vsod$7jh$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
>>> Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>>>> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>>>>> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>>>>> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of
>>>>>> days
>>>>>> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
>>>>> leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>>>>
>>>> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.
>>>
>>> You know, Aggie, I really like your POV which seems
>>> to enable you to repeatadly hand out such remarks as
>>> if it was nothing. :o>
>>>
>>>> A Puzzled Aggie
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> Schobi,
>>> now approaching a scary day with a smile
>>
>> Oh if you only knew what I had to go through to develop this POV... ;)
>
> Ah, I suspected that. It's always the same: As soon
> as you think someone's a good person, you find out
> that they had to have very baaad times in order to
> become so. Why can't be good without being pressed
> to? <g>

I think it's human nature. Look at George Bush (not too long, you'll get
queasy) he's never had a bad time in his life and look what a rotten person
he turned out to be. I'm hoping he gets a chance to improve his character
really soon. :)

>> I
>> live a large portion of my life stuck in a Fellini movie which wouldn't
>> be
>> so bad, except the soundtrack is getting to me.
>
> Oh boy. I have to admit that Fellini's works was, um,
> "interesting", but I /certainly/ wouldn't want to live
> in one of his movies.

It could be worse, I could be stuck in a Sergio Corbucci movie! :(
>
>> I am glad you're smiling though. :)
>> Why was your day scary, unless it's none o' my bidness?
>
> I had worked until 1am the day before, still I was at
> work by 8:30 (which includes helping getting three kids
> up, fed, dressed, and two of them onto their way to
> school). When I wrote this I had the prospect of leaving
> at 11am to start lecturing an hour later. I hadn't done
> so for 4 years and only just started last week, so I am
> still fluttery before-hand. (Having only prepared the
> material the night before until 1am doesn't help with
> that either...) At 5pm I had to go back to my other job
> and work as hard as possible to have a chance to not to
> miss that dreading deadline on monday. <sigh>
> I worked until 1am again. Been here 8:30 again. Will
> have to leave for home at 11am again -- this time to
> care for the sleeping toddler while his mummy attends
> a lecture. Will work at home while he sleeps. Will go
> back to work afterwards. Will work til 6 or 8, then
> meet some ex-afp'er whom got to know in some computer
> newsgroups and who is in Berlin this week. Will try to
> forget that deadded dreadline and have some fun. And
> then it's hacking like a maniac again until Monday
> night. Then the toddlers mum will need a rest from
> being a whole kindergarden all by herself and it's my
> turn to prevent him from flooding the appartment a bit
> more often again.
>
> Schobi
Okay that made me tired just reading it and I think you used more energy
typing it than I plan on using all day. :| No wonder you guys need six weeks
vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it. At least you have some fun
planned in there.
:)
Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250978 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 12:50
Aggie  
"Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
news:86odzeeka5.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
> "Aggie" <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> writes:
>
>> "Matthew Seaman" <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:86odzhkxk2.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>> > "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> Aggie wrote:
>> >> >I have a friend who drinks two or three *ultra* light
>> >> > beers every night
>> >>
>> >> I have to admit that I have been concerned for the past couple of days
>> >> because I had two beers last week. That's abnormally high amount for
>> >> me.
>> >
>> > Careful now! That sort of thing; well it's just a slippery slope
>> > leading to all sorts of immorality and depravity you know.
>> >
>>
>> You say that like it's a *bad* thing.
>>
>> A Puzzled Aggie
>> ;)
>
> Indeed not. I make no such stipulation. Moderate levels of
> immorality and occasional depravity are fun and often quite
> educational.
>
> And I typed that with such a straight face too...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>

:D
Many more posts like that and I'll be typing with my forehead.
:)
Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #250998 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 15:16
Hendrik Schober  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> [...]
> Ah, a kindred spirit ;-P

Nonononono. Not at all. I don't like this at all and
try to avoid it. If I do it, then purely out of need.
(Our dealine was moved from Apr, 30th to Apr. 10th.
Last Wednesday.)
You, OTOH, seem to almost find that a fun way of life. :o>

I have kids, you know. They were kind of pissed off
last weekend when I worked all the time instead of
playign with them. So was I.

> [...]
> FiX

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251001 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 15:23
Hendrik Schober  
Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
> Okay that made me tired just reading it and I think you used more energy
> typing it than I plan on using all day. :|

What do you do for a living that you get away with
so little?

> No wonder you guys need six weeks
> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.

Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
that as "4 weeks + 3 days".

> At least you have some fun
> planned in there.

Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
It gives me a headache. :^[ )

Schobi

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251034 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 19:00
Matthew Seaman  
"BriD(bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk)" <bethbriuk [at] yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Snip
> > > ;)
> >
> > Indeed not. I make no such stipulation. Moderate levels of
> > immorality and occasional depravity are fun and often quite
> > educational.
> >
> > And I typed that with such a straight face too...
> >
> Wouldn't you do better wiith your fingers?

Aye. It took quite a few goes smacking my forehead into the keyboard
before I produced a coherent response.

Cheers

Matthew

--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251106 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 22:48
FiX01  
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:16:02 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> [...]
>> Ah, a kindred spirit ;-P
>
> Nonononono. Not at all. I don't like this at all and
> try to avoid it. If I do it, then purely out of need.
> (Our dealine was moved from Apr, 30th to Apr. 10th.
> Last Wednesday.)
> You, OTOH, seem to almost find that a fun way of life. :o>

Why did you put an "almsot" there? OTOH, I've been informed by my
manageent that since they did not want me to die of exhaustion right
now (they still need me to function for 6 months), I was _forbidden_
to spend my week-end working ;-P

> I have kids, you know. They were kind of pissed off
> last weekend when I worked all the time instead of
> playign with them. So was I.

Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think on it, this
_may_ be due to the fact that the clever, witty, amusing women I know
tend to look at my lifestyle then start running ;-P

FiX
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251108 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 22:52
FiX01  
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:

>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
[...]
>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.

> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".

<preens> let's see, last year I took... let me count... 2 weeks
skiing, one week for easter, one week during summer, 6 weeks around
Mongolia, one week at christmass...

6 weeks? That's _much_ too short!
<EG>

Okay, so there were 7 weeks of _declared_ overtime, but I've still got
39 vacation days ea year...

>> At least you have some fun planned in there.
>
> Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
> today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
> It gives me a headache. :^[ )

Ah, that's the trouble with beer... you should have drunk wine! <G&D>

FiX
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251116 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 23:12
Hendrik Schober  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.
>
>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".
>
> <preens> let's see, last year I took... let me count... 2 weeks
> skiing, one week for easter, one week during summer, 6 weeks around
> Mongolia, one week at christmass...
>
> 6 weeks? That's _much_ too short!
> <EG>
>
> Okay, so there were 7 weeks of _declared_ overtime, but I've still got
> 39 vacation days ea year...

But you also work more than I do. Officially I work
30h/week. Yes, there's been times when I worked a lot
more. At my last job this seemed to be the way the
company was run, so I ran. Yes, even at this job, I
got to the point where there was no way I could get
rid of overtime by not going to work, because I can
not leave for two months, and I had to have them pay
me for that. But all in all it works out and most of
the time, if I do overtime, I spend it with RL later.

>>> At least you have some fun planned in there.
>>
>> Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
>> today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
>> It gives me a headache. :^[ )
>
> Ah, that's the trouble with beer... you should have drunk wine! <G&D>

The trouble was that we switched to a different
location after a while and there they had different
beer. (Also, the constant lack of sleep over the
last few weeks didn't really help...)
And as to wine -- it's Friday night 11pm here and
until 20mins ago there were still six of us hacking
at work. Before they left we played a round of pool
to which we had a beer. Now we're only two left,
both still hacking (except I have to wait for the
compiler drilling through 1100 files right now). I
wouldn't try to work after a glass of wine, while a
(small) bottle of beer is fine.
My girl-friend called an hr ago and I insisted that
she leaves at least one glass of that Chardonnay
she opened. So I'll have some wine tonight and, boy,
am I looking forward to it. <g>

John Cale's just singing "Dying on the Vine". How's
that? :o>

(Usually I either can't stand music while working
or I don't hear it. But when I'm the only one left
in the room at Friday night 11pm it's sometimes
nice to have some.)

Schobi

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Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251121 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 23:26
Hendrik Schober  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:16:02 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Ah, a kindred spirit ;-P
>>
>> Nonononono. Not at all. I don't like this at all and
>> try to avoid it. If I do it, then purely out of need.
>> (Our dealine was moved from Apr, 30th to Apr. 10th.
>> Last Wednesday.)
>> You, OTOH, seem to almost find that a fun way of life. :o>
>
> Why did you put an "almsot" there? OTOH, I've been informed by my
> manageent that since they did not want me to die of exhaustion right
> now (they still need me to function for 6 months), I was _forbidden_
> to spend my week-end working ;-P

Somewhere (maybe in the radio?) I have heard today that
there was a study that workaholics are a real thread to
companies. No, I remember reading this. I'll have to
find it <goes rumbling through his mess on the desk>
Here! The current c't magazin (www.heise.de/ct) has a
very favourable review of a dissertation by some Ulrike
Emma Meißner who summed up all the costs workaholics
induce. The review closes with: "A very well readable
dissertation that you might want to give to your
project manager -- who'll hopefuly find the time to
read it."
As it is in German, it won't help you, though. :o>

> [...]
> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think on it, this
> _may_ be due to the fact that the clever, witty, amusing women I know
> tend to look at my lifestyle then start running ;-P

You know -- spending time with people (other than
discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
important precondition for having kids. <g>

Schobi

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Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251136 ] Fr, 07 April 2006 23:50
Thomas Zahr  
Hendrik Schober posted:

> FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
....

>> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think
>> on it, this _may_ be due to the fact that the clever,
>> witty, amusing women I know tend to look at my lifestyle
>> then start running ;-P

> You know -- spending time with people (other than
> discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
> important precondition for having kids. <g>

And even just spending the time is not /quite/ enough.

--
Ciao

Thomas =:-)
<I'm in urgent need of a coffee>
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251264 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 12:57
FiX01  
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:50:18 +0200, Thomas Zahr
<ThomasZahr0604 [at] geekmail.de> wrote:

>Hendrik Schober posted:
>
>> FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>...

>>> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think
>>> on it, this _may_ be due to the fact that the clever,
>>> witty, amusing women I know tend to look at my lifestyle
>>> then start running ;-P

>> You know -- spending time with people (other than
>> discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
>> important precondition for having kids. <g>

>And even just spending the time is not /quite/ enough.

Ah, yes, you gotta be *prepared* ;-P

Fi'Cross-threadsRus'X
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251272 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 13:32
Hendrik Schober  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:50:18 +0200, Thomas Zahr
> <ThomasZahr0604 [at] geekmail.de> wrote:
>
>>Hendrik Schober posted:
>>
>>> FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>...
>
>>>> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think
>>>> on it, this _may_ be due to the fact that the clever,
>>>> witty, amusing women I know tend to look at my lifestyle
>>>> then start running ;-P
>
>>> You know -- spending time with people (other than
>>> discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
>>> important precondition for having kids. <g>
>
>>And even just spending the time is not /quite/ enough.
>
> Ah, yes, you gotta be *prepared* ;-P

Nononono! (Again.)
Ich you prepare like that, it doesn't help with
getting kids.

> Fi'Cross-threadsRus'X

Scho-um, did I really need to tell you?-bi

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Eric Jarvis
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251372 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 22:52
FiX01  
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:26:12 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:16:02 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>> wrote:

>>>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Ah, a kindred spirit ;-P

>>> Nonononono. Not at all. I don't like this at all and
>>> try to avoid it. If I do it, then purely out of need.
>>> (Our dealine was moved from Apr, 30th to Apr. 10th.
>>> Last Wednesday.)
>>> You, OTOH, seem to almost find that a fun way of life. :o>

>> Why did you put an "almsot" there? OTOH, I've been informed by my
>> manageent that since they did not want me to die of exhaustion right
>> now (they still need me to function for 6 months), I was _forbidden_
>> to spend my week-end working ;-P

> Somewhere (maybe in the radio?) I have heard today that
> there was a study that workaholics are a real thread to
> companies.

I'm not a workaholic. More exactly, I'm more of a everythingaholic
than a workaholic: I have no middle gear, and go from full power to
"ooops, no energy left" within a microsecond ;-P

> No, I remember reading this. I'll have to
> find it <goes rumbling through his mess on the desk>
> Here! The current c't magazin (www.heise.de/ct) has a
> very favourable review of a dissertation by some Ulrike
> Emma Meißner who summed up all the costs workaholics
> induce. The review closes with: "A very well readable
> dissertation that you might want to give to your
> project manager -- who'll hopefuly find the time to
> read it."
> As it is in German, it won't help you, though. :o>

My probelm is that I am, at heart, a multitasker. I _cannot_ bear
doing only one thing at a time: for example, when going to work,
you'll find me, half asleep, reading the (french) newspaper while
singing in English and writing in my head the first mails of the
morning. And when I'm doing only one thing, my productivity drops
sharply... I mostly work on an intuitive level, so am doing something
and feel that there's _something_ I'm missing. So either I wait until
I've finally understood what made me tick or I start doing something
else. Which more often than not helps my mind realize _what_ made the
alarm beep... so either I'm doing the job of half a person by doing a
sngle job or I'm doing the work of several _in the same timeframe_ and
actually get pretty productive...

>> [...]
>> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think on it, this
>> _may_ be due to the fact that the clever, witty, amusing women I know
>> tend to look at my lifestyle then start running ;-P
>
> You know -- spending time with people (other than
> discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
> important precondition for having kids. <g>

You mean, as in _getting out_ of my lair? <shudders>

FiX ;-P
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251374 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 22:56
FiX01  
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:32:44 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 23:50:18 +0200, Thomas Zahr
>> <ThomasZahr0604 [at] geekmail.de> wrote:
>>
>>>Hendrik Schober posted:
>>>
>>>> FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>>...
>>
>>>>> Ah, I haven't got any kids... now that you make me think
>>>>> on it, this _may_ be due to the fact that the clever,
>>>>> witty, amusing women I know tend to look at my lifestyle
>>>>> then start running ;-P
>>
>>>> You know -- spending time with people (other than
>>>> discussing work problems, that is) is a pretty damn
>>>> important precondition for having kids. <g>
>>
>>>And even just spending the time is not /quite/ enough.
>>
>> Ah, yes, you gotta be *prepared* ;-P
>
> Nononono! (Again.)
> Ich you prepare like that, it doesn't help with
> getting kids.

> Scho-um, did I really need to tell you?-bi

Tell me what? Gosh, did I miss an important aspect of the having
king^H^Hds, perchance?

<waiting for an explanation involving bees and flowers>

FiX
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251378 ] Sa, 08 April 2006 23:07
FiX01  
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:12:26 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>> wrote:

>>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.

>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".

>> <preens> let's see, last year I took... let me count... 2 weeks
>> skiing, one week for easter, one week during summer, 6 weeks around
>> Mongolia, one week at christmass...

>> 6 weeks? That's _much_ too short!
>> <EG>

>> Okay, so there were 7 weeks of _declared_ overtime, but I've still got
>> 39 vacation days ea year...

> But you also work more than I do. Officially I work
> 30h/week.

And I work 37 hours a week. But I'm a _modern_ man, living in a modern
society. Therefore, minutes are of 100 secomds, and hours are of 100
minutes. See, it all works out in the end ;-P

>Yes, there's been times when I worked a lot
> more. At my last job this seemed to be the way the
> company was run, so I ran. Yes, even at this job, I
> got to the point where there was no way I could get
> rid of overtime by not going to work, because I can
> not leave for two months,

Why? I plan on leaving for 3-to-6 months next years: I'm gonna be 40
in 07 and plan on celebrating it with a little trip to places I've
wanted to go to and had not enough time for, such as Cambodia,
Vietnam, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Peru...

The idea being to leave France, stop in Mongolia for awhile, then
spend 3 weeks in each country I'll visit. I've yet to make my company
agree that this will be a Good Idea (I _do_ wish to still have a job
when coming back), but am starting to plan for the trip...

> and I had to have them pay
> me for that. But all in all it works out and most of
> the time, if I do overtime, I spend it with RL later.

What's this RL thingy everybody keeps talking about? I mean, my life
is pretty straightforward: have fun at work, have fun with friends,
have fun during vacations, and dream of fluffy pink clouds... O:-)

>>>> At least you have some fun planned in there.

>>> Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
>>> today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
>>> It gives me a headache. :^[ )

>> Ah, that's the trouble with beer... you should have drunk wine! <G&D>

[...]
> My girl-friend called an hr ago and I insisted that
> she leaves at least one glass of that Chardonnay
> she opened. So I'll have some wine tonight and, boy,
> am I looking forward to it. <g>

Ah, I've just opened a bottle of Chardonnay myself
(chassagne-montrachet '03) because this week-end's the week-end when
the spring wine fair halts in Paris, and I rather guess I haven't
bought enough in November... guess who's gonna finish the week-end
_far_ poorer than he started?

FiX ;-P
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251409 ] So, 09 April 2006 00:00
Hendrik Schober  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> [...]
>>Yes, there's been times when I worked a lot
>> more. At my last job this seemed to be the way the
>> company was run, so I ran. Yes, even at this job, I
>> got to the point where there was no way I could get
>> rid of overtime by not going to work, because I can
>> not leave for two months,
>
> Why? [...]

Because then nobody would write the code that I need
to write for two months. This is a small company. No
one is easily replacable here as everyone has their
field he knows more than others and most fields have
only one person knowing much about it.

>> and I had to have them pay
>> me for that. But all in all it works out and most of
>> the time, if I do overtime, I spend it with RL later.
>
> What's this RL thingy everybody keeps talking about? [...]

"Live is what happens to you while you're busy making
other plans" (JL, from memory)

> [...]
>> My girl-friend called an hr ago and I insisted that
>> she leaves at least one glass of that Chardonnay
>> she opened. So I'll have some wine tonight and, boy,
>> am I looking forward to it. <g>
>
> Ah, I've just opened a bottle of Chardonnay myself
> (chassagne-montrachet '03) [...]

Oh well, ours wasn't all that well and I was much
too tired to appreciate a good one anyway. And I
an tired now again. I need to go hom. <yawns>

Schobi

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Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251460 ] So, 09 April 2006 04:21
Aggie  
"FiX" <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote in message
news:ur8g32t934nqcoinugblp80kfb03lkhm8c [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:12:26 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.
>
>>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>>>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".

Good thing FiX didn't edit all this cuz I don't see the original message
anywhere. I think my news reader is possessed. Four weeks isn't near
enough. You deserve at least six, and you can march right up to your boss
and tell him\her I said so. ;)

Aggie
Re: [I] Notes from a Flat Land [message #251477 ] So, 09 April 2006 10:45
Brian Howlett  
On 9 Apr, Aggie wrote:
>
> "FiX" <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote in message

[snip]

>>>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count that as "4 weeks + 3
>>>>> days".
>
> Good thing FiX didn't edit all this cuz I don't see the original message
> anywhere. I think my news reader is possessed. Four weeks isn't near
> enough. You deserve at least six, and you can march right up to your boss
> and tell him\her I said so. ;)

In my last job, I got 104 days holiday a year. These days were called
Saturday and Sunday... ;-)
>
> Aggie
>
Which college?
--
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-----------------------------------------------------
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Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #251492 ] So, 09 April 2006 13:06
Hendrik Schober  
Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> "FiX" <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote in message
> news:ur8g32t934nqcoinugblp80kfb03lkhm8c [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:12:26 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>>>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.
>>
>>>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>>>>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".
>
> Good thing FiX didn't edit all this cuz I don't see the original message
> anywhere. I think my news reader is possessed. Four weeks isn't near
> enough. You deserve at least six, and you can march right up to your boss
> and tell him\her I said so. ;)

Ah, thanks. I refer him to Aggie Angst then? :o>

Schobi

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Re: [I] Work times and vacation was Notes from a Flat Land [message #251570 ] So, 09 April 2006 19:29
raltbos  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:12:26 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
> > But you also work more than I do. Officially I work
> > 30h/week.
>
> And I work 37 hours a week. But I'm a _modern_ man, living in a modern
> society. Therefore, minutes are of 100 secomds, and hours are of 100
> minutes. See, it all works out in the end ;-P

Are you sure that's modern, and not just stuck in France, just over two
centuries ago?

As for me, 36 hours officially, anywhere between 30 hours in summer and
up to 48 hours just before Chrimble or where there's work to be done on
a new system in reality, and if I tried to get more than 4 weeks'
vacation at a time they'd think I'd be mad. What I _can_ do, but never
do[1], is take a couple of separate one- or two-week vacations.

Richard

[1] Though I should, because I've saved up too many days already and I
don't think they're eligible to be paid off
Re: [I] Work times and vacation was Notes from a Flat Land [message #251644 ] Mo, 10 April 2006 08:34
FiX01  
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:29:18 GMT, raltbos [at] xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 23:12:26 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>> wrote:

>> > But you also work more than I do. Officially I work
>> > 30h/week.

>> And I work 37 hours a week. But I'm a _modern_ man, living in a modern
>> society. Therefore, minutes are of 100 secomds, and hours are of 100
>> minutes. See, it all works out in the end ;-P

>Are you sure that's modern, and not just stuck in France, just over two
>centuries ago?

Naaah, it was invented in my company when I joined ;-P

>As for me, 36 hours officially, anywhere between 30 hours in summer and
>up to 48 hours just before Chrimble or where there's work to be done on
>a new system in reality,

and of course my working hours depend on the overall workload, with
the caveat that the client tends to make us make a lot of studies and
then chooses amongst them. And we've got the "normal" ratio of people
who can design a system vs. people who can implement a design... I, of
course, am in both categories, 't wouldn't be fun otherwise O:-)

>and if I tried to get more than 4 weeks'
>vacation at a time they'd think I'd be mad.

Ah, _that_ is where the difference is: everybody at work _knows_ I'm
completely mad...

>What I _can_ do, but never
>do[1], is take a couple of separate one- or two-week vacations.

>[1] Though I should, because I've saved up too many days already and I
> don't think they're eligible to be paid off

And _that_ is where being me pays off... not only do I take all my
allowed days off, but nobody dares try making me change my plans...
they know that trying to make me work when I've decided I won't is not
only a waste of time, but also the best way to have me leave the
company in a huff ;-)

FiX
Re: [I] Work times and vacation was Notes from a Flat Land [message #251737 ] Di, 11 April 2006 00:32
raltbos  
FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:29:18 GMT, raltbos [at] xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
> wrote:
>
> >FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
> >
> >> And I work 37 hours a week. But I'm a _modern_ man, living in a modern
> >> society. Therefore, minutes are of 100 secomds, and hours are of 100
> >> minutes. See, it all works out in the end ;-P
>
> >Are you sure that's modern, and not just stuck in France, just over two
> >centuries ago?
>
> Naaah, it was invented in my company when I joined ;-P

Be careful, then. When they talk about a new device that will speed up
execution, they may not be talking about your code, but about you. You
don't happen to have a colleague called Marat, do you?

> >and if I tried to get more than 4 weeks'
> >vacation at a time they'd think I'd be mad.
>
> Ah, _that_ is where the difference is: everybody at work _knows_ I'm
> completely mad...

Of course - but in me it usually manifests itself in different ways.

> >What I _can_ do, but never
> >do[1], is take a couple of separate one- or two-week vacations.
>
> >[1] Though I should, because I've saved up too many days already and I
> > don't think they're eligible to be paid off
>
> And _that_ is where being me pays off... not only do I take all my
> allowed days off, but nobody dares try making me change my plans...

Hah yes. My problem is, when I leave for that long, what will I find
when I come back? Nobody else will solve any problems for me...

Richard
Re: [I] Work times and vacation was Notes from a Flat Land [message #251899 ] Di, 11 April 2006 19:50
FiX01  
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:32:23 GMT, raltbos [at] xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
wrote:

>FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:29:18 GMT, raltbos [at] xs4all.nl (Richard Bos)
>> wrote:

>> >FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And I work 37 hours a week. But I'm a _modern_ man, living in a modern
>> >> society. Therefore, minutes are of 100 secomds, and hours are of 100
>> >> minutes. See, it all works out in the end ;-P

>> >Are you sure that's modern, and not just stuck in France, just over two
>> >centuries ago?

>> Naaah, it was invented in my company when I joined ;-P

>Be careful, then. When they talk about a new device that will speed up
>execution, they may not be talking about your code, but about you. You
>don't happen to have a colleague called Marat, do you?

Oh, I probably have *lots* of colleagues who'd like to kiil me in my
bath; that's why I only use the shower ;-P

>> >and if I tried to get more than 4 weeks'
>> >vacation at a time they'd think I'd be mad.

>> Ah, _that_ is where the difference is: everybody at work _knows_ I'm
>> completely mad...

>Of course - but in me it usually manifests itself in different ways.

I don't need to violently maim people, I just have to look at them
sadly and tell them I _believed_ them when they told me they would do
it... mental cruelty is _sooo_ much more satisfying than random
savagery.... it lasts longer, for a start ;-P

>> >What I _can_ do, but never
>> >do[1], is take a couple of separate one- or two-week vacations.

>> >[1] Though I should, because I've saved up too many days already and I
>> > don't think they're eligible to be paid off

>> And _that_ is where being me pays off... not only do I take all my
>> allowed days off, but nobody dares try making me change my plans...

>Hah yes. My problem is, when I leave for that long, what will I find
>when I come back? Nobody else will solve any problems for me...

There is no problem that an absence of solution won't solve... that's
my motto and I live to prove it

FiX

>Richard
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252261 ] Do, 13 April 2006 02:27
Aggie  
"Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
news:e15pfv$qgl$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
> Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>> Okay that made me tired just reading it and I think you used more energy
>> typing it than I plan on using all day. :|
>
> What do you do for a living that you get away with
> so little?
>
>>

I'm an elementary level teacher who, instead of boring kids in class, takes
them on field trips in the woods, to nature museums, wildlife refuges,
wetlands, old cemeteries, water treatment plants, and other environmentally
or historically oriented places on the local map. It's a great job that
lasts from eight in the morning to three in the afternoon, but I often have
to spend evenings studying for the trip the next day so I don't sound like a
total idiot. Plus it can be physically demanding which is why I don't always
post regularly. I'm too tired at the end of the day. My last job was Native
American education, but the grant for that went south as have many of our
specialized programs. (Which is another reason I hates me some George Bush!)
I'm a certified master teacher, but this great job I have doesn't keep up
with the <sarcasm alert> high pay rate and benefit scale of a regular
classroom teacher. So to supplement my pathetic income, I create school
related presentations or websites which is really funny and shows how
non-technological most of the people in the school system are because I'm
not that good. I don't know HTML or any program languages, I just use
canned, hand-holding software. Once in a very great while I get paid for
some lesson research. I sort of thought about trying to move up to
curriculum specialist, but then I wouldn't get to go hiking in the woods
with a bunch of seven year olds anymore. Plus I usually can't spell
curriculum. I have to look it up every time. :)

Aggie the Exhausted
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252262 ] Do, 13 April 2006 02:29
Aggie  
"FiX" <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote in message
news:81kd32l4lgulj0t5ggs2movu9548uvg4gs [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.
>
>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".
>
> <preens> let's see, last year I took... let me count... 2 weeks
> skiing, one week for easter, one week during summer, 6 weeks around
> Mongolia, one week at christmass...
>
> 6 weeks? That's _much_ too short!
> <EG>
>
> Okay, so there were 7 weeks of _declared_ overtime, but I've still got
> 39 vacation days ea year...
>
>>> At least you have some fun planned in there.
>>
>> Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
>> today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
>> It gives me a headache. :^[ )
>
> Ah, that's the trouble with beer... you should have drunk wine! <G&D>
>
> FiX

All I have to do is open a bottle of wine to get a headache. :p I can drink
a buncha beer before head pain happens. ;)

Aggie
Re: Notes from a Flat Land [message #252263 ] Do, 13 April 2006 02:30
Aggie  
"Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de> wrote in message
news:e16ktd$2at$1 [at] murphy.mediascape.de...
> FiX <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:23:42 +0200, "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap [at] gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Aggie <aggieangst [at] ymynospaceway.invalid> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> No wonder you guys need six weeks
>>>> vacation a year. It sounds like you earn it.
>>
>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count
>>> that as "4 weeks + 3 days".
>>
>> <preens> let's see, last year I took... let me count... 2 weeks
>> skiing, one week for easter, one week during summer, 6 weeks around
>> Mongolia, one week at christmass...
>>
>> 6 weeks? That's _much_ too short!
>> <EG>
>>
>> Okay, so there were 7 weeks of _declared_ overtime, but I've still got
>> 39 vacation days ea year...
>
> But you also work more than I do. Officially I work
> 30h/week. Yes, there's been times when I worked a lot
> more. At my last job this seemed to be the way the
> company was run, so I ran. Yes, even at this job, I
> got to the point where there was no way I could get
> rid of overtime by not going to work, because I can
> not leave for two months, and I had to have them pay
> me for that. But all in all it works out and most of
> the time, if I do overtime, I spend it with RL later.
>
>>>> At least you have some fun planned in there.
>>>
>>> Yep, we had fun last night, although I pay for it
>>> today. (One of 'em beers must have been too old.
>>> It gives me a headache. :^[ )
>>
>> Ah, that's the trouble with beer... you should have drunk wine! <G&D>
>
> The trouble was that we switched to a different
> location after a while and there they had different
> beer. (Also, the constant lack of sleep over the
> last few weeks didn't really help...)
> And as to wine -- it's Friday night 11pm here and
> until 20mins ago there were still six of us hacking
> at work. Before they left we played a round of pool
> to which we had a beer. Now we're only two left,
> both still hacking (except I have to wait for the
> compiler drilling through 1100 files right now). I
> wouldn't try to work after a glass of wine, while a
> (small) bottle of beer is fine.
> My girl-friend called an hr ago and I insisted that
> she leaves at least one glass of that Chardonnay
> she opened. So I'll have some wine tonight and, boy,
> am I looking forward to it. <g>
>
> John Cale's just singing "Dying on the Vine". How's
> that? :o>
>
> (Usually I either can't stand music while working
> or I don't hear it. But when I'm the only one left
> in the room at Friday night 11pm it's sometimes
> nice to have some.)
>
> Schobi

And John Cale is always so *cheerful*. ;)
Aggie
Re: [I] Notes from a Flat Land [message #252264 ] Do, 13 April 2006 02:35
Aggie  
"Brian Howlett" <news-spamtrap [at] brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote in message
news:3e35c8144e.Brian [at] brianhowlett.me.uk...
> On 9 Apr, Aggie wrote:
>>
>> "FiX" <FiX01 [at] club.lemonde.fr> wrote in message
>
> [snip]
>
>>>>>> Six weeks? I have 23 holidays per year. I count that as "4 weeks + 3
>>>>>> days".
>>
>> Good thing FiX didn't edit all this cuz I don't see the original message
>> anywhere. I think my news reader is possessed. Four weeks isn't near
>> enough. You deserve at least six, and you can march right up to your
>> boss
>> and tell him\her I said so. ;)
>
> In my last job, I got 104 days holiday a year. These days were called
> Saturday and Sunday... ;-)

I have a problem with people wanting me to volunteer my weekend bits to
their *causes* all the time. :p I don't know what ever gave them the idea I
was civic minded.[1] There are dragons that need slaying and evil sorcerers
that need defeating! We'd be up to our armpits in lichs if I didn't stay
home and do some killin'!
;)

[1] Then they get mad at me when I won't go work for free all week-end. I
am a horrible, selfish bitch.
Aggie
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