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Dragons at SecondLife [message #250127] Sa, 29 April 2006 06:32
jrrhack  
What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
Game. (www.secondlife.com)

I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
list, contact me.
Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
(http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250134 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 07:00
Pegasus  
<jrrhack [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146285154.424414.52960 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
>
> I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
> so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
> list, contact me.
> Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
> unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
> (http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)
>

Interesting. Is it like a forum, or something different. I'd join, but at
the present moment, my computer won't run javascript or just about anything
else with 'java' in it. If it doesn't, then you can pretty much count me in.
If it does, wait a few weeks till I get new technology, then I'll jump in.
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250142 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 11:12
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 28 Apr 2006, jrrhack [at] gmail.com was found to have scratched this message
on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:

> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
> I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
> so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
> list, contact me.
> Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
> unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
> (http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)

Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server seems
to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....

......that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....



Lord Flame Stryke

--
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Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos,
Winner of the *shiny* riddle award from Pegasus

--
"You don't just spontaneously develop a fatal head wound." -- CSI
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250143 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 11:14
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 28 Apr 2006, Pegasus was found to have scratched this message on a
rock in alt.fan.dragons:

>> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
>> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
> Interesting. Is it like a forum, or something different. I'd join, but
> at the present moment, my computer won't run javascript or just about
> anything else with 'java' in it. If it doesn't, then you can pretty
> much count me in. If it does, wait a few weeks till I get new
> technology, then I'll jump in.

It's a standalone program, running Quicktime for video and such, all
incorporated. You need a broadband connection, though, and a decent
processor and video card, as it's graphics intensive.



Lord Flame Stryke

--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos,
Winner of the *shiny* riddle award from Pegasus

--
"It is illegal to drive more than two thousand sheep down Hollywood
Boulevard at one time." -- Herd Thinners
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250147 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 17:55
Quelonzia Stormdancer  
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:12:54 GMT, Lord Flame Stryke
<FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>On 28 Apr 2006, jrrhack [at] gmail.com was found to have scratched this message
>on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
>> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
>> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
>> I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
>> so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
>> list, contact me.
>> Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
>> unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
>> (http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)
>
>Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
>ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server seems
>to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
>
>.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....

Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
does Council of Wyrms. ;)

And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.

*snugz*

Quelonzia Stormdancer
--
' '
( ) "...And as full of wonder in this ancient age,
) ( As ever I was when I was but a child...
( ) Standing upon tiptoe, reaching for stars,
{ o o } And dreaming of wings with which to soar."
\)(/ --me
(oo) Home page: http://www.stormdancer.net
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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250148 ] Sa, 29 April 2006 18:30
Al Phi  
Quelonzia Stormdancer wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:12:54 GMT, Lord Flame Stryke
> <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 28 Apr 2006, jrrhack [at] gmail.com was found to have scratched this message
> >on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
> >
> >> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
> >> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
> >> I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
> >> so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
> >> list, contact me.
> >> Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
> >> unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
> >> (http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)
> >
> >Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
> >ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server seems
> >to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
> >
> >.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....
>
> Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
> does Council of Wyrms. ;)
>
> And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.
>
> *snugz*

I don't really have time for this either. Plus:

>ping www.google.com
>
>Pinging www.l.google.com [64.233.161.104] with 32 bytes
>
>Request timed out.
>Request timed out.
>Reply from 64.233.161.104: bytes=32 time=3361ms TTL=244
>Reply from 64.233.161.104: bytes=32 time=1062ms TTL=244

tells it all.

And I don't look forward to having my personal info stored on yet
another company's database.

And one other question: Is getting a dragon/etc. avatar free, cost
in-game money, or cost real money?

--
Al Phi
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250150 ] So, 30 April 2006 03:56
Darkov the Scholar  
I play Second Life, and have for awhile.
I am a member of the Council of Wyrms.
So sure, put Mark Karlfeldt on the list.
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250158 ] So, 30 April 2006 06:45
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 29 Apr 2006, Quelonzia Stormdancer was found to have scratched this
message on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:

>>Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
>>ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server
>>seems to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
>>.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....
> Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
> does Council of Wyrms. ;)

I went to Council of Wyrms (at least the island that Draco18s pointed me
to, but I didn't see any avatars for sale there. But then, I only spent
a little time there.

However, from what I've seen, I'd need to play it for several years
before I could afford an avatar, and I'm not that interested to keep on
for that long with a gross misrepresentation like a human avatar.....
Maybe I'm being too picky..... <Shrugs>

> And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.

I don't have all that much time, and what I do have seems to be all
taken up with waiting for stuff to load, so I never get anything done,
anyway.

> *snugz*

<SMOOCHIES!! Quel>



Lord Flame Stryke

--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+
$ Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand
of Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature
4x8 from Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady
Viriatha, Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker,
Borrower of the Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small
Statue of a Green Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper,
Employer of a miniature Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic
Ever-Bill from SeaKing, Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o,
Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep, First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the
Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos, Winner of the *shiny* riddle award from
Pegasus

--
"What did you do when the ship sank?" "I grabbed a cake of soap and
washed myself ashore." -- Herd Thinners
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250159 ] So, 30 April 2006 06:46
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 29 Apr 2006, Al Phi was found to have scratched this message on a
rock in alt.fan.dragons:

> And one other question: Is getting a dragon/etc. avatar free, cost
> in-game money, or cost real money?

It costs in-game money, which you can purchase with real money, but I don't
want to throw my money away like that.



Lord Flame Stryke

--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos,
Winner of the *shiny* riddle award from Pegasus

--
"Freedom defined is freedom denied." -- Illuminatus
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250168 ] So, 30 April 2006 09:32
Pegasus  
Lord Flame Stryke <FlameStryke [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97B420F32CD68DragonFyre [at] 64.59.135.159...
> On 28 Apr 2006, Pegasus was found to have scratched this message on a
> rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
> >> Game. (www.secondlife.com)
> > Interesting. Is it like a forum, or something different. I'd join, but
> > at the present moment, my computer won't run javascript or just about
> > anything else with 'java' in it. If it doesn't, then you can pretty
> > much count me in. If it does, wait a few weeks till I get new
> > technology, then I'll jump in.
>
> It's a standalone program, running Quicktime for video and such, all
> incorporated. You need a broadband connection, though, and a decent
> processor and video card, as it's graphics intensive.

*Yowls and punches computer*
Arrgh!!! *pouts* At least I still have my other site.
http://www.thefantasyforum.com
Understandably, I'm under there as 'Pegasus'

>
>
>
> Lord Flame Stryke
>
> --
> DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
> Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
> Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
> Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
> Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8
from
> Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
> Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of
the
> Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
> Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
> Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
> Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
> First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos,
> Winner of the *shiny* riddle award from Pegasus
>
> --
> "It is illegal to drive more than two thousand sheep down Hollywood
> Boulevard at one time." -- Herd Thinners
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250175 ] So, 30 April 2006 18:17
Draco18s  
In article <Xns97B4E77208C91DragonFyre [at] 64.59.135.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com
says...
>On 29 Apr 2006, Quelonzia Stormdancer was found to have scratched this
>message on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
>>>Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
>>>ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server
>>>seems to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
>>>.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....
>> Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
>> does Council of Wyrms. ;)
>
>I went to Council of Wyrms (at least the island that Draco18s pointed me
>to, but I didn't see any avatars for sale there. But then, I only spent
>a little time there.

Which is why I wanted to be able to help you, as the way Daryth set up the
dragons isn't intuitive unless you know what a vendor is and know what you're
looking for (or are watching someone else!)
If you got to the cathedral, there's a bunch of eggs. Clicking on them rezzes
the dragon model (with default coloring) into existence. To buy that avatar,
you pay the egg the correct amount(3500 for an 'adult', ~2500 for a 'Wyoming'
and 1200 (?) for a 'hatchling' (the names are size based, and hatchlings are
tinies, meaning smaller than the smallest human)), and if any are in stock (a
rare thing to find a limit on a product in SL when things can be easily and
relentlessly duplicated) you'll get an egg which contains the avatar parts
(hatchlings are not subject to stock issues).
Last I checked there's a new dragon out...tomorrow? And every other dragon
gets ~10 eggs released on June 31 (Summer Solstice)--5 at noon, 5 at midnight.
If you want one, r-click the egg, select pay, enter the correct amount for the
size you want (adult/wyrmling) and then time your system clock to the SL clock
and watch it approach 12:00 (hovering your mouse over the pay button). When
it does, hit pay immediately. You'll be reacting to something you saw
approaching on a 1 second scale. Everyone else will be reacting to something
on a 1 minute scale.

>However, from what I've seen, I'd need to play it for several years
>before I could afford an avatar, and I'm not that interested to keep on
>for that long with a gross misrepresentation like a human avatar.....
>Maybe I'm being too picky..... <Shrugs>

It is a gross representation. And if you manage to get over your connection
issues (it's most likely not the server, and if it was, there would be
complaints filed from everywhere and it'd be fixed very quickly), I can take
you shopping.

>> And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.

I'm in world all the time (24/7). >..> Go uni T1 connection and unused
processing power. And the economy ruining camping chairs (well, they are SAID
to be ruining the economy, but they CAN'T if the money is merely changing
hands--if that receiver then sells for US$ and the hander-outer is paying US$
to fund the chairs, then where's the problem?).

>I don't have all that much time, and what I do have seems to be all
>taken up with waiting for stuff to load, so I never get anything done,
>anyway.
>
>> *snugz*
>
><SMOOCHIES!! Quel>

*Snugs Quel, hugs LFS, and prepares to be SMOOCHIED*

--
Draco18s
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Proud owner of a big *shiny* riddle award.

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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250176 ] So, 30 April 2006 18:17
Draco18s  
In article <1146285154.424414.52960 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
jrrhack [at] gmail.com says...
>What is it? Secondlife is a virtual 3D community just like anu MMORPG
>Game. (www.secondlife.com)
>
>I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
>so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
>list, contact me.
>Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
>unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
>(http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)

You can add me.
Draco18s (original, no?) Majestic.

--
Draco18s
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S+ I-# V++ Q++ Tc+++[C++]/Tc--- E+

Proud owner of a big *shiny* riddle award.

"Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
| , , .|. | n | .|.
'. |_/| | |'''''''''''| | \
(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
---W"W----'-'----'-'----'-'----------'--------------
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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250177 ] So, 30 April 2006 21:22
darkside  
"Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:

> And one other question: Is getting a dragon/etc. avatar free, cost
> in-game money, or cost real money?

Well, basically, in-game money == real money. There's a direct
exchange rate, and you can at any time buy or sell in-game money. Free
accounts get $L50/week, premium accounts get $L500/week, and you can
buy more if you want. There are ways of making money in-world, as
well, mostly by creating content and selling it.

Avatars, and stuff in the game in general, can be had one of 3 ways:
1. find one for free (usually low quality sample work made as free
promos)
2. buy one.
3. make one yourself. The tools you need are all in-game (the
object-builder and scripting language) or available for free (gimp for
textures, blender/avimator/several others for animations, tons of
software for creating sound files...)

By the way, the game has a native Linux client (lacking some features).
So that's cool :)

So, there you go. Hope it's helpful.

Oh, and there ARE some wonderful dragon avs around, both bipedal and
quad. I've got a bipedal av just because I dislike the animations on
most of the larger ones (their back legs don't move right!). Oh, and
quads are expensive... heh.

--
darkside

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Fr^++"pomegranate" Nw M+++! O H-- $ Fv R++ Ac~ J++ S- U I--# V+
Q+ Tc+++![sw] E++

Homepage: http://silenceisdefeat.org/~darkside
Email: darksidex at charter dot net
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250178 ] So, 30 April 2006 21:25
darkside  
Draco18s <draco18s2 [at] _SPAM_hotmail.com> writes:

> In article <1146285154.424414.52960 [at] j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> jrrhack [at] gmail.com says...
>>I am listing at my blog thing the names of Dragons that play that game,
>>so if any of you want to contact others or wantt your name added in the
>>list, contact me.
>>Some dragons aint from AFD, and Arcturax is currently a fruitbat,
>>unledd you want me to add you in there its ok. The blog is located at
>>(http://www.seconddragons.blogspot.com/)

Darkside Eldrich in game :)

--
darkside

DC2.Da G"two-spirit" L W-- T- Phvlwlt Sks,wl Cwl,pu B- A(rv+++)
Fr^++"pomegranate" Nw M+++! O H-- $ Fv R++ Ac~ J++ S- U I--# V+
Q+ Tc+++![sw] E++

Homepage: http://silenceisdefeat.org/~darkside
Email: darksidex at charter dot net
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250179 ] Mo, 01 Mai 2006 04:31
Al Phi  
darkside wrote:
> "Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
> > And one other question: Is getting a dragon/etc. avatar free, cost
> > in-game money, or cost real money?
>
> Well, basically, in-game money == real money. There's a direct
> exchange rate, and you can at any time buy or sell in-game money. Free
> accounts get $L50/week, premium accounts get $L500/week, and you can
> buy more if you want. There are ways of making money in-world, as
> well, mostly by creating content and selling it.
>
> Avatars, and stuff in the game in general, can be had one of 3 ways:
> 1. find one for free (usually low quality sample work made as free
> promos)
> 2. buy one.
> 3. make one yourself. The tools you need are all in-game (the
> object-builder and scripting language) or available for free (gimp for
> textures, blender/avimator/several others for animations, tons of
> software for creating sound files...)

Sounds a lot like a graphical (3D and sound even!) MUSH, with the
ability to code and all.

> By the way, the game has a native Linux client (lacking some features).
> So that's cool :)
>
> So, there you go. Hope it's helpful.
>
> Oh, and there ARE some wonderful dragon avs around, both bipedal and
> quad. I've got a bipedal av just because I dislike the animations on
> most of the larger ones (their back legs don't move right!). Oh, and
> quads are expensive... heh.

Isn't it possible to just edit the animations? Or do you have to
create it from scratch if you wanted anything custom?

I'd sure love to sign up, but it seems they want too much information.
I'm not willing to let them pinpoint me on a map, least of all be able
to charge me. Unless anyone knows how I can give fictitious
information, and still activate the account.
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250195 ] Mo, 01 Mai 2006 19:23
Draco18s  
In article <1146450719.345331.124600 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
drak0l8er [at] gmail.com says...
>darkside wrote:
>> "Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > And one other question: Is getting a dragon/etc. avatar free, cost
>> > in-game money, or cost real money?
>>
>> Well, basically, in-game money == real money. There's a direct
>> exchange rate, and you can at any time buy or sell in-game money. Free
>> accounts get $L50/week, premium accounts get $L500/week, and you can
>> buy more if you want. There are ways of making money in-world, as
>> well, mostly by creating content and selling it.
>>
>> Avatars, and stuff in the game in general, can be had one of 3 ways:
>> 1. find one for free (usually low quality sample work made as free
>> promos)
>> 2. buy one.
>> 3. make one yourself. The tools you need are all in-game (the
>> object-builder and scripting language) or available for free (gimp for
>> textures, blender/avimator/several others for animations, tons of
>> software for creating sound files...)
>
>Sounds a lot like a graphical (3D and sound even!) MUSH, with the
>ability to code and all.

That's what it is indeed. Although there isn't a [at] dig function.

>> By the way, the game has a native Linux client (lacking some features).
>> So that's cool :)
>>
>> So, there you go. Hope it's helpful.
>>
>> Oh, and there ARE some wonderful dragon avs around, both bipedal and
>> quad. I've got a bipedal av just because I dislike the animations on
>> most of the larger ones (their back legs don't move right!). Oh, and
>> quads are expensive... heh.
>
>Isn't it possible to just edit the animations? Or do you have to
>create it from scratch if you wanted anything custom?

Nope. Animations are created outside of Second Life. I don't even think that
if you have full permissions on an animation (copy, modify, transfer) that you
can save it out.
You can save textures though.

>I'd sure love to sign up, but it seems they want too much information.
>I'm not willing to let them pinpoint me on a map, least of all be able
>to charge me. Unless anyone knows how I can give fictitious
>information, and still activate the account.

Register with a cell phone and drop a fictional address/name in there. Linden
Labs doesn't have the authority (police/fire) to track down your location
(assuming your phone has the GPS technology).

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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250198 ] Mo, 01 Mai 2006 22:07
darkside  
"Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:

> Sounds a lot like a graphical (3D and sound even!) MUSH, with the
> ability to code and all.

That's exactly what I thought the first time I logged in. It's more
feature-filled, though, because there's a lot that can be done with
physics/object interaction/stuff like that.

> Isn't it possible to just edit the animations? Or do you have to
> create it from scratch if you wanted anything custom?

From scratch :(

Animation files are in the BVH format, and you can't save them to disk,
even with full permissions. There are open-source tools for creating
them, though. Avimator and Posemaker are made for SL, and Blender is a
3d-animation suite that can create BVH...

> I'd sure love to sign up, but it seems they want too much information.
> I'm not willing to let them pinpoint me on a map, least of all be able
> to charge me. Unless anyone knows how I can give fictitious
> information, and still activate the account.

They do ask for a lot of information, but they have a good reason. The
grid went down twice this weekend because of griefer attacks. The
ability to ban those users (and potentially take legal recourse against
them) justifies wanting personal info. The credit card info is
primarily for purchasing the premium account/land tiers/extra in-game
money, though. If you have a credit card on file, all of that is
automated in game (with proper warning messages, of course).

But for a free account, yeah, you can use a phone account with falsified
info... just beware that you'd be violating their terms of service, so
if they found out about it they can (and will!) ban you. That would ban
your IP address as well as the false account, too.

Sorry for the needlessly long post...

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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250202 ] Mo, 01 Mai 2006 23:39
Al Phi  
darkside wrote:
> They do ask for a lot of information, but they have a good reason. The
> grid went down twice this weekend because of griefer attacks. The
> ability to ban those users (and potentially take legal recourse against
> them) justifies wanting personal info. The credit card info is
> primarily for purchasing the premium account/land tiers/extra in-game
> money, though. If you have a credit card on file, all of that is
> automated in game (with proper warning messages, of course).
>
> But for a free account, yeah, you can use a phone account with falsified
> info... just beware that you'd be violating their terms of service, so
> if they found out about it they can (and will!) ban you. That would ban
> your IP address as well as the false account, too.
>
> Sorry for the needlessly long post...
I've heard from some friends that it's possible to charge money to a
cell phone. Can anyone debunk this? Or is it true?

At least this is a game that "reflex" doesn't matter in, it seems to be
more of a programmer/artist's game.

--
Al Phi
Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250208 ] Di, 02 Mai 2006 05:09
darkside  
"Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:

> I've heard from some friends that it's possible to charge money to a
> cell phone. Can anyone debunk this? Or is it true?

Hmm, no idea. Sounds plausible, though. Could just put a charge on
your next month's bill.

> At least this is a game that "reflex" doesn't matter in, it seems to be
> more of a programmer/artist's game.

I wouldn't call it a game, because there are combat areas (and games)
*inside* the world. It can be anything you want it to be, which is one
of it's great strengths.

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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250217 ] Di, 02 Mai 2006 19:47
Draco18s  
In article <87zmi1dsvv.fsf [at] no.spam.see.sig>, darkside [at] no.spam.see.sig says...
>"Al Phi" <drak0l8er [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I've heard from some friends that it's possible to charge money to a
>> cell phone. Can anyone debunk this? Or is it true?
>
>Hmm, no idea. Sounds plausible, though. Could just put a charge on
>your next month's bill.

I don't think so. I clicked on the "buy L$" button with my cell phone account
once and it wanted me to enter a billing method.

>> At least this is a game that "reflex" doesn't matter in, it seems to be
>> more of a programmer/artist's game.
>
>I wouldn't call it a game, because there are combat areas (and games)
>*inside* the world. It can be anything you want it to be, which is one
>of it's great strengths.

Yep. If you want to make money racing cars, get a car and race. It can be
done (I watched a race once). You can go clubbing (there are contest events
at every club on a near regular basis). You can try your luck at casino games
(there are things such as poker too! I.E. all the money goes back to /a/
player instead of house edge).
There's nearly everything.

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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250227 ] Mi, 03 Mai 2006 02:35
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 30 Apr 2006, Draco18s was found to have scratched this message on a
rock in alt.fan.dragons:

>>>>Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to
>>>>ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server
>>>>seems to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
>>>>.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....
>>> Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
>>> does Council of Wyrms. ;)
>>I went to Council of Wyrms (at least the island that Draco18s pointed
>>me to, but I didn't see any avatars for sale there. But then, I only
>>spent a little time there.
> Which is why I wanted to be able to help you, as the way Daryth set up
> the dragons isn't intuitive unless you know what a vendor is and know
> what you're looking for (or are watching someone else!)
> If you got to the cathedral, there's a bunch of eggs. Clicking on
> them rezzes the dragon model (with default coloring) into existence.
> To buy that avatar, you pay the egg the correct amount(3500 for an
> 'adult', ~2500 for a 'Wyoming' and 1200 (?) for a 'hatchling' (the
> names are size based, and hatchlings are tinies, meaning smaller than
> the smallest human)), and if any are in stock (a rare thing to find a
> limit on a product in SL when things can be easily and relentlessly
> duplicated) you'll get an egg which contains the avatar parts
> (hatchlings are not subject to stock issues). Last I checked there's a
> new dragon out...tomorrow? And every other dragon gets ~10 eggs
> released on June 31 (Summer Solstice)--5 at noon, 5 at midnight. If
> you want one, r-click the egg, select pay, enter the correct amount
> for the size you want (adult/wyrmling) and then time your system clock
> to the SL clock and watch it approach 12:00 (hovering your mouse over
> the pay button). When it does, hit pay immediately. You'll be
> reacting to something you saw approaching on a 1 second scale.
> Everyone else will be reacting to something on a 1 minute scale.

<Mind shuts dow ant volume of information>

>>However, from what I've seen, I'd need to play it for several years
>>before I could afford an avatar, and I'm not that interested to keep
>>on for that long with a gross misrepresentation like a human
>>avatar..... Maybe I'm being too picky..... <Shrugs>
> It is a gross representation. And if you manage to get over your
> connection issues (it's most likely not the server, and if it was,
> there would be complaints filed from everywhere and it'd be fixed very
> quickly), I can take you shopping.

And so you did.

>>> And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.
> I'm in world all the time (24/7). >..> Go uni T1 connection and
> unused processing power. And the economy ruining camping chairs
> (well, they are SAID to be ruining the economy, but they CAN'T if the
> money is merely changing hands--if that receiver then sells for US$
> and the hander-outer is paying US$ to fund the chairs, then where's
> the problem?).

The problem is, it doesn't work right. I left it online last night and
something screwed up (L$1 for 5 minutes paid me L$3 over 8 hours) and
again today, it didn't screw up today, but I only got paid L$6 (or so)
for 11 hours..... So it's not working right somewhere..... And I was
still logged in when I got home from work, so.....

>>I don't have all that much time, and what I do have seems to be all
>>taken up with waiting for stuff to load, so I never get anything done,
>>anyway.
>>> *snugz*
>><SMOOCHIES!! Quel>
> *Snugs Quel, hugs LFS, and prepares to be SMOOCHIED*

Well, if you insist..... <SMOOCHIES!! teensy tiny Draco18s avatar>
};=8Þ



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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #250245 ] Mi, 03 Mai 2006 06:13
Draco18s  
In article <Xns97B7BD0EA597DragonFyre [at] 64.59.135.159>, FlameStryke [at] gmail.com=
=20
says...
>On 30 Apr 2006, Draco18s was found to have scratched this message on a
>rock in alt.fan.dragons:=20
>
>>>>>Well, I'm on there, as FlameStryke Shackle (closest I could find to=20
>>>>>ShadowDark) but I'm not sure if I'll continue playing, as the server
>>>>>seems to keep on having hiccups and booting me off.....
>>>>>.....that, and the stupid human avatar thingy.....
>>>> Whinge Ninja Weasle Studios has loads of gorgeous dragon avatars, as
>>>> does Council of Wyrms. ;)
>>>I went to Council of Wyrms (at least the island that Draco18s pointed
>>>me to, but I didn't see any avatars for sale there. But then, I only
>>>spent a little time there.

<Clips volume of information>
<impersonates DW> http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/SkyShadow/SkysDontuse.=
jpg

>
><Mind shuts dow ant volume of information>

Simple process. Be faster than anyone else on the 31st of June (either noo=
n,=20
or the following midnight). Best way to do that is to see based on the sys=
tem=20
clock EXACTLY when the minutes on the SL time tick and then pay the vendor=
=20
within one second of the designated time, everyone else will be having a=20
reaction off of something that's slow, you'll have a reaction off of an eve=
nt=20
60 times faster and thus more quickly judge when noon/midnight occurs.

The rest of that was how much you'd be setting up to pay the vendor based o=
n=20
the size of avatar you want.=20



>>>> And no...I have no time for life sinks like SL. But Athelind does.
>> I'm in world all the time (24/7). >..> Go uni T1 connection and
>> unused processing power. And the economy ruining camping chairs
>> (well, they are SAID to be ruining the economy, but they CAN'T if the
>> money is merely changing hands--if that receiver then sells for US$
>> and the hander-outer is paying US$ to fund the chairs, then where's
>> the problem?).=20
>
>The problem is, it doesn't work right. I left it online last night and
>something screwed up (L$1 for 5 minutes paid me L$3 over 8 hours) and
>again today, it didn't screw up today, but I only got paid L$6 (or so)
>for 11 hours..... So it's not working right somewhere..... And I was
>still logged in when I got home from work, so.....=20

Probably a hiccup in the connection (something very tiny can break it, it's=
=20
amazing). Next time you see it, right-click on something, edit, and the=20
general tab (click "more" if necessary) and see if it shows up saying who t=
he=20
owner is. If it's blank, you're not connected.
And yes, LL knows that SL is perfectly incapable of detecting network error=
s.

>>>I don't have all that much time, and what I do have seems to be all=20
>>>taken up with waiting for stuff to load, so I never get anything done,
>>>anyway.
>>>> *snugz*
>>><SMOOCHIES!! Quel>
>> *Snugs Quel, hugs LFS, and prepares to be SMOOCHIED*
>
>Well, if you insist..... <SMOOCHIES!! teensy tiny Draco18s avatar>
>};=3D8=DE=20

Hehe

--=20
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+
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Re: Dragons at SecondLife [message #261593 ] Fr, 05 Mai 2006 16:57
Ninereeds  
i made a char on second life now, i`m online right now, Frurry Fluno :)
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