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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » As a Reminder
As a Reminder [message #248115] Do, 13 April 2006 21:44
Marshall Karp  
in case there is anyone new to the group, several of the James Bond movies
were filmed in Nassau, Bahamas. On my summer vacation, I videotaped three of
the sets: the British Colonial Hilton Nassau used in Never Say Never Again,
the Vulcan Bomber used in Thunderball, and the Tears of Allah wreck used in
Never Say Never Again.

You can watch the video here
http://www.current.tv/studio/media/2567099
Re: As a Reminder [message #248116 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 00:26
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248121 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 01:23
Tom Zielinski  
"Neon Knight" <none [at] none.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97A4B17B6FFC519knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Marshall Karp" <marshallkarp [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:KSx%f.13332$gy2.4319 [at] trnddc08:
>
>> the British Colonial Hilton Nassau
>> used in Never Say Never Again,
>
> Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.


What?


>> and the Tears of Allah wreck used in Never Say Never
>> Again.
>
> Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.


What?


<Plonk>

What a dope.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248123 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 02:27
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248124 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 02:27
Mike Vincitore  
Saw it yesterday and got a kick out of it. Very nice. I've also dived the
Tears of Allah, but not the Vulcan. The so-called "Thunderball Reef" is very
nice too.

But my favorite Bond/Nassau memory was above sea level - dining at Cafe
Martinique.

http://www.hmss.com/firstbond/footsteps.htm
--
Mike Vincitore
"Worry is a dividend paid to disaster before it is due"
(Ian Fleming's 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service', Ch. 1)
"Marshall Karp" <marshallkarp [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KSx%f.13332$gy2.4319 [at] trnddc08...
> in case there is anyone new to the group, several of the James Bond movies
> were filmed in Nassau, Bahamas. On my summer vacation, I videotaped three
> of the sets: the British Colonial Hilton Nassau used in Never Say Never
> Again, the Vulcan Bomber used in Thunderball, and the Tears of Allah wreck
> used in Never Say Never Again.
>
> You can watch the video here
> http://www.current.tv/studio/media/2567099
>
Re: As a Reminder [message #248127 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:07
The Shadow  
Neon Knight wrote:
> "Marshall Karp" <marshallkarp [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:KSx%f.13332$gy2.4319 [at] trnddc08:
>
>> the British Colonial Hilton Nassau
>> used in Never Say Never Again,
>
> Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.



A View To A Kill



>> and the Tears of Allah wreck used in Never Say Never
>> Again.
>
> Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.



A View To A Kill
Re: As a Reminder [message #248128 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:09
The Shadow  
Neon Knight wrote:
> "Tom Zielinski" <rtomz [at] comcast.net> wrote in
> news:rf6dnWyDjKn6QKPZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] comcast.com:
>
>> <Plonk>
>>
>> What a dope.
>
> No, a dope is someone who is a "false plonker" such as yourself. How
> many times have you allegedly plonked me? A real plonker sees no reason
> to announce his plonking to the world.




Mr. Neon Knight,

If you have an issue, then here is a tissue.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248130 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 04:18
Tom Zielinski  
"The Shadow" <miehls [at] bright.net> wrote in message
news:roidnR14FKHKmaLZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d [at] bright.net...
> Neon Knight wrote:
>> "Tom Zielinski" <rtomz [at] comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:rf6dnWyDjKn6QKPZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d [at] comcast.com:
>>
>>> <Plonk>
>>>
>>> What a dope.
>>
>> No, a dope is someone who is a "false plonker" such as yourself. How many
>> times have you allegedly plonked me? A real plonker sees no reason to
>> announce his plonking to the world.


No idea why you still appear on my reader. You don't have to trust me on
this, but I have plonked you before and again today.

Changed your profile/name etc.?
Re: As a Reminder [message #248133 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 06:36
Rich Handley  
Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> said:
>> used in Never Say Never Again,
>Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.

Oh, not that tired rhetoric again. There's no such thing as a true or
non-true Bond flick. Eon has the rights to do Bond films. At one time, so
did McClory. All are official films, just not part of the same series.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248134 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 13:28
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248135 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 13:47
The Shadow  
Neon Knight wrote:
> Rich Handley <rhandley [at] optonline.net> wrote in
> news:3l9u329e4v2i0do1vp5etsdfacgrn04q22 [at] 4ax.com:
>
>> Oh, not that tired rhetoric again.
>
> You guys missed the sarcasm. Every time someone posts about NSNA, they
> are pounced upon by the die-hards that love to point out that NSNA
> "isn't a true Bond flick."



What "die hards" denounce NSNA?

Yes, we did miss the sarcasm since it did not register on the wit scale.


NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!

NEXT!!!
Re: As a Reminder [message #248138 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 15:09
matt  
<<Oh, not that tired rhetoric again.>>

Good point. I like what Graham Rye (?) said about NSNA. It is an
American-made Bond film and let the Brits do Bond.

Bahamian locations feature from:
CASINO ROYALE (2006)
THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (1999)
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN (1983)
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (1977)
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE (1967)
THUNDERBALL (1965)

And the James Bond novels including:
HIGH TIME TO KILL (1999)
LICENSE TO KILL (1989)
THUNDERBALL (1965)

And we are visiting many of these locations at the upcoming 9th annual
Bond Collectors' Weekend. See http:///articles.omnibilia.com for more.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248139 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 15:46
Tom Zielinski  
"Matt Sherman www.omnibilia.com" <matt [at] omnibilia.com> wrote in message
news:1145020170.975492.299060 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> <<Oh, not that tired rhetoric again.>>
>
> Good point. I like what Graham Rye (?) said about NSNA. It is an
> American-made Bond film and let the Brits do Bond.


Respect to Mr. Rye, that statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Albert R. Broccoli was American, Harry Saltzman was Canadian. How are
those facts reconciled with "Let the Brits do Bond"?

Further, to state fact related to the official James Bond film, "Never Say
Never Again":

Sean Connery (Cast, Executive Producer) - Scottish
Kevin McClory (Writer, Executive Producer) - Irish
Douglas Slocombe (Cinematography) - English
Stephen Grimes (Production Design) - English
Roy Alon (Stunts) - English
Vic Armstrong (Stunt Coordinator) - English
Michael Legrand (Score) - French)
Klaus Maria Brandauer (Cast) - Austrian
Max von Sydow (Cast) - Swedish
Barbara Carrera (Cast) - Nicaraguan)
Alec McCowen (Cast) - English
Edward Fox (Cast) - English
Rowan Atkinson (Cast) - English

With all that talent and influence associated with the project, how is it
said that the official James Bond film "Never Say Never Again" was "American
made"? 'Tis true that Schwartzman (New York), Kershner (Philadelphia), and
Semple (New York) were American and that they have key roles in the
production, but to state that the official James Bond film, "Never Say Never
Again" was "American made" is only partially true.

With Broccoli at the core of the EON Bonds, could it not be said James Bond
has had an American influence since 1962?




Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that "Tired Rhetoric" would be a good name for a band..."
Re: As a Reminder [message #248140 ] Fr, 14 April 2006 16:14
The Shadow  
Tom Zielinski wrote:

<snip>


> Michael Legrand (Score) - French)




Ah...that explains it.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248153 ] Sa, 15 April 2006 04:36
Rich Handley  
"Tom Zielinski" <rtomz [at] comcast.net> said:
>With all that talent and influence associated with the project, how is it
>said that the official James Bond film "Never Say Never Again" was "American
>made"? 'Tis true that Schwartzman (New York), Kershner (Philadelphia), and
>Semple (New York) were American and that they have key roles in the
>production, but to state that the official James Bond film, "Never Say Never
>Again" was "American made" is only partially true.
>With Broccoli at the core of the EON Bonds, could it not be said James Bond
>has had an American influence since 1962?

Tom, I bow before you. Brilliantly said.

>delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
>that "Tired Rhetoric" would be a good name for a band..."

LOL!
Re: As a Reminder [message #248155 ] Sa, 15 April 2006 04:36
Rich Handley  
Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> said:
>Rich Handley <rhandley [at] optonline.net> wrote in
>news:3l9u329e4v2i0do1vp5etsdfacgrn04q22 [at] 4ax.com:
>> Oh, not that tired rhetoric again.
>You guys missed the sarcasm. Every time someone posts about NSNA, they
>are pounced upon by the die-hards that love to point out that NSNA
>"isn't a true Bond flick."

Whoops! My apologies -- long day at work. :)
Re: As a Reminder [message #248157 ] Sa, 15 April 2006 14:39
matt  
Rich Handley wrote:
> Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> said:
> >Rich Handley <rhandley [at] optonline.net> wrote in
> >news:3l9u329e4v2i0do1vp5etsdfacgrn04q22 [at] 4ax.com:
> >> Oh, not that tired rhetoric again.
> >You guys missed the sarcasm. Every time someone posts about NSNA, they
> >are pounced upon by the die-hards that love to point out that NSNA
> >"isn't a true Bond flick."
>
> Whoops! My apologies -- long day at work. :)

Ah, it was a pretty good film, though Octopussy was better. And it is a
very good film if you see it with the recent re-score. ;)
Re: As a Reminder [message #248159 ] So, 16 April 2006 00:14
ahk  
At 5:26pm -0500, 04/13/06, Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> wrote:
>"Marshall Karp" <marshallkarp [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

>>. . . the British Colonial Hilton Nassau used in Never Say Never Again,

>Doesn't count, wasn't a true Bond flick.

You're wrong. McClory won the lawsuit and Fleming lost. Fleming admitted
later that he should have settled the issue early on. McClory wrote a
screenplay at Fleming's request. Even though Fleming couldn't sell it,
McClory owned it. Fleming has no right to adapt it for a novel. Even
though McClory owned the copyright, he made a further agreement with
Broccoli and Saltzman given them first shot at producing the movie,
reserving remake rights to himself 20 years later.

Per agreement with Broccoli and Salzman, yeah, NSNA is an official Bond
picture.

How many more times does the S.P.E.C.T.R.E. of this nonsense have to be
raised before it's put to rest?
Re: As a Reminder [message #248160 ] So, 16 April 2006 00:33
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248163 ] So, 16 April 2006 22:37
ahk  
At 5:33pm -0500, 04/15/06, Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote:

>>How many more times does the S.P.E.C.T.R.E. of this nonsense have to
>>be raised before it's put to rest?

>As many times as the sarcasm flies way over your head.

Don't declare a dull troll to be sarcasm. No one else detected any either.
There wasn't a whit of wit about it.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248168 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 01:14
Tom Zielinski  
"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.63.0604161535510.13166 [at] qbbshf.puvarg.pbz...
> At 5:33pm -0500, 04/15/06, Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> wrote:
>>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>>How many more times does the S.P.E.C.T.R.E. of this nonsense have to
>>>be raised before it's put to rest?
>
>>As many times as the sarcasm flies way over your head.
>
> Don't declare a dull troll to be sarcasm. No one else detected any either.
> There wasn't a whit of wit about it.



I believe you are correct, Adam. Well said.



Tom
Re: As a Reminder [message #248169 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 01:40
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248170 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 02:14
Tim Pollard  
"Neon Knight" <none [at] none.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7BDFCA9CAF19knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote in
> news:Pine.LNX.4.63.0604161535510.13166 [at] qbbshf.puvarg.pbz:
>
>> Don't declare a dull troll to be sarcasm. No one else detected any
>> either.
>
> Yes, homosexuals do seem to have that problem.


No, homosexuals can detect wit, they just can't whistle. If you don't even
know *that* maybe you should actually read some Ian Fleming (if they print
Bond books on brightly coloured fabric, of course - your incisive and witty
comebacks indicate you're not much above that age).



--
Regards

Tim Pollard

www.timpollard.com

"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
it was watching Blofeld cross-dress which had obviously turned him gay..."
Re: As a Reminder [message #248172 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 03:10
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: As a Reminder [message #248176 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 10:16
Tim Pollard  
"Neon Knight" <none [at] none.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97A7CD267E66719knightofneon20 [at] 216.196.97.136...
> "Tim Pollard" <timpollard [at] y a h o o .com> wrote in
> news:j5B0g.1469$Z6.474 [at] newsfe3-win.ntli.net:
>
>> No, homosexuals can detect wit, they just can't whistle.
>
> Another false plonker! Gee Tim, how many times have you allegedly
> plonked me?


Obviously not enough, maybe I should stop giving you the benefit of the
doubt.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248177 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 14:52
Rich Handley  
Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> said:
>Yes, homosexuals do seem to have that problem.


<<yawn>>

Get some new material, kid. Every time someone is backed into a corner and
has their wit questioned, they start calling other people homosexual. It's
tired and redundant, and it only goes to prove the claims about your wit.
Re: As a Reminder [message #248178 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 15:21
Tim Pollard  
"Rich Handley" <rhandley [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
news:3j37429uo3hoepec0h02qgh92b32l3qfjf [at] 4ax.com...
> Neon Knight <none [at] none.net> said:
>>Yes, homosexuals do seem to have that problem.
>
>
> <<yawn>>
>
> Get some new material, kid. Every time someone is backed into a corner
> and
> has their wit questioned, they start calling other people homosexual.
> It's
> tired and redundant, and it only goes to prove the claims about your wit.


Maybe it's a compliment - he does seem obsessed with the number of men
'plonking' him.


--
Regards

Tim Pollard

www.timpollard.com

"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that being called 'gay' by an anonymous webmong was almost ironic..."
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