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OT: Calling all Americas! [message #245881]

So, 09 April 2006 12:51

Lady Grey

Helped needed in understanding your language! :)

I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
bit wasn't I?' or something.

anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S

--
Jane Grey

Re: OT: Calling all Americas! [message #245888 ]

So, 09 April 2006 14:50

Jane Grey wrote:

> Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
>
> I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> bit wasn't I?' or something.
>
> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>
> --
> Jane Grey
>

"Macking" or "smacking"? Probably "smacking" since I've never heard the
word "macking". Smacking means either a suggestion or hitting, so it
really doesn't fit in the context you described. Maybe he meant he was
'hitting on her', slang meaning to approach sexually. Or maybe the actor
was just an idiot...

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Re: OT: Calling all Americas! [message #245893 ]

So, 09 April 2006 17:14

Lady Grey

DM wrote:
> Jane Grey wrote:
>
> > Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
> >
> > I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> > is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> > remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> > interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> > macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> > bit wasn't I?' or something.
> >
> > anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
> >
> > --
> > Jane Grey
> >
>
> "Macking" or "smacking"? Probably "smacking" since I've never heard the
> word "macking".

he said macking, definately. hmm, maybe he was australian or
something...

> Smacking means either a suggestion or hitting, so it
> really doesn't fit in the context you described.

over here smacking means hitting, never heard it mean a suggestion
though

> Maybe he meant he was
> 'hitting on her', slang meaning to approach sexually.

yeah we have 'hitting on' over on this side of the pond too. if macking
means that it would certainly fit the context because they were talking
about how they were treating each other on set like their characters
treated each other in the film.

> Or maybe the actor
> was just an idiot...

lol, yeah he could be trying to start up a new word =E1 la the reno clio
ads; "bigsmall, put it in your dictionary"

--
Jane Grey

Re: OT: Calling all Aussies! [message #245894 ]

So, 09 April 2006 17:16

Lady Grey

Help needed in understanding your language! :)

I saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
bit wasn't I?' or something.

anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S

--
Jane Grey

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245895 ]

So, 09 April 2006 17:29

maxx2112

"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:

> Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
>
> I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> bit wasn't I?' or something.
>
> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S

Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.

Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting, "snogging,"
petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
flirting.

To call someone a "Mack Daddy" is to say he's a player, a ladies man, etc.
He's seriously pimpin' (which doesn't mean purveyor of prostitutes in this
sense).

Slang -- the use of language so that it becomes an impediment to understanding.
A good place to go to get a handle on slang is Urban Dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macking

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mack+daddy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimpin

- Max -
=======
My vision would turn your world upside down,
tear asunder your allusions and send the
sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing
down around you. - Huey Freeman

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245896 ]

So, 09 April 2006 17:42

Lady Grey

Max C. Webster III wrote:
> "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
<snip>
> > anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>
>
> Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>
> Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting, "snogging,"
> petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
> flirting.

thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?

> To call someone a "Mack Daddy" is to say he's a player, a ladies man, etc.
> He's seriously pimpin' (which doesn't mean purveyor of prostitutes in this
> sense).

ah, that song 'Return of the Mack' by Mark Morrison suddenly makes some
sense now!

> Slang -- the use of language so that it becomes an impediment to understanding.

lol, yeah

--
Jane Grey

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245899 ]

So, 09 April 2006 18:24

wadkin2000

Max C. Webster III wrote:
> "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>
> > Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
> >
> > I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> > is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> > remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> > interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> > macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> > bit wasn't I?' or something.
> >
> > anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>
>
> Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>
> Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting, "snogging,"
> petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
> flirting.
>
> To call someone a "Mack Daddy" is to say he's a player, a ladies man, etc.
> He's seriously pimpin' (which doesn't mean purveyor of prostitutes in this
> sense).
>
> Slang -- the use of language so that it becomes an impediment to understanding.
> A good place to go to get a handle on slang is Urban Dictionary.
>
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macking
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mack+daddy
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimpin
>
>
>
> - Max -
> =======
> My vision would turn your world upside down,
> tear asunder your allusions and send the
> sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing
> down around you. - Huey Freeman

Wow...a bona-fide pioneer from the "hallowed halls" of amr! I enjoy
your posts!

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245900 ]

So, 09 April 2006 18:33

maxx2112

"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done said:

> Max C. Webster III wrote:
>
>> "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>>
>>> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>
>> Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>
>> Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting, "snogging,"
>> petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
>> flirting.
>
> thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
> some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
> USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?

I'm in the southeastern US, Birmingham, Alabama, to be exact.

The only place I've every heard "mack" used was in Daria cartoons and in the
Sinfest comic strip. I'm much too old (41) to hanging out with people who
actually use "mack" in conversation. My wife, however, chaperones a youth
group, so she hears that stuff all the time.

While I'm not one to use "mack", I do, however, remember in college "smooth"
had the same meaning and connotation.

"Whatcha doin' tonight?"

(Do you have any plans this evening, and if so, what are they?)

"We're goin' down to the station and smooth on the senoritas."

(I and group of other young men from this campus are going to a local night
club to attempt flirtatious conversation with the local young women. We hope
to get to receive contact information for future dates. If chance be on our
side, some of us may be lucky enough to engage in the mating ritual this very
night.)

"Go, dog, go! Get you some of that, Chi Chi!"

(Have fun, fellow student. I wish you luck in your endeavors with the opposite
sex.)

Ya know, that sounds really stupid in retrospect. I imagine that's true about
most of my youth.

- Max -
=======
My vision would turn your world upside down,
tear asunder your allusions and send the
sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing
down around you. - Huey Freeman

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245902 ]

So, 09 April 2006 18:46

maxx2112

<wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com> done said:

> Max C. Webster III wrote:
>
>> Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>
> Wow...a bona-fide pioneer from the "hallowed halls" of amr!

Well, I've got a great computer.

> I enjoy your posts!

Masochist!

There are a few other AMRicans who post once in a while in AFHP. Simon Dean is
the only one I can think off the top of my head. We tend to get too much grief
from the Dan Iwerkses of the world if we admit like HP too much.

I mostly lurk here, reading the take of others on HP. I find it helps to
understand and enjoy the story. I don't usually participate in the on-topic
threads because I don't have much to add.

- Max -
=======
My vision would turn your world upside down,
tear asunder your allusions and send the
sanctuary of your own ignorance crashing
down around you. - Huey Freeman

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245903 ]

So, 09 April 2006 19:11

Tim Peters

[Jane Grey]
> Helped needed in understanding your language! :)

That's OK -- so do Americans :-)

> I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> bit wasn't I?' or something.
>
> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S

Here's a nice account tracing it back to the 15th century:

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000803

Of the many variants there, from context it sounds like this one (the most
recent) was intended:

Since the mid 1990s, mack has been primarily college slang, used
by teens and twenty-somethings to talk about flirting or kissing.
It is often found in the construction mack on, probably by analogy
with the phrase "hit on." Mack can still be used as a noun to
refer to someone who is good at "hooking up" with members of the
opposite sex, probably through truncation of mack daddy, which,
these days, refers more often to smooth-talking teenage boys than
it does to pimps.

See the full article for how it evolved to this state of perfection ;-)

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245913 ]

So, 09 April 2006 20:10

Froggy

"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1144579888.485644.212260 [at] t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
>
> I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> bit wasn't I?' or something.
>
> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>
> --
> Jane Grey
>

Ok, since your question wasn't really answered, here goes. It's mostly
originated from the inner city USA and me growing up in the Inner City, know
the meaning of this term.. Macking means the guy was hitting on her,
flirting, also could be used as a term of making out. It depends on the
manner in which it is used. Macking for all intents and purposes means
flirting, I hope this helps..... ;)
--
~Froggy~
(*)(*)
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Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245915 ]

So, 09 April 2006 20:28

Ken

Jane Grey wrote:
> Max C. Webster III wrote:
>> "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
> <snip>
>>> anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>
>>
>> Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>
>> Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
>> "snogging," petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above,
>> I'd guess he meant flirting.
>
> thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
> some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
> USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>

never heard of it here in Minnesota [a state in the US]

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245924 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 00:24

Jane Grey wrote:
> Max C. Webster III wrote:
>
>>"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>
>>
>>Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>
>>Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting, "snogging,"
>>petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
>>flirting.
>
>
> thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
> some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
> USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?

NC, which is east coast. I'm more from the suburbs, rather than city, so
I'm not the hippest person when it comes to slang.

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Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245927 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 00:57

Froggy

"DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mQf_f.57370$915.16441 [at] southeast.rr.com...
> Jane Grey wrote:
>> Max C. Webster III wrote:
>>
>>>"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>>
>>>
>>>Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>>
>>>Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
>>>"snogging,"
>>>petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
>>>flirting.
>>
>>
>> thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
>> some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
>> USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>
> NC, which is east coast. I'm more from the suburbs, rather than city, so
> I'm not the hippest person when it comes to slang.
>

DM, I'm in NC as well! Are you familiar with Fayetteville? I'm near there.
--
~Froggy~
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Re: Calling all Americas! [message #245943 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 02:06

Froggy wrote:

> "DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mQf_f.57370$915.16441 [at] southeast.rr.com...
>
>>Jane Grey wrote:
>>
>>>Max C. Webster III wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>>>
>>>>Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
>>>>"snogging,"
>>>>petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
>>>>flirting.
>>>
>>>
>>>thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
>>>some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
>>>USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>>
>>NC, which is east coast. I'm more from the suburbs, rather than city, so
>>I'm not the hippest person when it comes to slang.
>>
>
>
>
> DM, I'm in NC as well! Are you familiar with Fayetteville? I'm near there.

Yes, check your email. :)

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Re: Calling all Americas! [message #246788 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 04:05

Froggy wrote:
> "DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mQf_f.57370$915.16441 [at] southeast.rr.com...
>
>>Jane Grey wrote:
>>
>>>Max C. Webster III wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>>>
>>>>Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
>>>>"snogging,"
>>>>petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
>>>>flirting.
>>>
>>>
>>>thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
>>>some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
>>>USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>>
>>NC, which is east coast. I'm more from the suburbs, rather than city, so
>>I'm not the hippest person when it comes to slang.
>>
>
>
>
> DM, I'm in NC as well! Are you familiar with Fayetteville? I'm near there.

Whoops! Email just came back as undeliverable. How about you email me.
I'd rather not mention specific areas in the newsgroup. :)

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Re: Calling all Americas! [message #246798 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 05:13

Froggy

"DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
news:y3j_f.79878$%84.65807 [at] tornado.southeast.rr.com...
> Froggy wrote:
>> "DM" <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mQf_f.57370$915.16441 [at] southeast.rr.com...
>>
>>>Jane Grey wrote:
>>>
>>>>Max C. Webster III wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
>>>>>"snogging,"
>>>>>petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he
>>>>>meant
>>>>>flirting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
>>>>some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
>>>>USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>>>
>>>NC, which is east coast. I'm more from the suburbs, rather than city, so
>>>I'm not the hippest person when it comes to slang.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> DM, I'm in NC as well! Are you familiar with Fayetteville? I'm near
>> there.
>
> Whoops! Email just came back as undeliverable. How about you email me. I'd
> rather not mention specific areas in the newsgroup. :)
>

Sent! Did you get it?
--
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Re: OT: Calling all Americas! [message #246805 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 06:56

Toon

On 9 Apr 2006 03:51:28 -0700, "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

>Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
>
>I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
>is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
>remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
>interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
>macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
>bit wasn't I?' or something.
>
>anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S

Snogging.

Re: Calling all Americas! [message #246834 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 16:31

Matt Clara

"Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1144597338.017043.168440 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> Max C. Webster III wrote:
> > "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> done axed:
> <snip>
> > > anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
> >
> >
> > Mackin' is being a pimp daddy . . . um, or something like that.
> >
> > Depending on how it's used, "macking" can mean either flirting,
"snogging,"
> > petting or actual intercourse. From the usage above, I'd guess he meant
> > flirting.
>
> thanks for that and the links. So is it a word that is only used in
> some parts of America since DM had never heard of it either? where in
> USA do you live, Max? how about you DM?
>
>

It's part of the Hip-Hop culture.

--
Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

Re: OT: Calling all Americas! [message #246837 ]

Mo, 10 April 2006 17:34

tbarry22

Toon wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2006 03:51:28 -0700, "Jane Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Helped needed in understanding your language! :)
> >
> >I just saw this interview with some of the actors in that movie which
> >is the modern adaptation of Shakespeare's 12th Night (sorry can't
> >remember what it is called), anyways the main actor, during the
> >interview, said to one of the main actresses, something like 'I was
> >macking on you a bit wasn't I?' or maybe he said 'I was macking you a
> >bit wasn't I?' or something.
> >
> >anyways it left me wondering, what the hell is a 'macking'? :S
>
> Snogging.

Yes. It's slang. As stated earlier in the thread by someone, it's
part of the hip-hop culture. It's mainly used by black men/boys, but
there some white guys (like eminem) who have been known to use the term
as well. It mostly refers to flirting and hitting on someone.

Re: OT: Calling all Americas! [message #247553 ]

Di, 11 April 2006 19:16

Neener

Jane Grey wrote:
>
> he said macking, definately. hmm, maybe he was australian or
> something...
>

> --
> Jane Grey

ROFL - yes, when faced with a strange or obscure phrase, my instinct is
to blame the Australians as well :-)

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