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The Film [message #243497]

So, 02 April 2006 15:13

Cultureboy

I'm new to this discussion board, so have no idea whether what I am
about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!

So much did I love the original radio series, books and television
adaptations, that I deliberately didn't watch it, knowing that
Hollywood could never do justice to 'Hitchiker'. But last night a
friend came round with some beers and the DVD, so I thought 'what the
hell - let's have a look.... can't be too bad.'

BUT IT WAS - OHMIGOD IT WAS WORSE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED!!!!

Had it been an entirely original vehicle - ie with no history/baggage
to weigh it down - it might have made a half decent, quirky littlke
curio, but just how did this steaming pile of kaka ever get greenlit?

And yes, I know DNA had creative input before he left us, but that
doesn't excuse anything AND he wasn't responsible for the woeful
miscasting. The four lead 'actors' are all completely wrong for their
roles - Sam Rockwell and Mos Def, in particular, are so 'anaemic' and
uncharismatic for characters that are larger than life; Martin Freeman
just plays the same part, ie himself probably, in everything I've ever
seen him in; and the girl, (can't remember her name) was forgettable
even while on screen.

Why the ridiculous new plotline? The original is one of the most
intriguing in literature! Talk about gilding the lilly.

I could go on for thousands of words about just how bad this 'film'
was, but won't.

The television series, albeit done on a shoestring, was so-ooo
right.... the big screen version is just an insult to its memory, to
Douglas' memory and to the efforts of every intelligent person who
worked to bring this magical saga to us via radio, novels and
television.

Why on earth couldn't the original radio/television cast and prodcution
crew be reassembled for the film? Okay, they're getting on a bit, but
are all still younger than Harrison Ford - and youngsters go to his
films. Simon Jones IS Arthur Dent... nobody else can fill his slippers
and dressing gown - particularly a whey-faced, unfunny little prat like
Freeman.

I SO wish I had said to my friend, 'I'll share the beer with you, but
leave that DVD on the doorstep.' Something of my love for 'HG2G' has
been forever tarnished.

Cultureboy

Re: The Film [message #243498 ]

So, 02 April 2006 22:04

Steve Marshall

"Cultureboy" <drockfort [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote

> about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
> heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!
>

Check the archives for much agreement/ disagreement.

It's interesting to see Alan Moore's attitude towards films that have been
made of his work. He's had his name removed and disassociates himself from
them ! Speak volumes !!! (but I'll probably still go and see V)

Steve M

Re: The Film [message #243499 ]

So, 02 April 2006 22:34

Tian

Steve Marshall wrote:
> "Cultureboy" <drockfort [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote
>
>
>>about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
>>heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!
>>
>
>
> Check the archives for much agreement/ disagreement.
>
> It's interesting to see Alan Moore's attitude towards films that have been
> made of his work. He's had his name removed and disassociates himself from
> them ! Speak volumes !!! (but I'll probably still go and see V)
>
>
I'm thinking of seening V just because it's from the team that
brought us The Matrix. I liked that one. Before I do that though,
I've got to see Thank You For Smoking. That one sounds really funny.

--
Tian
http://tianharter.org
Saturday April 1st: I got a copy of "PRONOIA Is the Antidote to
Paranoia" By Rob Breszney at East/West Books after a day of
campaigning. Looks like a fun book. The author talk was great!
Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854

Re: The Film [message #243500 ]

Mo, 03 April 2006 00:33

John Coxon

On 02/04/2006 21:34, Tian wrote:

> Steve Marshall wrote:
>
>> "Cultureboy" <drockfort [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote
>>
>>> about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
>>> heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!
>>
>> Check the archives for much agreement/ disagreement.
>>
>> It's interesting to see Alan Moore's attitude towards films that have
>> been
>> made of his work. He's had his name removed and disassociates himself
>> from
>> them ! Speak volumes !!! (but I'll probably still go and see V)
>
> I'm thinking of seening V just because it's from the team that
> brought us The Matrix. I liked that one. Before I do that though,
> I've got to see Thank You For Smoking. That one sounds really funny.

V For Vendetta is the single best film I've seen since Serenity in
October. Really, really good. I loved every single minute.

This is coming from somebody who has read the graphic novel, to boot.

--
John Coxon
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Re: The Film [message #245270 ]

Mi, 05 April 2006 20:29

Felix Atagong

"Cultureboy" droned:
> I'm new to this discussion board, so have no idea whether what I am
> about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
> heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!

<snipperdesnip>

Well, one could say that the movie was made by a Mickey Mouse company...
Felix

Re: The Film [message #245271 ]

Fr, 07 April 2006 00:48

Steve Marshall

"John Coxon" <john.coxon [at] gmail.com> wrote

> V For Vendetta is the single best film I've seen since Serenity in
> October. Really, really good. I loved every single minute.
>
> This is coming from somebody who has read the graphic novel, to boot.

Cheers - that's interesting. I read it in the original Warrior comics when
it was in black & white, though never knew what happened until I came across
the graphic novel.
Serialised in monthly issues it was very mysterious and powerful. I thought
the story got a little weak at the end, but I'm really looking forward to
seeing the film and seeing if they got the creepy-with-a-sense-of-humour
feel of the main character.

Alan Moore could write back then ! None of this Tom Strong rubbish !

Steve M

Re: The Film [message #245274 ]

So, 09 April 2006 08:26

shapeshifter.dragon

I enjoy being needlessly contrary, so I'd argue this person, even if I
hadn't enjoyed the movie, which I did. Theme song was positivly
addicting. So long and thanks for all the fish/ So sad that it should
come this...etc. I'm so profoundly easy tpo please; everything makes me
happy. I even like, and am against the shooting on sight of, Sylvester
McCoy (I can say that here without starting a flamewar...I think).

Cultureboy wrote:
> I'm new to this discussion board, so have no idea whether what I am
> about to say will be in accord with majority opinion, be greeted as a
> heresy or cause a schism, but the thing is this..... THE FILM STINKS!

You smelled it? Was it a chemical stink or more of an organic aroma?

<snip-aroni>

> BUT IT WAS - OHMIGOD IT WAS WORSE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED!!!!
>

Is this an admission to having a poor imagination?

> Had it been an entirely original vehicle - ie with no history/baggage
> to weigh it down - it might have made a half decent, quirky littlke
> curio, but just how did this steaming pile of kaka ever get greenlit?
>

I prefer saying "steaming pile of kafka" when the situation's
appropriate. At any rate, I find a man who's brain is powered by
lemons quite creative. I could watch an entire movie just about that,
and the fact it was Zaphod, who I consider deserving of great praise
for being a generally, all-round, dangerously froody and hoopy guy, is
icing on the cake. And as for history/baggage....I assume your meaning
to be roughly synonymous with information considered cannon by fans...a
quick glance at anywhere where the same information is repeated twice
at intervals of any length, will show that DNA himself did not care one
wit about cannon. Did Zaphod have a bird cage on his shoulder hiding
his second head when he met Trillian? First time you hear about it, no.
Next time, yes. Did Arthur own a cat or a dog? Yes. (When he leaves,
he'd wanted to brush the dog that day. When he gets back, there's a
dead cat lying on the junkmail in front of his door. The possibility of
the kitten being names "the dog" or the the dog being named "a dead
kitten" has, however, been raised. I personally don't buy it.) Was
Trillian: a)Vaguely Arabian looking, or, b)A blond go-go-girl with
frizzy hair? Book says a. That TV series you liked so much says b.
Cannon doesn't matter. Baggage doesn't matter. Just have fun.

> And yes, I know DNA had creative input before he left us, but that
> doesn't excuse anything AND he wasn't responsible for the woeful
> miscasting.

Does anyone know if he was responsible for that song? If so, that's
just another thing besides all the fish I have to thank him for.

The four lead 'actors' are all completely wrong for their
> roles - Sam Rockwell and Mos Def, in particular, are so 'anaemic' and
> uncharismatic for characters that are larger than life;

I thought Sam Rockwell was great. The clip of Zaphod doing his address
from Eccentricia Gallumbits' bedroom was just how I pictured it.
Zaphod's always been far and away by favourite character, so I had high
expectations for him, and I thought Sam Rockwell was a great
Zaphod.Though I suppose you get a little more out of seeing him up
there if you're female. Rowr.

I'm neither here nor there about Mos Def, he wasn't bad, but not
spectacular. Maybe cause....Politically incorrect as it is, uh...I'd,
um, never really pictured Ford as being black...don't kill me for
saying that, please, I know people who would.

<tiny-snip>

and the girl, (can't remember her name) was forgettable
> even while on screen.
>
Trillian? You forgot the poor girl? She's always so overlooked.

> Why the ridiculous new plotline? The original is one of the most
> intriguing in literature! Talk about gilding the lilly.
>
What's wrong with something fresh? Like I said before, cannon is no
object with DNA.

> I could go on for thousands of words about just how bad this 'film'
> was, but won't.
>
Thank you.

> The television series, albeit done on a shoestring, was so-ooo
> right.... the big screen version is just an insult to its memory, to
> Douglas' memory

<bitty snip>

You know...at the end of the movie <spoilers. Do I have to still do
this?>When the Heart Of Gold turned into stuff, then into DNA's face,
then the screen faded to the "dedicated to Douglas Adams" bit, I had to
hold the towel I brought to the theatre against my face for a
moment...because when I saw that, I cried. *sigh* I need an e-hug.
Anyone?

<yet another snip>

>Simon Jones IS Arthur Dent...

Mhm, I know that feeling....I get it every time I see The Doctor
regenerate.

>nobody else can fill his slippers
> and dressing gown

Technically, anyone can who wears about a medium robe and shoe size of
around 8 1/2 men's.

- particularly a whey-faced, unfunny little prat like
> Freeman.
>
I found him plenty funny, and I simply don;t see what his complextion
has to do with how well he plays the role.

> I SO wish I had said to my friend, 'I'll share the beer with you,

Failing that, send it to me.

>but leave that DVD on the doorstep.' Something of my love for 'HG2G' has
> been forever tarnished.
>
> Cultureboy

Well, that's a bit much, really....

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