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Science Fiction » alt.fan.starwars » on using the Force to see the future
on using the Force to see the future [message #243356] Do, 30 März 2006 19:39
biowarble  
In TESB, Luke AND Yoda see pain in the future for Luke's friends in the
Cloud City. But Anakin's visions/dreams of Padme' suffering and dying
in childbirth were only seen by him. What control who sees whose
future?
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #243363 ] Do, 30 März 2006 23:14
Anybody  
In article <1143740374.063492.81660 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"biowarble [at] hotmail.com" <biowarble [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

> In TESB, Luke AND Yoda see pain in the future for Luke's friends in the
> Cloud City. But Anakin's visions/dreams of Padme' suffering and dying
> in childbirth were only seen by him. What control who sees whose
> future?

If you re-watch ESB you'll notice that Luke forsees his friends on
Cloud City. Yoda doesn't necessarily forsee it at all, but simply
comments that through the Force you can see future and past events.

Very simply: Luke is thinking of his friends and so sees their future.
Anakin is thinking of Padmé and so sees her future.
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #243407 ] So, 02 April 2006 00:55
Darth Mura  
Anybody wrote:
> In article <1143740374.063492.81660 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> "biowarble [at] hotmail.com" <biowarble [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In TESB, Luke AND Yoda see pain in the future for Luke's friends in the
> > Cloud City. But Anakin's visions/dreams of Padme' suffering and dying
> > in childbirth were only seen by him. What control who sees whose
> > future?
>
> If you re-watch ESB you'll notice that Luke forsees his friends on
> Cloud City. Yoda doesn't necessarily forsee it at all, but simply
> comments that through the Force you can see future and past events.
>
> Very simply: Luke is thinking of his friends and so sees their future.
> Anakin is thinking of Padm=E9 and so sees her future.


Ah, but Sidious knows of Anakin's dreams. Did he perhaps plant them?
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #243413 ] So, 02 April 2006 04:06
SpammersDie  
>"Darth Mura" <shridurga [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1143932101.901342.302740 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>Ah, but Sidious knows of Anakin's dreams. Did he perhaps plant them?

Nah, Yoda just talks in his sleep.
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #243423 ] So, 02 April 2006 07:09
Anybody  
> Ah, but Sidious knows of Anakin's dreams. Did he perhaps plant them?

Anakin often confides in Palpatine, so he didn't HAVE to have "planted"
the dreams.
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #243424 ] So, 02 April 2006 07:36
Darth Mura  
Anybody wrote:
> > Ah, but Sidious knows of Anakin's dreams. Did he perhaps plant them?
>
> Anakin often confides in Palpatine, so he didn't HAVE to have "planted"
> the dreams.

Ha. Your killfiles are useless.

Why would Anakin be confiding his marriage to anyone?
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #245158 ] Di, 04 April 2006 16:54
biowarble  
I disagree. In TESB, Luke sees the future.... *AND* Yoda sees the
future of Han and Leia on the Cloud City. Luke asks Yoda whether they
will die, and Yoda says "difficult to tell; always in motion is
future". And Obi-Wan says even Yoda cannot see their fate even with all
his Force ability.
Re: on using the Force to see the future [message #249362 ] Mo, 24 April 2006 06:43
Simmie Simmerson  
And then he asks, "Will they die?" And Yoda closes his eyes and says,
"Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."

> If you re-watch ESB you'll notice that Luke forsees his friends on
> Cloud City. Yoda doesn't necessarily forsee it at all, but simply
> comments that through the Force you can see future and past events.
>
> Very simply: Luke is thinking of his friends and so sees their future.
> Anakin is thinking of Padmé and so sees her future.
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