| "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) Latvian tr [message #242439] |
Mo, 27 März 2006 16:14 |
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Hello,
maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pavēlnieks")
by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father who
liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
(we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't want
to give it unless it is good.
I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in English
(or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
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Linards Ticmanis
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) Latvia [message #242440 ] |
Mo, 27 März 2006 17:57 |
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I haven't read it, but I've heard it's very good -- and Kolmane is a
very highly respected translator.
Regards,
/P
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242449 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 00:00 |
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Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
> Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pav=E7lnieks")
> by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
>
> The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father who
> liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
> (we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
> have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't want
> to give it unless it is good.
>
> I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in English
> (or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
> Linards Ticmanis
Get lost fake.. Go back to russia.
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242450 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 00:03 |
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Linard, I've only seen a small excerpt, but it was from a part of the
book I was very familiar with, and I was thrilled at how it came out.
Anita
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242451 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 00:07 |
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lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
> > Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pav=E7lnieks")
> > by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
> >
> > The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father who
> > liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
> > (we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
> > have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't want
> > to give it unless it is good.
> >
> > I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in English
> > (or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
> > Linards Ticmanis
>
> Get lost fake.. Go back to russia.
Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
Regards,
Martin
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242453 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 00:19 |
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martin wrote:
> Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
>
> Regards, Martin
The post meets certain criteria that fit a model previously identified
as being typical of russian baltophobic propaganda. Once enough
criteria are met, the rejoinder becomes automatic.
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242455 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 00:53 |
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lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> martin wrote:
> > Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
> >
> > Regards, Martin
>
> The post meets certain criteria that fit a model previously identified
> as being typical of russian baltophobic propaganda. Once enough
> criteria are met, the rejoinder becomes automatic.
So what are the criteria, btw? Never know when one may need to unmask
russian baltophobic propogandists.
Regards,
Martin
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242456 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 01:10 |
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martin wrote:
> lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> > Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
> > > Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pav=E7lniek=
s")
> > > by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
> > >
> > > The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father =
who
> > > liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
> > > (we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
> > > have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't wa=
nt
> > > to give it unless it is good.
> > >
> > > I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in Engli=
sh
> > > (or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
> > > Linards Ticmanis
> >
> > Get lost fake.. Go back to russia.
>
> Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
By posting it himself?
>=20
> Regards,
> Martin
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242457 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 01:18 |
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"Dmitry" <dmitrijsfedotovs [at] inbox.lv> wrote in message
news:1143501012.912937.37260 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
martin wrote:
> lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> > Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
> > > Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pavēlnieks")
> > > by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
> > >
> > > The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father
> > > who
> > > liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
> > > (we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
> > > have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't
> > > want
> > > to give it unless it is good.
> > >
> > > I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in
> > > English
> > > (or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
> > > Linards Ticmanis
> >
> > Get lost fake.. Go back to russia.
>
> Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
By posting it himself?
>
> Regards,
> Martin
But, then, we all know - by now - that Dimka
is a russkie genius!
Waal - I mean for a russkie - he is!
Best - - Henry
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242462 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 10:36 |
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lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
>
> Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > maybe somebody in one of these groups can answer this. Is the new
> > Latvian translation of "The Lord of the Rings" ("Gredzenu Pavēlnieks")
> > by Ieva Kolmane any good? I'm talking about the book, not the movies.
> >
> > The reason I ask is this: I'd like to give it as a gift to my father who
> > liked the movies very much. But I myself speak very little Latvian
> > (we're a diaspora family without much ties to the old country), so I
> > have no way to tell if the translation is good or bad. And I don't want
> > to give it unless it is good.
> >
> > I'm thankful for any help. It'd be great if you could answer in English
> > (or German) since as I said my Latvian is not good at all.
> > Linards Ticmanis
>
> Get lost fake.. Go back to russia.
You're talking shite. Prove he's a fake or shut the fuck up.
M.
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks"tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242467 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 15:02 |
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martin wrote:
>
> lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
>> martin wrote:
>> > Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
>> >
>> > Regards, Martin
>>
>> The post meets certain criteria that fit a model previously identified
>> as being typical of russian baltophobic propaganda. Once enough
>> criteria are met, the rejoinder becomes automatic.
>
> So what are the criteria, btw? Never know when one may need to unmask
> russian baltophobic propogandists.
>
I guess if you can't speak Latvian, but actually claim Latvian origin, you
must be a Russian Baltophobe. It certainly can't be because you're asking
whether a Latvian Tolkien translation is well done. I'll have to ask my
Latvian friend - who meets these criteria - if she's a Russian Baltophobe.
Cross-posting to soc.culture.baltics has certainly dragged down the
generally friendly nature of the tolkien newsgroups.
--
derek
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| Re: "Gredzenu PavƧlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242469 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 15:17 |
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Derek Broughton wrote:
> martin wrote:
>
> >
> > lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> >> martin wrote:
> >> > Remarkable. How did you deduce he was a fake?
> >> >
> >> > Regards, Martin
> >>
> >> The post meets certain criteria that fit a model previously identified
> >> as being typical of russian baltophobic propaganda. Once enough
> >> criteria are met, the rejoinder becomes automatic.
> >
> > So what are the criteria, btw? Never know when one may need to unmask
> > russian baltophobic propogandists.
> >
> I guess if you can't speak Latvian, but actually claim Latvian origin, you
> must be a Russian Baltophobe. It certainly can't be because you're asking
> whether a Latvian Tolkien translation is well done. I'll have to ask my
> Latvian friend - who meets these criteria - if she's a Russian Baltophobe.
>
> Cross-posting to soc.culture.baltics has certainly dragged down the
> generally friendly nature of the tolkien newsgroups.
> --
> derek
The poster who dragged down the friendly nature of your group has long
dragged down the nature of our group -- forgive him, for he knows not
what he does.
Regards,
/P
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242472 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 16:22 |
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lorad474 [at] cs.com wrote:
> The post meets certain criteria that fit a model previously identified
> as being typical of russian baltophobic propaganda. Once enough
> criteria are met, the rejoinder becomes automatic.
Thank you very much for your friendly answer. :-(
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Linards Ticmanis
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) Latvia [message #242473 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 16:23 |
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Pēteris Cedriņš (Peteris Cedrins) wrote:
> I haven't read it, but I've heard it's very good -- and Kolmane is a
> very highly respected translator.
Thanks! That's all I need to know, I think.
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Linards Ticmanis
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| Re: "Gredzenu Pavēlnieks" tulk. Ieva Kolmane / "Lord of the Rings" (book) [message #242474 ] |
Di, 28 März 2006 16:24 |
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anita wrote:
> Linard, I've only seen a small excerpt, but it was from a part of the
> book I was very familiar with, and I was thrilled at how it came out.
Thank you too. I'll try to get it then.
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Linards Ticmanis
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