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Horcrux, a thought [message #239261] Mi, 22 März 2006 23:04
John Szalay  
Had not seen this discussed before, if it has, keep on trucken.

(HBP)
Is it possible that the Snapes old potions book used to belong to Riddle
(V) ? since it was published around the same time that Riddle (V) was at
school. first Riddles book , then Snapes ?
so that some of the writing may belong to Riddle himeslf..
also possbily the last Horcrux ?

Just a thought.
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239266 ] Do, 23 März 2006 00:03
Froggy  
"John Szalay" <john.szalay [at] pullmyfinger.att.net> wrote in message
news:Xns978EADA9D8DAjohnszalaypullmyfing [at] 216.148.227.77...
> Had not seen this discussed before, if it has, keep on trucken.
>
> (HBP)
> Is it possible that the Snapes old potions book used to belong to Riddle
> (V) ? since it was published around the same time that Riddle (V) was at
> school. first Riddles book , then Snapes ?
> so that some of the writing may belong to Riddle himeslf..
> also possbily the last Horcrux ?
>
> Just a thought.

Hi, just a quick note for you. I've not seen you around however, I've seen
that you've not read the books (which you really should do, they're great)
But if you look around the Horcrux posts you'll find this was discussed. I
know there are thousands but if you have a question take a few minutes to
look around. HTH :)
--
(*)(*)
(------)
Froggy
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239267 ] Do, 23 März 2006 00:04
Ken  
John Szalay wrote:
> Had not seen this discussed before, if it has, keep on trucken.
>
> (HBP)
> Is it possible that the Snapes old potions book used to belong to
> Riddle (V) ? since it was published around the same time that Riddle
> (V) was at school. first Riddles book , then Snapes ?
> so that some of the writing may belong to Riddle himeslf..
> also possbily the last Horcrux ?
>
> Just a thought.

It's not likely; it doesn'y fit the mode.

"
»And they could be anything?« said Harry. »They could be old tin cans, or, I
dunno, empty potion bottles.?«

»You are thinking of Portkeys, Harry, which must be ordinary objects, easy
to overlook. But Lord Voldemort use tin cans or old potion bottles to guard
his own precious soul? You are forgetting what I have shown you. Lord
Voldemort liked to collect trophies, and he preferred objects with a
powerful magical history. His pride, his belief in his own superiority, his
determination to carve for himself a startling place in magical history;
these things suggest to me that Voldemort would have chosen his Horcruxes
with some care, favouring objects worthy of the honour.«

»The diary wasn't that special.«

»The diary, as you have said yourself, was proof that he was the heir of
Slytherin; I am sure that Voldemort considered it of stupendous
importance.«"
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239268 ] Do, 23 März 2006 00:23
scenario_dave  
> It's not likely; it doesn'y fit the mode.
>
> "
> =BBAnd they could be anything?=AB said Harry. =BBThey could be old tin ca=
ns, or, I
> dunno, empty potion bottles.?=AB
>
> =BBYou are thinking of Portkeys, Harry, which must be ordinary objects, e=
asy
> to overlook. But Lord Voldemort use tin cans or old potion bottles to gua=
rd
> his own precious soul? You are forgetting what I have shown you. Lord
> Voldemort liked to collect trophies, and he preferred objects with a
> powerful magical history. His pride, his belief in his own superiority, h=
is
> determination to carve for himself a startling place in magical history;
> these things suggest to me that Voldemort would have chosen his Horcruxes
> with some care, favouring objects worthy of the honour.=AB
>
> =BBThe diary wasn't that special.=AB

I thought the book in the Chamber of Secrets was a Horcrux. It looked
just like an ordinary book. I don't recall that it was an ancient book
owned by the founder of one of the houses or something like that.

I don't think JKR would use a book as a Horcrux twice. But since a
relatively ordinary object was used once, why not twice. The first
Horcrux was created when LV was young, maybe some of the other ones
were also. When he was older and more powerful, he looked for older
more powerful places to create his Horcrux in.

>
> =BBThe diary, as you have said yourself, was proof that he was the heir of
> Slytherin; I am sure that Voldemort considered it of stupendous
> importance.=AB"
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239271 ] Do, 23 März 2006 01:19
Ken  
scenario_dave wrote:
>> It's not likely; it doesn'y fit the mode.
>>
>> "
>> »And they could be anything?« said Harry. »They could be old tin
>> cans, or, I dunno, empty potion bottles.?«
>>
>> »You are thinking of Portkeys, Harry, which must be ordinary
>> objects, easy to overlook. But Lord Voldemort use tin cans or old
>> potion bottles to guard his own precious soul? You are forgetting
>> what I have shown you. Lord Voldemort liked to collect trophies, and
>> he preferred objects with a powerful magical history. His pride, his
>> belief in his own superiority, his determination to carve for
>> himself a startling place in magical history; these things suggest
>> to me that Voldemort would have chosen his Horcruxes with some care,
>> favouring objects worthy of the honour.«
>>
>> »The diary wasn't that special.«
>
> I thought the book in the Chamber of Secrets was a Horcrux. It looked
> just like an ordinary book. I don't recall that it was an ancient
> book owned by the founder of one of the houses or something like that.
>
> I don't think JKR would use a book as a Horcrux twice. But since a
> relatively ordinary object was used once, why not twice. The first
> Horcrux was created when LV was young, maybe some of the other ones
> were also. When he was older and more powerful, he looked for older
> more powerful places to create his Horcrux in.
>
>>
>> »The diary, as you have said yourself, was proof that he was the
>> heir of Slytherin; I am sure that Voldemort considered it of
>> stupendous importance.«"

"But since a relatively ordinary object was used once, why not twice."

Harry asked the same question. It wasn't just an ordianary object; DD
replied: "The diary, as you have said yourself, was proof that he was the
heir of Slytherin; I am sure that Voldemort considered it of stupendous
importance"
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239344 ] Do, 23 März 2006 21:07
John Szalay  
"Froggy" <shelbel007_2000 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vJkUf.9027$k75.5500 [at] newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
> Hi, just a quick note for you. I've not seen you around however, I've
> seen that you've not read the books (which you really should do,
> they're great)

Just a lurker, read ALL the books several times, read the posts when
there is NO arguing, or trolls. and post only when I see a need.


But if you look around the Horcrux posts you'll find
> this was discussed. I know there are thousands but if you have a
> question take a few minutes to look around. HTH :)


like I said, have not seen this one discussed..

retruning to lurk mode...
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239419 ] Fr, 24 März 2006 13:58
friesian  
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:07:26 GMT, John Szalay
<john.szalay [at] pullmyfinger.att.net> wrote:

>"Froggy" <shelbel007_2000 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:vJkUf.9027$k75.5500 [at] newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>> Hi, just a quick note for you. I've not seen you around however, I've
>> seen that you've not read the books (which you really should do,
>> they're great)
>
> Just a lurker, read ALL the books several times, read the posts when
>there is NO arguing, or trolls. and post only when I see a need.
>
>
> But if you look around the Horcrux posts you'll find
>> this was discussed. I know there are thousands but if you have a
>> question take a few minutes to look around. HTH :)
>
>
>like I said, have not seen this one discussed..
>

There was a recent discussion of who owned the book. A couple people
suggested Riddle. I believe it was last week. I can't remember which
thread title.



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Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239523 ] Sa, 25 März 2006 10:09
Toon  
On 24 Mar 2006 12:58:28 GMT, friesian [at] zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan
Noecker) wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:07:26 GMT, John Szalay
><john.szalay [at] pullmyfinger.att.net> wrote:
>
>>"Froggy" <shelbel007_2000 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:vJkUf.9027$k75.5500 [at] newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>> Hi, just a quick note for you. I've not seen you around however, I've
>>> seen that you've not read the books (which you really should do,
>>> they're great)
>>
>> Just a lurker, read ALL the books several times, read the posts when
>>there is NO arguing, or trolls. and post only when I see a need.
>>
>>
>> But if you look around the Horcrux posts you'll find
>>> this was discussed. I know there are thousands but if you have a
>>> question take a few minutes to look around. HTH :)
>>
>>
>>like I said, have not seen this one discussed..
>>
>
>There was a recent discussion of who owned the book. A couple people
>suggested Riddle. I believe it was last week. I can't remember which
>thread title.

I want someone to tell me why only the original owner can write in
their books, and nobody else ever can thereafter?
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239644 ] So, 26 März 2006 11:18
Idril  
I think that one of V's Horcruxes is his 'Services to the School' award
or similar. Like Dumbledore said, he likes to collect trophies.
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239654 ] So, 26 März 2006 13:21
friesian  
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:09:44 -0500, Toon <toon [at] toon.com> wrote:


>I want someone to tell me why only the original owner can write in
>their books, and nobody else ever can thereafter?

Beats me. I have written in text books, and many of them were used
before I bought them.
--
Meghan & the Zoo Crew
Equine and Pet Photography
http://www.zoocrewphoto.com
Re: Horcrux, a thought [message #239764 ] Mo, 27 März 2006 08:53
dicconf  
In article <652a22p36mnuecl78hogovha4jortnl0vj [at] 4ax.com>,
Toon <toon [at] toon.com> wrote:
>On 24 Mar 2006 12:58:28 GMT, friesian [at] zoocrewphoto.com (Meghan
>Noecker) wrote:
<snip>

>>There was a recent discussion of who owned the book. A couple people
>>suggested Riddle. I believe it was last week. I can't remember which
>>thread title.
>
>I want someone to tell me why only the original owner can write in
>their books, and nobody else ever can thereafter?

IIRC, in this particular case, all the handwriting was the same.
As far as we know, the book had two owners: Eileen, and Severus.
Eileen was a Gobstones champ, but may not have bothered to write
in her schoolbook; she may have used Scourgio to clean the pages
before she gave it to Severus, or he may have cleared away notes
that she had made.

=Tamar
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