| Horcruxes; Type [message #239006] |
Di, 21 März 2006 11:50 |
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there are a few things i noticed about the horcruxes belonging to the
slytherin, hufflepuff and gryffindor.
the artefact belonging to:
slytherin: is a LOCKET because slytherin was secretive, selfish.
hufflepuff: is a trophy because hufflepuff was ambitious, its like
winning sort of.
gryffindor: a sword because gyffindor was brave and courageous.
this isn't much but i think there could be a link somewhere.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239016 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 12:11 |
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i think ravenclaw could be a quill, book, parchment, scholar's hat, or
something related to that.
ravenclaw was brainy and smart.
still a link somewhere...
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239035 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 13:42 |
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coldh0pe wrote:
> i think ravenclaw could be a quill, book, parchment, scholar's hat, or
> something related to that.
>
> ravenclaw was brainy and smart.
>
> still a link somewhere...
There are loads of old posts about the connection between the four
founders and the four suits of tarot cards. I don't have a link, but
searching the term "horcrux" and "tarot" should get you a few hits if
you're interested. I thought it was interesting.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239088 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 19:35 |
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coldh0pe wrote:
> there are a few things i noticed about the horcruxes belonging to the
> slytherin, hufflepuff and gryffindor.
>
> the artefact belonging to:
> slytherin: is a LOCKET because slytherin was secretive, selfish.
> hufflepuff: is a trophy because hufflepuff was ambitious, its like
> winning sort of.
I think you are wrong here. I think Huffalpuff item is a cup because she
was down to earth and kept things she could use. It is rather in the
pattern of a cup that you drank from and then handed to a guest. As a
prof that the drink was ok to drink.
> gryffindor: a sword because gyffindor was brave and courageous.
>
> this isn't much but i think there could be a link somewhere.
I think the link you are looking for is what kind of shape to expect the
other item to be. The other item is most likely from ravenclaw and has
something to do with intelagence. But this has come up before.
By the way how old are glasses?
Other ideas some people have mentioned. A book with a metal binding. a
metal scrol, a metal or stone ink well. A pesal to make ink, a quill
pen. I don't think this is it as everything else is metal in the ones we
know. A item of head oranament or a metal lecturn. And I cant think of
any others that people mentioned.
--
Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239165 ] |
Mi, 22 März 2006 03:39 |
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At Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:35:20 -0800,
richard e white <chiphead [at] cox.net> strode forth and proclaimed:
> I think you are wrong here. I think Huffalpuff item is a cup because she
> was down to earth and kept things she could use. It is rather in the
> pattern of a cup that you drank from and then handed to a guest. As a
> prof that the drink was ok to drink.
When it was first described I couldn't help wondering if it was supposed
to be a miniature of a "loving cup". What the heck is that, you ask? Well,
loving cups were called that because they were too big and unwieldy for
one person to use them alone-- two people would be needed to lift them so
that one could drink. Thus, they were a symbol of cooperation and
fellowship.
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Petrea Mitchell <|> <|> <pravn [at] m5p.com> <mitchep [at] osm.com>
"Is science supposed to smell like banana creme?" ---MST3K
"A watched plot never thickens." ---Boris Badenov
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239167 ] |
Mi, 22 März 2006 03:50 |
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Petrea Mitchell escribió:
> At Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:35:20 -0800,
> richard e white <chiphead [at] cox.net> strode forth and proclaimed:
>
>> I think you are wrong here. I think Huffalpuff item is a cup because she
>> was down to earth and kept things she could use. It is rather in the
>> pattern of a cup that you drank from and then handed to a guest. As a
>> prof that the drink was ok to drink.
>
> When it was first described I couldn't help wondering if it was supposed
> to be a miniature of a "loving cup". What the heck is that, you ask? Well,
> loving cups were called that because they were too big and unwieldy for
> one person to use them alone-- two people would be needed to lift them so
> that one could drink. Thus, they were a symbol of cooperation and
> fellowship.
>
>
Ok, sometimes images are quite helpful (at least to me)
You mean these?
http://tinyurl.com/qzdpz
Some of them are trophies, others are simply gorgeous.
http://www.restore-pro.com/images/gallery/loving-cup-600.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/qepdm
But are not as I had imagined Helga's cup.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239282 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 03:42 |
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At Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:50:50 -0500,
drusilla <me [at] me.net> strode forth and proclaimed:
> Ok, sometimes images are quite helpful (at least to me)
> You mean these?
> http://tinyurl.com/qzdpz
> Some of them are trophies, others are simply gorgeous.
> http://www.restore-pro.com/images/gallery/loving-cup-600.jpg
> http://tinyurl.com/qepdm
Yes, that's the sort of thing I imagined. Only in miniature, of course,
since it's a little bitty thing that fits in a small box.
> But are not as I had imagined Helga's cup.
Well, I'm sure we'll get a more complete description when Harry gets
hold of it...
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Petrea Mitchell <|> <|> <pravn [at] m5p.com> <mitchep [at] osm.com>
"26. Two words for Data: FORMAT C:" ---Jonathan Perregaux
"Would you quit being evil over my shoulder?" ---MST3K
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #239345 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 21:23 |
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coldh0pe wrote:
> there are a few things i noticed about the horcruxes belonging to the
> slytherin, hufflepuff and gryffindor.
>
> the artefact belonging to:
> slytherin: is a LOCKET because slytherin was secretive, selfish.
> hufflepuff: is a trophy because hufflepuff was ambitious, its like
> winning sort of.
> gryffindor: a sword because gyffindor was brave and courageous.
>
> this isn't much but i think there could be a link somewhere.
Sorry! Did I miss something here? Where did JKR say that Griffindor's
sword is a Horcrox?
BriD
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #252903 ] |
Mi, 19 April 2006 13:00 |
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Thats a good theory of Hufflepuff's character.
Too bad i dont believe you.
You see, people and students in hufflepuff were ambitious and had good
futures, (i cant think of any other word).
SO IT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE.
coldh0pe
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #252924 ] |
Mi, 19 April 2006 23:03 |
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coldh0pe wrote:
> Thats a good theory of Hufflepuff's character.
> Too bad i dont believe you.
>
> You see, people and students in hufflepuff were ambitious and had good
> futures, (i cant think of any other word).
>
> SO IT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE.
>
> coldh0pe
Are you responding to richard e white here? I'm guessing that you are
referring to the statement that he made: " I think you are wrong here.
I think Huffalpuff item is a cup because she was down to earth and kept
things she could use. It is rather in the
pattern of a cup that you drank from and then handed to a guest. As a
prof that the drink was ok to drink." (Which makes sense to me).
At any rate, I'd have to disagree with you about Hufflepuffs being
ambitious. They are known for being hardworking; Slytherins are
notorious for being ambitious (among other things). As for Helga
Hufflepuff herself, according to the information on the back of her
chocolate frog card: "she brought people from different walks of life
together to help build Hogwarts and was loved for her charming ways."
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/founders.html#Hufflepuff
The Sorting Hat also supports that description of her (SS/PS); as
opposed to each of the other founders who selected students for their
Houses based on a quality that they prized, she willing accepted the
remaining students for her own.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #253488 ] |
Fr, 28 April 2006 09:43 |
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Kami wrote:
> coldh0pe wrote:
> > Thats a good theory of Hufflepuff's character.
> > Too bad i dont believe you.
> >
> > You see, people and students in hufflepuff were ambitious and had good
> > futures, (i cant think of any other word).
> >
> > SO IT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE.
> >
> > coldh0pe
>
> Are you responding to richard e white here? I'm guessing that you are
> referring to the statement that he made: " I think you are wrong here.
> I think Huffalpuff item is a cup because she was down to earth and kept
> things she could use. It is rather in the
> pattern of a cup that you drank from and then handed to a guest. As a
> prof that the drink was ok to drink." (Which makes sense to me).
>
> At any rate, I'd have to disagree with you about Hufflepuffs being
> ambitious. They are known for being hardworking; Slytherins are
> notorious for being ambitious (among other things). As for Helga
> Hufflepuff herself, according to the information on the back of her
> chocolate frog card: "she brought people from different walks of life
> together to help build Hogwarts and was loved for her charming ways."
What is said about the other founders on the backs of there cards?
>
> http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/founders.html#Hufflepuff
>
> The Sorting Hat also supports that description of her (SS/PS); as
> opposed to each of the other founders who selected students for their
> Houses based on a quality that they prized, she willing accepted the
> remaining students for her own.
She still sounds like the best one of the founders to know and work with.
--
Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #265214 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 13:07 |
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richard e white wrote:
> What is said about the other founders on the backs of there cards?
According to the Harry Potter Lexicon, Rowena Ravenclaw's Famous Wizard
card tells us that "it's thought that she came up with the
ever-changing floor plan. She's best remembered for her intelligence
and creativity."
Unfortunately, I was only able to find Famous Wizard card quotes for
two of the four founders. I was also curious about what we could learn
about Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin from their cards, but no
such luck. The following information was under the heading of The
Founders of Hogwarts:
According to the Sorting Hat, Hufflepuff came "from valley broad."
Ravenclaw came "from glen." Gryffindor came "from wild moor." Slytherin
came "from the fen."
Godric Gryffindor believed that anyone who showed magical ability
should be allowed to attend Hogwarts. The Sorting Hat originally
belonged to Gryffindor. His sword, with rubies in the handle, has also
survived and is in the possession of Dumbledore. It is possible that
the village of Godric's Hollow is named after Godric Gryffindor.
Salazar Slytherin believed that only pure-blood witches and wizards
should be allowed to attend Hogwarts. He got into an argument with
Godric Gryffindor about this and eventually left the school. There was
a legend that Slytherin built a secret chamber somewhere in Hogwarts
that only his true heir would be able to open. This chamber, called the
Chamber of Secrets, contained a monster that would finish his "noble
purpose" of killing all the Muggle-born students at Hogwarts. As
Slytherin's heir, Tom Riddle did open the Chamber and released the
monster, a basilisk. Harry Potter defeated the basilisk with the help
of Fawkes the phoenix and the sword of Gryffindor (CS).
Slytherin was a Parselmouth (CS).
There is some evidence that Slytherin was unusual looking. In CS17, the
statue of Slytherin was described as being "ancient and monkey-like."
Harry Potter has many qualities Salazar Slytherin prized in his
hand-picked students: Parselmouth -- resourcefulness -- determination
-- a certain disregard for rules.
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| Re: Horcruxes; Type [message #265233 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 06:07 |
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"Kami" <Slytherin-witch [at] hotmail.com> wrote in news:1147518457.780715.53290
[at] v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
> There is some evidence that Slytherin was unusual looking. In CS17, the
> statue of Slytherin was described as being "ancient and monkey-like."
Marvolo Gaunt, Slytherin's next-to-last pure-blood descendant, is described
as looking like a "powerful, aged monkey." Morfin, his last pure-blood
descendant, is shown jumping out of trees.
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