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Fantasy » alt.fan.dragons » Short stories bite!
| Short stories bite! [message #236700] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 11:58 |
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*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
What do you do to keep the story accurate and alive, but not burst the word
dam?
It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story appart,
remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my page up
and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
Parrying Pegasus
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236703 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 14:59 |
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Pegasus wrote:
> *sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
> where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
> and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
> What do you do to keep the story accurate and alive, but not burst the word
> dam?
> It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story appart,
> remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
> pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
> Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my page up
> and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
> Parrying Pegasus
A friend of mine is actually a professional writer and has had several
books published and she told me once that short stories are actually
harder to write than novellas or full length books. What she
recommends is to make sure you have a precise outline for the story and
stick to it... something I've constantly had trouble with because it
seems the story always has it's own ideas about where it wants to go,
and my desires are merely taken as a suggestion with no obligation to
be followed...
~J'Karrah
The EbonDragon's Lair: http://ebon-dragon.com/
My Sculptures: http://ebon-dragon.com/Sculptures.html
My Online Store: http://www.cafepress.com/ebondragon
"Those willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom
nor security"
~ Benjamin Franklin
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236705 ] |
Mi, 15 März 2006 19:58 |
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"Pegasus" wrote:
> It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story appart,
> remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
> pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
> Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my page
> up
> and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
For a 1000 word story, you need a plot that isn't too twisty... if it turns
out that way, it might be it isn't a good plot for a short story. Having no
dialogue and minimum decription to race through a long plot isn't ideal.
One fun exercise is to try and write something like an 100 word story. There
the plot has to be very precise to fit the word limit.
--
Polenth
* The Dragon Stone *
http://www.polenth.demon.co.uk/
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236722 ] |
Do, 16 März 2006 08:07 |
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J'Karrah EbonDragon <jkarrah [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1142431191.773372.173480 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Pegasus wrote:
> > *sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the
problem
> > where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word
short),
> > and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
> > What do you do to keep the story accurate and alive, but not burst the
word
> > dam?
> > It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story
appart,
> > remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
> > pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
> > Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my
page up
> > and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
> > Parrying Pegasus
>
> A friend of mine is actually a professional writer and has had several
> books published and she told me once that short stories are actually
> harder to write than novellas or full length books. What she
> recommends is to make sure you have a precise outline for the story and
> stick to it... something I've constantly had trouble with because it
> seems the story always has it's own ideas about where it wants to go,
> and my desires are merely taken as a suggestion with no obligation to
> be followed...
>
I do... I just keep finding more plot twisties and stuff to add to it!
>
>
> ~J'Karrah
> The EbonDragon's Lair: http://ebon-dragon.com/
> My Sculptures: http://ebon-dragon.com/Sculptures.html
> My Online Store: http://www.cafepress.com/ebondragon
>
> "Those willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom
> nor security"
> ~ Benjamin Franklin
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236723 ] |
Do, 16 März 2006 08:08 |
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Polenth <news [at] polenth.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dv9o4d$p7q$1$830fa17d [at] news.demon.co.uk...
>
> "Pegasus" wrote:
> > It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story
appart,
> > remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
> > pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
> > Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my
page
> > up
> > and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
>
> For a 1000 word story, you need a plot that isn't too twisty... if it
turns
> out that way, it might be it isn't a good plot for a short story. Having
no
> dialogue and minimum decription to race through a long plot isn't ideal.
>
> One fun exercise is to try and write something like an 100 word story.
There
> the plot has to be very precise to fit the word limit.
>
*keels over* I managed to get it to about 1200 words... now all I've got to
do is wait for the mark *bites hooves in anticipation*
>
> --
> Polenth
>
> * The Dragon Stone *
> http://www.polenth.demon.co.uk/
>
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236730 ] |
Do, 16 März 2006 23:22 |
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In article <SrSRf.7298$dy4.3673 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
>where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
>and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
>What do you do to keep the story accurate and alive, but not burst the word
>dam?
>It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story appart,
>remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
>pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
>Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my page up
>and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
If I ever figure that out, I'll let you know. None of the stories I've tried
to keep that short have ever turned out to be worth anything in that form. As
much as I enjoy reading them, I just can't manage to write them.
--
FlameStrike
"My honor is my life!"
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236745 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 06:44 |
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FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:pylSf.44080$2O6.5456 [at] newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <SrSRf.7298$dy4.3673 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
> >where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
> >and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
> >What do you do to keep the story accurate and alive, but not burst the
word
> >dam?
> >It always seems to happen. I've just had to completely rip a story
appart,
> >remove the dialogue and commentate the whole thing. Not to mention I've
> >pulled the plug on all but the most vital descriptions...
> >Hmmm. It's a bit of a twisty plotline, too. When I eventually get my page
up
> >and running again, I drop you all a link so you can read it.
>
> If I ever figure that out, I'll let you know. None of the stories I've
tried
> to keep that short have ever turned out to be worth anything in that form.
As
> much as I enjoy reading them, I just can't manage to write them.
I'm sure they're not all _That_ bad...
>
> --
> FlameStrike
> "My honor is my life!"
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236747 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 07:20 |
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In article <v1sSf.8546$dy4.3128 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:pylSf.44080$2O6.5456 [at] newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> If I ever figure that out, I'll let you know. None of the stories I've
>tried
>> to keep that short have ever turned out to be worth anything in that form.
>As
>> much as I enjoy reading them, I just can't manage to write them.
>
>I'm sure they're not all _That_ bad...
Well, I belive the ideas I'm playing with are good ones, the execution just
needs a lot of work. Unfortunately, that always extends them beyond the length
I was going for. I'm not not tearing my scales out over it though. It will
work itself out in the end.
--
FlameStrike
"My honor is my life!"
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236748 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 08:07 |
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FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:sysSf.1557$4L1.903 [at] newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <v1sSf.8546$dy4.3128 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:pylSf.44080$2O6.5456 [at] newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> >> If I ever figure that out, I'll let you know. None of the stories I've
> >tried
> >> to keep that short have ever turned out to be worth anything in that
form.
> >As
> >> much as I enjoy reading them, I just can't manage to write them.
> >
> >I'm sure they're not all _That_ bad...
>
> Well, I belive the ideas I'm playing with are good ones, the execution
just
> needs a lot of work. Unfortunately, that always extends them beyond the
length
> I was going for. I'm not not tearing my scales out over it though. It will
> work itself out in the end.
It most always seems to...
I'm currently wracking my brain on another story. I have the beginning, the
middle and the end. It should be easy right? Pah! I'm going somewhere, only
I don't know the road I'm on. I know where I started and the destiantion's
final, but how I get there is anybody's guess. I know the landmarks to look
for, but like the rest of my story, they're want to change in a heartbeat as
the story goes cross-country on a path I didn't even have marked on the map.
*Grins* I can't believe I took that long to use one metaphor to describe my
story... or at least how it is heading, anyway. No wonder I write so much...
Partially Puzzled Pegasus
>
> --
> FlameStrike
> "My honor is my life!"
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236756 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 17:09 |
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In article <SrSRf.7298$dy4.3673 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
>where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
>and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
3000? I haven't written under 5000!
Well....*checks the two from the summer*
Never mind, I've got a 900 word shoty here. :P The other one is 2600.
Still, those two were all supposed to be "3 pages." The 900 one is 5.
My longest (and actually incomplete) is 6248 words (21 pages) long.
--
Draco18s
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236758 ] |
Fr, 17 März 2006 23:44 |
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In article <QetSf.8618$dy4.2389 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>I'm currently wracking my brain on another story. I have the beginning, the
>middle and the end. It should be easy right? Pah! I'm going somewhere, only
>I don't know the road I'm on. I know where I started and the destiantion's
>final, but how I get there is anybody's guess. I know the landmarks to look
>for, but like the rest of my story, they're want to change in a heartbeat as
>the story goes cross-country on a path I didn't even have marked on the map.
>*Grins* I can't believe I took that long to use one metaphor to describe my
>story... or at least how it is heading, anyway. No wonder I write so much...
Yeah, I know how that goes. Another one that annoys me is when the main
character just can't seem to figure out what he wants to do. He sits around
for half the story, or longer, thinking about what he should do, and this was
supposed to be a much faster paced story than he's letting it become. I know
what he is ultimately going to decide, but he's sure taking his time making
the decision.
That one's on hold while i let the character think things through. In the mean
time, I'm trying to come up with a few names for characters in a couple of
other stories. Always one of the worst parts of this process for me.
--
FlameStrike
"My honor is my life!"
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236776 ] |
Sa, 18 März 2006 05:07 |
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FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3ZGSf.39757$_S7.13449 [at] newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <QetSf.8618$dy4.2389 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >I'm currently wracking my brain on another story. I have the beginning,
the
> >middle and the end. It should be easy right? Pah! I'm going somewhere,
only
> >I don't know the road I'm on. I know where I started and the
destiantion's
> >final, but how I get there is anybody's guess. I know the landmarks to
look
> >for, but like the rest of my story, they're want to change in a heartbeat
as
> >the story goes cross-country on a path I didn't even have marked on the
map.
> >*Grins* I can't believe I took that long to use one metaphor to describe
my
> >story... or at least how it is heading, anyway. No wonder I write so
much...
>
> Yeah, I know how that goes. Another one that annoys me is when the main
> character just can't seem to figure out what he wants to do. He sits
around
> for half the story, or longer, thinking about what he should do, and this
was
> supposed to be a much faster paced story than he's letting it become. I
know
> what he is ultimately going to decide, but he's sure taking his time
making
> the decision.
>
*laughs* Oh, I know... you get the general direction, but no instructions on
how to use the map!
> That one's on hold while i let the character think things through. In the
mean
> time, I'm trying to come up with a few names for characters in a couple of
> other stories. Always one of the worst parts of this process for me.
>
Well, I mainly make up my own names, but sometimes I use historical ones.
Wynn is a good example. It means 'joy' in olde english. It's for an orphaned
character with a lot of problems. Sort of ironic, but the general sound of
the name is important for me too. As far as I'm concerned, the naming of the
character is as important as the character itself.
> --
> FlameStrike
> "My honor is my life!"
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236777 ] |
Sa, 18 März 2006 05:08 |
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Draco18s <draco18s2 [at] _SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e84a9433d76a5df989782 [at] news.teranews.com...
> In article <SrSRf.7298$dy4.3673 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
> >where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
> >and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
>
> 3000? I haven't written under 5000!
> Well....*checks the two from the summer*
> Never mind, I've got a 900 word shoty here. :P The other one is 2600.
> Still, those two were all supposed to be "3 pages." The 900 one is 5.
> My longest (and actually incomplete) is 6248 words (21 pages) long.
>
These are projects I'm forced into by the school. My longest one is curently
about 30 handwritten pages long... but I have two others of about the same
length. I plan for short to medium novel size.
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> ---W"W----'-'----'-'----'-'----------'--------------
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236797 ] |
Sa, 18 März 2006 23:41 |
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In article <SHLSf.9379$dy4.6225 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>Well, I mainly make up my own names, but sometimes I use historical ones.
>Wynn is a good example. It means 'joy' in olde english. It's for an orphaned
>character with a lot of problems. Sort of ironic, but the general sound of
>the name is important for me too. As far as I'm concerned, the naming of the
>character is as important as the character itself.
Most definitely.
Harry Potter would only be half as exciting without all the references and
minute details like names such as Prof. Umbridge. Umbrage means to take
offence.
--
Draco18s
DC2.Dw Gm L- W- T Phvwalt Sks Cag^ Bco|# A- Fr Nu M--- O H+ $ Fo R+++ Ac+ J+
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(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
---W"W----'-'----'-'----'-'----------'--------------
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236798 ] |
Sa, 18 März 2006 23:42 |
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In article <lJLSf.9381$dy4.8850 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>
>Draco18s <draco18s2 [at] _SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1e84a9433d76a5df989782 [at] news.teranews.com...
>> In article <SrSRf.7298$dy4.3673 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
>> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>> >*sighs* For the other writers, does anybody else seem to have the problem
>> >where you go to write a short story (I mean short. Like 1000 word short),
>> >and all of a sudden *BOOM* the thing is 3000 words long!
>>
>> 3000? I haven't written under 5000!
>> Well....*checks the two from the summer*
>> Never mind, I've got a 900 word shoty here. :P The other one is 2600.
>> Still, those two were all supposed to be "3 pages." The 900 one is 5.
>> My longest (and actually incomplete) is 6248 words (21 pages) long.
>>
>
>These are projects I'm forced into by the school. My longest one is curently
>about 30 handwritten pages long... but I have two others of about the same
>length. I plan for short to medium novel size.
I never said mine *weren't* for school. };=3)~
All of them were for "Maximum of 3 pages" assignments.
--
Draco18s
DC2.Dw Gm L- W- T Phvwalt Sks Cag^ Bco|# A- Fr Nu M--- O H+ $ Fo R+++ Ac+ J+
S+ I-# V++ Q++ Tc+++[C++]/Tc--- E+
"Yum!" |> v-v-v-v |>
| , , .|. | n | .|.
'. |_/| | |'''''''''''| | \
(q p),-| | HERSHEY'S | |'-._ ))
/_(/ | | CHO|"|LIT | | ) '-.___//
---W"W----'-'----'-'----'-'----------'--------------
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236880 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 07:03 |
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In article <SHLSf.9379$dy4.6225 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>*laughs* Oh, I know... you get the general direction, but no instructions on
>how to use the map!
More like I know where the map is pointing, I just can't get the mule / horse
/ whatever to move.
>Well, I mainly make up my own names, but sometimes I use historical ones.
>Wynn is a good example. It means 'joy' in olde english. It's for an orphaned
>character with a lot of problems. Sort of ironic, but the general sound of
>the name is important for me too. As far as I'm concerned, the naming of the
>character is as important as the character itself.
Would that it were that easy for me. I've resorted to searching for
appropriate Gaelic words in one case, but another one requires an acronym,
and that one's taking forever to come up with. You know how many synonyms I
have to search for, then try arranging in different combinations, just to
start. Then throw all of them out when they don't work and start trying all
over again.
Naming a computer is not an easy task.
--
FlameStrike
"My honor is my life!"
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236889 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 10:12 |
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FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CGMTf.3635$tN3.2619 [at] newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> In article <SHLSf.9379$dy4.6225 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >*laughs* Oh, I know... you get the general direction, but no instructions
on
> >how to use the map!
>
> More like I know where the map is pointing, I just can't get the mule /
horse
> / whatever to move.
A carrot will work wonders!
>
> >Well, I mainly make up my own names, but sometimes I use historical ones.
> >Wynn is a good example. It means 'joy' in olde english. It's for an
orphaned
> >character with a lot of problems. Sort of ironic, but the general sound
of
> >the name is important for me too. As far as I'm concerned, the naming of
the
> >character is as important as the character itself.
>
> Would that it were that easy for me. I've resorted to searching for
> appropriate Gaelic words in one case, but another one requires an acronym,
> and that one's taking forever to come up with. You know how many synonyms
I
> have to search for, then try arranging in different combinations, just to
> start. Then throw all of them out when they don't work and start trying
all
> over again.
I just keep a list of all the names I like when I come accross them.
>
> Naming a computer is not an easy task.
> --
> FlameStrike
> "My honor is my life!"
>
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236926 ] |
Mi, 22 März 2006 15:46 |
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In article <LrPTf.12577$dy4.6518 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
>> More like I know where the map is pointing, I just can't get the mule /
>horse
>> / whatever to move.
>
>A carrot will work wonders!
In terms of this story, I've tried that. The character is too stubborn. I've
considered just picking him up and throwing him in the basic direction, but I
decided to try getting into his head first. I'm currently rewriting it from
his perspective, literally. It was third person, it's now first. Maybe that
will help.
>I just keep a list of all the names I like when I come accross them.
Doesn't always work when not all of your characters are human. SHODAN, for
example, is probably copyrighted, or trademarked, or whatever, such that it's
tied in very closely to a previous title. In any case, I'm not sure I want to
try getting away with it. Thus, the need for a new computer name.
--
FlameStrike
"My honor is my life!"
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| Re: Short stories bite! [message #236963 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 12:52 |
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FlameStrike <flamestrike [at] flame.strike.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2rdUf.58355$H71.53744 [at] newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> In article <LrPTf.12577$dy4.6518 [at] news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> the_sarah_is [at] bigpond.com says...
> >> More like I know where the map is pointing, I just can't get the mule /
> >horse
> >> / whatever to move.
> >
> >A carrot will work wonders!
>
> In terms of this story, I've tried that. The character is too stubborn.
I've
> considered just picking him up and throwing him in the basic direction,
but I
> decided to try getting into his head first. I'm currently rewriting it
from
> his perspective, literally. It was third person, it's now first. Maybe
that
> will help.
Gotta get inside his head and see how it works. Quite often I'll (okay,
admitedly this sounds wierd) get inside one of my characters for an hour or
so and write a journal from them, or a poem, or even a letter and it helps
me see things differently.
>
> >I just keep a list of all the names I like when I come accross them.
>
> Doesn't always work when not all of your characters are human. SHODAN, for
> example, is probably copyrighted, or trademarked, or whatever, such that
it's
> tied in very closely to a previous title. In any case, I'm not sure I want
to
> try getting away with it. Thus, the need for a new computer name.
Oh, most of my characters aren't human. I play with everything from dragons,
Unicorns, centaurs, nymphs, dryans, shapeshifters, wolves... it goes on.
Only a minority of my characters are acutally human.
> --
> FlameStrike
> "My honor is my life!"
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