| Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236378] |
Di, 21 März 2006 01:38 |
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Does anyone know how long Vader can have his helmet off before it must
be put back on?
I thought that he had to be in a pressureized enviorment before he could
take it off but in the scene where he is in the meditation chamber when
we catch a glimpse of the backside of his head the chamber was open!
At the end of ROTJ when Luke took Vaders helmet off it was just a matter
of minutes before he died.
Remember that just as Luke loosened the helmet you can hear the air rush
out.
Maybe it was the after effects of the "force lightning" attack from the
Emperor that killed him right?
Just wondering....
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236379 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 02:39 |
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"Sean White" <Sean376 [at] webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21750-441F4AED-3057 [at] storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> Does anyone know how long Vader can have his helmet off before it must
> be put back on?
>
> I thought that he had to be in a pressureized enviorment before he could
> take it off but in the scene where he is in the meditation chamber when
> we catch a glimpse of the backside of his head the chamber was open!
I'm sure Vader can hold his breath for a few seconds. The chamber wasn't
open the whole time he was feeling the breeze.
>
> At the end of ROTJ when Luke took Vaders helmet off it was just a matter
> of minutes before he died.
> Remember that just as Luke loosened the helmet you can hear the air rush
> out.
>
> Maybe it was the after effects of the "force lightning" attack from the
> Emperor that killed him right?
Vader as much said he was dying even before Luke agreed to lift the helmet
and there was clearly something audibly wrong with his breathing. The
Chancellor's lightning likely broke his life support suit so he was on his
own for the entire time Luke was hauling him to the docking bay.
Plus, it looked like Luke was going to be stubborn about not leaving him
behind and the rebel scum were about to break the Death Star around them so
Vader probably figured - fuck it, I've said my piece and I'm not in the mood
for another parental argument - I'm leaving.
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236385 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 17:38 |
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Quoth Sean White:
: Does anyone know how long Vader can have his helmet off before it must
: be put back on?
: I thought that he had to be in a pressureized enviorment before he could
: take it off but in the scene where he is in the meditation chamber when
: we catch a glimpse of the backside of his head the chamber was open!
He was just trying to freak out General Veers.
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236387 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 19:24 |
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"Sean White" <Sean376 [at] webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21750-441F4AED-3057 [at] storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> Does anyone know how long Vader can have his helmet off before it must
> be put back on?
>
> I thought that he had to be in a pressureized enviorment before he could
> take it off but in the scene where he is in the meditation chamber when
> we catch a glimpse of the backside of his head the chamber was open!
>
> At the end of ROTJ when Luke took Vaders helmet off it was just a matter
> of minutes before he died.
> Remember that just as Luke loosened the helmet you can hear the air rush
> out.
>
> Maybe it was the after effects of the "force lightning" attack from the
> Emperor that killed him right?
>
> Just wondering....
>
>
I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not only
the helmet, but the mask.
_______________________________
There's no such thing as a final frontier
/DT, Stockholm, Sweden
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236388 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 19:56 |
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"Darth This" <spam_gson [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OxXTf.7890$zc1.1460 [at] amstwist00...
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>
> I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not
> only the helmet, but the mask.
>
Oops, bad spellcheck: "look" should be "Luke".
*Swedish* :-)
_______________________________
There's no such thing as a final frontier
/DT, Stockholm, Sweden
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236390 ] |
Di, 21 März 2006 23:00 |
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> I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not
> only the helmet, but the mask.
In ESB, the mask and helmet were attached so they were both off. It was only
starting in ROTJ (and ROS) that the mask and helmet became separate pieces
to be disassembled.
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236400 ] |
Mi, 22 März 2006 19:44 |
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"SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
news:nI_Tf.601335$qk4.425896 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not
>> only the helmet, but the mask.
>
> In ESB, the mask and helmet were attached so they were both off. It was
> only starting in ROTJ (and ROS) that the mask and helmet became separate
> pieces to be disassembled.
>
Really?
And how do you know this?
_______________________________
There's no such thing as a final frontier
/DT, Stockholm, Sweden
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236406 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 00:05 |
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"Darth This" <spam_gson [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%VgUf.7962$zc1.2530 [at] amstwist00...
> "SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
> news:nI_Tf.601335$qk4.425896 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not
>>> only the helmet, but the mask.
>>
>> In ESB, the mask and helmet were attached so they were both off. It was
>> only starting in ROTJ (and ROS) that the mask and helmet became separate
>> pieces to be disassembled.
>>
>
>
> Really?
> And how do you know this?
Rewatch the scene in ESB.
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236408 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 01:42 |
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"SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
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> "Darth This" <spam_gson [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%VgUf.7962$zc1.2530 [at] amstwist00...
>> "SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
>> news:nI_Tf.601335$qk4.425896 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> I think he could manage without the helmet. What look took off was not
>>>> only the helmet, but the mask.
>>>
>>> In ESB, the mask and helmet were attached so they were both off. It was
>>> only starting in ROTJ (and ROS) that the mask and helmet became separate
>>> pieces to be disassembled.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Really?
>> And how do you know this?
>
> Rewatch the scene in ESB.
He is correct. I just watched it here on my computer and you can see there
is front to the helmet and the top of Vader's head does not have anything on
it.
DKM
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| Re: Vader's helmet off in ESB [message #236416 ] |
Do, 23 März 2006 06:27 |
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On 21 Mar 2006 16:38:29 GMT, no-spam [at] sonic.net (Scoop) wrote:
>Quoth Sean White:
>: Does anyone know how long Vader can have his helmet off before it must
>: be put back on?
>
>: I thought that he had to be in a pressureized enviorment before he could
>: take it off but in the scene where he is in the meditation chamber when
>: we catch a glimpse of the backside of his head the chamber was open!
>
>He was just trying to freak out General Veers.
For all we know the meditation chamber was pressurized and just
separated with an invisible energy field.
--
John Duncan Yoyo
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