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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » Rewatched TB......
| Rewatched TB...... [message #232467] |
So, 05 März 2006 05:34 |
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Since I did a mini-review of TWINE last week, I figured I would follow up
with the same for Thunderball. I just had surgery so I'm bored and in a
Bondian mood, lol....so bear with me....and no, I'm not on heavy meds, lol
pluses - Connery's relaxed yet completely confident performance, along with
some great quips and gestures. Too many great lines to list. The underwater
sequences are surprisingly good, despite being 40 yrs old. It's not easy to
make them exciting but Terence Young did a very good job. Are there three
more beautiful women to appear in the same Bond movie? Luciana Paluzzi was
absolutely stunning and very good, IMHO. The movie is not as gadgety as some
critics claim. They should watch some of the newer films, lol. And, lest we
forget, the movie contains Vargas, nuff said. Excellent PCS, too, with
Connery in a vicious fight with a SPECTRE assassin, Jacques Boitier.
minuses - Claudine Auger is gorgeous but isn't given much to do, Largo is a
good villain but isn't quite on the same level as Goldfinger, Dr. No, etc.
Bond's grazed leg is mysteriously healed in the next scene, lol, but that's
a minor point. Some special effects look dated, but probably looked great 40
yrs ago.
Overall, this is an exciting film and quite "down to earth" compared to
today's standards. Connery gives a very good performance and manages to
blend all of Bond's characteristics effortlessly. The movie is worth
watching simply to see the beautiful women. Overall, not quite at the top,
but a notch below Bond's best adventures. It appears as a top 5 or 6 Bond
film, IMHO.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232470 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 15:25 |
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"Will" <willt65 [at] comcast.net> wrote in
news:NOudnSOu99jc95fZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d [at] comcast.com:
> Since I did a mini-review of TWINE last week, I figured I would follow
> up with the same for Thunderball. I just had surgery so I'm bored and
> in a Bondian mood, lol....so bear with me....and no, I'm not on heavy
> meds, lol
> minuses - Claudine Auger is gorgeous but isn't given much to do, Largo
Nice little review. To this day, I believe Ms. Auger is the most desirable
bond girl of any movie.
That being said, if you watch the first few movies back-to-back, TB feels a
bit gimmicky and over the top relative to GF and FRWL. As has been said,
the 'bond formula' was 'perfected' with GF, and you can see where TB took
it to the "too much" level!
Regardless, TB remains one of my top 5 bond movies, easily. The sets.
story, and pace of the movie have a fond space in my heart.
JP
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232475 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 17:38 |
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"Jon R Patrick" <jonrpatrick [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977D6065E22D0jonrpatrickhotmailco [at] 216.77.188.18...
> "Will" <willt65 [at] comcast.net> wrote in
> news:NOudnSOu99jc95fZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d [at] comcast.com:
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>> Since I did a mini-review of TWINE last week, I figured I would follow
>> up with the same for Thunderball. I just had surgery so I'm bored and
>> in a Bondian mood, lol....so bear with me....and no, I'm not on heavy
>> meds, lol
>> minuses - Claudine Auger is gorgeous but isn't given much to do, Largo
>
> Nice little review. To this day, I believe Ms. Auger is the most
> desirable
> bond girl of any movie.
> That being said, if you watch the first few movies back-to-back, TB feels
> a
> bit gimmicky and over the top relative to GF and FRWL. As has been said,
> the 'bond formula' was 'perfected' with GF, and you can see where TB took
> it to the "too much" level!
>
> Regardless, TB remains one of my top 5 bond movies, easily. The sets.
> story, and pace of the movie have a fond space in my heart.
> JP
compared to the previous films it's a bit more gadgety, but compared to the
70s films and Brosnan's tenure, it's downright earthy, lol
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232517 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 18:57 |
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I agree that their are a lot of great lines, and I agree Terence Young
did as good a job as he could have with the underwater stuff. I don't
know that I would characterize TB as a "down to earth" Bond, though. I
mean, infiltrating NATO with an identical imposter, crashing into the
Caribbean Sea and being unloaded into a hydrofoil that can separate
into two sections (a gimmick that sticks in my head everytime the
Enterprise separates)...the whole premise is pretty farfetched. It
doesn't seem it today because we've seen so many "International Nuclear
Blackmail" stories, but it's still an idea that works best in the Bond
world.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232519 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 19:09 |
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"Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141667852.159131.85940 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I agree that their are a lot of great lines, and I agree Terence Young
> did as good a job as he could have with the underwater stuff. I don't
> know that I would characterize TB as a "down to earth" Bond, though. I
> mean, infiltrating NATO with an identical imposter, crashing into the
> Caribbean Sea and being unloaded into a hydrofoil that can separate
> into two sections (a gimmick that sticks in my head everytime the
> Enterprise separates)...the whole premise is pretty farfetched. It
> doesn't seem it today because we've seen so many "International Nuclear
> Blackmail" stories, but it's still an idea that works best in the Bond
> world.
>
Rewatch MR, YOLT, TSWLM, TND, DAD and tell me TB isn't "down to earth."
Compared to them, TB is downright earthy, lol
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232521 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 19:46 |
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>Rewatch MR, YOLT, TSWLM, TND, DAD and tell me TB isn't "down to earth."
MR, I think we can all agree, should never be invoked in a comparison
in much the way most Usenet users agreed that once a debate devolved
into a Hitler reference, the intellectual discourse had finished. YOLT
and TSWLM are basically the same movie, though I have to say I don't
think TSWLM is nearly as "out there," simply because a large oil tanker
is much more believable than a hollowed out volcano and capturing
submarines is more believable than capturing rockets. DAD is, its
first half notwithstanding, the second coming of MR and I similarly
refuse to defend that one. But what's your problem with TND? The
media mogul generating a war may have been a bit weak, but I didn't
find it at all unbelievable. It may have ventured a bit into
Conspiracytheoryland, but there was nothing impossible, or even
implausible about the movie. The helicopter/motorcycle stunt piece was
contrived, I'll grant you. Even still, I would argue TND is more "down
to earth" than TB.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232525 ] |
Mo, 06 März 2006 21:40 |
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"Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141670800.966272.190020 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >Rewatch MR, YOLT, TSWLM, TND, DAD and tell me TB isn't "down to earth."
>
> MR, I think we can all agree, should never be invoked in a comparison
> in much the way most Usenet users agreed that once a debate devolved
> into a Hitler reference, the intellectual discourse had finished. YOLT
> and TSWLM are basically the same movie, though I have to say I don't
> think TSWLM is nearly as "out there," simply because a large oil tanker
> is much more believable than a hollowed out volcano and capturing
> submarines is more believable than capturing rockets. DAD is, its
> first half notwithstanding, the second coming of MR and I similarly
> refuse to defend that one. But what's your problem with TND? The
> media mogul generating a war may have been a bit weak, but I didn't
> find it at all unbelievable. It may have ventured a bit into
> Conspiracytheoryland, but there was nothing impossible, or even
> implausible about the movie. The helicopter/motorcycle stunt piece was
> contrived, I'll grant you. Even still, I would argue TND is more "down
> to earth" than TB.
>
The backseat driver action sequence is fun but entirely ridiculous...as is
the motorcycle sequence, the chop-socky stuff with Michelle Yeoh, the Lethal
Weapon gun fight finale, the stunt tearing down the billboard, etc.
etc....none of it worked for me at all.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #232557 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 06:01 |
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Will asserted:
>The backseat driver action sequence is fun but entirely ridiculous...as is the motorcycle sequence, the chop-socky stuff with Michelle Yeoh, the Lethal Weapon gun fight finale, the stunt tearing down the billboard, etc. etc....none of it worked for me at all.
The backseat driver bit, I agree with you. I'm not a fan of the cell
phone as a remote control for a car, unless it's Batman's. The
motorcycle scene, despite being a bit too long and indulgent, I thought
actually worked fairly well, and I'm hard pressed to complain about
virtually any scene that had Michelle Yeoh in it, deliberately corny
dialogue and all. The billboard escape worked for me except it's
always bothered me that the implication is that none of Carver's goons
apparently thought to simply run down to the ground floor and stop Bond
and Wai Lin on their way out (they crashed through a window in the same
building, after all!). I agree that the stunt team wrote too much of
the script on TND, but I still thought 90+% of the movie was perfectly
believable, if a tad contrived.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #233033 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 15:59 |
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"Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141707680.183391.325680 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Will asserted:
>>The backseat driver action sequence is fun but entirely ridiculous...as is
>>the motorcycle sequence, the chop-socky stuff with Michelle Yeoh, the
>>Lethal Weapon gun fight finale, the stunt tearing down the billboard, etc.
>>etc....none of it worked for me at all.
>
> The backseat driver bit, I agree with you. I'm not a fan of the cell
> phone as a remote control for a car, unless it's Batman's. The
> motorcycle scene, despite being a bit too long and indulgent, I thought
> actually worked fairly well, and I'm hard pressed to complain about
> virtually any scene that had Michelle Yeoh in it, deliberately corny
> dialogue and all. The billboard escape worked for me except it's
> always bothered me that the implication is that none of Carver's goons
> apparently thought to simply run down to the ground floor and stop Bond
> and Wai Lin on their way out (they crashed through a window in the same
> building, after all!). I agree that the stunt team wrote too much of
> the script on TND, but I still thought 90+% of the movie was perfectly
> believable, if a tad contrived.
>
Much like DAD, the first half of TND is better than the first, IMHO.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #233034 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 16:22 |
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In article <JNudnWRPEr5AApDZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d [at] comcast.com>, willt65
[at] comcast.net says...
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>
> Much like DAD, the first half of TND is better than the first, IMHO.
?!?
First half better than the first?
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #233040 ] |
Di, 07 März 2006 19:04 |
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"Alan Gauton" <agauton-remove [at] postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e77b58de10e36ec989e3c [at] news.cc.strath.ac.uk...
> In article <JNudnWRPEr5AApDZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d [at] comcast.com>, willt65
> [at] comcast.net says...
>>
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>> Much like DAD, the first half of TND is better than the first, IMHO.
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> ?!?
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>
> First half better than the first?
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> --
> AG
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> Never for me the lowered banner, never the last endeavour!
> (Damon Hill - 16th June 1999)
Yes, the 1st half of DAD is better than the second, as is the same for TND.
Just my opinion, of course.
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| Re: Rewatched TB...... [message #233094 ] |
Mi, 08 März 2006 11:26 |
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In article <gOadne9IJZiFVpDZRVn-rA [at] comcast.com>, willt65 [at] comcast.net
says...
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> "Alan Gauton" <agauton-remove [at] postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e77b58de10e36ec989e3c [at] news.cc.strath.ac.uk...
> > In article <JNudnWRPEr5AApDZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d [at] comcast.com>, willt65
> > [at] comcast.net says...
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> Much like DAD, the first half of TND is better than the first, IMHO.
> >
> >
> > ?!?
> >
> >
> > First half better than the first?
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> Yes, the 1st half of DAD is better than the second, as is the same for TND.
> Just my opinion, of course.
That's what I thought you meant. "First half better than the first"
(read it again) is what threw me.
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AG
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