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Book Seven [message #231384] Fr, 10 März 2006 02:46
wadkin2000  
I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
know if I left anything out...
What James and Lily did is important to the plot
One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
We may find out about DD's London Underground scar
Ravenclaw will get their day
A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
life
Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
Wormtail's debt to Harry
Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
dragon's blood
Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live
Founders will play a part in Book 7
Identity of RAB
Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
that
Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"
Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries
Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
Sirius's mirror "no comment"
What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
We will see Victor Krum again
Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
happens in 7"
Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"

Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.
Re: Book Seven [message #231386 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 03:15
drusilla  
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com escribió:
> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> know if I left anything out...

> What James and Lily did is important to the plot

Their jobs you mean, because we know already what they did: they
defeated LV three times. And it's important because that determined
their son to be chosen by LV.

> Ravenclaw will get their day

Like Luna? I think she meant Luna, who has now survived the DE twice.

> A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> life

yeah, that's the real mystery.

> Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)

Mmm--- I think it was all about Slughorn, as he saw Lily on her son so
that helped with the memory.

> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)

I don' think we will actually see Snape's boggart. I think Jp just
didn't say it because it might be revealing. For instance, his boggart
being his mother being killed, might reveal he was loved by her...

> Sirius's mirror "no comment"

Sirius had the second mirror. Now he's gone, the mirror is supposed to
be in GP unless someone else took it (Snape? Kreacher?). Or all of those
mirrors - if they are more - are connected each other so harry can see
other people or Sirius took it with him and Harry will see his godfather
floating at the limbo.

> Founders will play a part in Book 7

The search for Hufflepuff's object....

> Identity of RAB

Duh! :)

> Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection

Hogsmeade it's the only completely wizard town in England, IICR. Yet,
Godric's Hollow, a town - she said it was - named after a wizard, it's a
place where muggles live. Interesting...

> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors

I think I might be right about this :) (Oh, my ego!). I think Dudley saw
himself being bullied by his own father: not physically but verbally.
Lots of fathers want their kids to be bullies in order to be more 'a
man': I've seen that. So, pampered or not, I guessed Dudley many times
could have been abused when don't behaving as is expected by Vernon
(considering we only see one month of his life per year, we don't know
him at all). So, Harry is going to leave the Dursleys forever but when
he realises his cousin has suffered as much as he was, he might see him
with different eyes.

> We will see Victor Krum again

Yeah, I see that happening. I hope he dates Luna.
(I actually don't but I don't want Luna to be a fifth wheel at the
Weasley-Delacour Wedding ^_^)
Re: Book Seven [message #231388 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 03:25
wadkin2000  
drusilla wrote:
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com escribi=F3:
> > I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> > of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> > any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> > know if I left anything out...
>
> > What James and Lily did is important to the plot
>
> Their jobs you mean, because we know already what they did: they
> defeated LV three times. And it's important because that determined
> their son to be chosen by LV.
>
> > Ravenclaw will get their day
>
> Like Luna? I think she meant Luna, who has now survived the DE twice.
>
> > A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> > life
>
> yeah, that's the real mystery.
>
> > Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
>
> Mmm--- I think it was all about Slughorn, as he saw Lily on her son so
> that helped with the memory.
>
> > Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>
> I don' think we will actually see Snape's boggart. I think Jp just
> didn't say it because it might be revealing. For instance, his boggart
> being his mother being killed, might reveal he was loved by her...
>
> > Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>
> Sirius had the second mirror. Now he's gone, the mirror is supposed to
> be in GP unless someone else took it (Snape? Kreacher?). Or all of those
> mirrors - if they are more - are connected each other so harry can see
> other people or Sirius took it with him and Harry will see his godfather
> floating at the limbo.
>
> > Founders will play a part in Book 7
>
> The search for Hufflepuff's object....
>
> > Identity of RAB
>
> Duh! :)
>
> > Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
>
> Hogsmeade it's the only completely wizard town in England, IICR. Yet,
> Godric's Hollow, a town - she said it was - named after a wizard, it's a
> place where muggles live. Interesting...
>
> > What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
>
> I think I might be right about this :) (Oh, my ego!). I think Dudley saw
> himself being bullied by his own father: not physically but verbally.
> Lots of fathers want their kids to be bullies in order to be more 'a
> man': I've seen that. So, pampered or not, I guessed Dudley many times
> could have been abused when don't behaving as is expected by Vernon
> (considering we only see one month of his life per year, we don't know
> him at all). So, Harry is going to leave the Dursleys forever but when
> he realises his cousin has suffered as much as he was, he might see him
> with different eyes.
>
> > We will see Victor Krum again
>
> Yeah, I see that happening. I hope he dates Luna.
> (I actually don't but I don't want Luna to be a fifth wheel at the
> Weasley-Delacour Wedding ^_^)


Good thoughts, Dru!
Re: Book Seven [message #231412 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 09:48
Toon  
On 9 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0800, wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

>Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"

No, if they're properly dead, as in even wizards magic's and potions
can't save them. What Muggles consider dead is still alive for
wizards, because of magic/potions. Now, when that fails, your death
is good and proper.
Re: Book Seven [message #231413 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 09:50
Toon  
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:15:19 -0500, drusilla <me [at] me.net> wrote:

>Hogsmeade it's the only completely wizard town in England, IICR. Yet,
>Godric's Hollow, a town - she said it was - named after a wizard, it's a
>place where muggles live. Interesting...

Maybe a village where muggles who know hang with their magical friends
and family.
Re: Book Seven [message #231430 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 13:58
Kami  
drusilla wrote:
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com escribi=F3:
> > I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> > of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> > any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> > know if I left anything out...

> > Ravenclaw will get their day
>
> Like Luna? I think she meant Luna, who has now survived the DE twice.

I think that Ravenclaw will have something to do with Rowena Ravenclaw,
as in one of her personal items being a Horcrux.

> > A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> > life
>
> yeah, that's the real mystery.

I'd like to see Arabella Figg do some magic since she kept an eye on
Harry for DD all this time, but I think it may be Filch that will be
the one as he is well placed at Hogwarts.

> > Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
>
> Mmm--- I think it was all about Slughorn, as he saw Lily on her son so
> that helped with the memory.

I wonder if it is meant to be taken literally. Perhaps Harry just sees
the world the same way that Lily did? The whole "the eyes are the
window to the soul" angle. I mean DD has stressed to Harry that love is
his strength and Lupin made it clear to him that Lily was an uncommonly
kind and compassionate witch, perhaps this is something that Harry
inherited from her and is going to use to to vanquish LV. It reminds me
of what DD told Harry after the fight at the MOM, about the room in the
Dept. of Mysteries that is always locked (OOTP, Ch. 37 -- The Lost
Prophecy, pg. 843).

> > Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>
> I don' think we will actually see Snape's boggart. I think Jp just
> didn't say it because it might be revealing. For instance, his boggart
> being his mother being killed, might reveal he was loved by her...

I wonder if it is something that would reveal that he had been a coward
(or at least made him feel like a coward) in the past, given his
reaction to Harry calling him that in HBP.

> > Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>
> Sirius had the second mirror. Now he's gone, the mirror is supposed to
> be in GP unless someone else took it (Snape? Kreacher?). Or all of those
> mirrors - if they are more - are connected each other so harry can see
> other people or Sirius took it with him and Harry will see his godfather
> floating at the limbo.

If Sirius's mirror was at 12 GP when he died, perhaps it is still
there, like Harry's mirror was just waiting to be used. If it isn't, my
money is on Mundugus Fletcher to have taken it (that and possibly the
heavy gold locket that no one could open.)

> > Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection

Maybe Godric's Hollow is a place where wizards and squibs live
alongside Muggles like the Granger's and the Creevy's who would be
aware of the wizarding world.

> > We will see Victor Krum again
>
> Yeah, I see that happening. I hope he dates Luna.
> (I actually don't but I don't want Luna to be a fifth wheel at the
> Weasley-Delacour Wedding ^_^)

I imagine Victor would be happy to have the opportunity to see Hermione
again at the wedding and it would, of course, make Ron jealous. Maybe
it will force him to step up to the plate and tell her how he feels
about her, finally. Either way, I like Victor's character and will be
glad to see him again. Maybe he will help in the quest to find the
Horcruxes; I wonder if it will have something to do with his connection
to Igor (a known DE) and if the mystery of where Durmstrang is located
will come into play. BTW, I could see Luna showing up with Neville as
her date, even though I don't see anything romantic going on between
them.
Re: Book Seven [message #231452 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 16:41
Brian  
Toon wrote:
> No, if they're properly dead, as in even wizards magic's and potions
> can't save them. What Muggles consider dead is still alive for
> wizards, because of magic/potions. Now, when that fails, your death
> is good and proper.

Can you cite a scene where this difference is highlighted? I don't
remember one offhand.

--
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Re: Book Seven [message #231463 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 18:00
tbarry22  
Toon wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0800, wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>
> No, if they're properly dead, as in even wizards magic's and potions
> can't save them. What Muggles consider dead is still alive for
> wizards, because of magic/potions. Now, when that fails, your death
> is good and proper.

How is a wizard death different from a muggle death? There is nothing
in the books that makes them different. Death is the absence of life,
no matter if you are talking about muggles or wizards.
Re: Book Seven [message #231467 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 19:33
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

>I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
>of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
>any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
>know if I left anything out...
>What James and Lily did is important to the plot
>One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
>We may find out about DD's London Underground scar
>Ravenclaw will get their day
>A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
>life
>Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
>Wormtail's debt to Harry
>Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
>dragon's blood
>Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
>Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
>Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live
>Founders will play a part in Book 7
>Identity of RAB
>Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
>overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
>that
>Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"
>Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries
>Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
>Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
>We will see Victor Krum again
>Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
>happens in 7"
>Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>
>Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
>pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
>mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
>there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.

I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:

Dumbledore¹s line ³the prophecy is significant only because you and
Voldemort choose to make it so² is a key point in Book 6.

"At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
cleared up? I don't think so.)

Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
in Book 6.

We will be seeing Mr. Weasley's car again. / Fluffy is roaming the
forbidden forest, since "anything that is dangerous is released to the
forest."

<pause>

.... because I have a few thoughts that I would like to share on the next point:

A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
restricted ­ we'll find out why!

I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.

1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
belongs to...

2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:

Dumbledore's "wisdom has isolated him ... where is his equal, where is his
confidante, where is his partner?"

IMO, they're a natural... as are...

3) Argus and Irma. They simply deserve each other.

P.S.:

2a) Talking movies, I like Maggie Smith but I have *the hots* for Julie
Christie. Could it be Albus and Rosmerta?
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231468 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 19:52
Lady Grey  
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> know if I left anything out...
> What James and Lily did is important to the plot

could that be that they thrice defied Voldemort? a fact that is
important because of the prophecy?

> One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's

i think it might be Neville

> We may find out about DD's London Underground scar

i think she may have forgotten about this -i mean what are the chances
of us finding out when DD is now dead?

> Ravenclaw will get their day

could that comment have been about Luna, a Ravenclaw taking a central
role?

> A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> life

I'll guess a squib, either Filch or Abigella...

> Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)

that could be just a way of indentifying the young Lily in Snape's
worst memory as harry's mother?

> Wormtail's debt to Harry

I'll guess that wormtail ends up sacrifising himself for harry, one way
or another

> Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
> dragon's blood

hmmm, intriguing

> Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7

that's easy, LV can't make any more horcruxes because Lily's protection
stops his soul from being ripped when he murders.

> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)

I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
DD trusted Snape so.

> Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry

maybe because DD's brother will have important role in book7?

> Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live

i'm looking forward to finding this out.

> Founders will play a part in Book 7

oooo when did she say this? have you got exact quote? or a link?

> Identity of RAB

easy, Sirius' bro.

> Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
> overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
> that

if Petunia has been evesdropping on conversations about the magical
world maybe she knows something of vital importance to harry, something
which she lets slip in book7?

> Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"

he'll be back?

> Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries

that could be just because she doesn't feel the need to shut down this
line of speculation.

> Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection

maybe that house was Godric's and has Gryffindor heirlooms? maybe LV
made a horcrux there?

> Sirius's mirror "no comment"

i had hoped this would mean Sirius will be back in some form but now
i'm thinking it's something to do with RAB.

> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors

himself being deprived of food?

> We will see Victor Krum again

maybe he'll come and offer his help to the 'chosen one'? or maybe he's
there to provide the push Ron needs to finally ask Hermy out?

> Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
> happens in 7"

yes I imagine finding out Snape was on AD's side all along after his
killing AD in book6 will be a shock for harry.

> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"

so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?

> Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
> pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
> mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
> there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.

aye, but what's the betting harry will find out about an accidental
horcrux?

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231469 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:09
Lady Grey  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> >of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> >any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> >know if I left anything out...
<snip>

> I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
> much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:
>
> Dumbledore=B9s line =B3the prophecy is significant only because you and
> Voldemort choose to make it so=B2 is a key point in Book 6.
>
> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> cleared up? I don't think so.)

isn't this because of LV's horcruxes? and AD didn't want to let on to
LV that he knows about them? also maybe because of the prohecy saying
harry is the only one that can defeat LV?

> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should

could be that harry helps dudders out by magiking the rolls of lard off
his belly.

> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
> in Book 6.
>
> We will be seeing Mr. Weasley's car again. / Fluffy is roaming the
> forbidden forest, since "anything that is dangerous is released to the
> forest."

i hope harry is still carrying that flute around...

> <pause>
>
> ... because I have a few thoughts that I would like to share on the next =
point:
>
> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
> restricted =AD we'll find out why!
>
> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>
> 1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
> Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
> put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
> OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
> visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
> belongs to...

please no

> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:
>
> Dumbledore's "wisdom has isolated him ... where is his equal, where is his
> confidante, where is his partner?"
>
> IMO, they're a natural... as are...

erm, isn't Minerva about half Albus' age?

> 3) Argus and Irma. They simply deserve each other.

Irma?

> P.S.:
>
> 2a) Talking movies, I like Maggie Smith but I have *the hots* for Julie
> Christie. Could it be Albus and Rosmerta?

again wouldn't Rosmerta be far too young for Albus? everyone we've met
so far is far too young! besides <insert Standard Answer 12
( http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.fan.harry-potter/browse _frm/thread/3f=
cec5db2f1b496d/e6111450f91667fc?q=3DStandard+Answer&rnum =3D1#e6111450f91667=
fc)>

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231470 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:12
lesliemills2002  
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> know if I left anything out...

> What James and Lily did is important to the plot

You mean how they previously defied Lord Voldemort, or what they did
for a living?

> One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's

I'm rooting for Luna.

(stuff deleted)

> Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
> dragon's blood
> Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7

I'd say the above two are related. Dumbledore probably knew more about
blood magic than Voldemort, and saw a possibly fatal flaw in
Voldemort's return.

> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)

Hmm, a pheonix, or...a shubbery? :-)

> Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
> Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live

Wild speculation: either he wanted Lily to live for his own nefarious
purposes, or he couldn't move her without killing her, and he wanted
his next death to make the horcrux.

(stuff deleted)

> Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
> overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
> that

Odd, Petunia stated (correctly for the moment) that the Dementors were
in charge of Azkaban, but IIRC, Lily died before the Dementors switched
sides.

> Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"

Perhaps Fawkes was the "pet" of Godric Gryffendor himself. Thus, any
wands made from his feathers could be considered a relic of Gryffendor,
and thus prized by a certain wizard...

> Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries

If there is, expect it to be held behind a locked door. :-)

> Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection

(stuff deleted)

> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors

Probably a life without his parents. Dumbledore stated the Dursley's
treated Dudley worse than Harry, and I agree. Their pampering has left
Dudley incapable of coping with the real world by himself. No, his
ability to punch smaller people will not let him make it as a boxer,
since his weight would place him in the category of people who do know
how to act when the going gets tough.

(stuff deleted)
> Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
> happens in 7"

Nah, he'll die in page 12. :-)

> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"

The Order of the Pheonix probably has faked a few notable deaths and
dissappearances to protect a few people (converts?). I note that
Slughorn did a relatively good job of covering his tracks.

> Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
> pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
> mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
> there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.

I'd review Voldemort's conversation with Slughorn. It looked to me
that Voldemort was talking about the number of times to split the soul,
while Slughorn was talking about soul fragments, in a rather distressed
fashion in hopes of ending the conversation.
Re: Book Seven [message #231471 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:19
Kish  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:

> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
> restricted ­ we'll find out why!
>
> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>
[...]
> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:
>
> Dumbledore's "wisdom has isolated him ... where is his equal, where is his
> confidante, where is his partner?"

And she goes on to spell out that McGonnagal doesn't qualify. There's
also the little detail of an eighty-year age difference between them. :-p
Re: Book Seven [message #231472 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:20
drusilla  
Jane Grey escribió:
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
>> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
>> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
>> know if I left anything out...
>> What James and Lily did is important to the plot
>
> could that be that they thrice defied Voldemort? a fact that is
> important because of the prophecy?
>
>> One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
>
> i think it might be Neville

I think so. Besides, Hermi goes with Ron; Harry, with Ginny. As there is
not Neville/Luna, I'd hate to see him ending all alone. AT least he
might have a chance of work in Hogwarts.

>> A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
>> life
>
> I'll guess a squib, either Filch or Abigella...

Who's abigella?

>> Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
>
> that's easy, LV can't make any more horcruxes because Lily's protection
> stops his soul from being ripped when he murders.

Really?

>> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>
> I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
> DD trusted Snape so.

I am quite sure it has something to do with his mother.

>> Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>
> i had hoped this would mean Sirius will be back in some form but now
> i'm thinking it's something to do with RAB.

I wonder if the original mirrors were from Regulus and Sirius and Sirius
'took' it from his brother to give it to James. It sounds like something
my older brother might do ;)

>> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
>
> himself being deprived of food?

>> We will see Victor Krum again
>
> maybe he'll come and offer his help to the 'chosen one'? or maybe he's
> there to provide the push Ron needs to finally ask Hermy out?

Hear my voice: he'll be paired with Luna.

>> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>
> so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
> talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?

I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
Re: Book Seven [message #231473 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:21
drusilla  
Green-Eyed Chris escribió:

> I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
> much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:
>
> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> cleared up? I don't think so.)

Hw had some ideas about the Horcruxes by them. Killing LV had - or could
have - returned him into his formless being. How significant is that, we
don't know, but I suppose is harder to catch a man who has not even a
shape.

> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
> in Book 6.

So, duddley's a wizard. His big fear is him to making magic and fearing
his parents realise, and start treating him like they treat Harry.

> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
> restricted ­ we'll find out why!

> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>
> 1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
> Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
> put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
> OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
> visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
> belongs to...

YOu make it sounds as they have some sort of honey moon!

>
> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:

It's because Miverva must be something like DD's right hadn in Hogwarts.
THey are familiar because they are worked together for almost 40 years.
Re: Book Seven [message #231474 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:27
Kish  
drusilla wrote:
> Green-Eyed Chris escribió:
>

>> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
>> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
>> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
>> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
>> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There
>> is no
>> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
>> in Book 6.
>
>
> So, duddley's a wizard.

I hope you're joking. That would definitely be, "more to Dudley than
meets the eye."
Re: Book Seven [message #231475 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 20:28
Kish  
Jane Grey wrote:

> could be that harry helps dudders out by magiking the rolls of lard off
> his belly.

Dudley's not fat since OotP.
Re: Book Seven [message #231494 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 21:58
Lady Grey  
Kish wrote:
> Jane Grey wrote:
>
> > could be that harry helps dudders out by magiking the rolls of lard off
> > his belly.
>
> Dudley's not fat since OotP.

ah so he isn't;

Dudley was as vast as ever, but a year's hard dieting and the discovery
of a new talent had wrought quite a change in his physique. As Uncle
Vernon delightedly told anyone who would listen,Dudley had recently
become the Junior Heavyweight Inter-School Boxing Champion of the
Southeast. The noble sport', as Uncle Vernon called it, had made Dudley
even more formidable than he had seemed to Harry in their primary
school days when he had served as Dudley's first punchball. Harry was
not remotely afraid of his cousin any more but he still didn't think
thatDudley learning to punch harder and more accurately was cause for
celebration. Neighbourhood children all around were terrified of him -
even more terrified than they were of 'that Potter boy' who, they had
been warned, was a hardened hooligan and attended St Brutus's Secure
Centre for Incurably Criminal Boys.
[OftP, Dudley Demented]

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231495 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 22:01
Lady Grey  
Kish wrote:
> Jane Grey wrote:
>
> > could be that harry helps dudders out by magiking the rolls of lard off
> > his belly.
>
> Dudley's not fat since OotP.

ah so he isn't;

Dudley was as vast as ever, but a year's hard dieting and the discovery
of a new talent had wrought quite a change in his physique. As Uncle
Vernon delightedly told anyone who would listen,Dudley had recently
become the Junior Heavyweight Inter-School Boxing Champion of the
Southeast. The noble sport', as Uncle Vernon called it, had made Dudley
even more formidable than he had seemed to Harry in their primary
school days when he had served as Dudley's first punchball. Harry was
not remotely afraid of his cousin any more but he still didn't think
thatDudley learning to punch harder and more accurately was cause for
celebration. Neighbourhood children all around were terrified of him -
even more terrified than they were of 'that Potter boy' who, they had
been warned, was a hardened hooligan and attended St Brutus's Secure
Centre for Incurably Criminal Boys.
[OftP, Dudley Demented]

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231500 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 23:01
wadkin2000  
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> know if I left anything out...
> What James and Lily did is important to the plot
> One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
> We may find out about DD's London Underground scar
> Ravenclaw will get their day
> A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> life
> Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
> Wormtail's debt to Harry
> Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
> dragon's blood
> Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
> Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
> Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live
> Founders will play a part in Book 7
> Identity of RAB
> Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
> overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
> that
> Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"
> Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries
> Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
> Sirius's mirror "no comment"
> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
> We will see Victor Krum again
> Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
> happens in 7"
> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>
> Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
> pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
> mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
> there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.
Oops, I forgot one: whether anyone else was at the house the night
Voldemort killed James and Lily.
Re: Book Seven [message #231515 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 01:24
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <dusjjk$4q5$2 [at] emma.aioe.org>, drusilla <me [at] me.net> wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris escribió:
>
>> I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
>> much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:
>>
>> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
>> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
>> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
>> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>
>Hw had some ideas about the Horcruxes by them. Killing LV had - or could
>have - returned him into his formless being. How significant is that, we
>don't know, but I suppose is harder to catch a man who has not even a
>shape.
>
>> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
>> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
>> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
>> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
>> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
>> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
>> in Book 6.
>
>So, duddley's a wizard. His big fear is him to making magic and fearing
>his parents realise, and start treating him like they treat Harry.

I really like that idea.

>
>> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
>> restricted ­ we'll find out why!
>
>> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>>
>> 1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
>> Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
>> put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
>> OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
>> visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
>> belongs to...
>
>YOu make it sounds as they have some sort of honey moon!

Are you kidding? They were rocking and rolling! They triggered an
earthquake in Albania that ended as a tsunami in Peru!!

>
>>
>> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
>> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
>> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:
>
>It's because Miverva must be something like DD's right hadn in Hogwarts.
>THey are familiar because they are worked together for almost 40 years.

....into the wee hours of the night... <singing: I don't care what's right
or wrong...>
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231516 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 01:24
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1142017780.543756.89390 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, "Jane
Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
>> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
>> >of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
>> >any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
>> >know if I left anything out...
><snip>
>
>> I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
>> much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:
>>
>> Dumbledore=B9s line =B3the prophecy is significant only because you and
>> Voldemort choose to make it so=B2 is a key point in Book 6.
>>
>> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
>> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
>> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
>> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>
>isn't this because of LV's horcruxes? and AD didn't want to let on to
>LV that he knows about them? also maybe because of the prohecy saying
>harry is the only one that can defeat LV?

That sounds good to me.

>
>> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
>> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
>
>could be that harry helps dudders out by magiking the rolls of lard off
>his belly.
>
>> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
>> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
>> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
>> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
>> in Book 6.
>>
>> We will be seeing Mr. Weasley's car again. / Fluffy is roaming the
>> forbidden forest, since "anything that is dangerous is released to the
>> forest."
>
>i hope harry is still carrying that flute around...
>
>> <pause>
>>
>> ... because I have a few thoughts that I would like to share on the next =
>point:
>>
>> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
>> restricted =AD we'll find out why!
>>
>> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>>
>> 1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
>> Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
>> put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
>> OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
>> visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
>> belongs to...
>
>please no
>
>> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
>> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
>> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:
>>
>> Dumbledore's "wisdom has isolated him ... where is his equal, where is his
>> confidante, where is his partner?"
>>
>> IMO, they're a natural... as are...
>
>erm, isn't Minerva about half Albus' age?

Oh good grief Jane!! You really DO still have a LOT to learn!!!

>
>> 3) Argus and Irma. They simply deserve each other.
>
>Irma?

Pince.

>
>> P.S.:
>>
>> 2a) Talking movies, I like Maggie Smith but I have *the hots* for Julie
>> Christie. Could it be Albus and Rosmerta?
>
>again wouldn't Rosmerta be far too young for Albus? everyone we've met
>so far is far too young!

Again, see above and never underestimate an old wizard's wand (or a young
witch's frustration with the newest rapid-firing model)!

> besides <insert Standard Answer 12

That's right. Minerva would be a widow and DD's legal heir.
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231525 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 03:58
wadkin2000  
drusilla wrote:
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com escribi=F3:
> > I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> > of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> > any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> > know if I left anything out...
>
> > What James and Lily did is important to the plot
>
> Their jobs you mean, because we know already what they did: they
> defeated LV three times. And it's important because that determined
> their son to be chosen by LV.
>
> > Ravenclaw will get their day
>
> Like Luna? I think she meant Luna, who has now survived the DE twice.
>
> > A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> > life
>
> yeah, that's the real mystery.
>
> > Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
>
> Mmm--- I think it was all about Slughorn, as he saw Lily on her son so
> that helped with the memory.
>
> > Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>
> I don' think we will actually see Snape's boggart. I think Jp just
> didn't say it because it might be revealing. For instance, his boggart
> being his mother being killed, might reveal he was loved by her...
>
> > Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>
> Sirius had the second mirror. Now he's gone, the mirror is supposed to
> be in GP unless someone else took it (Snape? Kreacher?). Or all of those
> mirrors - if they are more - are connected each other so harry can see
> other people or Sirius took it with him and Harry will see his godfather
> floating at the limbo.
>
> > Founders will play a part in Book 7
>
> The search for Hufflepuff's object....
>
> > Identity of RAB
>
> Duh! :)
>
> > Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
>
> Hogsmeade it's the only completely wizard town in England, IICR. Yet,
> Godric's Hollow, a town - she said it was - named after a wizard, it's a
> place where muggles live. Interesting...
>
> > What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
>
> I think I might be right about this :) (Oh, my ego!). I think Dudley saw
> himself being bullied by his own father: not physically but verbally.
> Lots of fathers want their kids to be bullies in order to be more 'a
> man': I've seen that. So, pampered or not, I guessed Dudley many times
> could have been abused when don't behaving as is expected by Vernon
> (considering we only see one month of his life per year, we don't know
> him at all). So, Harry is going to leave the Dursleys forever but when
> he realises his cousin has suffered as much as he was, he might see him
> with different eyes.
>
> > We will see Victor Krum again
>
> Yeah, I see that happening. I hope he dates Luna.
> (I actually don't but I don't want Luna to be a fifth wheel at the
> Weasley-Delacour Wedding ^_^)


Dru, I looked up the question about "what the Potters did" and here it
is:
"What did the Potters do for a living before Voldemort killed them?"
Ans: "I'm sorry to keep saying this, but I can't tell you because it's
important to a later plot. But you will find out later!" (Scholastic
online chat Feb.3,2000)
That kind of has me leaning to the "Lily & James were aurors" theory.
Re: Book Seven [message #231527 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 04:06
wadkin2000  
Jane Grey wrote:
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> > I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> > of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> > any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> > know if I left anything out...
> > What James and Lily did is important to the plot
>
> could that be that they thrice defied Voldemort? a fact that is
> important because of the prophecy?
>
> > One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
>
> i think it might be Neville
>
> > We may find out about DD's London Underground scar
>
> i think she may have forgotten about this -i mean what are the chances
> of us finding out when DD is now dead?
>
> > Ravenclaw will get their day
>
> could that comment have been about Luna, a Ravenclaw taking a central
> role?
>
> > A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> > life
>
> I'll guess a squib, either Filch or Abigella...
>
> > Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
>
> that could be just a way of indentifying the young Lily in Snape's
> worst memory as harry's mother?
>
> > Wormtail's debt to Harry
>
> I'll guess that wormtail ends up sacrifising himself for harry, one way
> or another
>
> > Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
> > dragon's blood
>
> hmmm, intriguing
>
> > Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
>
> that's easy, LV can't make any more horcruxes because Lily's protection
> stops his soul from being ripped when he murders.
>
> > Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>
> I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
> DD trusted Snape so.
>
> > Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
>
> maybe because DD's brother will have important role in book7?
>
> > Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live
>
> i'm looking forward to finding this out.
>
> > Founders will play a part in Book 7
>
> oooo when did she say this? have you got exact quote? or a link?
>
> > Identity of RAB
>
> easy, Sirius' bro.
>
> > Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
> > overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
> > that
>
> if Petunia has been evesdropping on conversations about the magical
> world maybe she knows something of vital importance to harry, something
> which she lets slip in book7?
>
> > Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"
>
> he'll be back?
>
> > Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries
>
> that could be just because she doesn't feel the need to shut down this
> line of speculation.
>
> > Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
>
> maybe that house was Godric's and has Gryffindor heirlooms? maybe LV
> made a horcrux there?
>
> > Sirius's mirror "no comment"
>
> i had hoped this would mean Sirius will be back in some form but now
> i'm thinking it's something to do with RAB.
>
> > What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
>
> himself being deprived of food?
>
> > We will see Victor Krum again
>
> maybe he'll come and offer his help to the 'chosen one'? or maybe he's
> there to provide the push Ron needs to finally ask Hermy out?
>
> > Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
> > happens in 7"
>
> yes I imagine finding out Snape was on AD's side all along after his
> killing AD in book6 will be a shock for harry.
>
> > Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>
> so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
> talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?
>
> > Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
> > pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
> > mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
> > there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.
>
> aye, but what's the betting harry will find out about an accidental
> horcrux?
>
> --
> Jane Grey


Jane, the question about the founders was from the Leaky Cauldron
interview July'05:
"How much of a role are the founders going to play in book seven?"
Ans: "Some, as you probably have guessed from the end of six."
Which, IMO, means looking for the horcrux containers.
Re: Book Seven [message #231528 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 04:10
wadkin2000  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> >of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> >any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> >know if I left anything out...
> >What James and Lily did is important to the plot
> >One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
> >We may find out about DD's London Underground scar
> >Ravenclaw will get their day
> >A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> >life
> >Harry's eyes (in relation to Lily's)
> >Wormtail's debt to Harry
> >Said she has a "very good reason" for not telling us the other uses for
> >dragon's blood
> >Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
> >Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
> >Backstory of Dumbledore and his family is a profitable line of inquiry
> >Why Voldemort gave Lily so many chances to live
> >Founders will play a part in Book 7
> >Identity of RAB
> >Petunia knows about the dementors because of a conversation she
> >overheard with Lily & "that awful boy" - Jo won't say anything more on
> >that
> >Won't say anything about Fawkes "which probably gives you a big clue"
> >Won't say if there will be a scene in the Dept. of Mysteries
> >Lily & James living in Godric's Hollow - Godric Gryffindor connection
> >Sirius's mirror "no comment"
> >What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
> >We will see Victor Krum again
> >Won't say if Snape is evil or not-will have a "huge impact on what
> >happens in 7"
> >Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
> >
> >Now, I didn't mention anything about the horcruxes because that's
> >pretty much a given that Harry has to find them (duh!) All she
> >mentioned about them was that Harry knows, or thinks he knows, that
> >there are four horcruxes that have to be destroyed.
>
> I have distilled my own list, from Madam Scoop's Summaries, which very
> much mirrors yours. I would add only the following of many possibilities:
>
> Dumbledore=B9s line =B3the prophecy is significant only because you and
> Voldemort choose to make it so=B2 is a key point in Book 6.
>
> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>
> Harry will, in the long term, get back at Dudley. / Did Harry ever use
> magic on Dudley in the real world? JKR: Not so far (hint). / "You should
> keep an eye on Dudley. It's probably too late for Aunt Petunia and Uncle
> Vernon. I feel sorry for Dudley. I might joke about him, but I feel truly
> sorry for him because I see him as just as abused as Harry." / There is no
> more to Dudley than meets the eye, and there are very few lines from him
> in Book 6.
>
> We will be seeing Mr. Weasley's car again. / Fluffy is roaming the
> forbidden forest, since "anything that is dangerous is released to the
> forest."
>
> <pause>
>
> ... because I have a few thoughts that I would like to share on the next =
point:
>
> A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but the information is
> restricted =AD we'll find out why!
>
> I can see only three credible (hetero-) pairing possibilities.
>
> 1) Rubeus and Olympe. I put them in first place because JKR has informed
> Robbie Coltrane about the development of his character. I believe that he
> put more infatuation into the GoF movie than was written in the book. In
> OotP, the two characters spent many a hot summer night together while
> visiting the giants. It is, however, just as possible that first place
> belongs to...
>
> 2) Albus and Minerva. I'm too lazy to do a search, but how many other
> female characters take the liberty of verbal intercourse with DD on a
> first name basis? Let's also not forget JKR's point that:
>
> Dumbledore's "wisdom has isolated him ... where is his equal, where is his
> confidante, where is his partner?"
>
> IMO, they're a natural... as are...
>
> 3) Argus and Irma. They simply deserve each other.
>
> P.S.:
>
> 2a) Talking movies, I like Maggie Smith but I have *the hots* for Julie
> Christie. Could it be Albus and Rosmerta?
> --
> Chris

Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
Re: Book Seven [message #231554 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 10:48
Toon  
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:41:47 -0800 (PST), brian [at] isi.edu (Brian Tung)
wrote:

>Toon wrote:
>> No, if they're properly dead, as in even wizards magic's and potions
>> can't save them. What Muggles consider dead is still alive for
>> wizards, because of magic/potions. Now, when that fails, your death
>> is good and proper.
>
>Can you cite a scene where this difference is highlighted? I don't
>remember one offhand.

It was an interview, where JK mentions Wizards can treat death more so
than Muggles. and eve Muggles have variations. Clincaly dead is
still not 100% dead.
Re: Book Seven [message #231611 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 17:36
Lady Grey  
drusilla wrote:
> Jane Grey escribi=F3:
> > wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >> I was going through some of JK's interviews and started making a list
> >> of what she either hinted or mentioned would be in Book 7 (as well as
> >> any red herrings she might have thrown to us in an interview). Let me
> >> know if I left anything out...
> >> What James and Lily did is important to the plot
> >
> > could that be that they thrice defied Voldemort? a fact that is
> > important because of the prophecy?
> >
> >> One of Harry's classmates will become a teacher at Hogwart's
> >
> > i think it might be Neville
>
> I think so. Besides, Hermi goes with Ron; Harry, with Ginny. As there is
> not Neville/Luna, I'd hate to see him ending all alone. AT least he
> might have a chance of work in Hogwarts.

and there's always Ron's cast off, Lavender

> >> A character will manage in desperate circumstances to do magic late in
> >> life
> >
> > I'll guess a squib, either Filch or Abigella...
>
> Who's abigella?

Mrs Figg

> >> Gleam of triumphant in DD's eyes is "enormously" significant to book 7
> >
> > that's easy, LV can't make any more horcruxes because Lily's protection
> > stops his soul from being ripped when he murders.
>
> Really?

because the protection stops the bearer from being harmed by Voldemort.
therefore LV can't harm himself. and AD would have been truimphant that
LV hadn't realised he wouldn't be able to make anymore horcruxes but it
would have been short-lived after remembering that LV was back and AD
hadn't got near to any other horcrux since harry got rid of the diary.

> >> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
> >
> > I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
> > DD trusted Snape so.
>
> I am quite sure it has something to do with his mother.

yeah, based on what we know (or rather our lack of knowledge in the
area) i am inclined to agree.

> >> Sirius's mirror "no comment"
> >
> > i had hoped this would mean Sirius will be back in some form but now
> > i'm thinking it's something to do with RAB.
>
> I wonder if the original mirrors were from Regulus and Sirius and Sirius
> 'took' it from his brother to give it to James. It sounds like something
> my older brother might do ;)

yeah, and mine!

> >> What Dudley saw when he faced the dementors
> >
> > himself being deprived of food?
>
> >> We will see Victor Krum again
> >
> > maybe he'll come and offer his help to the 'chosen one'? or maybe he's
> > there to provide the push Ron needs to finally ask Hermy out?
>
> Hear my voice: he'll be paired with Luna.

yeah JKR does have a habit of chucking people together randomly
(tonk&lupin -wtf?!!)

> >> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
> >
> > so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
> > talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?
>
> I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
> was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.

actually she avoided answering that question directly by reminding us
that Sirius tells harry in OftP that Regulas was dead. But AD says
there are methods of making someone appear dead. presumeably this
method would trick heritance magic as well (so that would explain why
the Black house went to Sirius if Regulus was still alive -surely their
parents wouldn't have left the house to Sirius over Regulus). I'm not
saying i think he's alive but it would be interesting if he was. it'll
be like having a (very) little bit of Sirius back, well sorta. Though i
can't imagine what he's been doing all these years... maybe pretending
to be Stubby Boardman, lead singer of popular singing group The
Hobgoblins?

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231625 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 18:08
Kish  
Jane Grey wrote:
> drusilla wrote:

>>I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
>>was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
>
>
> actually she avoided answering that question directly by reminding us
> that Sirius tells harry in OftP that Regulas was dead.

Not in the interview I read. She just said, "He's dead."
Re: Book Seven [message #231627 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 18:21
drusilla  
Jane Grey escribió:
> drusilla wrote:
>> Jane Grey escribió:


>> I think so. Besides, Hermi goes with Ron; Harry, with Ginny. As there is
>> not Neville/Luna, I'd hate to see him ending all alone. AT least he
>> might have a chance of work in Hogwarts.
>
> and there's always Ron's cast off, Lavender

So, Neville's going to inherit the infamous 'My sweetheart' necklace?


>>>> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
>>> I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
>>> DD trusted Snape so.
>> I am quite sure it has something to do with his mother.
>
> yeah, based on what we know (or rather our lack of knowledge in the
> area) i am inclined to agree.

If Eileen was in fact the one who loved Snape, and at some point she
discovered what his son had become (DE), I doubt she was happy and proud
about, enough to want to be away from him or try to stop him. If Snape
really loved his mother, he could have not done something like killing
her to get her out his way. Or could he?.

> yeah JKR does have a habit of chucking people together randomly
> (tonk&lupin -wtf?!!)

Other day I wondered about this Tonks/Lupin thing. I don't say they
don't really love/like/feel attracted/whatever/ to each other, but... I
understand that Tonks started fancying him because Lupin is, well,
fanciable :). But, what about Lupin? (at least more fanciable than
Snape). Did he has feelings for her because it's more like: 'I love you
because you love me and I doubt someone else might?' Or at least it
could have started like that.

>>>> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dead"
>>> so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
>>> talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?
>> I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
>> was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
>
> Though i
> can't imagine what he's been doing all these years... maybe pretending
> to be Stubby Boardman, lead singer of popular singing group The
> Hobgoblins?

So the guy has been all these years hiding, perhaps having a family, a
good life or having groupies while his innocent brother was in
Azkaban...?! He better comes up with a good *good GOOD* explanation...
Re: Book Seven [message #231633 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 20:06
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
>> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>

<snip>

>> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
>> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
>> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
>> cleared up? I don't think so.)

<snip>

>Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
>was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
>mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
>that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.

As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
live with your explanation until next Tuesday.

P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
most of us here realize.

Could you possibly give us something a few degrees warmer than
"wadkin2000" to call you? It sounds, to me, like HAL in *2001: A Space
Odyssey". You are obviously more than mere bits and bytes.
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231641 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 21:02
Lady Grey  
Kish wrote:
> Jane Grey wrote:
> > drusilla wrote:
>
> >>I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
> >>was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
> >
> >
> > actually she avoided answering that question directly by reminding us
> > that Sirius tells harry in OftP that Regulas was dead.
>
> Not in the interview I read. She just said, "He's dead."

Kish wrote:
> Jane Grey wrote:
> > drusilla wrote:
>
> >>I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
> >>was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
> >
> >
> > actually she avoided answering that question directly by reminding us
> > that Sirius tells harry in OftP that Regulas was dead.
>
> Not in the interview I read. She just said, "He's dead."

oh right, do you have a link? I think i was thinking of this one;

------------------------
ES: What's one question you wished to be asked and what would be the
answer to that question?

JKR: Um - [long pause] - such a good question. What do I wish I
could be asked? [Pause.] Today, just today, July the 16th, I was really
hoping someone would ask me about R.A.B., and you did it. Just today,
because I think that is - well, I hoped that people would.

MA: Is there more we should ask about him?

JKR: There are things you will deduce on further readings, I think -
well you two definitely will, for sure - that, yeah, I was really
hoping that R.A.B. would come out.

MA: Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly, but was Regulus the one
who was murdered by Voldemort -

JKR: Well Sirius said he wouldn't have been because he wasn't important
enough, remember?

MA: But that doesn't have to be true, if [R.A.B.] is writing
Voldemort a personal note.

JKR: That doesn't necessarily show that Voldemort killed him,
personally, but Sirius himself suspected that Regulus got in a little
too deep. Like Draco. He was attracted to it, but the reality of what
it meant was way too much to handle.
---------------------

from http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview3.shtml

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231643 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 21:06
Lady Grey  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
>
> <snip>
>
> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>
> <snip>
>
> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
>
> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.

wow, just how old are you? (or weren't you being literal about your
Alzheimer's)

> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I

you could change, you could be so bold as to change to 'Blue-eyed
Chris'

> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
> most of us here realize.

Catherine is great ,always ready to give anyone the kick up the
backside when they need it. Though her insistence that she likes both
Sirius and Snape /equally/, I still find very puzzling.

> Could you possibly give us something a few degrees warmer than
> "wadkin2000" to call you? It sounds, to me, like HAL in *2001: A Space
> Odyssey". You are obviously more than mere bits and bytes.

try waddykins maybe?

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231644 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 21:14
Lady Grey  
drusilla wrote:
> Jane Grey escribi=F3:
> > drusilla wrote:
> >> Jane Grey escribi=F3:
>
>
> >> I think so. Besides, Hermi goes with Ron; Harry, with Ginny. As there =
is
> >> not Neville/Luna, I'd hate to see him ending all alone. AT least he
> >> might have a chance of work in Hogwarts.
> >
> > and there's always Ron's cast off, Lavender
>
> So, Neville's going to inherit the infamous 'My sweetheart' necklace?

would Lavender be so tacky as to pass on that necklace to her next
bloke? i hope not (for Neville's sake!)

> >>>> Won't say what Snape's boggart is (would give too much away)
> >>> I guessing this will tie in with why Snape turned to DD's side and why
> >>> DD trusted Snape so.
> >> I am quite sure it has something to do with his mother.
> >
> > yeah, based on what we know (or rather our lack of knowledge in the
> > area) i am inclined to agree.
>
> If Eileen was in fact the one who loved Snape, and at some point she

can't see it being anyone else...

> discovered what his son had become (DE), I doubt she was happy and proud
> about, enough to want to be away from him or try to stop him. If Snape
> really loved his mother, he could have not done something like killing
> her to get her out his way. Or could he?.

I agree that Snape's mother could have had alot to do with his changing
over to AD's side. Maybe she was really ashamed that she had bred a DE
when she found out that her son had joined up. Maybe she stopped
talking to him and refused to speak with him again. Maybe Snape changed
sides to make his mum proud, only maybe his mum died before he had a
chance to tell her about it. maybe that's why Snape is so bitter.

> > yeah JKR does have a habit of chucking people together randomly
> > (tonk&lupin -wtf?!!)
>
> Other day I wondered about this Tonks/Lupin thing. I don't say they
> don't really love/like/feel attracted/whatever/ to each other, but... I
> understand that Tonks started fancying him because Lupin is, well,
> fanciable :). But, what about Lupin? (at least more fanciable than
> Snape). Did he has feelings for her because it's more like: 'I love you
> because you love me and I doubt someone else might?' Or at least it
> could have started like that.

mmmh that could be a good explanation of how that came about i suppose
BUT I still can't get over the fact that her dad can't be that much
older than Lupin. Do you think it's possible to work out their age
difference from the Black family tree?

> >>>> Wizards can't bring people back from the dead, "if they're truly dea=
d"
> >>> so there's someone who isn't truly dead? RAB maybe? or maybe she was
> >>> talking about why LV was able to resurrect in book4?
> >> I am starting to think RAB, if Regulus, is not dead. I know she said he
> >> was but... Prhaps he's half dead or something.
> >
> > Though i
> > can't imagine what he's been doing all these years... maybe pretending
> > to be Stubby Boardman, lead singer of popular singing group The
> > Hobgoblins?
>
> So the guy has been all these years hiding, perhaps having a family, a
> good life or having groupies while his innocent brother was in
> Azkaban...?! He better comes up with a good *good GOOD* explanation...

yes it'll be hard for JKR to reconcile his being alive all this time,
that is why i don't think it likely. I suppose though that RAB wouldn't
have known that Sirius was innocent...

--
Jane Grey
Re: Book Seven [message #231648 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 22:13
wadkin2000  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
>
> <snip>
>
> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>
> <snip>
>
> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
>
> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.
>
> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
> most of us here realize.
>
> Could you possibly give us something a few degrees warmer than
> "wadkin2000" to call you? It sounds, to me, like HAL in *2001: A Space
> Odyssey". You are obviously more than mere bits and bytes.
> --
> Chris


You mean we can't do "Wadkin 2000: A Space Odyssey Prequel"? I'll just
blip and beep my way through the group! Actually, it's Cassie.
Re: Book Seven [message #231707 ] So, 12 März 2006 14:49
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1142107578.276604.267990 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "Jane
Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
>> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
>> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
>> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
>> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
>> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
>> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
>>
>> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
>> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.
>
>wow, just how old are you? (or weren't you being literal about your
>Alzheimer's)

What the heck are you still doing around here, hijacking my intimate
posting to wadkin2000? You're supposed to be hitting those books!

When I was majoring in psychology, I volunteered for all kinds of tests
(me and the white rats fighting for the food) and got to take other tests
for free. At age 21, I was informed that I had scored a mental age of 72
years. I have taken to calling that part of me "my Alzheimer's". I am
*only* 55, but there's a good chance that "my Alzheimer's" might have
surpassed Dumbledore. (I haven't had a look at other threads, but that is
part of what I was trying to tell you about DD and Minerva.)

>
>> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
>> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
>
>you could change, you could be so bold as to change to 'Blue-eyed
>Chris'

I understand what you mean about a bold change. But there is also such a
thing as continuity. ...and my eyes actually do still have the remnants of
their original seductive serpentine green! (Nagini wouldn't dare mess with
me.)

>
>> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
>> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
>> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
>> most of us here realize.
>
>Catherine is great ,always ready to give anyone the kick up the
>backside when they need it. Though her insistence that she likes both
>Sirius and Snape /equally/, I still find very puzzling.

Her bite may be hard, but I have never seen it being personal, unless the
other party chose to make it so.
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231708 ] So, 12 März 2006 14:49
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1142111636.298990.258870 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> <snip>

<snip>

>> Could you possibly give us something a few degrees warmer than
>> "wadkin2000" to call you? It sounds, to me, like HAL in *2001: A Space
>> Odyssey". You are obviously more than mere bits and bytes.
>> --
>> Chris
>
>
>You mean we can't do "Wadkin 2000: A Space Odyssey Prequel"? I'll just
>blip and beep my way through the group! Actually, it's Cassie.

Much better. Sounds fat 'n sassy. ;-)
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231723 ] So, 12 März 2006 15:46
wadkin2000  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1142111636.298990.258870 [at] i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >>
> >> <snip>
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Could you possibly give us something a few degrees warmer than
> >> "wadkin2000" to call you? It sounds, to me, like HAL in *2001: A Space
> >> Odyssey". You are obviously more than mere bits and bytes.
> >> --
> >> Chris
> >
> >
> >You mean we can't do "Wadkin 2000: A Space Odyssey Prequel"? I'll just
> >blip and beep my way through the group! Actually, it's Cassie.
>
> Much better. Sounds fat 'n sassy. ;-)
> --
> Chris


Erm....The sassy part's ok...however,.....;-)
Re: Book Seven [message #231725 ] So, 12 März 2006 16:01
wadkin2000  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1142107578.276604.267990 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "Jane
> Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore not kill
> >> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to Voldemort is not
> >> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> >> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
> >> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
> >> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
> >> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
> >>
> >> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
> >> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.
> >
> >wow, just how old are you? (or weren't you being literal about your
> >Alzheimer's)
>
> What the heck are you still doing around here, hijacking my intimate
> posting to wadkin2000? You're supposed to be hitting those books!
>
> When I was majoring in psychology, I volunteered for all kinds of tests
> (me and the white rats fighting for the food) and got to take other tests
> for free. At age 21, I was informed that I had scored a mental age of 72
> years. I have taken to calling that part of me "my Alzheimer's". I am
> *only* 55, but there's a good chance that "my Alzheimer's" might have
> surpassed Dumbledore. (I haven't had a look at other threads, but that is
> part of what I was trying to tell you about DD and Minerva.)
>
> >
> >> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
> >> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
> >
> >you could change, you could be so bold as to change to 'Blue-eyed
> >Chris'
>
> I understand what you mean about a bold change. But there is also such a
> thing as continuity. ...and my eyes actually do still have the remnants of
> their original seductive serpentine green! (Nagini wouldn't dare mess with
> me.)
>
> >
> >> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
> >> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
> >> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
> >> most of us here realize.
> >
> >Catherine is great ,always ready to give anyone the kick up the
> >backside when they need it. Though her insistence that she likes both
> >Sirius and Snape /equally/, I still find very puzzling.
>
> Her bite may be hard, but I have never seen it being personal, unless the
> other party chose to make it so.
> --
> Chris


You'd still be a young'un compared to Dumbledore!
Re: Book Seven [message #231739 ] So, 12 März 2006 18:21
cwlNOSPAM  
In article <1142175698.070228.324530 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

>Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> In article <1142107578.276604.267990 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "Jane
>> Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> >> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
>> >> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore
not kill
>> >> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to
Voldemort is not
>> >> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
>> >> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
>> >>
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
>> >> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
>> >> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
>> >> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
>> >>
>> >> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
>> >> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.
>> >
>> >wow, just how old are you? (or weren't you being literal about your
>> >Alzheimer's)
>>
>> What the heck are you still doing around here, hijacking my intimate
>> posting to wadkin2000? You're supposed to be hitting those books!
>>
>> When I was majoring in psychology, I volunteered for all kinds of tests
>> (me and the white rats fighting for the food) and got to take other tests
>> for free. At age 21, I was informed that I had scored a mental age of 72
>> years. I have taken to calling that part of me "my Alzheimer's". I am
>> *only* 55, but there's a good chance that "my Alzheimer's" might have
>> surpassed Dumbledore. (I haven't had a look at other threads, but that is
>> part of what I was trying to tell you about DD and Minerva.)
>>
>> >
>> >> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
>> >> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
>> >
>> >you could change, you could be so bold as to change to 'Blue-eyed
>> >Chris'
>>
>> I understand what you mean about a bold change. But there is also such a
>> thing as continuity. ...and my eyes actually do still have the remnants of
>> their original seductive serpentine green! (Nagini wouldn't dare mess with
>> me.)
>>
>> >
>> >> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
>> >> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
>> >> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
>> >> most of us here realize.
>> >
>> >Catherine is great ,always ready to give anyone the kick up the
>> >backside when they need it. Though her insistence that she likes both
>> >Sirius and Snape /equally/, I still find very puzzling.
>>
>> Her bite may be hard, but I have never seen it being personal, unless the
>> other party chose to make it so.
>> --
>> Chris
>
>
>You'd still be a young'un compared to Dumbledore!

You just put a little sunshine in my overcast *Sun*day!

I recently read that certain German newspapers no longer accept contact
ads from men over 56. (I hope "contact ads" is the right term for looking
for new people in one's life.) That really got me down. Now you know why
I'm stalking the babes here. ;-)

Which reminds me, if it's not too personal, is Cassie the short form of
something? I can only think of Cassandra who was a daughter of Priam, the
king of Troy during the Trojan War (sister of Hector and Paris). She was
endowed with the gift of prophecy but fated never to be believed. That
really would be poetic!

<...or does she just wear a green uniform and have a beard like Castro?>
--
Chris
Re: Book Seven [message #231741 ] So, 12 März 2006 19:10
wadkin2000  
Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> In article <1142175698.070228.324530 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> In article <1142107578.276604.267990 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, "Jane
> >> Grey" <jane.grey [at] hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> >> In article <1142046652.975358.72710 [at] j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Green-Eyed Chris wrote:
> >> >> >> In article <1141955161.754581.4350 [at] u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> wadkin2000 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> "At the end of Book 5, in the ministry scene, why did Dumbledore
> not kill
> >> >> >> or try to kill Voldemort?" The reason Dumbledore gives to
> Voldemort is not
> >> >> >> the real reason. Dumbledore knows something else. (Or has that been
> >> >> >> cleared up? I don't think so.)
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Chris, the statement Jo made about ministry scene with DD and Voldemort
> >> >> >was said, IIRC, right after OOTP was released. IMO, I think that might
> >> >> >mean that DD had already surmised about the horcruxes from COS and knew
> >> >> >that if he tried to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't die.
> >> >>
> >> >> As indicated, my Alzheimer's got the better of me on that point. I can
> >> >> live with your explanation until next Tuesday.
> >> >
> >> >wow, just how old are you? (or weren't you being literal about your
> >> >Alzheimer's)
> >>
> >> What the heck are you still doing around here, hijacking my intimate
> >> posting to wadkin2000? You're supposed to be hitting those books!
> >>
> >> When I was majoring in psychology, I volunteered for all kinds of tests
> >> (me and the white rats fighting for the food) and got to take other tests
> >> for free. At age 21, I was informed that I had scored a mental age of 72
> >> years. I have taken to calling that part of me "my Alzheimer's". I am
> >> *only* 55, but there's a good chance that "my Alzheimer's" might have
> >> surpassed Dumbledore. (I haven't had a look at other threads, but that is
> >> part of what I was trying to tell you about DD and Minerva.)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> P.S.: I like being called "Chris", although I do sometimes wish that I had
> >> >> taken the time to reconsider "Green-Eyed Chris" before my first posting. I
> >> >
> >> >you could change, you could be so bold as to change to 'Blue-eyed
> >> >Chris'
> >>
> >> I understand what you mean about a bold change. But there is also such a
> >> thing as continuity. ...and my eyes actually do still have the remnants of
> >> their original seductive serpentine green! (Nagini wouldn't dare mess with
> >> me.)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> used to add: "(got 'em from Lily)" until I got the first of a few nips in
> >> >> my calf from Fish Eye no Miko who replied "No, you didn't." That was a
> >> >> well intended hint. I think she is much more subtle and supportive than
> >> >> most of us here realize.
> >> >
> >> >Catherine is great ,always ready to give anyone the kick up the
> >> >backside when they need it. Though her insistence that she likes both
> >> >Sirius and Snape /equally/, I still find very puzzling.
> >>
> >> Her bite may be hard, but I have never seen it being personal, unless the
> >> other party chose to make it so.
> >> --
> >> Chris
> >
> >
> >You'd still be a young'un compared to Dumbledore!
>
> You just put a little sunshine in my overcast *Sun*day!
>
> I recently read that certain German newspapers no longer accept contact
> ads from men over 56. (I hope "contact ads" is the right term for looking
> for new people in one's life.) That really got me down. Now you know why
> I'm stalking the babes here. ;-)
>
> Which reminds me, if it's not too personal, is Cassie the short form of
> something? I can only think of Cassandra who was a daughter of Priam, the
> king of Troy during the Trojan War (sister of Hector and Paris). She was
> endowed with the gift of prophecy but fated never to be believed. That
> really would be poetic!
>
> <...or does she just wear a green uniform and have a beard like Castro?>
> --
> Chris


Merlin's Beard!!! Let's see.....daughter of Priam or Castro
transvestite??? Dear, dear, too many choices!!! Actually, it is funny
that you should mention that particular Cassandra. In a pathetic
attempt to theorize that Lly could have been a seer, I did some
research and saw that there was a flower called the "Cassandra Lily".
Yeah, I know, I do have a tendency to reach sometimes! BTW, it's short
for Cassidy.
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