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To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231362] Fr, 10 März 2006 00:56
mr_hassan_chop  
Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding. Had it
not been for the pounding scene, there would have been a possibility
of winning.

Let me clarify further to be sure you understand: No film which
depicts a bare ass, accompanied by a pounding of that ass, will ever
win Best Picture.

Think about it for a moment. An elderly couple is browsing the video
store. They come across Brokeback Mountain, which sports a "Best
Picture" logo. Figuring they can't go wrong, they purchase it. The
couple gets home, sits down to watch, and twenty minutes into the film
one of them says, "Well would you look at that: an ass-pounding!"

See? The scenario would never happen. The Academy would ensure that
it never happens. Why? Because from then on, whenever the couple sees
a movie with the "Best Picture" logo, they will wonder if it contains
yet another ass-pounding. The Academy would not willingly be
associated with this particular activity.

To recap: Can a movie starring gay characters ever win Best Picture?
Of course. Can a movie starring gay characters, with pounding, ever
win Best Picture? Absolutely not.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231371 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 01:55
John VanSickle  
Standard answer #21 for alt.fan.harry-potter applies here.

Regards,
John
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231382 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 02:38
INVALID_SEE_SIG  
In the previous article, <mr_hassan_chop [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
> It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding.

I am ashamed that I am not more ashamed that I laughed at this.
--
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_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / baldwin [at] panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
***~~~~----------------------------------------------------- ------------------
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231383 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 02:43
robertchamp2002  
mr_hassan_chop [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
> It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding. Had it
> not been for the pounding scene, there would have been a possibility
> of winning.

I have no doubt that in the cowboy life homosexual activity was/is
practiced. But I don't think that "ass pounding" had much to do with
the failure of "Brokeback Mountain" to win the Best Picture Oscar.

Of course, I don't know anything about the thinking of Academy members,
but if I had to guess I would say that many "Crash" votes were cast
because of the place the Western film holds in the history of cinema
and in the hearts and imaginations of the people in this country. In
some ways, the Western is a projection of America. Cowboys are more
than iconic; they project Amercan manliness, endurance, courage and
heroism, and no one really wants to touch that. If you want to do a
parody--"Blazing Saddles," for instance--that's fine; but if you tamper
with something as basic as the sexuality of the cowboy, many people are
going to turn off and tune out.

There is a wonderful scene in John Ford's great film _The Man Who
Killed Liberty Valance_ in which the Jimmy Stewart character talks
about telling the truth about what happened in a shoot-out in which he
was involved. The editor of the newspaper disagrees and tells him,
"This is the West, and in the West you print the legend."

Despite all the attempts to "tell the truth" about the old West, that
is still the reigning idea among most Americans, and that probably
includes more than one member of the Academy..

I have no doubt that a film involving homosexuality and showing
homosexual activity could win the Best Picture Oscar. After all, the
Best Actor Oscar went to an actor who played Truman Capote, who was
never in a closet and made no bones about his sexual preference
(though, to his credit, he didn't talk in public about his private life
or his own lover). But the genre in which one introduces the theme
can't be picked willy-nilly or, as I suspect this one was, picked to
shock.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231385 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 02:57
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231387 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 03:21
Fish Eye no Miko  
robertchamp2002 [at] yahoo.com wrote:

> After all, the Best Actor Oscar went to an actor who played
> Truman Capote, who was never in a closet and made no
> bones about his sexual preference (though, to his credit, he
> didn't talk in public about his private life or his own lover).

Yeah, cuz straight people never talk about their private lives or who
they're in love with or anything, so why should gays?
And why is this in the Harry Potter newsgroup? Or an obituaries newsgroup,
for that matter...?
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231393 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 03:51
drusilla  
Fish Eye no Miko escribió:
> robertchamp2002 [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> After all, the Best Actor Oscar went to an actor who played
>> Truman Capote, who was never in a closet and made no
>> bones about his sexual preference (though, to his credit, he
>> didn't talk in public about his private life or his own lover).
>
> Yeah, cuz straight people never talk about their private lives or who
> they're in love with or anything, so why should gays?

Dear, these days, is cool to do that!
Kidding. See, there is a show here, about movies, that I completely love
(http://wwww.americatv.com.pe/cinescape). Unlike many other members of
the local entertainment, the hosts never *never* talks about his private
life. Hence, he is gay. I just roll my eyes. If he were, I couldn't care
at all, yet, it's stupid to say that, because I am not go around f+++ing
pseudo stars and talking about it, I am gay.

> And why is this in the Harry Potter newsgroup? Or an *obituaries newsgroup*,
> for that matter...?

ROTFL!
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231398 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 04:15
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231400 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 04:39
islandersa  
Harry Krause
and have no idea how "Crash" won.

That is because you are a fucking idiot.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231405 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 05:22
Alric Knebel  
mr_hassan_chop [at] yahoo.com wrote:

> Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
> It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding. Had it
> not been for the pounding scene, there would have been a possibility
> of winning.
>
> Let me clarify further to be sure you understand: No film which
> depicts a bare ass, accompanied by a pounding of that ass, will ever
> win Best Picture.

So, clearly, you did NOT see this movie.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231425 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 13:03
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231449 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 16:40
Glory2Jesus  
Brokeback? Whatever you think, you will not be able to change God's
Word regarding homosexuality and will one day have to pay the price for
not believing what God has written.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it
is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be
put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:22-27

V22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, V23 And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping
things.

V24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of
their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

V25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served
the creature more than the Creator, Who is blessed for ever. Amen.

V26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use into that which is against
nature:

V27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that
which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

V8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

V9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for
the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for
unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
for manslayers,

V10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for
menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other
thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind

SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal
hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away
my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my
heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.
http://www.armyofgod.com/Leviticus.html
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231456 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 17:11
Greg Fuller  
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:15:30 -0500, Harry Krause
<harry.krause [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>Terry del Fuego wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2006 17:43:05 -0800, The Babykiller Licking Ellsworth's
>> Asshole wrote:
>>
>>> I have no doubt that a film involving homosexuality and showing
>>> homosexual activity could win the Best Picture Oscar.
>>
>> It was called "Midnight Cowboy".
>>
>
>
>I thought "Brokeback" was a decent movie, but thought "Capote" was
>better, and have no idea how "Crash" won.


The best picture in any given year seldom wins the "Best Picture"
Oscar. While there are occasional exceptions that prove the rule,
it's foolish to expect a picture to win "Best Picture" simply because
it is the best picture. The list of great movies which failed to win
"Best Picture" is lengthy, and now "Brokeback Mountain" has been added
to it.

Greg
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231461 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 17:51
islandersa  
The bible is a collection of myths of the ancient Israelites.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231493 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 22:07
Bianca  
Alric Knebel wrote:
> mr_hassan_chop [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
>> It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding. Had it
>> not been for the pounding scene, there would have been a possibility
>> of winning.
>>
>> Let me clarify further to be sure you understand: No film which
>> depicts a bare ass, accompanied by a pounding of that ass, will ever
>> win Best Picture.
>
> So, clearly, you did NOT see this movie.

Midnight Cowboy won "Best Picture." It has both bare ass and pounding
of said ass.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231499 ] Fr, 10 März 2006 23:01
drusilla  
Bianca escribió:
> Alric Knebel wrote:
>> mr_hassan_chop [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going to win Best Picture.
>>> It could never win, for one simple reason: the ass-pounding. Had it
>>> not been for the pounding scene, there would have been a possibility
>>> of winning.
>>>
>>> Let me clarify further to be sure you understand: No film which
>>> depicts a bare ass, accompanied by a pounding of that ass, will ever
>>> win Best Picture.
>> So, clearly, you did NOT see this movie.
>
> Midnight Cowboy won "Best Picture." It has both bare ass and pounding
> of said ass.

Really? Gotta see that movie...
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231505 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 00:09
Fish Eye no Miko  
Glory2Jesus [at] ArmyofGod.com wrote:

> Brokeback? Whatever you think, you will not be able to change God's
> Word regarding homosexuality and will one day have to pay the price
> for not believing what God has written.
> Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
> it is abomination.

Matt. 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and
marry another, committeth adultery against her.

Oddly, those are JESUS' own words, but I don't see a lot of priests,
pastors and the like condemning divorce and remarriage. Heck,some of the
even (!!!) condone it by officiating the ceremonies!

> 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
> the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
> idolaters, nor adulterers,

So, people only their second marriage wont get into heaven, either (since
JESUS HIMSELF calls that adultery).

Catherine Johnson.
--
fenm at cox dot net
"When Catherine thinks you're too gay, you're too gay."
-Rob Fontenot, aka The Midnight Rambler, RATMM.
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231542 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 07:07
Bill Schenley  
> > Listen, folks. Brokeback Mountain was not going
> > to win Best Picture. It could never win, for one
> > simple reason: the ass-pounding.

> I am ashamed that I am not more ashamed that I
> laughed at this.

Well, I'm not ... And I laughed at Bill Maher tonight when he said
(paraphrased):

"Brokeback Mountain showed us all ... that it's okay to come in number
two."
Re: To those who expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture [message #231583 ] Sa, 11 März 2006 15:54
John VanSickle  
Fish Eye no Miko wrote:

> Glory2Jesus [at] ArmyofGod.com wrote:
>
>>Brokeback? Whatever you think, you will not be able to change God's
>>Word regarding homosexuality and will one day have to pay the price
>>for not believing what God has written.
>>Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind:
>>it is abomination.
>
> Matt. 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and
> marry another, committeth adultery against her.
>
> Oddly, those are JESUS' own words, but I don't see a lot of priests,
> pastors and the like condemning divorce and remarriage. Heck,some of the
> even (!!!) condone it by officiating the ceremonies!

The problem is that some religious leaders would rather have a large
congregation with lax rules than a small one that actually follows Jesus.

It's easy to fill a church building. Just don't ask the people to change.

>>1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
>>the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
>>idolaters, nor adulterers,
>
> So, people only their second marriage wont get into heaven, either (since
> JESUS HIMSELF calls that adultery).

Well, yeah.

To be honest, I suspect that the logic going on is thus:

Step 1: If Jesus taught this, then I'm going to Hell.

Step 2: Only bad people go to Hell.

Step 3: I'm not a bad person.

Step 4: Therefore, I'm not going to Hell.

Step 5: Therefore, Jesus didn't really teach this.

Understand that in an argument, steps 2 through 4 are not openly stated,
but the rationalizing runs that way; in the discussions on this
particular subject, not a single straw goes ungrasped.

This line of thinking is rampant in religious issues, and in an altered
form is rampant in social and political issues as well. Most people are
too prideful to exclude Step 3 from their thinking, and until they do
there is really no hope for persuading them.

Regards,
John
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