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Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230467] Do, 02 März 2006 13:02
DM  
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
Excerpt:

Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels

By John-Henry Westen

ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
these books."

"By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.

The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.

In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
"Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
to the devil."

At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
all bad."

North America's most prominent Harry Potter critic, Michael O'Brien, has
told LifeSiteNews.com that the movie version has significantly cleaned
up Harry's image, making it far less troublesome than the books.
----------------------------------------------

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230479 ] Do, 02 März 2006 18:10
drusilla  
DM escribió:
> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
> Excerpt:
>
> Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>
> By John-Henry Westen
>
> ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
> Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
> the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
> Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
> across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
> doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
> these books."
>
> "By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
> there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>
> The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
> that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
> in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.
>
> In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
> "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
> the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
> combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
> positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
> attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
> in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
> to the devil."

There is not such a thing like 'black' or 'white' magic, but evil and
good people.

> At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
> about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
> coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
> Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
> of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
> saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
> all bad."

Yeah! I mean, how evil are these books, aren't they? They forced kids to
read, to ask their parents questions, to make the parents want to read
them with them, to have conversations and to go to the see the movies
together like a family...! PURE EVIL!

> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!

Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
company.
(Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230487 ] Do, 02 März 2006 18:58
Jim McCauley  
"drusilla" <gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:440727f1$0$23930$6d36acad [at] titian.nntpserver.com...
> DM escribió:
>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>
> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
> company.

Amen :-) to that. After all, if all the religious kooks are heaven-bound,
how can hell be anything but heaven for the sensible?


Jim McCauley
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230497 ] Do, 02 März 2006 20:50
pooter  
drusilla [gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com] said
> DM escribió:

> > YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>
> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
> company.
> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
> there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)

But JPII was evil in every humanist sense one cares to apply and if he
wasn't just being eaten by the worms like every other dead person,
"hell" would be the most appropriate place for him.
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230513 ] Do, 02 März 2006 23:14
drusilla  
pooter escribió:
> drusilla [gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com] said
>> DM escribió:
>
>>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
>> company.
>> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
>> there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
>
> But JPII was evil in every humanist sense one cares to apply and if he
> wasn't just being eaten by the worms like every other dead person,
> "hell" would be the most appropriate place for him.

Yeah, whatever. You know, people? I am starting to get really tired of
this 'hp books are diabolic' posts. We don't go anywhere with them nor
we get any conclusion except insult each other's believes. So, I am
catholic, some other don't nor believe in God or whatever... how is that
important.
(There is any Standard Answer for that? Like, 'Yeah, yeah, we'll get you
a place in Hell'?
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230521 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 00:03
Thomas Madura  
DM wrote:
> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
> Excerpt:
>
> Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>
> By John-Henry Westen
>
> ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
> Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
> the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
> Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
> across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
> doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
> these books."
>
> "By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
> there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>
> The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
> that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
> in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.
>
> In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
> "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
> the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
> combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
> positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
> attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
> in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
> to the devil."
>
> At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
> about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
> coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
> Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
> of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
> saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
> all bad."
>
> North America's most prominent Harry Potter critic, Michael O'Brien, has
> told LifeSiteNews.com that the movie version has significantly cleaned
> up Harry's image, making it far less troublesome than the books.
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!

I - THis is just Jealousy. JKR is making more money on her fiction books
(HP series) than the Catholic church is making on its fiction (Bible).

2 - THere is no devil and there is no hell.
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230531 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 00:52
Marshall Hitch  
You guys think Wingardium Leviosa works on Internet trolls? :P
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230532 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 00:49
DM  
drusilla wrote:
> DM escribió:
>
>> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
>> Excerpt:
>>
>> Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>>
>> By John-Henry Westen
>>
>> ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
>> Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations
>> of the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
>> Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
>> across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is
>> no doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly
>> within these books."
>>
>> "By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and
>> from there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>>
>> The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who
>> recall that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went
>> misreported in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com
>> clarified the matter.
>>
>> In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth
>> said "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the
>> darkness, the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in
>> directly combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain
>> innumerable positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted
>> that the books attempt to make a false distinction between black and
>> white magic, when in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because
>> magic is always a turn to the devil."
>
>
> There is not such a thing like 'black' or 'white' magic, but evil and
> good people.
>
>> At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's
>> warnings about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New
>> York Times coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in
>> Canada's National Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily
>> News left out most of the information in the European coverage, only
>> quoting Rev. Amorth as saying that "If children can see the movie with
>> their parents, it's not all bad."
>
>
> Yeah! I mean, how evil are these books, aren't they? They forced kids to
> read, to ask their parents questions, to make the parents want to read
> them with them, to have conversations and to go to the see the movies
> together like a family...! PURE EVIL!
>
>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>
>
> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
> company.
> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
> there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)

But the real horror is, when we all go to hell, JKR will be there and
will promise another book. JKR's hell will be permanent writer's block.
Our hell will be waiting... and waiting... and waiting...

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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230553 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 02:50
BubblyBabs  
> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!

yawn
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230558 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 03:07
drusilla  
DM escribió:
> drusilla wrote:

>> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
>> company.
>> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
>> there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
>
> But the real horror is, when we all go to hell, JKR will be there and
> will promise another book. JKR's hell will be permanent writer's block.
> Our hell will be waiting... and waiting... and waiting...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230572 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 03:57
Fish Eye no Miko  
drusilla wrote:

> DM escribió:
>> drusilla wrote:
>
>>> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have
>>> good company.
>>> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if
>>> he is there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
>>
>> But the real horror is, when we all go to hell, JKR will be there
>> and will promise another book. JKR's hell will be permanent
>> writer's block. Our hell will be waiting... and waiting... and
>> waiting...
>
> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Actually, JKR's hell will be fans popping up every few minutes going, "Is
it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done
yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?"

Catherine Johnson.
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"I kill, therefore I am!"
-Barry the Chopper, _FullMetal Alchemist_.
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230591 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 09:26
helmut.p.einfalt  
Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> Actually, JKR's hell will be fans popping up every few minutes
> going, "Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it
> done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it
> done yet?"

And one guy insisting on "You didn't write that one yourself!" "You
didn't write that one yourself!" "You didn't write that one yourself!"
"You didn't write that one yourself!" ...

Helmut
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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230598 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 11:01
Toon  
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:02:19 GMT, DM <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
>Excerpt:
>
>Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>
>By John-Henry Westen
>
>ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
>Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
>the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
>Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
>across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
>doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
>these books."
>
>"By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
>there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>
>The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
>that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
>in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.
>
>In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
>"Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
>the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
>combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
>positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
>attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
>in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
>to the devil."
>
>At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
>about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
>coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
>Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
>of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
>saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
>all bad."
>
>North America's most prominent Harry Potter critic, Michael O'Brien, has
>told LifeSiteNews.com that the movie version has significantly cleaned
>up Harry's image, making it far less troublesome than the books.
>----------------------------------------------
>
>YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!

So, moron man is brainwahed by one book into bashing another. Iorny
is so wasted on him.


So, Lucifer is behind a boy who helps, does not like to kill, risks
his own life for those he barely even knows, fights abusive slavery
(Ok, he's for elf enslavement because they seem to like it. One point
Zelaot morons), and has encouraged millions of kids to read, and
exercise in the school made Quidditch games. Contrarywise, not a
single kid is known to have read it, and sworn allegiance to Lucifer,
the PRINCE of Darkness Lucifer is allegedly evil, therefore white
magic cannot be his, as white magic is good. Hence all those good
witches, like the Charmed Halloway sisters, or cartoons like Winx Club
and Magical DoReMi, whereby two 8 year olds have each willingly
assumed the pain, hurt, and sickens's of another so they'd be well.

Eitehr Lucifer's not that evil, or White Magic must be good.

Once again, given a choice between Harry Potter and The Bible, HP
wins hands down as most beneficial read. It doesn't attack other,
fictious books for not encourging people to crossover to the Dark
Side. Unlike a certain book that apprently encourges illiteracy,
iorance, ahtred, bigatry, discirmination, and the killing of Native
Americans and the matthew Shepharding of gays. Oh please, please.
Let's make sure everybody reads the Bible. Somebody different might
benefit in some fashion if we don't.

Seriously, show me one kid who read any HP Book, then ends his
rantings with Hail Satan! Any kid gone evil from reading the books.
Just one. One kid who deliberately did something to hurt another
because HP encouraged them to devote themselves to the occult and evil
ways. Doesn't have to be more than a minor injury.
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230599 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 11:08
Toon  
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:10:14 -0500, drusilla
<gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>DM escribió:
>> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
>> Excerpt:
>>
>> Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>>
>> By John-Henry Westen
>>
>> ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
>> Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
>> the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
>> Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
>> across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
>> doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
>> these books."
>>
>> "By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
>> there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>>
>> The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
>> that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
>> in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.
>>
>> In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
>> "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
>> the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
>> combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
>> positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
>> attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
>> in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
>> to the devil."
>
>There is not such a thing like 'black' or 'white' magic, but evil and
>good people.
>
>> At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
>> about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
>> coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
>> Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
>> of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
>> saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
>> all bad."
>
>Yeah! I mean, how evil are these books, aren't they? They forced kids to
>read, to ask their parents questions, to make the parents want to read
>them with them, to have conversations and to go to the see the movies
>together like a family...! PURE EVIL!
>
>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>
>Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
>company.
>(Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if he is
>there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)

Jesus is in Hell. He's Jewish (which is some sick reason for many
people, ie, no Christian, or a derivative there of), and never once
accepted himself as his own savior. He never once accepted his own
sacrifice for humanity as a way to save hismelf. He can't. He took
all of man's sins and died for them (allegedly). That means he has to
bear the full front of God's wrath, his own alleged father, and accept
that wraith's punsihment, which is Hell. He can't have been
resurrected, because that'd involve being freed from hell, whcih
invovles forgiveness, which is not possible once in Hell (and the
bible clelary says Jesus went to Hell after his death. Appereantly
for 3 days, which is a lie, as he must by default be down there) In
order for Jesus to eb freed, the rule smust allow forgiveness afetr
the fact. if so, then man cna be forgiven after the fact, and jesus
is no longer required. So, either Jesus is the alelged Messiah, and
burnign in Hell for alle ternity, or he's not, and possibly sprung,
mkaing a Savior pointless and unnecessary.

The moral of the stroy is, Judge not, lest your main man end up in
Hell for it.
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230600 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 11:09
Toon  
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:58:30 -0700, "Jim McCauley" <jematfriidotnet>
wrote:

>"drusilla" <gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:440727f1$0$23930$6d36acad [at] titian.nntpserver.com...
>> DM escribió:
>>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>>
>> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have good
>> company.
>
>Amen :-) to that. After all, if all the religious kooks are heaven-bound,
>how can hell be anything but heaven for the sensible?
>
>
>Jim McCauley
>

and have you seen the Christmans parties down there, as revealed in
South Park?
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230627 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 17:10
drusilla  
Helmut P. Einfalt escribió:
> Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>> Actually, JKR's hell will be fans popping up every few minutes
>> going, "Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it
>> done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it
>> done yet?"
>
> And one guy insisting on "You didn't write that one yourself!" "You
> didn't write that one yourself!" "You didn't write that one yourself!"
> "You didn't write that one yourself!" ...
>
> Helmut

That'd be hell for the rest of us too...
(OMG, we are in hell...)
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230643 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 21:47
John VanSickle  
Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
> drusilla wrote:
>
>
>>DM escribió:
>>
>>>drusilla wrote:
>>
>>>>Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have
>>>>good company.
>>>>(Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if
>>>>he is there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
>>>
>>>But the real horror is, when we all go to hell, JKR will be there
>>>and will promise another book. JKR's hell will be permanent
>>>writer's block. Our hell will be waiting... and waiting... and
>>>waiting...
>>
>>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
>
> Actually, JKR's hell will be fans popping up every few minutes going, "Is
> it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done
> yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?"

I always thought it would be a long line of people who misinterpret
everything she's trying to say.

Regards,
John
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230648 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 22:57
drusilla  
John VanSickle escribió:
> Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>> drusilla wrote:
>>
>>
>>> DM escribió:
>>>
>>>> drusilla wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Well, if we all are going to hell, at least I can say I'll have
>>>>> good company.
>>>>> (Didn't John Paul II read the books? Is he in hell? Because if
>>>>> he is there, then there is no much hope for the rest of us...)
>>>>
>>>> But the real horror is, when we all go to hell, JKR will be there
>>>> and will promise another book. JKR's hell will be permanent
>>>> writer's block. Our hell will be waiting... and waiting... and
>>>> waiting...
>>>
>>> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
>>
>> Actually, JKR's hell will be fans popping up every few minutes going,
>> "Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?
>> Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?"
>
> I always thought it would be a long line of people who misinterpret
> everything she's trying to say.
>

Along with fans who try to pair Harry and Hermione.
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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230772 ] Sa, 04 März 2006 21:00
mcdowella  
In article <f9BNf.48811$no3.6704 [at] tornado.southeast.rr.com>, DM
<dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> writes
>http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
>Excerpt:
>
>Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>
>By John-Henry Westen
>
>ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
>Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
>the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
>Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
>across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
>doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
>these books."
....

This sort of thing reminds me of a part of Lois McMaster Bujold's
excellent Vorkosigan series (unfortunately, I can't find the quote, and
there are a lot of books to search through). In the public view, the
hero, Miles Vorkosigan, is actually in the shadow of his Father, who
'stands astride Barrayaran history like a colossus' (think of Churchill
and Montgomery - or Eisenhower - and Attaturk or Peter the Great rolled
into one, only more so).

A journalist asks Miles what he has learned about his famous parents
from the media. His reply is something like "Don't be silly. I already
knew what my parents were like. I didn't learn a thing about them from
seeing media reports of their life. I learnt quite a lot about the
media, though."
--
A.G.McDowell
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230809 ] So, 05 März 2006 07:12
John VanSickle  
drusilla wrote:
> John VanSickle escribió:
>
>> Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, JKR's hell will be...
>>
>> I always thought it would be a long line of people who misinterpret
>> everything she's trying to say.
>
> Along with fans who try to pair Harry and Hermione.

But isn't that group a subset of the one I mentioned?

Regards,
John
Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230908 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 02:57
Jan van Aalderen  
Toon wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:10:14 -0500, drusilla
> <gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
......................
>
> Jesus is in Hell. He's Jewish (which is some sick reason for many
> people, ie, no Christian, or a derivative there of), and never once
> accepted himself as his own savior. He never once accepted his own
> sacrifice for humanity as a way to save hismelf. He can't. He took
> all of man's sins and died for them (allegedly). That means he has to
> bear the full front of God's wrath, his own alleged father, and accept
> that wraith's punsihment, which is Hell. ............

If that ain't childabuse....

..........


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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230909 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 02:59
Jan van Aalderen  
Marshall Hitch wrote:
> You guys think Wingardium Leviosa works on Internet trolls? :P
>

WL seems pointless. Rather use a diffendo on his connection.

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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230915 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 03:20
Jan van Aalderen  
Toon wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:02:19 GMT, DM <dm1498 [at] {REMOVE}gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030104.html
>> Excerpt:
>>
>> Vatican's Chief Exorcist Repeats Condemnation of Harry Potter Novels
>>
>> By John-Henry Westen
>>
>> ROME, March 1, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Vatican's chief exorcist,
>> Rev. Gabriele Amorth, is reported to have repeated his condemnations of
>> the Harry Potter novels yesterday. According to press reports, Fr.
>> Amorth, said of the books, "You start off with Harry Potter, who comes
>> across as a likeable wizard, but you end up with the Devil. There is no
>> doubt that the signature of the Prince of Darkness is clearly within
>> these books."
>>
>> "By reading Harry Potter a young child will be drawn into magic and from
>> there it is a simple step to Satanism and the Devil," he said.
>>
>> The news will come as no surprise to LifeSiteNews.com readers who recall
>> that Fr. Amorth made very similar remarks in 2002 which went misreported
>> in the North American media, until LifeSiteNews.com clarified the matter.
>>
>> In a 2002 interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Rev. Amorth said
>> "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness,
>> the devil." The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly
>> combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling's books contain innumerable
>> positive references to magic, "the satanic art". He noted that the books
>> attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when
>> in fact, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn
>> to the devil."
>>
>> At the time, however, North American coverage of Rev. Amorth's warnings
>> about Potter significantly downplayed the warnings. The New York Times
>> coverage by Melinda Henneberger, which was carried in Canada's National
>> Post, the San Francisco Chronicle and on Yahoo Daily News left out most
>> of the information in the European coverage, only quoting Rev. Amorth as
>> saying that "If children can see the movie with their parents, it's not
>> all bad."
>>
>> North America's most prominent Harry Potter critic, Michael O'Brien, has
>> told LifeSiteNews.com that the movie version has significantly cleaned
>> up Harry's image, making it far less troublesome than the books.
>> ----------------------------------------------
>>
>> YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!
>
> So, moron man is brainwahed by one book into bashing another. Iorny
> is so wasted on him.
>
>
> So, Lucifer is behind a boy who helps, does not like to kill, risks
> his own life for those he barely even knows, fights abusive slavery
> (Ok, he's for elf enslavement because they seem to like it. One point

As I understand is, HP is *not* for elf enslavement, but against setting
them free against their wish by tricks like hidden clothes. That's a
more decent attitude than that of the self-righteous HG.

> Zelaot morons), and has encouraged millions of kids to read, and

Exactly... getting millions of kids to read. Reading furthers education,
education improves thinking for oneself, which is always harmful for the
coffers of organized 'faith'. Hence, reading is a satanic skill, in the
eyes of the zealots. It's not that long ago that people were burned
alive for having a bible...

............


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Re: Harry Potter, The Prince of Darkness [message #230933 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 09:54
Randy Howser  
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:57:43 +0100, Jan van Aalderen
<reply-in-group-please [at] jva.getxs.nl> wrote:

>Toon wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:10:14 -0500, drusilla
>> <gammanormids*erasethis* [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>.....................
>>
>> Jesus is in Hell. He's Jewish (which is some sick reason for many
>> people, ie, no Christian, or a derivative there of), and never once
>> accepted himself as his own savior. He never once accepted his own
>> sacrifice for humanity as a way to save hismelf. He can't. He took
>> all of man's sins and died for them (allegedly). That means he has to
>> bear the full front of God's wrath, his own alleged father, and accept
>> that wraith's punsihment, which is Hell. ............
>
>If that ain't childabuse....
>
>.........

Isn't it? He lets his kid be crucified, killed, and the poor schlub
asks his own daddy why he had been forsaken. Thta's not parent of the
year folks. Then he actually sends his own kid to hell for 3 days,
and you know it's not the mocking of your enemies burnign there tour
type of 3 days. This is the ever ;loving father figure were raised to
believe in? The dude created Hell as punishment. That's not sane
folks.
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