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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » Thinking outside the box...
Thinking outside the box... [message #227965] Mi, 01 März 2006 01:47
phil.gerrard1  
Some of the discussion about Craig has set me thinking. Connery had
the advantage that he was pretty well unknown to the general public
when he became the first Bond. Since then, it seems to me that the
actors who've been best accepted by the public as Bond, Moore and
Brosnan, had already made their names in Bond-like roles. Lazenby,
Dalton, and now Craig never had a 'Saint' or 'Remington Steele' to
point towards as evidence that they could play the role, or at least
nothing that a lot of people had seen.

It took me five or six years from becoming a Bond fan to appreciate
what's good about Lazenby's performance in OHMSS. As for Dalton and
Craig, I'd seen Dalton as Hotspur in 'Henry IV Part I' and Craig as Guy
Crouchback in 'Sword of Honour', and from the way they approached those
parts, I was interested and excited about the idea of them playing
Bond.

Tonight I've been studying and reading up on the part of Gerald Croft
in J. B. Priestley's 'An Inspector Calls' and it struck me that an
actor who could play that role well might make a damn good Bond.
Considering Dalton and Craig, that set me thinking. Can anybody else
think of roles, other than the obvious Templar / Hannay / Drummond
types, which could convince you that an actor was right for Bond?

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227968 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 02:15
ahk  
phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com wrote:

>Some of the discussion about Craig has set me thinking. Connery had
>the advantage that he was pretty well unknown to the general public
>when he became the first Bond. Since then, it seems to me that the
>actors who've been best accepted by the public as Bond, Moore and
>Brosnan, had already made their names in Bond-like roles. . . .

A little off your point, but I cannot recall.

Moore was best known for "The Saint". He first became known to American
audiences for replacing James Garner on "Maverick" who left the show in a
dispute over money. Jack Warner decided to put Garner and other actors on
unpaid leave during a production shut down; Garner decided to enforce his
contract and ultimately broke the studio system. I digress.

Now, I know that "The Persuaders" was syndicated on American television
and ratings weren't wonderful. What about "The Saint"? Was that on a
network, or syndicated? Was it kept in production for six years due to
decent American viewership or despite it?

"Remington Steele" didn't burn up the rating charts. Was it sold in Europe
at all when it was originally on? Did Europeans know anything about
Brosnan before GE?
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227970 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 02:21
phil.gerrard1  
Adam wrote:

> "Remington Steele" didn't burn up the rating charts. Was it sold in Europe
> at all when it was originally on? Did Europeans know anything about
> Brosnan before GE?

Oh, yeah. 'Remington Steele', while maybe not a mega-hit over here in
the UK, certainly made a lot of people think that Brosnan was the heir
apparent. IIRC Dalton got quite a bit of 'second-choice' flak from UK
tabloids when the Brosnan deal fell through.

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227984 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 06:31
JHause  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> Adam wrote:
>
> > "Remington Steele" didn't burn up the rating charts. Was it sold in Europe
> > at all when it was originally on? Did Europeans know anything about
> > Brosnan before GE?
>
> Oh, yeah. 'Remington Steele', while maybe not a mega-hit over here in
> the UK, certainly made a lot of people think that Brosnan was the heir
> apparent. IIRC Dalton got quite a bit of 'second-choice' flak from UK
> tabloids when the Brosnan deal fell through.
>
> Best
>
> Phil

The funny thing is I just read John Glen's book and nobody wanted
Brosnan in 84 because he looked way too young. They were looking at Sam
Neil and an Australian named Finlay Light, or something. They finally
convinced Cubby, who didn't want Brosnan at all, to pay for a
screentest and he relented, then decided he could do it based on that.
But when the Remington Steele renewal flared up Cubby dropped him. They
all then met with Dalton, then hired him without a screentest.
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227985 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 06:32
JHause  
Oops. '86, I meant. For TLD. He also confirms it was Dalton that turned
down EON for DAF. (At least that's his recollection.)
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227986 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 06:51
WQ  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> Some of the discussion about Craig has set me thinking. Connery had
> the advantage that he was pretty well unknown to the general public
> when he became the first Bond. Since then, it seems to me that the
> actors who've been best accepted by the public as Bond, Moore and
> Brosnan, had already made their names in Bond-like roles. Lazenby,
> Dalton, and now Craig never had a 'Saint' or 'Remington Steele' to
> point towards as evidence that they could play the role, or at least
> nothing that a lot of people had seen.
>
> It took me five or six years from becoming a Bond fan to appreciate
> what's good about Lazenby's performance in OHMSS. As for Dalton and
> Craig, I'd seen Dalton as Hotspur in 'Henry IV Part I' and Craig as Guy
> Crouchback in 'Sword of Honour', and from the way they approached those
> parts, I was interested and excited about the idea of them playing
> Bond.
>
> Tonight I've been studying and reading up on the part of Gerald Croft
> in J. B. Priestley's 'An Inspector Calls' and it struck me that an
> actor who could play that role well might make a damn good Bond.
> Considering Dalton and Craig, that set me thinking. Can anybody else
> think of roles, other than the obvious Templar / Hannay / Drummond
> types, which could convince you that an actor was right for Bond?
>

--- I`m sure there were at least several for me going back a couple of
decades, but I can`t even come up with their names offhand. If they
shared anything in common, it`s probably that they were bit players and
haven`t been seen much or their careers went nowhere. But the two most
recent ones are names I`ve dropped before: Clive Owen, from having seen
him in BMW`s The Hire filmettes, especially in the one titled Ticker,
where to me he came across as most Bondian in his own terse way, and
the fleeting glimpse I`ve had of Mark Dymond in DAD. I`d still have to
see more of him before given him a full two thumbs up, though. So,
Owen is about the only one that comes readily to mind.

> Best
>
> Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #227988 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 08:16
Garmt de Vries  
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:15:37 +0100, Adam H. Kerman <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote:

> "Remington Steele" didn't burn up the rating charts. Was it sold in
> Europe
> at all when it was originally on? Did Europeans know anything about
> Brosnan before GE?

We had seen him as Phileas Fogg in "Around the World in 80 Days" (1989).
Being a big Jules Verne fan and a bit of a purist when it comes to film
versions of his books, I had my doubts about such a young Fogg. But after
one episode, I was sold. I never thought of him as James Bond, but when it
was announced that Brosnan would be the next Bond, I was thrilled. And I
must say, he hasn't let me down.

--
Garmt de Vries
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #228016 ] Mi, 01 März 2006 20:11
James Hunter  
"JHause" <JHause [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1141191075.488080.144120 [at] p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> > Adam wrote:
> >
> > > "Remington Steele" didn't burn up the rating charts. Was it sold in
Europe
> > > at all when it was originally on? Did Europeans know anything about
> > > Brosnan before GE?
> >
> > Oh, yeah. 'Remington Steele', while maybe not a mega-hit over here in
> > the UK, certainly made a lot of people think that Brosnan was the heir
> > apparent. IIRC Dalton got quite a bit of 'second-choice' flak from UK
> > tabloids when the Brosnan deal fell through.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Phil
>
> The funny thing is I just read John Glen's book and nobody wanted
> Brosnan in 84 because he looked way too young. They were looking at Sam
> Neil and an Australian named Finlay Light, or something. They finally
> convinced Cubby, who didn't want Brosnan at all, to pay for a
> screentest and he relented, then decided he could do it based on that.
> But when the Remington Steele renewal flared up Cubby dropped him. They
> all then met with Dalton, then hired him without a screentest.
>

It's also in "When the Snow Melts," Cubby's autobiography. I don't have the
book in front of me right now, but if I recall correctly there were two
camps at Eon: Cubby who wanted an unknown (this is where the name "Findlay
Light" comes up, but Cubby was looking at Lambert Wilson) and Wilson and
Glen who favored Sam Neil. Brosnan didn't seem to figure - until the studio
had its say. Cubby then mentions his reservations about Brosnan, later
describing the choice of Brosnan as "the best compromise at the time," or
something to that effect. Not exactly a ringing endorsement - and yet I
think that it's possible he was covering for Dalton, not wanting to give the
impression that Dalton (by then a good family friend) had been an also-ran
until he was elevated to the "oh well" second choice winner.

Thanks!
James
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #228050 ] Do, 02 März 2006 02:33
phil.gerrard1  
James wrote:

> It's also in "When the Snow Melts," Cubby's autobiography. I don't have the
> book in front of me right now, but if I recall correctly there were two
> camps at Eon: Cubby who wanted an unknown (this is where the name "Findlay
> Light" comes up, but Cubby was looking at Lambert Wilson) and Wilson and
> Glen who favored Sam Neil. Brosnan didn't seem to figure - until the studio
> had its say. Cubby then mentions his reservations about Brosnan, later
> describing the choice of Brosnan as "the best compromise at the time," or
> something to that effect. Not exactly a ringing endorsement - and yet I
> think that it's possible he was covering for Dalton, not wanting to give the
> impression that Dalton (by then a good family friend) had been an also-ran
> until he was elevated to the "oh well" second choice winner.

Thanks for the info: I've been trying to get hold of 'When the Snow
Melts' for a little while without much luck, so this is welcome.

This begs a question: how many of the Bonds so far *were* the first
choice, and furthermore whose first choice were they?

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #228051 ] Do, 02 März 2006 02:33
JHause  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> James wrote:
>
> > It's also in "When the Snow Melts," Cubby's autobiography. I don't have the
> > book in front of me right now, but if I recall correctly there were two
> > camps at Eon: Cubby who wanted an unknown (this is where the name "Findlay
> > Light" comes up, but Cubby was looking at Lambert Wilson) and Wilson and
> > Glen who favored Sam Neil. Brosnan didn't seem to figure - until the studio
> > had its say. Cubby then mentions his reservations about Brosnan, later
> > describing the choice of Brosnan as "the best compromise at the time," or
> > something to that effect. Not exactly a ringing endorsement - and yet I
> > think that it's possible he was covering for Dalton, not wanting to give the
> > impression that Dalton (by then a good family friend) had been an also-ran
> > until he was elevated to the "oh well" second choice winner.
>
> Thanks for the info: I've been trying to get hold of 'When the Snow
> Melts' for a little while without much luck, so this is welcome.
>
> This begs a question: how many of the Bonds so far *were* the first
> choice, and furthermore whose first choice were they?
>
> Best
>
> Phil

I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby? Who
knows with Craig. Maybe Brosnan the second time in '94, but I was told
they asked Mel Gibson first.
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232367 ] Do, 02 März 2006 11:54
phil.gerrard1  
JHause wrote:

> I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby?

Maybe not: after all, didn't Timothy Dalton turn down OHMSS on the
grounds that he was too young to play Bond?

> Who
> knows with Craig. Maybe Brosnan the second time in '94, but I was told
> they asked Mel Gibson first.

Brosnan (in the '90s) is probably the closest to a first choice that
EON/MGM/UA ever had. Connery was a *long* way down their list and got
the part because bigger stars were reluctant to commit to a
multi-picture deal, Moore wouldn't have been Bond if Connery could have
been tempted back, the events which led to Dalton getting the role have
been well-documented, and it's going to be years before we know what
really happened with Craig.

That's no reflection on any of those actors, of course, and many of
EON's preferred candidates have been questionable choices, to say the
least (Finlay Light? John Gavin? James Brolin?). I'm just thankful
that we were spared Adam West.

Rolling Stones, 'Let It Bleed', side 2, track 4. Know what I mean? :-)

Best

Phil

(All too aware that the concept of an album having 'sides' may be lost
on anybody under 25...)
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232368 ] Do, 02 März 2006 12:29
phil.gerrard1  
JHause wrote:

> They were looking at Sam
> Neil and an Australian named Finlay Light, or something.

As I typed the name 'Finlay Light' in my most recent post, I found
myself wondering how I'd never heard of the guy except in connection
with Bond. An IMDB search comes up blank. A Google search reveals
that apart from the mentions he receives on Bond-related websites,
there are no photos, no mention of an acting or modelling career,
nothing. It seems hugely implausible to me that a guy could have come
to Cubby's attention and been considered for the role of Bond without
being heard of before or since.

So, where did the 'Finlay Light' story originate? If it was with EON,
is it possible that they made up the name to throw journalists off the
scent? Did the guy ever exist?

Apologies if this has been discussed before, and for bringing up what's
ultimately a piece of trivia. I'm just intrigued as to how these
stories start and spread.

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232369 ] Do, 02 März 2006 12:41
booby  
I think Cubby Broccoli had distinct ideas how Bond should look on
screen, this could be why he favoured Dalton more than Sam Neil. I
don't know what Finlay Light looked like, but he was a male model (if I
recall) so it's possible he had more of a classic Bond look than Neill.
On the subject of Broccoli not wanting Brosnan, I was always under the
impression he did want him. The 'story' goes Broccoli first saw Brosnan
during the making of For Your Eyes Only (Brosnan's late wife played the
Countess) and he said "If that guy can act he's our man" (or words to
that effect).

My guess is Broccoli wanted Dalton or Brosnan to replace Moore, and
that the choice would be determined by the actors' availability. If
Brosnan were unavailable, Dalton would be Bond and vice versa. It's
well documented that Dalton was asked to play Bond in OHMSS and
declined. Broccoli wanted Dalton since the late 1960s so he wasn't a
second choice behind Brosnan. That media span that line but it was
incorrect.

Based on Cubby Broccoli's vision of Bond, it's doubtful he would have
cast Daniel Craig. I think he would have thought his look was less
conventional, but you never know. Had Broccoli seen Craig do a
convincing screentest, perhaps he would have considered him. It's
possible.

LLC
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232378 ] Do, 02 März 2006 17:19
James Hunter  
"JHause" <JHause [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1141265698.606322.312750 [at] e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> > James wrote:
> >
> > > It's also in "When the Snow Melts," Cubby's autobiography. I don't
have the
> > > book in front of me right now, but if I recall correctly there were
two
> > > camps at Eon: Cubby who wanted an unknown (this is where the name
"Findlay
> > > Light" comes up, but Cubby was looking at Lambert Wilson) and Wilson
and
> > > Glen who favored Sam Neil. Brosnan didn't seem to figure - until the
studio
> > > had its say. Cubby then mentions his reservations about Brosnan,
later
> > > describing the choice of Brosnan as "the best compromise at the time,"
or
> > > something to that effect. Not exactly a ringing endorsement - and yet
I
> > > think that it's possible he was covering for Dalton, not wanting to
give the
> > > impression that Dalton (by then a good family friend) had been an
also-ran
> > > until he was elevated to the "oh well" second choice winner.
> >
> > Thanks for the info: I've been trying to get hold of 'When the Snow
> > Melts' for a little while without much luck, so this is welcome.
> >
> > This begs a question: how many of the Bonds so far *were* the first
> > choice, and furthermore whose first choice were they?
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Phil
>
> I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby? Who
> knows with Craig. Maybe Brosnan the second time in '94, but I was told
> they asked Mel Gibson first.
>

I think Cubby described the "Mel Gibson as Bond" episode as something Joel
Silver pitched to MGM in the early '90s when he was interested in doing a
Bond film, and that's all. (You know, if this thread keeps up, I'll have to
dig out my copy of Cubby's book.)

As for Phil's question, I think Jeff is right: no one was the first choice,
necessarily, but then again we'll probably never know what really was
discussed in the office while Eon was looking for a new Bond. The
impression we seem to have is that Lazenby "led the pack" of Connery
replacements and Craig was the unknown favorite among the Brosnan
replacements. Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan were all not first
choices, or at least never had the chance to be a first choice in all the
confusion/activity/mix-up of sorting through who would be the next actor to
play Bond.

Of related interest - or what is interesting to me - is the way that Eon
seems often to have returned to previous favorites when they needed a new
Bond actor. Moore was chosen about ten years after being considered at the
beginning of the series; Dalton was chosen years after being considered
twice, by all accounts (post-Connery and post-FYEO); and Brosnan was chosen
about eight years after the "Remington Steele" fiasco. If this pattern
holds up, then if we look at the possible contenders for CR we may be able
to spot the post-Craig Bond even now....

Thanks!
James
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232379 ] Do, 02 März 2006 17:50
Mac  
James Hunter wrote:

>> I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby?
>> Who knows with Craig. Maybe Brosnan the second time in '94, but I
>> was told they asked Mel Gibson first.
>>
>
> I think Cubby described the "Mel Gibson as Bond" episode as something
> Joel Silver pitched to MGM in the early '90s when he was interested
> in doing a Bond film, and that's all. (You know, if this thread
> keeps up, I'll have to dig out my copy of Cubby's book.)

Gibson was rejected by Cubby back in the 80s when Jerry Weintraub
suggested him. He was never considered again. It was actually
Gibson who said he would consider Bond if it was given to "better
creative people" at around the time buddy Joel Silver was pitching
Warners with the idea of backing his purchase of the Bond property
when EON were sounding out potential buyers (something EON
later denied).
--
--Mac

James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability of
£53,116,760 in a garden shed.
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232380 ] Do, 02 März 2006 17:54
WQ  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> JHause wrote:
>
> > I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby?
>
> Maybe not: after all, didn't Timothy Dalton turn down OHMSS on the
> grounds that he was too young to play Bond?
>
> > Who
> > knows with Craig. Maybe Brosnan the second time in '94, but I was told
> > they asked Mel Gibson first.
>
> Brosnan (in the '90s) is probably the closest to a first choice that
> EON/MGM/UA ever had. Connery was a *long* way down their list and got
> the part because bigger stars were reluctant to commit to a
> multi-picture deal, Moore wouldn't have been Bond if Connery could have
> been tempted back, the events which led to Dalton getting the role have
> been well-documented, and it's going to be years before we know what
> really happened with Craig.

--- Where exactly I read this I'm not sure, it was ages ago, but
apparently after Cubby and Saltzman had their meeting with Connery,
during which Connery was being a bit billigerant and I believe making
outrageous demands [the nerve of a nobody actor at the time!], Cubby
walked off to his office window and happened to see Connery on the
street below run through the traffic, at which point it just all
clicked for Cubby and he said rather decisively to Saltzman, "That's
our man." Or words to that effect. There was something to the way
Connery ran, almost panther-like, through the traffic that seemed to
make Cubby see Bond in him. Sometimes decisions are made on something
as mundane or ridiculous as that. Now, if I can only remember the
source of that bit of detail... Perhaps you can confirm?


>
> That's no reflection on any of those actors, of course, and many of
> EON's preferred candidates have been questionable choices, to say the
> least (Finlay Light? John Gavin? James Brolin?). I'm just thankful
> that we were spared Adam West.
>
> Rolling Stones, 'Let It Bleed', side 2, track 4. Know what I mean? :-)
>
> Best
>
> Phil
>
> (All too aware that the concept of an album having 'sides' may be lost
> on anybody under 25...)
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232382 ] Do, 02 März 2006 18:13
phil.gerrard1  
WQ wrote:

> --- Where exactly I read this I'm not sure, it was ages ago, but
> apparently after Cubby and Saltzman had their meeting with Connery,
> during which Connery was being a bit billigerant and I believe making
> outrageous demands [the nerve of a nobody actor at the time!], Cubby
> walked off to his office window and happened to see Connery on the
> street below run through the traffic, at which point it just all
> clicked for Cubby and he said rather decisively to Saltzman, "That's
> our man." Or words to that effect. There was something to the way
> Connery ran, almost panther-like, through the traffic that seemed to
> make Cubby see Bond in him. Sometimes decisions are made on something
> as mundane or ridiculous as that. Now, if I can only remember the
> source of that bit of detail... Perhaps you can confirm?

The incident was recounted (and, more dubiously, 'reconstructed') in a
Channel 4 documentary about Connery which was first shown about a year
and a half ago. I'm not sure who original source of the story is.

Just as an aside, by many accounts the pantherlike movement wasn't
something Connery was born with, but was instead the result of
intensive tuition with Yat Malmgren, principal of Drama Centre London.
Many people rightly credit Terence Young with adding the touches of
finesse which turned Connery into Bond, but Malmgren did a lot of the
preparatory work.

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232383 ] Do, 02 März 2006 18:22
Mac  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:

> JHause wrote:
>
>> I don't think they've EVER had a first choice, have they? Lazenby?
>
> Maybe not: after all, didn't Timothy Dalton turn down OHMSS on the
> grounds that he was too young to play Bond?

He was interviewed, but I'm not sure he was offered the role; there
seems to be some revisionist history there. Cubby's book (pg 281)
states that Dalton met twice with Cubby in 1980 and Dalton felt
he was too young at *that* time!

Cubby also states the Dalton *did* test (reluctantly), with two scenes
from ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE in 1987.
--
--Mac

"Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone, and
over half of them live in London?"
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232384 ] Do, 02 März 2006 18:22
Mac  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:

> As I typed the name 'Finlay Light' in my most recent post, I found
> myself wondering how I'd never heard of the guy except in connection
> with Bond. An IMDB search comes up blank. A Google search reveals
> that apart from the mentions he receives on Bond-related websites,
> there are no photos, no mention of an acting or modelling career,
> nothing. It seems hugely implausible to me that a guy could have come
> to Cubby's attention and been considered for the role of Bond without
> being heard of before or since.
>
> So, where did the 'Finlay Light' story originate? If it was with EON,
> is it possible that they made up the name to throw journalists off the
> scent? Did the guy ever exist?
>
> Apologies if this has been discussed before, and for bringing up
> what's ultimately a piece of trivia. I'm just intrigued as to how
> these stories start and spread.

I don't think it is that implausible that Light was tested or interviewed
given that George Lazenby had a similar background. There have
been literally hundreds of actors (known and "unknown") that have
been looked at over the years with some candidates being real
head-scratchers.
--
--Mac

"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability of
tears on THE APPRENTICE"
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232387 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 01:29
phil.gerrard1  
Mac wrote:

> He was interviewed, but I'm not sure he was offered the role; there
> seems to be some revisionist history there. Cubby's book (pg 281)
> states that Dalton met twice with Cubby in 1980 and Dalton felt
> he was too young at *that* time!
>
> Cubby also states the Dalton *did* test (reluctantly), with two scenes
> from ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE in 1987.

Hmm. I guess my admiration for Dalton's Bond may have made me a little
too hasty to accept the version of events described by Dana Broccoli in
the TLD documentary. Maybe Greedo didn't shoot first after all...

> "Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone, and
> over half of them live in London?"

This is, in fact, a wild guess, because I can't find the phrase
anywhere on the web, but could that be from 'The Hidden Tiger'?

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232388 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 01:42
phil.gerrard1  
Mac wrote:

> I don't think it is that implausible that Light was tested or interviewed
> given that George Lazenby had a similar background. There have
> been literally hundreds of actors (known and "unknown") that have
> been looked at over the years with some candidates being real
> head-scratchers.

Oh, sure, but what I find odd is that there's no reference to anybody
named 'Finlay Light' having appeared in any films, plays, or TV shows
anywhere on the web. If he was simply a male model, that might *just*
make sense, but even the least-known actors I've come across have
racked up at least one credit which I've been able to Google
successfully. (All Lazenby's rivals for OHMSS - head-scratchers to a
man - receive credit for at least one or two appearances elsewhere.)
Having said that, I've never seen the original Daily Mail article which
I believe named Light as a contender, so I'm probably not fully au fait
with the facts of the case.

Best

Phil
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232389 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 03:17
Rhino  
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:22:21 -0000, "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net>
wrote:

>"Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone, and
>over half of them live in London?"

They should have put the kittens in bandages. They'd have sold twice
as many calendars!!
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232400 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 08:06
Mac  
Rhino wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:22:21 -0000, "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone,
>> and over half of them live in London?"
>
> They should have put the kittens in bandages. They'd have sold twice
> as many calendars!!

Please don't interrupt, I haven't finished yet.
--
--Mac

"Vargas does not drink...does not smoke...does not make love.
What do you do, Vargas?"

"Vargas doesn't know the price either..."
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232402 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 08:31
Mac  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:

>> "Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone,
>> and over half of them live in London?"
>
> This is, in fact, a wild guess, because I can't find the phrase
> anywhere on the web, but could that be from 'The Hidden Tiger'?

No, not Mrs. Peel, Mrs. Ara.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/apprentice/

--
--Mac

"Vargas does not drink...does not smoke...does not make love.
What do you do, Vargas?"

"Vargas wants to be left in his world."
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232403 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 10:41
Rhino  
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:06:47 -0000, "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net>
wrote:

>Rhino wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:22:21 -0000, "Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Did you know that there are six million cat owners in the UK alone,
>>> and over half of them live in London?"
>>
>> They should have put the kittens in bandages. They'd have sold twice
>> as many calendars!!
>
>Please don't interrupt, I haven't finished yet.

It was the talk of the ECB yesterday (Executive Coffee Break). I
didn't actually watch it but it sounded cringe-worthy.
Re: Thinking outside the box... [message #232415 ] Fr, 03 März 2006 18:48
Mac  
Rhino wrote:

> It was the talk of the ECB yesterday (Executive Coffee Break). I
> didn't actually watch it but it sounded cringe-worthy.

I love it! It's the only show of its ilk I watch.
--
--Mac

"James Bond. You appear with the tedious inevitability of
a 'Sylvester McCoy was shit' argument at a DOCTOR WHO
fan group."
Vorheriges Thema:Daniel Craig is 38 tomorrow
Nächstes Thema:'Okay, okay.... I won't sign up for a second film! I was just kidding.'
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