| My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227931] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 16:52 |
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GF
TB
TSWLM
TLD
GE
Tony Borgosano
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"I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence."
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227938 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 17:50 |
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Tony Borgosano wrote:
> GF
> TB
> TSWLM
> TLD
> GE
>
--- I'm not sure I can put them in a favorite order, but the five would
be:
FRWL [great tension]
GF [just plain cool]
TB ["JB" dead, fight with a cross-dresser, taking off in a jet pack,
water-hosing the baddies with the Aston Martin's tail pipes - what more
could you want?]
TSWLM [more skiing stuff as Bond escapes, but the flight off the
mountain cliff and his prolonged descent culminating in the parachute
opening up to reveal the Brit colors is classic]
MR [neat sky diving and fighting shots but minus Jaws crashing through
the circus top]
OP [just a plain, well-done intro with Bond managing to make it through
the hangar in his jet before the closing doors crush him]
TLD [still the best intro of the last two decades, nifty fight stuff in
the jeep, cool music]
Oops, that 7. Oh well.
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227941 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 18:03 |
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Tony wrote:
> GF
> TB
> TSWLM
> TLD
> GE
In no particular order: GF, FRWL, GE, TLD, TSWLM.
Hm. I have a feeling there are going to be some mighty similar lists
turning up here. There are a few opening sequences which have been
pretty widely criticised on this list (AVTAK, FYEO) and others which
are just so bland or expository that I can't imagine anyone including
them as favourite sequences in their own right (LTK, YOLT). You might
have found one aspect of the Bond films where there's something of a
consensus among us. I'll be interested to see if the results bear this
hunch out...
Best
Phil
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227942 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 18:27 |
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phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
>Tony wrote:
>>GF
>>TB
>>TSWLM
>>TLD
>>GE
>In no particular order: GF, FRWL, GE, TLD, TSWLM.
>Hm. I have a feeling there are going to be some mighty similar lists
>turning up here.
I'll have to agree with you and WQ on most of the choices. However, I'm
going to be a contrarian and say that I don't like the opening of GF and
found it to be one of the movie's few weak parts.
>There are a few opening sequences which have been pretty widely
>criticised on this list (AVTAK, FYEO)
The stuff that comes after the titles in AVTAK is somewhat weak too.
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227946 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 20:00 |
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"Tony Borgosano" <tony50 [at] lycos.com> wrote in message
news:xk_Mf.7563$z82.1215 [at] fed1read07...
> GF
> TB
> TSWLM
> TLD
> GE
>
> Tony Borgosano
> --
> "I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence."
>
>
GF
TB
TLD
TSWLM
OHMSS
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227947 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 20:05 |
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"Tony Borgosano" <tony50 [at] lycos.com> wrote in message
news:xk_Mf.7563$z82.1215 [at] fed1read07...
> GF
> TB
> TSWLM
> TLD
> GE
>
> Tony Borgosano
> --
> "I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence."
>
>
GE got too ridiculous at the end, with PB somehow gliding alongside the
plane and getting inside
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227949 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 20:21 |
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"Will" <willt65 [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xIedneGibPhkA5nZ4p2dnA [at] comcast.com...
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> "Tony Borgosano" <tony50 [at] lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:xk_Mf.7563$z82.1215 [at] fed1read07...
> > GF
> > TB
> > TSWLM
> > TLD
> > GE
> >
> > Tony Borgosano
> > --
> > "I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence."
> >
> >
>
> GE got too ridiculous at the end, with PB somehow gliding alongside the
> plane and getting inside
OHMSS also got ridiculous with Diana Rigg fainting in 6 inches of water.
Tony Borgosano
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227951 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 20:55 |
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"Tony Borgosano" <tony50 [at] lycos.com> wrote in message
news:Ao1Nf.7576$z82.7337 [at] fed1read07...
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> "Will" <willt65 [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:xIedneGibPhkA5nZ4p2dnA [at] comcast.com...
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>> "Tony Borgosano" <tony50 [at] lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:xk_Mf.7563$z82.1215 [at] fed1read07...
>> > GF
>> > TB
>> > TSWLM
>> > TLD
>> > GE
>> >
>> > Tony Borgosano
>> > --
>> > "I hope we're going to have some gratuitous sex and violence."
>> >
>> >
>>
>> GE got too ridiculous at the end, with PB somehow gliding alongside the
>> plane and getting inside
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> OHMSS also got ridiculous with Diana Rigg fainting in 6 inches of water.
>
> Tony Borgosano
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>
she was suicidal at that point and not particularly of sound mind
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227954 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 21:28 |
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Let's see... In no particular order (I'd have a hard time ranking them
to that much detail):
TLD (TD's intro as 007 was pretty spectactular)
TSWLM (Skiing off the cliff with the Union Jack 'chute; the one time
having Bond show the colors was more than acceptable)
GF (So Bond, so Connery.)
LTK (Bond goes fishing, and catches a very big fish...)
TND (Infiltrating the terrorist bazaar and stealing the jet was
excellent)
Honorable mention:
TWINE (The escape from the banker's office and the boat chase are
guilty pleasures of mine, too bad it had to have a rather boring
middle)
FRWL (Not really Bond, but made for nice shock value at the time)
OP (lose the ending at the gas station and I can forgive the FX used to
simulate the acrojet flying through the hanger)
Draugnar
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227956 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 21:49 |
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:52:43 +0100, Tony Borgosano <tony50 [at] lycos.com>
wrote:
> GF
> TB
> TSWLM
> TLD
> GE
>
> Tony Borgosano
In chronological order:
GF (shocking... absolutely shocking)
TSWLM (great, that silence when Bond falls off the cliff)
MR (excellent stunt work, but it's a shame about those silly moments)
TLD (rather down to earth, but so thrilling)
TWINE (also because a big piece of plot is already going on)
--
Garmt de Vries
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227959 ] |
Di, 28 Februar 2006 22:54 |
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"Draugnar" <Draugnar [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141158520.065844.79360 [at] i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Let's see... In no particular order (I'd have a hard time ranking them
> to that much detail):
>
> TLD (TD's intro as 007 was pretty spectactular)
> TSWLM (Skiing off the cliff with the Union Jack 'chute; the one time
> having Bond show the colors was more than acceptable)
> GF (So Bond, so Connery.)
> LTK (Bond goes fishing, and catches a very big fish...)
> TND (Infiltrating the terrorist bazaar and stealing the jet was
> excellent)
>
> Honorable mention:
> TWINE (The escape from the banker's office and the boat chase are
> guilty pleasures of mine, too bad it had to have a rather boring
> middle)
> FRWL (Not really Bond, but made for nice shock value at the time)
> OP (lose the ending at the gas station and I can forgive the FX used to
> simulate the acrojet flying through the hanger)
>
> Draugnar
>
honorable mention for me:
FRWL - very suspenseful
MR - aside from Jaws, great stunt
OP - lots of fun
TWINE - overly long, but still fun
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227975 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 04:19 |
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Phil wrote:
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> ... and others which are just so bland or
> expository that I can't imagine anyone including them as
> favourite sequences in their own right (LTK, YOLT)
>
Phil, Phil, Phil.... I love the YOLT pre-credit
sequence. What's not to love? The scene with the space
capsule being captured by the SPECTRE ship is brilliant.
John Barry's haunting score really sets the mood here, and
the shadow falling across the space capsule -- as the
SPECTRE ship closes down on it -- and the poor space-walking
astronaut's life-line getting cut off -- wow, this is really
great stuff. If this scene doesn't grab your interest --
and imagine how much more powerful it would have been back
in 1967! -- then I don't know what would. And then we
witness the apparent assassination of 007 -- right before
our eyes! -- wow, talk about a one-two punch.
My 5 favorite opening sequences would be:
OHMSS
YOLT
TMWTGG
MR
TB
And my 5 least favorite opening sequences would be:
LTK
TWINE
TLD
GE
TND
Surprisingly -- or not, really -- I see a lot of praise for
the teaser of TLD but I honestly fail to see what people
like so much about it. Yeah, it introduces Dalton -- I get
that. But as an opening sequence, it's rather mediocre in
my view.
--Mike
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227979 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 05:17 |
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"Mike Feeney" <moonraker79 [at] excite.comPLICATE> wrote in message
news:4405c91e.6c4.41 [at] news2...
> Phil wrote:
>>
>> ... and others which are just so bland or
>> expository that I can't imagine anyone including them as
>> favourite sequences in their own right (LTK, YOLT)
>>
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> Phil, Phil, Phil.... I love the YOLT pre-credit
> sequence. What's not to love? The scene with the space
> capsule being captured by the SPECTRE ship is brilliant.
> John Barry's haunting score really sets the mood here, and
> the shadow falling across the space capsule -- as the
> SPECTRE ship closes down on it -- and the poor space-walking
> astronaut's life-line getting cut off -- wow, this is really
> great stuff. If this scene doesn't grab your interest --
> and imagine how much more powerful it would have been back
> in 1967! -- then I don't know what would. And then we
> witness the apparent assassination of 007 -- right before
> our eyes! -- wow, talk about a one-two punch.
>
> My 5 favorite opening sequences would be:
>
> OHMSS
> YOLT
> TMWTGG
> MR
> TB
>
> And my 5 least favorite opening sequences would be:
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> LTK
> TWINE
> TLD
> GE
> TND
>
> Surprisingly -- or not, really -- I see a lot of praise for
> the teaser of TLD but I honestly fail to see what people
> like so much about it. Yeah, it introduces Dalton -- I get
> that. But as an opening sequence, it's rather mediocre in
> my view.
>
> --Mike
Well, Mike, I don't think it's fair to criticize anyone's list until you
take TMWTGG off yours, lol
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227981 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 06:22 |
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Dr NO (Bond's Intro, anyway)
FRWL
TLD
GF
OHMSS
With reservations:
GoldenEye (skydiving effects look dated, but the bungee jump's cool)
FYEO ("stainless steel delicatessen???")
YOLT (bad effects, but love the music)
TSWLM (too many overtones of YOLT)
And CR (here's hoping, anyway)
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #227996 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 12:01 |
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Mike wrote:
> Phil, Phil, Phil.... I love the YOLT pre-credit
> sequence. What's not to love? The scene with the space
> capsule being captured by the SPECTRE ship is brilliant.
> John Barry's haunting score really sets the mood here, and
> the shadow falling across the space capsule -- as the
> SPECTRE ship closes down on it -- and the poor space-walking
> astronaut's life-line getting cut off -- wow, this is really
> great stuff. If this scene doesn't grab your interest --
> and imagine how much more powerful it would have been back
> in 1967! -- then I don't know what would. And then we
> witness the apparent assassination of 007 -- right before
> our eyes! -- wow, talk about a one-two punch.
Oh, I love Barry's score and always have. The outer space stuff,
however, is somewhat diluted for me by the fact that the same sequence
is repeated later in the film, making the PCS far less of a unique,
stand-alone piece, and by the fact that the effects aren't at all
impressive, even for the era in which the film was made. As for Bond's
'assassination', it's not something which would fool anybody who'd seen
other Bond films - you just know that either it's a double or it's a
fake, so there really isn't any suspense or surprise involved. Since
the basic idea of Bond appearing to be killed had already been used at
the beginning of FRWL, that marks the YOLT PCS down yet further,
because I feel that the PCS is one part of a Bond film where you really
do need to see things you haven't seen before. In addition, Connery's
first appearance is an awful warning about how he's going to sleepwalk
his way through much of the film: he looks as if he's about to yawn in
the girl's face.
Nah, it's a bottom five PCS for me. If it's any consolation, I dig
most of the MR PCS (up to the point where Jaws breaks his ripcord).
Best
Phil
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228022 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 21:51 |
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I like DAD's opening "saved by the bell" sequence. Lot's of action,
exploding stuff and it broke the rule that the opening sequences should
have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228025 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 22:21 |
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Ian wrote:
> I like DAD's opening "saved by the bell" sequence. Lot's of action,
> exploding stuff and it broke the rule that the opening sequences should
> have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
What rule? The PCS for FRWL, YOLT, DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM, MR, OP,
AVTAK, TLD, LTK, GE, TND, and TWINE all relate directly to the rest of
the movie.
==
"My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done, such as
drinking Dom Perignon '53 above a temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit.
That's as bad as posting to alt.fan.james-bond without a cool signature
file."
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228029 ] |
Mi, 01 März 2006 22:33 |
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It just seemed like a rule.
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228039 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 00:49 |
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Paul wrote:
> What rule? The PCS for FRWL, YOLT, DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM, MR, OP,
> AVTAK, TLD, LTK, GE, TND, and TWINE all relate directly to the rest of the movie.
It's probably my memory playing up again, but what's the connection in
OP? In any case, you're right about the 'stand-alone' PCS being the
exception rather than the rule.
Best
Phil
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228041 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 00:57 |
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"Ian" <ianberg [at] gmail.com> said:
>I like DAD's opening "saved by the bell" sequence. Lot's of action,
>exploding stuff and it broke the rule that the opening sequences should
>have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
I'm not sure I follow you. Many, if not most, of the opening sequences
have been directly tied into the rest of the film. Or am I
misunderstanding your meaning?
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228044 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 01:54 |
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"Ian" <ianberg [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I like DAD's opening "saved by the bell" sequence. Lot's of action,
> exploding stuff and it broke the rule that the opening sequences should
> have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
>
I think you may have missed a few Bond movies along the way.....
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #228045 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 01:56 |
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"Ian" <ianberg [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It just seemed like a rule.
>
Nahhh, run out to the video store and rent a couple others, you'll see :-)
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #232361 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 04:38 |
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Hmmm. I thought the fact that Grant was practicing to kill Bond broke that
rule. Or maybe YOLT with the first capsule being stolen and Bond's fake
death so he can go back to work and spy on Blofeld's operation. Or maybe
ALL of the PCS to TWINE which actually SETS UP the plot of the movie...
That is only a rule to the casual fan who doesn't know "Shaken not Stirred"
from "Stirred not Shaken" or "Stirred and Shaken"
Draugnar
"Ian" <ianberg [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I like DAD's opening "saved by the bell" sequence. Lot's of action,
> exploding stuff and it broke the rule that the opening sequences should
> have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
>
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #232371 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 15:28 |
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phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> It's probably my memory playing up again, but what's the connection in
> OP?
The 00 agent who bursts through the doors, falls to the floor dead, and
a Faberge egg rolls from his hand...
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #232373 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 15:34 |
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Paul Clarke wrote:
> > It's probably my memory playing up again, but what's the connection in
> > OP?
>
> The 00 agent who bursts through the doors, falls to the floor dead, and
> a Faberge egg rolls from his hand...
My memory really is playing tricks on me. For some reason I'd somehow
misremembered that as being the first scene *after* the credits.
Best
Phil
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #232374 ] |
Do, 02 März 2006 15:33 |
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"Ian" <ianberg [at] gmail.com> wrote
>the rule that the opening sequences should
> have nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
Which is a complete myth, up there with Bogie saying "Play it again Sam" as
a catchphrase...
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| Re: My Top 5 Opening Sequences [message #232468 ] |
So, 05 März 2006 08:36 |
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On 2 Mar 2006 06:34:30 -0800, "phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com"
<phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Paul Clarke wrote:
>
>> > It's probably my memory playing up again, but what's the connection in
>> > OP?
>>
>> The 00 agent who bursts through the doors, falls to the floor dead, and
>> a Faberge egg rolls from his hand...
>
>My memory really is playing tricks on me. For some reason I'd somehow
>misremembered that as being the first scene *after* the credits.
Nah, your memory is the one that's NOT playing tricks. But PC is
right that most of the movies have at least *some* connection to the
PCS.
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