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00-Poll [message #227479]

Mi, 22 Februar 2006 21:19

Min L Shaw

Regulars, lurkers, whomever stumbles across this thread:

The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale." So, I
decided to start a poll, partly to get us talkin' to each other in good
spirits, and party because it's been a while since anyone has run one
of these things through the NG.

1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
title).

2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

5) Rank the following:
*The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
favorite.
*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).
*Moore's seven Eon films.
*Brosnan's four Eon films.
*Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
favorite to least personal favorite.

8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
"I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
the intensity of your feelings.

And, because I believe in fairness, here are my answers:
1) I first encountered Bond on video, though I honestly can't say what
my first one was. I remember renting them all, three at a time. I'm
wanting to say my first three included FRWL, TMWTGG and GF.

2) GoldenEye.

3) I have read the first nine. Since Fleming is not likely to write
any more Bond thrillers, I have restricted myself to one novel per
year, so that I still have one to look forward to annually.

4) I've only read Benson's works, where I've read them all (short
stories and adaptations included). I started with his because I met
him at a Chicago Comic-Con right after Zero Minus Ten hit paperback and
he was kind enough to provide me a copy, complete with personalized
signature. I've been a fan of his since.

5)
*Actors: Brosnan, Dalton, Connery, Moore, Lazenby (though Moore is the
one I respect most as a human being, what with his UNICEF work).
*FRWL, GF, TB, DN, YOLT, NSNA, DAF
*TSWLM, FYEO, TMWTGG, AVTAK, OP, LALD, Cannonball Run, MR
*GE, TWINE, TND, DAD
*GE, FRWL, OHMSS, GF, TLD

6) TMWTGG, GE, GF, YOLT, AVTAK

7) FRWL, EON, GE, TND, 007 Racing; I own the others, but haven't gotten
around to playing them yet.

8) My interest in CR is about a 7. I admit I'd be more stoked if
Pierce was back as Bond, but I don't think Craig "cost" my interest
level any. I'll likely become more excited the closer we get to
November.

Re: 00-Poll [message #227485 ]

Mi, 22 Februar 2006 22:54

Min L Shaw wrote:
> Regulars, lurkers, whomever stumbles across this thread:
>
> The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
> headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
> thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale." So, I
> decided to start a poll, partly to get us talkin' to each other in good
> spirits, and party because it's been a while since anyone has run one
> of these things through the NG.
>
> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).

--- Movie: FRWL

> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

--- FRWL

> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

--- All

> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

--- Markham's [Kingsley Amis] Colonel Sun, Gardner's License Renewed; 4
1/2 Bensons - don't know if I'll ever finish Never Dream of Dying or
get around to The Man with the Red Tattoo.

> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.

--- Connery, Lazenby, Dalton, Moore, Brosnan

> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

--- FRWL, GF, OHMSS, TB, DN, NSNA

> *Moore's seven Eon films.

--- TSWLM, FYEO, MR, OP, LALD, TMWTGG, AVTAK

> *Brosnan's four Eon films.

--- GE, TWINE, TND, DAD

> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

--- Repeated once again: FRWL, GF, OHMSS, TB, DN.

> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

--- It was quite a while back for this one, but I think I had GF, TB,
GE, YOLT and DAF, and probably in that order. But with the
instrumental themes included, DAF and YOLT would be replaced by FRWL
and OHMSS coming in 1st and 2nd, respectively.

> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.

--- Zero games played.

> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
> 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
> "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
> movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
> the intensity of your feelings.

--- -10 to 10 meaning there's a midway 0 in between the minus and plus
side scores, right? Try as I may to be a neutral 0, I think I lean
toward a -3 or -4, largely due to the perceived miscasting issues and
the often Bond-inept Purvis & Wade having written the original CR
script.

Re: 00-Poll [message #227529 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 08:18

Garmt de Vries

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:19:00 +0100, Min L Shaw <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
> headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
> thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale."

I think it's a shame that this website is taken so seriously (just this
morning I heard it discussed on the radio as if it represented the view of
"Bond fans" in general), when the makers are too cowardly to put their
names on the site, or to admit that their opinion is just that -- their
personal opinion.

Of course, I wasn't pleased when I heard that Brosnan was out, but I just
accept that what's done is done, and I'm willing to give Craig a fair
chance. I couldn't care less about the colour of his eyes or hair, as long
as he gives a decent performance.

> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).

Goldfinger, on TV. I was about twelve, and a Dutch TV channel started
airing all the movies in random order. I think I was lucky to start with
GF.

> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

GE.

> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

All. Plus the short stories, except "007 in New York", which is terribly
hard to find.

> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

Colonel Sun, Scorpius, Zero Minus Ten, Brokenclaw.

> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.

Tough question. Especially with Lazenby, I'm not sure if I like him as an
actor, or rather the movie he starred in. Connery is still the original
Bond for me, he seems the most confident and ruthless of them all. I like
Dalton's serious approach, and appreciate the way he handled the character
(reading the books as soon as he heard he got the part!). Brosnan had his
serious moments, but also some small laughs, like when he reinflates his
car's tyres in TND. Good job. Moore is at the bottom of the list because
he laughed his way out of tricky situations just a bit too often. Plus the
double-takes. This is not to say he didn't do well as Bond, there are some
great sequences with Moore.

1. Connery
2. Dalton
3. Brosnan
4. Lazenby
5. Moore

> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

FRWL, GF, TB, DN, YOLT, NSNA, DAF

> *Moore's seven Eon films.

FYEO, TSWLM, OP, MR, TMWTGG, LALD, AVTAK

> *Brosnan's four Eon films.

DAD part 1, TWINE, GE, TND, DAD part 2 :)

> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

OHMSS, FRWL, GF, FYEO, TLD

> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

There are three songs that truly capture the 007 feeling. Two of them are
by Shirley Bassey.

1. Goldfinger
2. Diamonds
3. Russia
4. For your eyes only
5. Goldeneye

Honourable mention goes to TWINE. The first time I heard it, I thought it
was rubbish, but it has grown on me, and now I like it a lot better than
AVTAK, TLD, All Time High et al. While DAD kind of works in the film, I
don't like the song on its own.

Too bad OHMSS isn't a song.

> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.

-

> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
> 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
> "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
> movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
> the intensity of your feelings.

5. I always look forward to a new Bond film, whether with Brosnan or with
Craig. It's a pity there's so much (negative) media attention, kind of
spoils the fun and the expectation. But really, it's been too long since
DAD. I wish they could go back to one film a year!

Thanks for an interesting poll!

BTW, it's getting harder and harder to read this newsgroup without running
across spoilers. In fact, I don't even want to know if there is a Le
Chiffre or whether he's the main villain. I don't want to know that a
Sudanese rebel is involved. I don't want to know the locations Bond goes
to. I want to be surprised when I see the film! Last time, I knew in
advance that Bond was going to be captured in North Korea. With TWINE, I
knew that Elektra couldn't be trusted completely (although I didn't know
exactly why). I hope this time I'll be able to go to the cinema without
knowing any such thing...

--
Garmt de Vries

Re: 00-Poll [message #227569 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 18:38

Hemlock0013

1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
title).
---Read LALD in my early teens.

2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:
---TLD

3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.
---All except TSWLM

4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).
---Some Gardners and Bensons. Loved Amis.

5) Rank the following:
*The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
favorite.
---Dalton, Lazenby, Connery/Brosnan (tie), Moore

*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).
---DN, GF, FRWL, TB, YOLT, DAF

*Moore's seven Eon films.
---FYEO, OP, TSWLM, LALD, TMWTGG, AVTAK, MR

*Brosnan's four Eon films.
---TWINE, GE, TND, DAD

*Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).
---DN, OHMSS, TLD, TWINE, GF

6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:
---TWINE, GF, TLD (really!), LALD, DAD

7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
favorite to least personal favorite.
---Don't play video games

8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to

10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
"I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
the intensity of your feelings.
---9

----Hemlock0013

Re: 00-Poll [message #227573 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 19:02

JHause

Hemlock0013 wrote:
> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).
> ---Read LALD in my early teens.
>
> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:
> ---TLD
>
> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.
> ---All except TSWLM
>
> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).
> ---Some Gardners and Bensons. Loved Amis.
>
> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.
> ---Dalton, Lazenby, Connery/Brosnan (tie), Moore
>
> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).
> ---DN, GF, FRWL, TB, YOLT, DAF
>
> *Moore's seven Eon films.
> ---FYEO, OP, TSWLM, LALD, TMWTGG, AVTAK, MR
>
> *Brosnan's four Eon films.
> ---TWINE, GE, TND, DAD
>
> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).
> ---DN, OHMSS, TLD, TWINE, GF
>
> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:
> ---TWINE, GF, TLD (really!), LALD, DAD
>
> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.
> ---Don't play video games
>
> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
>
> 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
> "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
> movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
> the intensity of your feelings.
> ---9
>
> ----Hemlock0013

Man, that's nice to see a fan Dalton generated. The assumption is
always that Dalton was a concession to the old-time fans who wanted
more Fleming, and didn't generate any new fans. It's nice to see
Fleming still worked on the young 'uns... Personally I was one of the
old-time Fleming lovers, and was never happier than when discussing
Dalton's projects. The friggin' salad days for Bond purists -- no
boycotts because the actor wasn't pretty enough!

Re: 00-Poll [message #227596 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:34

Draugnar

Re: 00-Poll [message #227598 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:52

Draugnar

"Garmt de Vries" <garmtdevries [at] googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:op.s5ezxtw5jsw2os [at] nautilus...
>> *Brosnan's four Eon films.
>
> DAD part 1, TWINE, GE, TND, DAD part 2 :)

I'm with ya regarding the DAD part on and two, but as I ranked it as one
film, it fell last (part 2 was just too bad to make up for the good in part
1).

Draugnar

Re: 00-Poll [message #227601 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 21:10

Hemlock0013

My journey to Bond fandom is odd... I'm in my mid-30s, but had nothing
to do with Bond until my early teens, when I read LALD. I had not seen
any of the movies at that point. I enjoyed the book and soon read began
reading the whole series. I did not actually see any of the movies
until I had read about half of the novels. Then I began renting the
movies on video more or less in order (though I think the first one I
saw was AVTAK...the horror!). It wasn't until TLD that I got to see
Bond on the Big Screen. Perhaps because of the fact I was a Fleming fan
first and foremost, I was (and still am) blown away by Dalton's
performance. Oddly, I've always found Connery a bit overrated... just
didn't fit my image of Bond like Dalton or even Lazenby did. I suspect
the way I came to the series impacted my judgements. And yes, I look
forward to Daniel Craig.
---Hemlock 0013

Re: 00-Poll [message #227603 ]

Do, 23 Februar 2006 21:32

Ian

1) My first Bond experience was FYEO. It was on television one night
and I was captivated by the skiing/bobsled sequence.

2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was: GE.

3) I have read _3_ of Ian Fleming's original novels: CR, MR, LALD

4) I have read _0_ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

5) Rank the following:
*The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
favorite.
Connery, Dalton, Moore, Brosnan, Lazenby

*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).
YOLT, FRWL, GF, TB, DN, DAF, NSNA

*Moore's seven Eon films.
TSWLM, FYEO, AVTAK, MR, O, TMWTGG, LALD

*Brosnan's four Eon films.
DAD, GE, TND, TWINE

*Dalton's two films
TLD, LTK

*Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

FRWL, YOLT, TLD, TSWLM, DAD

6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:
OHMSS, GF, TSWLM, TND, AVTAK

7) I have not played the EA Bond games

8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is +3. I'm interested
in
seeing how well or poor it is with Daniel Craig as James Bond. My
favourite Bond is and always will be Connery so it's impossible for
any actor today to supersede him except maybe Ewan MacGregor.

Re: 00-Poll [message #227653 ]

Fr, 24 Februar 2006 06:43

dgates

On 22 Feb 2006 12:19:00 -0800, "Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

>Regulars, lurkers, whomever stumbles across this thread:
>
>The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
>headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
>thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale"...

I've got to say, you should really replace the word "some" with
"twenty or thirty." I don't think most of the world cares. If the
trailer looks good, or they hear some good buzz, they'll see it.

Re: 00-Poll [message #227667 ]

Fr, 24 Februar 2006 12:57

Sean Black

In article <1140639540.076218.102460 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Min
L Shaw <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> writes
>Regulars, lurkers, whomever stumbles across this thread:
>
>The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
>headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
>thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale." So, I
>decided to start a poll, partly to get us talkin' to each other in good
>spirits, and party because it's been a while since anyone has run one
>of these things through the NG.
>
>1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
>title).
>
Movie FRWL/DAF double bill

>2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

Technically FRW as that was on first
>
>3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.
>
All
>4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).
>
Just Colonel Sun

>5) Rank the following:
>*The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
>favorite.
>
Connery, Brosnan, Dalton, Moore, Lazenby

>*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

FRWL, Goldfinger, Thunderball, Dr No, DAF, YOLT, NSNA

>*Moore's seven Eon films.

TSWLM, FYEO, LALD, Moonraker, MWTGG, Octopussy, AVTAK

>*Brosnan's four Eon films.

Goldeneye, DAD, TWINE, TND

>*Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
>NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

FRWL, GF, OHMSS, TSWLM, Goldeneye
>
>6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:
>
LALD, Goldfinger, TND, YOLT, LTK

>7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
>favorite to least personal favorite.

EON, FRWL (might have been first had I had the chance to finish it), the
other one, the name I can't remember, Nightfall or something?
>
>8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
>10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
>"I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
>movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
>the intensity of your feelings.
>
10, always look forward to a new Bond, moreso when there's been a longer
than usual gap, perfectly willing to give DC the benefit of the doubt
until I actually see it.

--
Sean Black

Re: 00-Poll [message #227751 ]

Sa, 25 Februar 2006 13:50

Tom Zielinski

"Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140639540.076218.102460 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Regulars, lurkers, whomever stumbles across this thread:
>
> The fact that the "craignotbond.com" boycott has made international
> headlines seems to cement the fact that at least some of us are not
> thrilled about what we've heard concerning "Casino Royale." So, I
> decided to start a poll, partly to get us talkin' to each other in good
> spirits, and party because it's been a while since anyone has run one
> of these things through the NG.
>
> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).

Movie. Either "Goldfinger" or "Thunderball." (Don't recall.)

> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

Either "Goldfinger" or "Thunderball." (Don't recall.)

> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

All, multiple times.

> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

Amis' great "Colonel Sun."

Four of Gardner's novels.

All of Raymond Benson's stuff.

> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.

Sean Connery
Pierce Brosnan
Timothy Dalton
George Lazenby
Roger Moore

> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

"From Russia With Love"
"Goldfinger"
"Thunderball"
"Dr. No"
"You Only Live Twice"
"Never Say Never Again"
"Diamonds Are Forever"

> *Moore's seven Eon films.

"For Your Eyes Only"
"The Spy Who Loved Me"
"Live and Let Die"
"The Man With The Golden Gun"
"Octopussy"
"Moonraker"
"A View To A Kill"

> *Brosnan's four Eon films.

"Die Another Day"
"The World Is Not Enough"
"GoldenEye"
"Tomorrow Never Dies"

> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

"From Russia With Love"
"Goldfinger"
"Thunderball"
"On Her Majesty's Secret Service"
"Dr. No"
(6) - HONOURABLE MENTION - "Die Another Day"

> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

"On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (Main Title)
"Diamonds are Forever"
"Goldfinger"
"Thunderball"
"Licence to Kill"

> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.

Tinkered briefly on my son's "GoldenEye" game. (They both still say it is
one of the best 1st person perspective games ever, setting the standard for
those type of games today.) I have scant knowledge of any of the subsequent
(don't even know how many there are), though I am aware that Connery
provided voice-over for the latest.

> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
> 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
> "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
> movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
> the intensity of your feelings.

Nine (+9)
While I won't recruit friends necessarilly (I believe strongly that the film
will be a financial success, thank you very much), the tone, story, Fleming
influence, and casting have me more than intrigued. I was extremely
disappointed when I first learned that Pierce Brosnan would not be
returning, but Daniel Craig is a great choice if indeed this film is to be
more dark.

If EON had to go this way, they are doing it in the proper manner. Balls to
the wall.

Virtually everything I know about the new direction, I like. After I've
seen the film, I'm anticipating providing strong word-of-mouth.

Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that Christian Slater would have been a pretty good Felix Leiter ..."

Re: 00-Poll [message #227752 ]

Sa, 25 Februar 2006 13:59

Tom Zielinski

>> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).
>
> Amis' great "Colonel Sun."
>
> Four of Gardner's novels.
>
> All of Raymond Benson's stuff.

I stupidly forgot to include Christopher Wood's EXCELLENT novelizations.

A relativley unsung hero of the literary character.

Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that Wood's literary "Jaws" character was very well done and really creepy
...."

Re: 00-Poll [message #227760 ]

Sa, 25 Februar 2006 18:53

phil.gerrard1

Sorry it's taken me so long to get around to this, Min -

Min wrote:

> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).

Book, DN, borrowed from a local library when I was about 11. One of
the few my dad didn't have, so then I went on to read all of his,
including 'Colonel Sun'. I think I was 80% of the way through the
Fleming canon before I saw my first Bond movie.

> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

FYEO. Read in combination with the above, that gives away my age, huh?

> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

All, quite a few times.

> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

All: Markham/Amis, Pearson (OK, that may not count), Wood, Gardner,
Benson. Unlike the Fleming books, however I don't own copies of all of
these: some were borrowed, some I got rid of or gave away.

> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.

Dalton
Connery
Brosnan
Lazenby
Moore

The first three could shift positions according to my whim. There
isn't much to choose between them.

> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

Favourite first: FRWL, TB, GF, DN, TOLT, DAF. TB has gone up a long
way in my estimation over recent years.

> *Moore's seven Eon films.

FYEO, TSWLM, OP, LALD, TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK. I had to work backwards on
that one, starting from AVTAK being my nomination for nadir of the
series. I think that may say something about how I feel about a lot of
the Moore era. Sorry, Rog.

> *Brosnan's four Eon films.

TWINE, GE, TND, DAD. The first two I like more on repeated viewings,
the last two *slightly* less.

Hey, I wanted to rank Lazenby's!!!

> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

FRWL, TB, OHMSS, TLD, TWINE. Wow, for once that's consistent!

> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

OHMSS, YOLT, DAF, GF, FRWL. This was a struggle because although I
*love* Barry's scores, the songs themselves aren't really my type of
music. That probably explains why an instrumental heads the list, and
why I'd really like CR to have an instrumental theme.

> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.

Everything or Nothing, Nightfire. Not really in order. I'm a dabbler,
not a hardcore gamer, so wouldn't feel qualified to judge.

> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
> 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
> "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
> movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
> the intensity of your feelings.

8 at least. Hadn't thought of Craig as a real contender for Bond,
merely as one of Britain's best actors, until I saw 'Sword of Honour'
this summer: that made me something of a convert. I think it's about
time for a reboot, despite being mostly happy with Brosnan's movies,
and I'm glad they're using Fleming as a springboard for doing so.
Felix is back, Mathis finally shows up: little touches, but I'm glad.
Most of the advance reports are heartening IMHO. Finally, the tabloid
crap and sheer stupidity of some of the anti-Craig nonsense has brought
out in me a very British sympathy for the underdog.

Best

Phil

Re: 00-Poll [message #227770 ]

Sa, 25 Februar 2006 23:59

ahk

At 12:19pm -0800, 02/22/06, Min L Shaw <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
>title).

Haw. Honestly, if I regularly had Bond experiences, I'd never watch movies
or read novels (except during periods of long recuperation in hospital).

The first movie I saw in the theater was TMWTGG; don't recall what movies
I'd seen on tv before that, but I'd seen a few of the Connery's, probably
DAF and YOLT (both of which are more enjoyable as a kid). It certainly
wasn't OHMSS.

I read the novels in sequence while in high school.

>2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

TMWTGG

>3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels.

Each. It may have taken me a while to track down compilations with the
short stories and novelettes, however.

>4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

I read the Gardner one which was essentially the revenge novel; forget the
title. I thought about reading _Icebreaker_ but never got around to it.

>5) Rank the following:
>*The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
>favorite.

I cannot rank them; the movies are too different. But I'll comment.

Connery did his best acting in the first two movies; truly impressive. I
refuse to blame Moore for anything I didn't like about the Bond movies
during his era, since he did exactly what the producers wanted him to. In
FYEO, Moore showed us that his movies could have been a lot better.

Dalton created a character that truly resembled Fleming's creation. He's
an actor's actor. Wish he did more Bond movies.

Brosnan gave a good performance, better than I expected (since Lawnmower
Man was fresh in my mind when GE was released). Glad Bond was still around
so he could play him.

Lazenby... Man, what's with this guy? You're a fashion model given the
acting opportunity of a lifetime that's going to get you all the sex you
could possibly want (and more) and will make you filthy rich in the
process. You will be paid to dress and act elegantly and to be make love
to the world's most glamorous women, starting with Dianna Rigg. All you
have to do is show up for work on time when DAF went into production.

Is that too much to ask?

>*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

At the top, FRWL, then DN, then GF. TB is enjoyable; guess I'm one of the
few people who likes the underwater sequence at this length. I really
don't like YOLT. I have to put DAF in a separate category as a bad movie
that holds my interest and amuses me for reasons I cannot explain.

>*Moore's seven Eon films.

FYEO is a good movie, ranks with the best of the Connery's. It saved the
franchise, in my opinion. Hell I actually like Moore's performance and
really don't mind Bibi.

OP is a lot of fun. TSWLM is completely absurd and works, mostly, except
for Jaws.

Oh, gosh, LALD and TMWGG have their moments and could have been saved with
better scripts and a lot of editing.

I've not been able to sit through AVTAK or MR, so they don't make the
list.

>*Brosnan's four Eon films.

I still cannot rank them. Too recent. I suppose GE is the best. We were
eight years without Bond, and I feared for the worst. GE was a whole lot
better than I expected it to be. I liked Brosnan's performance and a few
of the character modernizations. I liked the Bond girls. Just didn't like
a lot of the plot or grand stunts. Unfortunately, my expectations from the
other three movies were higher, and they really didn't meet them.

I still need perspective on the Brosnan era.

I guess I expect to enjoy CR, even though I'm disappointed that Bond won't
be young enough and the movie won't resemble the book enough. (Sure don't
give a damn about the actor's hair color; sheesh.)

>*Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
>NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

FRWL, DN, GF, FYEO, OHMSS are the outstanding ones, although I'm not being
fair to Brosnan by failing to choose one of his.

>6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

The Main Theme (Hey! the guitar sings), Diamonds are Forever, You Only
Live Twice, Nobody Does It Better, We Have All the Time in the World (not
the opening theme, but expresses the movie's melancholy)

So I'm expanding your criteria.

>7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
>favorite to least personal favorite.

Don't play those.

>8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10 to
>10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10 being
>"I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend the
>movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason for
>the intensity of your feelings.

If the Brocollis want me to drag people to see the movie, then I want
final script approval. I want a post WWII period piece, a little movie,
with no action set pieces. The set piece should be creation of the
atmosphere and excitement of the casino. The novel's plot needs
improvement, though.

>*TSWLM, FYEO, TMWTGG, AVTAK, OP, LALD, Cannonball Run, MR

Heh.

>*GE, FRWL, OHMSS, GF, TLD

TLD among the top five movies! A bit of controversy...

>8) My interest in CR is about a 7. I admit I'd be more stoked if
>Pierce was back as Bond, but I don't think Craig "cost" my interest
>level any. I'll likely become more excited the closer we get to
>November.

I've said this before: I'd have been pleased if Brosnan had made a fifth
movie, but it should have been from an original script. Even though we
won't get anything close to resembling Fleming's CR, it was the correct
decision to reserve CR for the next actor to play Bond.

Even though they'll mess up CR.

What are the lyrics to OHMSS if it were the title theme? (was:00-Poll) [message #227771 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 00:11

ahk

At 8:18am +0100, 02/23/06, Garmt de Vries <garmtdevries [at] googlemail.com> wrote:

>Too bad OHMSS isn't a song.

Good point, a serious ommission in the Bond song catalogue. Let's correct
it now.

The song has to ask the questions, Will Bond find true romance or does his
heart belong to the Queen (through MI-6)? Will Bond defeat Blofeld and
SPECTRE? Can Bond do a believable upper-crust accent?

Re: 00-Poll [message #227772 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 00:15

ahk

At 12:32pm -0800, 02/23/06, Ian <ianberg [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>1) My first Bond experience was FYEO. It was on television one night
>and I was captivated by the skiing/bobsled sequence.

Watching the winter olympics, why isn't bobselding quite as exciting as it
was in that movie and OHMSS? Even the biatholon, where they shoot rifles,
just isn't as exciting as a Bond movie. Oh well.

Re: 00-Poll [message #227773 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 00:17

Tom Zielinski

"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.63.0602251555200.4665 [at] qbbshf...

<Snip>

> Lazenby... Man, what's with this guy? You're a fashion model given the
> acting opportunity of a lifetime that's going to get you all the sex you
> could possibly want (and more) and will make you filthy rich in the
> process. You will be paid to dress and act elegantly and to be make love
> to the world's most glamorous women, starting with Dianna Rigg. All you
> have to do is show up for work on time when DAF went into production.
>
> Is that too much to ask?

LMAO! Apparently.

The way you put it...is so apt. And obvious. I've met George, and to this
day you can see that he wishes he could take it all back. Though he's done
pretty well since (and good for him), he's gotta regret his youthful
exuberance. And flipping off of "The Man."

>>*Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).
>
> At the top, FRWL, then DN, then GF. TB is enjoyable; guess I'm one of the
> few people who likes the underwater sequence at this length. I really
> don't like YOLT. I have to put DAF in a separate category as a bad movie
> that holds my interest and amuses me for reasons I cannot explain.
>
>>*Moore's seven Eon films.
>
> FYEO is a good movie, ranks with the best of the Connery's. It saved the
> franchise, in my opinion. Hell I actually like Moore's performance and
> really don't mind Bibi.

Ack! Even with the hockey scene and the "Blofeld" scene? FYEO is Moore's
best turn as 007 (the entire assassination of Locque sequence ranks with the
best of the entire series), but it still pales to the best of Connery's
films.

> I've said this before: I'd have been pleased if Brosnan had made a fifth
> movie, but it should have been from an original script. Even though we
> won't get anything close to resembling Fleming's CR, it was the correct
> decision to reserve CR for the next actor to play Bond.
>
> Even though they'll mess up CR.

I'm not so sure...

Tom Zielinski
"...Bond's eyes narrowed. He knew, at some point, he would have to slay this
particular dragon. He settled back in his chair, removing a Morlands' three
ring special from the gunmetal cigarette case. As he waited for the
delicious Balkan/Turkish blend to take effect on his lungs, he reflected
that his intuition tells him that Casino Royale will eventually be ranked
among the best of the series..."

Re: 00-Poll [message #227774 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 00:47

ahk

At 5:17pm -0600, 02/25/06, Tom Zielinski <rtomz [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk [at] chinet.com> wrote:

>>FYEO is a good movie, ranks with the best of the Connery's. It saved the
>>franchise, in my opinion. Hell I actually like Moore's performance and
>>really don't mind Bibi.

>Ack! Even with the hockey scene and the "Blofeld" scene? FYEO is
>Moore's best turn as 007 (the entire assassination of Locque sequence
>ranks with the best of the entire series), but it still pales to the best
>of Connery's films.

Yes, the two scenes you mention were dreadful, but I forgive the Blofeld
sequence because I always accidentally turn on the movie a few minutes
late.

I really like Carole Bouquet (a fully-drawn character) and Topol (except
for the hair). It's nice for Bond to have a top Bond girl and
decent allies.

>>I've said this before: I'd have been pleased if Brosnan had made a fifth
>>movie, but it should have been from an original script. Even though we
>>won't get anything close to resembling Fleming's CR, it was the correct
>>decision to reserve CR for the next actor to play Bond.

>>Even though they'll mess up CR.

>I'm not so sure...

I anticipate a decent action flick but a lousy adaptation of a novel that,
50 years later, still deserves a good screen treatment.

Didn't mean that the movie, itself, will be a mess. I'm sort of relying on
Paul Haggis's rewrite (which I hope will began with shredding entire
sections of the original script that didn't work so that this movie bears
no resemblence whatsoever to certain Brosnan movies).

Re: 00-Poll [message #227777 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 02:44

phil.gerrard1

Adam wrote:

> I read the Gardner one which was essentially the revenge novel; forget the
> title. I thought about reading _Icebreaker_ but never got around to it.

'Icebreaker' is pretty good to begin with, but suffers from a problem
which is common to a lot of Gardner's novels: he runs out of actual
plot a long way before the end, and he pads out the rest of the book
with an increasingly tedious series of double-crosses.

> Lazenby... Man, what's with this guy? You're a fashion model given the
> acting opportunity of a lifetime that's going to get you all the sex you
> could possibly want (and more) and will make you filthy rich in the
> process. You will be paid to dress and act elegantly and to be make love
> to the world's most glamorous women, starting with Dianna Rigg. All you
> have to do is show up for work on time when DAF went into production.
>
> Is that too much to ask?

LOL! The answer's probably somewhere in your second sentence. His
expectations of movie stardom were somewhat different from what he
experienced on-set, and he wanted his ego stroked more than an unkown
could realistically expect. He behaved like a diva when he had yet to
have a movie released, and by many accounts has regretted it ever
since. Give any 29-year-old with no experience in the business that
kind of break and chances are they'll make a mess of it.

> I guess I expect to enjoy CR, even though I'm disappointed that Bond won't
> be young enough and the movie won't resemble the book enough. (Sure don't
> give a damn about the actor's hair color; sheesh.)

If it's Fleming's Bond to whom you're referring, I'm not so sure that
37 is too old. He got his OO stripes some time during WWII, so he's
likely to be in his 30s, and I'd argue probably his mid-30s, by the
time CR takes place. I have a tough time imagining that Bond would be
trusted to carry out the assassinations detailed in CR when he only was
21 or 22.

> TLD among the top five movies! A bit of controversy...

It might depend on one's age. The sense of relief many fans felt about
TLD after the train wreck which was AVTAK probably won't make sense to
younger viewers, or to those who'd seen the Bond films pull themselves
out of the mire before. The same might go for how some people feel
about FYEO (after MR) or GE (after LTK or after a six-year break,
depending on where you stand). I think the same is going to apply to
CR: if it's a more down-to-earth entry, as all indications suggest,
it's likely to get some extra slack from people who hated DAD.

> I've said this before: I'd have been pleased if Brosnan had made a fifth
> movie, but it should have been from an original script. Even though we
> won't get anything close to resembling Fleming's CR, it was the correct
> decision to reserve CR for the next actor to play Bond.
>
> Even though they'll mess up CR.

As an adaptation of the novel? (I know that's what you mean from your
subsequent post, but, hey, let's regard this as the NG equivalent of
shooting out of sequence :-) ) I still think it wouldn't work on the
screen without substantial changes: it's too talky, and if you
abbreviate the dialogue and descriptive passages, there's not enough
filmable material left to last even eighty or ninety minutes. I'm
sceptical that it could be done 'straight' in any meaningful sense.

Best

Phil

How CR should be adapted (was: 00-Poll) [message #227786 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 09:26

ahk

phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
>Adam wrote:

>>I guess I expect to enjoy CR, even though I'm disappointed that Bond
>>won't be young enough and the movie won't resemble the book enough.
>>(Sure don't give a damn about the actor's hair color; sheesh.)

>If it's Fleming's Bond to whom you're referring, I'm not so sure that 37
>is too old. He got his OO stripes some time during WWII, so he's likely
>to be in his 30s, and I'd argue probably his mid-30s, by the time CR
>takes place. I have a tough time imagining that Bond would be trusted to
>carry out the assassinations detailed in CR when he only was 21 or 22.

Perhaps not, but my preference would be for an actor in his early 30s.
It's not that important. I realize that the novel is from 1953, but is it
set in 1953? The plot about Communist infiltration in trade unions seems
like it would have been old news. France was going through a series of
crises in the '50's, Indochina and Algiers (too early for Suez), far more
likely to lead to downfall and inevitable constitutional crisis than trade
unions. To me, the book seems set in an era with some recovery from WWII
but before France had committed its worst foreign policy blunders that
MI-6 would be truly concerned about. The novel seems to be set in a time
four or five years before it was written.

>>TLD among the top five movies! A bit of controversy...

>It might depend on one's age. The sense of relief many fans felt about
>TLD after the train wreck which was AVTAK probably won't make sense to
>younger viewers, or to those who'd seen the Bond films pull themselves
>out of the mire before. The same might go for how some people feel
>about FYEO (after MR) or GE (after LTK or after a six-year break,
>depending on where you stand).

I'm old enough to have seen TMWTGG in the theaters as a kid, and wise
enough to have not seen MR in the theaters. Yes, I was certainly relieved
when FYEO (and GE for that matter) came out. Sure, I appreciate the
sentiment for TLD.

>>I've said this before: I'd have been pleased if Brosnan had made a fifth
>>movie, but it should have been from an original script. Even though we
>>won't get anything close to resembling Fleming's CR, it was the correct
>>decision to reserve CR for the next actor to play Bond.

>>Even though they'll mess up CR.

>As an adaptation of the novel? (I know that's what you mean from your
>subsequent post, but, hey, let's regard this as the NG equivalent of
>shooting out of sequence :-) ) I still think it wouldn't work on the
>screen without substantial changes: it's too talky, and if you abbreviate
>the dialogue and descriptive passages, there's not enough filmable
>material left to last even eighty or ninety minutes. I'm sceptical that
>it could be done 'straight' in any meaningful sense.

Heh.

I agreee CR cannot be adapted directly for the screen. Hell, the
adaptation for a tv anthology show resulted in a tightly written script
which improved the plot. But I want the novel's essence preserved:

1) I like the way the talkiness established the characters and found the
conversations between Bond and Mathis interesting. It would be nice to
keep some of this.

2) Emphasize the location. There have been hardly any movies set in the
Riviera since the '50's, so it'll be a nice change.

3) Make the casino scenes as thrilling and glamorous as possible through
suspence and plotting. The gambling is critical.

4) Keep the main characters, Vesper, Mathis, Le Chiffre, as close to
Fleming's idea as possible.

5) Preserve the romance between Bond and Vesper and his crushing defeat
upon learning of her betrayal.

6) Keep Bond off balance, unaware of what's going on behind the scenes.

7) No big stunts (well, nothing beyond a car chase along the sea), no
thwarting of a plot to destroy the world, no gadgets.

The torture scene isn't all the important; curious that it was the first
thing mentioned by the producers, but I suppose they employ similar
techniques during contract negotiations. It's not the ideal confrontation
between Bond and the bad guy, mostly because it doesn't get resolved in a
logical fashion. Fleming just left him sitting on the chair.

Plenty of stuff to discard, starting with the convenient assasination of
Le Chiffre.

Re: How CR should be adapted (was: 00-Poll) [message #227787 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 09:33

JHause

Considering that we just had an actor in his fifties playing a 30-40
year old Bond, I don't think a 38 year old playing early thirties will
be much of a stretch. Craig sure doesn't look 50 in those beach shots.

Re: How CR should be adapted (was: 00-Poll) [message #227791 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 13:18

phil.gerrard1

Adam wrote:

> I realize that the novel is from 1953, but is it
> set in 1953? The plot about Communist infiltration in trade unions seems
> like it would have been old news. France was going through a series of
> crises in the '50's, Indochina and Algiers (too early for Suez), far more
> likely to lead to downfall and inevitable constitutional crisis than trade
> unions.

I don't know. My thought was that Fleming assumed his readers would be
familiar with what was going on in France at the time and would
understand it as the backdrop to the events of the novel, giving them
an extra urgency. It's like Fleming's stated inspiration for the
story, his attempt to clean out a couple of Nazis: it's the background,
which is as familiar to us as the political condition of France would
have been to readers in 1953, which gives the story added spice. (Of
course, some people reckon that Fleming's tale of his own card game was
a little bit of a fabrication, but let's leave that for the moment.)

> 2) Emphasize the location. There have been hardly any movies set in the
> Riviera since the '50's, so it'll be a nice change.

Off the top of my head, 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels', and, um, er...

> Plenty of stuff to discard, starting with the convenient assasination of
> Le Chiffre.

The SMERSH assassin's timing is suspiciously impeccable, isn't it? I
like the fact that his appearance and subsequent moments with Bond
foreshadow Bond's belated understanding that he's not been seeing the
big picture, that Le Chiffre was only the tip of the iceberg. But,
yes, some of the plotting could have a bit tighter.

Best

Phil

Re: How CR should be adapted (was: 00-Poll) [message #227795 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 18:19

ahk

At 12:33am -0800, 02/26/06, JHause [at] aol.com wrote:

>Considering that we just had an actor in his fifties playing a 30-40
>year old Bond, I don't think a 38 year old playing early thirties will
>be much of a stretch.

Not for one movie, no. Assuming he does several movies, yes, UNLESS they
make him in his early 40s in future movies.

Re: What are the lyrics to OHMSS if it were the title theme? (was: 00-Poll) [message #227797 ]

So, 26 Februar 2006 19:07

Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> At 8:18am +0100, 02/23/06, Garmt de Vries <garmtdevries [at] googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >Too bad OHMSS isn't a song.
>
> Good point, a serious ommission in the Bond song catalogue. Let's correct
> it now.
>
> The song has to ask the questions, Will Bond find true romance or does his
> heart belong to the Queen (through MI-6)? Will Bond defeat Blofeld and
> SPECTRE? Can Bond do a believable upper-crust accent?

--- I'm glad it's not a song, it would've killed the whole underlying
sinister tone to the instrumental. The great thing about not knowing
about anything of a movie before it comes out, as in 69 when OHMSS came
out and I wasn't one to read up on advance spoilers, nor were advance
spoilers published so pervasively as they are now, is that one became
pleasantly surprised by the unexpected. An instrumental theme was
unexpected in my first viewing of the film and the more I realized it
was going to be only an instrumental as it played on, the more I
appreciated it and the more I got chills up my spine at certain turns
of it. It still sends me on a kind of musical roller coaster ride as I
listen to it. Also, I think each Bond introducing a new actor in the
role should come with just an instrumental theme, it helps better
define a new tone and direction for the series when used as a kind of
marker.

Re: What are the lyrics to OHMSS if it were the title theme? (was:00-Poll) [message #227807 ]

Mo, 27 Februar 2006 01:02

ahk

At 10:07am -0800, 02/26/06, wq [at] email.com wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>At 8:18am +0100, 02/23/06, Garmt de Vries <garmtdevries [at] googlemail.com> wrote:

>>>Too bad OHMSS isn't a song.

>>Good point, a serious ommission in the Bond song catalogue. Let's correct
>>it now.

>>The song has to ask the questions, Will Bond find true romance or does
>>his heart belong to the Queen (through MI-6)? Will Bond defeat Blofeld
>>and SPECTRE? Can Bond do a believable upper-crust accent?

>I'm glad it's not a song, it would've killed the whole underlying
>sinister tone to the instrumental.

The OP wasn't suggesting that the OHMSS opening theme have lyrics but that
there might have been a title song.

Re: What are the lyrics to OHMSS if it were the title theme? (was: 00-Poll) [message #227857 ]

Mo, 27 Februar 2006 16:07

phil.gerrard1

Adam wrote:

> The OP wasn't suggesting that the OHMSS opening theme have lyrics but that
> there might have been a title song.

Took me a second to realise the opening of that sentence was meant to
be read as 'The original post wasn't suggesting...' rather than 'The
Octopussy wasn't suggesting...' :-)

Regarding the OHMSS theme, I always found it interesting that the main
phrase around which the piece is based has nine notes, where there are
nine syllables in the film's title. Of course, if you try to sing the
title to that tune, the stresses are all over the place and it sounds
idiotic, so I presume it's a coincidence, or perhaps even a little
in-joke on Barry's part.

Best

Phil

Re: 00-Poll [message #228021 ]

Mi, 01 März 2006 21:45

Ian

As a kid I watched Dukes of Hazzard every week so I like car chases.
Even my least favourite Bond movies are still watchable for the fast
cars.

Re: 00-Poll [message #228027 ]

Mi, 01 März 2006 22:31

ahk

At 12:45pm -0800, 03/01/06, ianberg [at] gmail.com wrote:

>As a kid I watched Dukes of Hazzard every week so I like car chases.

I liked Catherine Bach's legs, but otherwise it was unwatchable. The car
chases were dull. Same thing week after week. Will the General Lee jump
the creek? Will Roscoe crash all the squad cars?

You like car chases? See "The Rockford Files". Those car chases were
sublime.

Re: 00-Poll [message #228028 ]

Mi, 01 März 2006 22:32

Ian

I was 6 years old when Hazzard was on TV.

I'll watch for Rockford's car chases next time it's on. Haven't seen
that show in years.

Re: 00-Poll [message #228032 ]

Mi, 01 März 2006 23:02

ahk

At 1:32pm -0800, 03/01/06, ianberg [at] gmail.com wrote:

>I'll watch for Rockford's car chases next time it's on. Haven't seen
>that show in years.

Season One was released on DVD in time for US Christmas. It had come out a
few months earlier in the UK and included the pilot. Season Two comes out
this June in the US and will include the pilot.

Re: 00-Poll [message #242839 ]

So, 26 März 2006 22:13

Lee Edward McIlmoyle

"Min L Shaw" <minlshaw [at] gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140639540.076218.102460 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> 1) My first Bond experience was in a) book or b) movie form (provide
> title).

It's hard to remember which one was first, because they all happened
around the same time in around 78 or 79, when I watched a Bond marathon
on ABC, if the information I've been given via older fans is correct.
And so, all I can say is, I saw Connery, Lazenby and Moore when I was
around nine, on television. I wouldn't actually open a Fleming novel
until I reached my 30s, in fact.

> 2) The first Bond I saw in the theatres was:

Oddly enough, I have NEVER seen a Bond film in theatres. I prefer to
watch Bond in the comfort of my own home, where I can digest it
properly. I like to be entertained as much as anyone when it comes to
these films, but I came back to Bond on a somewhat scholarly note, and
have a tendency to analyze it and absorb form and style. One day, I hope
to finish a very cool book I started, and Bond movies are at the core of
it.

> 3) I have read __ of Ian Fleming's original novels:

So far, I've only read a few Flemings and one or two Gardners. I haven't
read any Bensons. None of this is a statement on the books themselves.
Read my previous answer, and you'll see that I'm trying NOT to absorb
too much of the original book flavour. The book I'm writing is strictly
a Bond movie pastiche. The books do it differently, although I already
detect a little too much Fleming in the chapters I've written.

> 4) I have read __ of the continuation novels (any and all authors).

see #3.

> 5) Rank the following:
> *The five (so-far) actors, from PERSONAL favorite to PERSONAL least
> favorite.

DaltonConneryLazenbyBrosnanMoore. This opinion will self-destruct in
five seconds.

> *Connery's six Eon films (you can include NSNA if you want).

FRWL/TB/*/DN/GF/NSNA/DAF/YOLT *=The Rock

> *Moore's seven Eon films.

FYEO/OP/MR/TSWLM/LALD/*/TMWTGG/AVTAK *=Cannonball Run :D

> *Brosnan's four Eon films.

TWINE/DAD/GF/TND

> *Your PERSONAL top five favorite Bond screen adventures (all 20 Eons,
> NSNA and both previous CR's are fair game).

OHMSS/FRWL/TLD/TB/FYEO

> 6) My top five favorite Bond title songs are:

TWINE/TLD/AVTAK/TB/FRWL

> 7) I have played the following EA Bond games, ranked from personal
> favorite to least personal favorite.
>
> 8) My interest/disinterest in "Casino Royale," is, on a scale of -10
> to 10, with -10 being "I wish I'd started craignotbond.com" and 10
> being "I will personally recruit seven friends to with me each weekend
> the movie is playing no matter what." Please provide a brief reason
> for the intensity of your feelings.

5. I'm very interested. but it's personal. I'll probably only show it to
my wife and two or three of my friends when it comes to DVD.

Lee Edward McIlmoyle,
says no more

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