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Mi, 22 Februar 2006 07:55 |
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Thought this might interest some of you...
-Frank
Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film
Tuesday February 21 9:26 PM ET
They're shaken, stirred and just plain angry. And several months late
with their response. A group of James Bond fans have launched a Web
site, http://www.craignotbond.com, to protest British actor Daniel
Craig replacing Pierce Brosnan in the 007 film franchise, and boycott
the upcoming Bond movie "Casino Royale."
The fair-haired Craig, whose recent screen credits include "Munich" and
"The Jacket," was tapped last October to play the secret-agent icon.
"EON Productions angered fans around the world when they fired Pierce
Brosnan at the height of his popularity as Bond," said a statement on
the site. "To add insult to injury, EON cast a short, blond,
odd-looking Daniel Craig in the role of Bond."
"Craig, described by The New York Times as having a 'pale, flattened
face and large, fleshy ears' is a terrible choice for Bond. If EON
Productions and Sony Pictures will not accept they've made a big
mistake, then Bond fans promise to boycott Casino Royale!"
Calls by The Associated Press to EON Productions and a representative
for Craig were not immediately returned on Tuesday.
Brosnan stepped into the shoes of dashing predecessors Sean Connery and
Roger Moore to play a blue-eyed, dark-haired Bond in "Tomorrow Never
Dies," "The World Is Not Enough" and "Die Another Day."
In its statement, the Web site claimed EON did not want to pay for
Brosnan or other high-profile actors Hugh Jackman and Clive Owen as
replacements.
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http://www.craignotbond.com
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227409 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 09:40 |
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FTseng2749 wrote:
> They're shaken, stirred and just plain angry. And several months late
> with their response. A group of James Bond fans have launched a Web
> site, http://www.craignotbond.com, to protest British actor Daniel
> Craig replacing Pierce Brosnan in the 007 film franchise, and boycott
> the upcoming Bond movie "Casino Royale."
A 'group'. Riiiight. How many people does it take to launch a website
exactly? This can be taken as a barometer of public opinion how? And
this is newsworthy in what sense? You might as well quote one of
Scojo's demented witterings for all it represents general opinion.
David Icke has a website, therefore his views must be reported
seriously and as a beacon of public feeling - yeah?
Phil
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227411 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 09:59 |
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phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> FTseng2749 wrote:
>
> > They're shaken, stirred and just plain angry. And several months late
> > with their response. A group of James Bond fans have launched a Web
> > site, http://www.craignotbond.com, to protest British actor Daniel
> > Craig replacing Pierce Brosnan in the 007 film franchise, and boycott
> > the upcoming Bond movie "Casino Royale."
>
> A 'group'. Riiiight. How many people does it take to launch a website
> exactly? This can be taken as a barometer of public opinion how? And
> this is newsworthy in what sense? You might as well quote one of
> Scojo's demented witterings for all it represents general opinion.
>
> David Icke has a website, therefore his views must be reported
> seriously and as a beacon of public feeling - yeah?
>
> Phil
LOL!
"Soon we will have 500 signatures on our boycott petition. This means
Sony will be denied a whopping $4000 in ticket sales and will be
bankrupt."
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227412 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 10:03 |
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"Calls to the owner of the site were not returned, as his mom said he
was sleeping."
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227413 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 12:02 |
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JHause wrote:
> "Soon we will have 500 signatures on our boycott petition. This means
> Sony will be denied a whopping $4000 in ticket sales and will be
> bankrupt."
LOL!
There's an irony in all this. When the casting and project were
first announced, my reaction was to think 'Interesting choices -
let's see how this goes.' But the more petty, vindictive,
illogical, badly-written anti-Craig-and-CR nonsense I read, the more
partisan and pro-Craig-and-CR my attitudes become, and I would be
willing to bet I'm not alone in feeling that way. Wouldn't it be a
hoot if the net effect of the naysayers' and trolls' whining and
bitching was to increase public interest in (and support for) the film?
Best
Phil
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227427 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 14:38 |
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"phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com" <phil.gerrard1 [at] ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1140597618.520828.64810 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> FTseng2749 wrote:
> A 'group'. Riiiight. How many people does it take to launch a website
> exactly? This can be taken as a barometer of public opinion how? And
> this is newsworthy in what sense? You might as well quote one of
> Scojo's demented witterings
I think he just did...
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227428 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 14:44 |
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I read through the site, but how seriously can I take a petition who
doesn't even recognize a photo of Nosferatu on his own site?
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227432 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 15:40 |
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Rich Handley wrote:
> I read through the site, but how seriously can I take a petition who
> doesn't even recognize a photo of Nosferatu on his own site?
The first thing that happens is somebody at MGM or Sony notes the site
when they're asked for a comment. It's forwarded to the legal
department. Some hack at the legal department calls the company hosting
the site and gets the owner info. They then send a registerd letter to
the owner, instructing him to remove all Sony and MGM content, as well
as mentions of James Bond or any owned content. They will then tell him
he has 24 hours -- after 24 hours they will take legal action. Said
owner will then try to decide if he has more money to spend on a legal
fight or Sony. Happens all the time.
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227435 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:06 |
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Let's not forget that Casino Royale was initially done with fair
haired, long, odd-looking David Niven as Bond (of all people)... It all
makes sense to me :)
Although that version of Casino Royale was never considered an official
Bond movie, it was more of a spoof.
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227436 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:10 |
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of course, you realized I meant "tall" instead of "long"
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227438 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:26 |
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"FTseng2749" <ftseng2749 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140591311.898373.209840 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thought this might interest some of you...
>
> -Frank
>
> Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film
> Tuesday February 21 9:26 PM ET
>
>
> They're shaken, stirred and just plain angry. And several months late
> with their response. A group of James Bond fans have launched a Web
> site, http://www.craignotbond.com, to protest British actor Daniel
> Craig replacing Pierce Brosnan in the 007 film franchise, and boycott
> the upcoming Bond movie "Casino Royale."
>
> The fair-haired Craig, whose recent screen credits include "Munich" and
> "The Jacket," was tapped last October to play the secret-agent icon.
>
> "EON Productions angered fans around the world when they fired Pierce
> Brosnan at the height of his popularity as Bond," said a statement on
> the site. "To add insult to injury, EON cast a short, blond,
> odd-looking Daniel Craig in the role of Bond."
>
>
>
> "Craig, described by The New York Times as having a 'pale, flattened
> face and large, fleshy ears' is a terrible choice for Bond. If EON
> Productions and Sony Pictures will not accept they've made a big
> mistake, then Bond fans promise to boycott Casino Royale!"
>
> Calls by The Associated Press to EON Productions and a representative
> for Craig were not immediately returned on Tuesday.
>
> Brosnan stepped into the shoes of dashing predecessors Sean Connery and
> Roger Moore to play a blue-eyed, dark-haired Bond in "Tomorrow Never
> Dies," "The World Is Not Enough" and "Die Another Day."
>
> In its statement, the Web site claimed EON did not want to pay for
> Brosnan or other high-profile actors Hugh Jackman and Clive Owen as
> replacements.
>
> ___
>
> http://www.craignotbond.com
>
Clearly, they have too much time on their hands.
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227439 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:35 |
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LOL
I agree to boycott this film until November!
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227440 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:36 |
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Will wrote:
> Clearly, they have too much time on their hands.
That'd be "they" as in the Royal "we", of course ;-)
Best
Phil
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227442 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:30 |
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Sweet Jesus, this whole "Craig is wrong as Bond" brouhaha is now officially
f*&%ing insane....
"FTseng2749" <ftseng2749 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140591311.898373.209840 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Thought this might interest some of you...
>
> -Frank
>
> Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film
> Tuesday February 21 9:26 PM ET
>
<heavy snip>
>
> http://www.craignotbond.com
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227444 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 16:59 |
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"James Hunter" <jameshunter [at] videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:fw%Kf.96888$w46.496744 [at] wagner.videotron.net...
> Sweet Jesus, this whole "Craig is wrong as Bond" brouhaha is now
> officially
> f*&%ing insane....
>
> "FTseng2749" <ftseng2749 [at] aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1140591311.898373.209840 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Thought this might interest some of you...
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film
>> Tuesday February 21 9:26 PM ET
>>
> <heavy snip>
>>
>> http://www.craignotbond.com
>>
>
>
Yeah, before that it was "unofficially" insane ;-)
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Mi, 22 Februar 2006 17:04 |
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"JHause" <JHause [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140622555.760131.191150 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> LOL
>
> I agree to boycott this film until November!
>
The group's President, WQ, released this statement on the website: "Having
read one-third of a possible script that may or may not be real, the movie
is destined to be a flop. Make your feelings known to EON by erecting yard
signs, creating bumper stickers and calling producers. Although we haven't
seen one frame of the film, there's just no way it can work. Furthermore,
that new Aston Martin has a few gadgets in it - unacceptable !!"
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227446 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 17:10 |
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James wrote:
> Sweet Jesus, this whole "Craig is wrong as Bond" brouhaha is now officially
> f*&%ing insane....
Actually, the craignotbond site is so shoddily put together,
ill-argued, and immaturely written that it's going to do the
anti-Craig case more harm than good IMHO. Whoever the crank was who
wrote it, I think he or she has just scored an own goal.
Best
Phil
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227448 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 17:31 |
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phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> James wrote:
>
> > Sweet Jesus, this whole "Craig is wrong as Bond" brouhaha is now officially
> > f*&%ing insane....
>
> Actually, the craignotbond site is so shoddily put together,
> ill-argued, and immaturely written that it's going to do the
> anti-Craig case more harm than good IMHO. Whoever the crank was who
> wrote it, I think he or she has just scored an own goal.
>
> Best
>
> Phil
--- I'd agree with you there. If you're going to go through some
effort doing something like that, at least put in a good job to make it
look credible. But it's a dumb site considering the deed is done and
being done, so it's kind of an exercise in futility and will
doubtlessly have no effect whatsoever on the outcome. Just like all
the "debates" about it here.
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227491 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 00:10 |
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Here's a good one: an anti-Haggis guy defending Craig. This is getting
so hilariously ludicrous...
http://commanderbond.net/quicknews/index.php?action=item& ;item=29117
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227502 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 01:10 |
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Incidentally, props to MI6 for reporting the story with the word 'fans'
in inverted commas. Nice touch, James...
Best
Phil
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Do, 23 Februar 2006 01:38 |
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I've watched 220 mins or so of Craig in Archangel and he has one line
where he shows Bond charm. ONE LINE!
If he is like that in CR it will be a massive flop. It won't even get
over $50 million at the US box office. Craig has to manifest Bond charm
and confidence as his look has already alienated people. So he has to
crank up the charm and confidence to stand any realistic chance of
success.
LLC
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227515 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 02:10 |
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One quick further point: Brosnan stated yet again tonight, in a BBC
interview, that he now wouldn't go back to doing Bond, and although it
was painful to lose the role, that's all in the past, that he wants to
do other things, and in fact feels liberated. The whole raison d'etre
of the craignotbond site is to get Brosnan to return as Bond - ie to
get him to do something he says he doesn't want to do any more. What a
stupid waste of effort.
Best
Phil
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Do, 23 Februar 2006 04:49 |
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phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> One quick further point: Brosnan stated yet again tonight, in a BBC
> interview, that he now wouldn't go back to doing Bond, and although it
> was painful to lose the role, that's all in the past, that he wants to
> do other things, and in fact feels liberated. The whole raison d'etre
> of the craignotbond site is to get Brosnan to return as Bond - ie to
> get him to do something he says he doesn't want to do any more. What a
> stupid waste of effort.
>
> Best
>
> Phil
It doesn't matter. Their identities are all tied up in Brosnan now.
They feel rejected because he was let go, and therefore they must call
Daniel Craig ugly in retaliation. (Which is hilarious because you KNOW
these people are all absolute beasts who Pierce Brosnan would avoid
like the plague in real life.)
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227538 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 12:03 |
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JHause wrote:
>
> "Soon we will have 500 signatures on our boycott petition. This means
> Sony will be denied a whopping $4000 in ticket sales and will be
> bankrupt."
Well, if the PS3 production cost really is $900, that might push them
over the edge :)
Absorb
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And it better not sell for over $450
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| Re: article: "Angry Bond Fans Threaten to Boycott Film" [message #227559 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 17:19 |
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phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
> There's an irony in all this. When the casting and project were
> first announced, my reaction was to think 'Interesting choices -
> let's see how this goes.' But the more petty, vindictive,
> illogical, badly-written anti-Craig-and-CR nonsense I read, the more
> partisan and pro-Craig-and-CR my attitudes become, and I would be
> willing to bet I'm not alone in feeling that way.
Absolutely not--I feel exactly the same. Underdog-rooter that I am, I
want Craig to knock this out of the park and toss off a "fuck you" to
all the gibbering mock Bond 'fans' out there.
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Do, 23 Februar 2006 20:10 |
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Except I ran a WHOIS on the site name and it's registered through an
anonymous registry service, so the legal team has to get a court order
forcing the anonymous registry company to give up the name before they can
pursue the rest of your logic, and by then, the person will register another
name through a different anonymous registry service. It really costs Sony
more money and time than it is worth with anonymous registry nowadays.
Draugnar
"JHause" <JHause [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140619229.817306.167000 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Rich Handley wrote:
>> I read through the site, but how seriously can I take a petition who
>> doesn't even recognize a photo of Nosferatu on his own site?
>
> The first thing that happens is somebody at MGM or Sony notes the site
> when they're asked for a comment. It's forwarded to the legal
> department. Some hack at the legal department calls the company hosting
> the site and gets the owner info. They then send a registerd letter to
> the owner, instructing him to remove all Sony and MGM content, as well
> as mentions of James Bond or any owned content. They will then tell him
> he has 24 hours -- after 24 hours they will take legal action. Said
> owner will then try to decide if he has more money to spend on a legal
> fight or Sony. Happens all the time.
>
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