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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought
| New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #1639] |
Mi, 20 April 2005 05:09 |
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Please see the full diagram with specs at
www.jf.web1000.com/webpages/startrek/upshipyards/startrek_st arships_custom.html
Also posted in alt.binaries.startrek
Plus other (much older) diagrams I did some years ago.
Comments? Criticism?
Enjoy!
Rear Admiral Johnny
Specs (abbreviated) for the new Fearless class heavy dreadnought - a post
Dominion-war design
Type : Heavy Dreadnought
Commissioned : 2375
Production : U.S.S. Fearless U.S.S. - 91101 plus eight in production.
Dedication Plaque Motto : "Do Not Go Gentile Into That Good Night" - Dylan
Thomas, Earth
MISSION :
Ability to engage and destroy multiple large-mass (dreadnought class or
larger) Threat vessels. Ability to incorporate the Heavy Assault Phaser
Lance weapons system which
produces a 1,350,000 terrawatt phaser beam capable of penetrating through a
large-mass Threat vessel's shields, armor and superstructure in a single
beam strike. Extended
offensive and defensive engagement capability against multiple large mass
Threat vessels utilizing primary AND secondary shielding. Ability to
maintain an extended
defensive and offensive engagement with multiple small-mass, highly
maneuverable Threat vessels (fighter hull class and similar.)
DIMENSIONS :
Length (Overall): 2975 meters; Beam: 1136 meters; Height: 374 meters; Decks:
82; Mass: 32,950,634 metric tons
CREW :
4,100 (250 Officers; 3250 Enlisted Crew; 600* ExoComps -Sentient artificial
life forms) 5,600 (Military Troops and / or Special Forces)
*Number may exceed 600 by replication if the ship has critical damage.
PROPULSION :
Cruise warp velocity: Warp Factor 8.0; Emergency warp velocity: Warp Factor
9.2; Impulse drive velocity: 0.74 c (Max.)
TACTICAL :
Assault armament -
1 x Mark one heavy assault phaser lance
Offensive armament -
12 x Multi-vector quadruple torpedo launcher rated for use with Quantum MK I
and II; Photon Type I; II; III; IV; Tri-cobalt device and class I to VX
probes
12 x Rapid-fire quantum torpedo tube + 500 torpedoes per tube
04 x Mark two heavy graviton beam
06 x Direct-fire photon torpedo tubes + 500 torpedoes per tube
50 x Tri-cobalt device
08 x Combat tractor beam system
12 x Combat transporter
Defensive armament -
38 x Type 12 phaser array
29 x Heavy pulse phaser cannon turret
500 x Type 16 antimatter mine
500 x Type 19 antimatter mine
500 x Self-replicating cloaked mine
24 x Class 12 holographic decoy
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #1662 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 03:30 |
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--
Numan
"Rear Admiral Johnny" <REMOVESPAMjohn1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d44h4g$1gls$1 [at] news.wplus.net...
> Please see the full diagram with specs at
> www.jf.web1000.com/webpages/startrek/upshipyards/startrek_st arships_custom.html
> Also posted in alt.binaries.startrek
>
> Plus other (much older) diagrams I did some years ago.
>
> Comments? Criticism?
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Rear Admiral Johnny
>
>
>
> Specs (abbreviated) for the new Fearless class heavy dreadnought - a post
> Dominion-war design
>
> Type : Heavy Dreadnought
>
>
>
>
> Commissioned : 2375
>
> Production : U.S.S. Fearless U.S.S. - 91101 plus eight in production.
>
> Dedication Plaque Motto : "Do Not Go Gentile Into That Good Night" - Dylan
> Thomas, Earth
>
>
>
>
> MISSION :
>
> Ability to engage and destroy multiple large-mass (dreadnought class or
> larger) Threat vessels. Ability to incorporate the Heavy Assault Phaser
> Lance weapons system which
>
> produces a 1,350,000 terrawatt phaser beam capable of penetrating through
> a large-mass Threat vessel's shields, armor and superstructure in a single
> beam strike. Extended
>
> offensive and defensive engagement capability against multiple large mass
> Threat vessels utilizing primary AND secondary shielding. Ability to
> maintain an extended
>
> defensive and offensive engagement with multiple small-mass, highly
> maneuverable Threat vessels (fighter hull class and similar.)
>
>
>
>
> DIMENSIONS :
>
> Length (Overall): 2975 meters; Beam: 1136 meters; Height: 374 meters;
> Decks: 82; Mass: 32,950,634 metric tons
>
>
>
>
> CREW :
>
> 4,100 (250 Officers; 3250 Enlisted Crew; 600* ExoComps -Sentient
> artificial life forms) 5,600 (Military Troops and / or Special Forces)
>
> *Number may exceed 600 by replication if the ship has critical damage.
>
>
>
>
> PROPULSION :
>
> Cruise warp velocity: Warp Factor 8.0; Emergency warp velocity: Warp
> Factor 9.2; Impulse drive velocity: 0.74 c (Max.)
>
>
>
>
> TACTICAL :
>
> Assault armament -
>
> 1 x Mark one heavy assault phaser lance
>
>
>
>
> Offensive armament -
>
> 12 x Multi-vector quadruple torpedo launcher rated for use with Quantum MK
> I
>
> and II; Photon Type I; II; III; IV; Tri-cobalt device and class I to VX
> probes
>
> 12 x Rapid-fire quantum torpedo tube + 500 torpedoes per tube
>
> 04 x Mark two heavy graviton beam
>
> 06 x Direct-fire photon torpedo tubes + 500 torpedoes per tube
>
> 50 x Tri-cobalt device
>
> 08 x Combat tractor beam system
>
> 12 x Combat transporter
>
>
>
>
> Defensive armament -
>
> 38 x Type 12 phaser array
>
> 29 x Heavy pulse phaser cannon turret
>
> 500 x Type 16 antimatter mine
>
> 500 x Type 19 antimatter mine
>
> 500 x Self-replicating cloaked mine
>
> 24 x Class 12 holographic decoy
>
I would like to see this on Graham's website so that we can compare
it to other ships. I would love to see pictures. Over 80 decks! Damn
I hope they have high-speed turbo lifts.
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #1673 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 10:46 |
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> "Rear Admiral Johnny" <REMOVESPAMjohn1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d44h4g$1gls$1 [at] news.wplus.net...
>
>>> Please see the full diagram with specs at
>>> www.jf.web1000.com/webpages/startrek/upshipyards/startrek_st arships_custom.html
>>> Also posted in alt.binaries.startrek
>>>
>>> Plus other (much older) diagrams I did some years ago.
>>>
>>> Comments? Criticism?
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Rear Admiral Johnny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Specs (abbreviated) for the new Fearless class heavy dreadnought - a post
>>> Dominion-war design
>>>
>>> Type : Heavy Dreadnought
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Commissioned : 2375
>>>
>>> Production : U.S.S. Fearless U.S.S. - 91101 plus eight in production.
>>>
>>> Dedication Plaque Motto : "Do Not Go Gentile Into That Good Night" - Dylan
>>> Thomas, Earth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MISSION :
>>>
>>> Ability to engage and destroy multiple large-mass (dreadnought class or
>>> larger) Threat vessels. Ability to incorporate the Heavy Assault Phaser
>>> Lance weapons system which
>>>
>>> produces a 1,350,000 terrawatt phaser beam capable of penetrating through
>>> a large-mass Threat vessel's shields, armor and superstructure in a single
>>> beam strike. Extended
>>>
>>> offensive and defensive engagement capability against multiple large mass
>>> Threat vessels utilizing primary AND secondary shielding. Ability to
>>> maintain an extended
>>>
>>> defensive and offensive engagement with multiple small-mass, highly
>>> maneuverable Threat vessels (fighter hull class and similar.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DIMENSIONS :
>>>
>>> Length (Overall): 2975 meters; Beam: 1136 meters; Height: 374 meters;
>>> Decks: 82; Mass: 32,950,634 metric tons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CREW :
>>>
>>> 4,100 (250 Officers; 3250 Enlisted Crew; 600* ExoComps -Sentient
>>> artificial life forms) 5,600 (Military Troops and / or Special Forces)
>>>
>>> *Number may exceed 600 by replication if the ship has critical damage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PROPULSION :
>>>
>>> Cruise warp velocity: Warp Factor 8.0; Emergency warp velocity: Warp
>>> Factor 9.2; Impulse drive velocity: 0.74 c (Max.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TACTICAL :
>>>
>>> Assault armament -
>>>
>>> 1 x Mark one heavy assault phaser lance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Offensive armament -
>>>
>>> 12 x Multi-vector quadruple torpedo launcher rated for use with Quantum MK
>>> I
>>>
>>> and II; Photon Type I; II; III; IV; Tri-cobalt device and class I to VX
>>> probes
>>>
>>> 12 x Rapid-fire quantum torpedo tube + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>
>>> 04 x Mark two heavy graviton beam
>>>
>>> 06 x Direct-fire photon torpedo tubes + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>
>>> 50 x Tri-cobalt device
>>>
>>> 08 x Combat tractor beam system
>>>
>>> 12 x Combat transporter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Defensive armament -
>>>
>>> 38 x Type 12 phaser array
>>>
>>> 29 x Heavy pulse phaser cannon turret
>>>
>>> 500 x Type 16 antimatter mine
>>>
>>> 500 x Type 19 antimatter mine
>>>
>>> 500 x Self-replicating cloaked mine
>>>
>>> 24 x Class 12 holographic decoy
>>>
>
>
> I would like to see this on Graham's website so that we can compare
> it to other ships. I would love to see pictures. Over 80 decks! Damn
> I hope they have high-speed turbo lifts.
Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerful
battleships? I'm only shocked that this one doesn't
have slipstream or transwarp drive or something.
Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you
should see the four nacelled-Sovereign I came up with
once. But nobody ever designs a five deck science
vessel!
I did actually once offer to start including fan designs
on the site, but nobody ever submitted any so I never got
the chance. I don't know if I'd do it now.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #19817 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 16:15 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:ZLJ9e.11330$gz2.6937 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> "Rear Admiral Johnny" <REMOVESPAMjohn1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d44h4g$1gls$1 [at] news.wplus.net...
>>
>>>> Please see the full diagram with specs at
>>>> www.jf.web1000.com/webpages/startrek/upshipyards/startrek_st arships_custom.html
>>>> Also posted in alt.binaries.startrek
>>>>
>>>> Plus other (much older) diagrams I did some years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Comments? Criticism?
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Rear Admiral Johnny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Specs (abbreviated) for the new Fearless class heavy dreadnought - a
>>>> post Dominion-war design
>>>>
>>>> Type : Heavy Dreadnought
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commissioned : 2375
>>>>
>>>> Production : U.S.S. Fearless U.S.S. - 91101 plus eight in production.
>>>>
>>>> Dedication Plaque Motto : "Do Not Go Gentile Into That Good Night" -
>>>> Dylan Thomas, Earth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MISSION :
>>>>
>>>> Ability to engage and destroy multiple large-mass (dreadnought class or
>>>> larger) Threat vessels. Ability to incorporate the Heavy Assault Phaser
>>>> Lance weapons system which
>>>>
>>>> produces a 1,350,000 terrawatt phaser beam capable of penetrating
>>>> through a large-mass Threat vessel's shields, armor and superstructure
>>>> in a single beam strike. Extended
>>>>
>>>> offensive and defensive engagement capability against multiple large
>>>> mass Threat vessels utilizing primary AND secondary shielding. Ability
>>>> to maintain an extended
>>>>
>>>> defensive and offensive engagement with multiple small-mass, highly
>>>> maneuverable Threat vessels (fighter hull class and similar.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DIMENSIONS :
>>>>
>>>> Length (Overall): 2975 meters; Beam: 1136 meters; Height: 374 meters;
>>>> Decks: 82; Mass: 32,950,634 metric tons
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CREW :
>>>>
>>>> 4,100 (250 Officers; 3250 Enlisted Crew; 600* ExoComps -Sentient
>>>> artificial life forms) 5,600 (Military Troops and / or Special Forces)
>>>>
>>>> *Number may exceed 600 by replication if the ship has critical damage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PROPULSION :
>>>>
>>>> Cruise warp velocity: Warp Factor 8.0; Emergency warp velocity: Warp
>>>> Factor 9.2; Impulse drive velocity: 0.74 c (Max.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TACTICAL :
>>>>
>>>> Assault armament -
>>>>
>>>> 1 x Mark one heavy assault phaser lance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Offensive armament -
>>>>
>>>> 12 x Multi-vector quadruple torpedo launcher rated for use with Quantum
>>>> MK I
>>>>
>>>> and II; Photon Type I; II; III; IV; Tri-cobalt device and class I to VX
>>>> probes
>>>>
>>>> 12 x Rapid-fire quantum torpedo tube + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>>
>>>> 04 x Mark two heavy graviton beam
>>>>
>>>> 06 x Direct-fire photon torpedo tubes + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>>
>>>> 50 x Tri-cobalt device
>>>>
>>>> 08 x Combat tractor beam system
>>>>
>>>> 12 x Combat transporter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Defensive armament -
>>>>
>>>> 38 x Type 12 phaser array
>>>>
>>>> 29 x Heavy pulse phaser cannon turret
>>>>
>>>> 500 x Type 16 antimatter mine
>>>>
>>>> 500 x Type 19 antimatter mine
>>>>
>>>> 500 x Self-replicating cloaked mine
>>>>
>>>> 24 x Class 12 holographic decoy
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to see this on Graham's website so that we can compare
>> it to other ships. I would love to see pictures. Over 80 decks! Damn
>> I hope they have high-speed turbo lifts.
>
> Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerful
> battleships? I'm only shocked that this one doesn't
> have slipstream or transwarp drive or something.
>
> Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you
> should see the four nacelled-Sovereign I came up with
> once. But nobody ever designs a five deck science
> vessel!
>
> I did actually once offer to start including fan designs
> on the site, but nobody ever submitted any so I never got
> the chance. I don't know if I'd do it now.
>
> --
> Graham Kennedy
I think man has always wanted to conquer the elements and
wanted to build bigger, faster, better. Look at the QM2! I
would love to sail on it but hate the idea of having to dress
up to do it!
Anyway, this thing would be about half the size of a Borg
Cube wouldn't it?
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #19820 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 16:39 |
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Numan wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:ZLJ9e.11330$gz2.6937 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>>>"Rear Admiral Johnny" <REMOVESPAMjohn1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:d44h4g$1gls$1 [at] news.wplus.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Please see the full diagram with specs at
>>>>> www.jf.web1000.com/webpages/startrek/upshipyards/startrek_st arships_custom.html
>>>>>Also posted in alt.binaries.startrek
>>>>>
>>>>>Plus other (much older) diagrams I did some years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>Comments? Criticism?
>>>>>
>>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>>Rear Admiral Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Specs (abbreviated) for the new Fearless class heavy dreadnought - a
>>>>>post Dominion-war design
>>>>>
>>>>>Type : Heavy Dreadnought
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Commissioned : 2375
>>>>>
>>>>>Production : U.S.S. Fearless U.S.S. - 91101 plus eight in production.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dedication Plaque Motto : "Do Not Go Gentile Into That Good Night" -
>>>>>Dylan Thomas, Earth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>MISSION :
>>>>>
>>>>>Ability to engage and destroy multiple large-mass (dreadnought class or
>>>>>larger) Threat vessels. Ability to incorporate the Heavy Assault Phaser
>>>>>Lance weapons system which
>>>>>
>>>>>produces a 1,350,000 terrawatt phaser beam capable of penetrating
>>>>>through a large-mass Threat vessel's shields, armor and superstructure
>>>>>in a single beam strike. Extended
>>>>>
>>>>>offensive and defensive engagement capability against multiple large
>>>>>mass Threat vessels utilizing primary AND secondary shielding. Ability
>>>>>to maintain an extended
>>>>>
>>>>>defensive and offensive engagement with multiple small-mass, highly
>>>>>maneuverable Threat vessels (fighter hull class and similar.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>DIMENSIONS :
>>>>>
>>>>>Length (Overall): 2975 meters; Beam: 1136 meters; Height: 374 meters;
>>>>>Decks: 82; Mass: 32,950,634 metric tons
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>CREW :
>>>>>
>>>>>4,100 (250 Officers; 3250 Enlisted Crew; 600* ExoComps -Sentient
>>>>>artificial life forms) 5,600 (Military Troops and / or Special Forces)
>>>>>
>>>>>*Number may exceed 600 by replication if the ship has critical damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>PROPULSION :
>>>>>
>>>>>Cruise warp velocity: Warp Factor 8.0; Emergency warp velocity: Warp
>>>>>Factor 9.2; Impulse drive velocity: 0.74 c (Max.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>TACTICAL :
>>>>>
>>>>>Assault armament -
>>>>>
>>>>>1 x Mark one heavy assault phaser lance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Offensive armament -
>>>>>
>>>>>12 x Multi-vector quadruple torpedo launcher rated for use with Quantum
>>>>>MK I
>>>>>
>>>>>and II; Photon Type I; II; III; IV; Tri-cobalt device and class I to VX
>>>>>probes
>>>>>
>>>>>12 x Rapid-fire quantum torpedo tube + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>>>
>>>>>04 x Mark two heavy graviton beam
>>>>>
>>>>>06 x Direct-fire photon torpedo tubes + 500 torpedoes per tube
>>>>>
>>>>>50 x Tri-cobalt device
>>>>>
>>>>>08 x Combat tractor beam system
>>>>>
>>>>>12 x Combat transporter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Defensive armament -
>>>>>
>>>>>38 x Type 12 phaser array
>>>>>
>>>>>29 x Heavy pulse phaser cannon turret
>>>>>
>>>>>500 x Type 16 antimatter mine
>>>>>
>>>>>500 x Type 19 antimatter mine
>>>>>
>>>>>500 x Self-replicating cloaked mine
>>>>>
>>>>>24 x Class 12 holographic decoy
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I would like to see this on Graham's website so that we can compare
>>>it to other ships. I would love to see pictures. Over 80 decks! Damn
>>>I hope they have high-speed turbo lifts.
>>
>>Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerful
>>battleships? I'm only shocked that this one doesn't
>>have slipstream or transwarp drive or something.
>>
>>Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you
>>should see the four nacelled-Sovereign I came up with
>>once. But nobody ever designs a five deck science
>>vessel!
>>
>>I did actually once offer to start including fan designs
>>on the site, but nobody ever submitted any so I never got
>>the chance. I don't know if I'd do it now.
>>
>>--
>>Graham Kennedy
>
>
> I think man has always wanted to conquer the elements and
> wanted to build bigger, faster, better. Look at the QM2! I
> would love to sail on it but hate the idea of having to dress
> up to do it!
The real problem with ships like this is that they don't
really make a lot of sense. For the resources needed to
build this, you would be able to build at least a hundred
Galaxy class ships, or closer to two hundred Sovereigns.
Two hundred Sovereigns could whup a ship like this easily,
but could also do a hundred different things at once if
you wanted them to. It would be a way more flexible force
to have than one huge uber-ship.
> Anyway, this thing would be about half the size of a Borg
> Cube wouldn't it?
In length it's about the same as a cube, only fifty metres
or so shorter. In volume it would be much, much smaller.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #19828 ] |
Do, 21 April 2005 22:19 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:ZLJ9e.11330$gz2.6937 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerfulbattleships?
The USS Fearless is really a juggernaut, but since Starfleet would never
label a ship as such I chose the hull classification heavy dreadnought.
The Defiant class is a warship, but I believe it is classified as an escort,
so there is a precedent for applying "not quite so accurate" hull
classifications to Starfleet ships.
If you thought this version was powerful, you should have seen the "Terran"
upgrade - for permanent patrol near Earth.. . .
> I'm only shocked that this one doesn't have slipstream or transwarp drive
> or something.
That would just be silly : )
> Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you should see the four
> nacelled-Sovereign I came up with once.
Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
Rear Admiral Johnny
> Why must
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #19835 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 09:44 |
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Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:ZLJ9e.11330$gz2.6937 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>>Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerfulbattleships?
>
>
> The USS Fearless is really a juggernaut, but since Starfleet would never
> label a ship as such I chose the hull classification heavy dreadnought.
>
> The Defiant class is a warship, but I believe it is classified as an escort,
> so there is a precedent for applying "not quite so accurate" hull
> classifications to Starfleet ships.
I know. That's one of the reasons I invented the "Enhanced Deterrance
Explorer" label for the Sovereign - I figured they were too PC to give
proper designations to their warshippy designs.
> If you thought this version was powerful, you should have seen the "Terran"
> upgrade - for permanent patrol near Earth.. . .
I'd like to...
>>I'm only shocked that this one doesn't have slipstream or transwarp drive
>>or something.
>
>
> That would just be silly : )
>
>
>>Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you should see the four
>>nacelled-Sovereign I came up with once.
>
>
> Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
another under the aft hangar bay.
The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20319 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 19:48 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:wX1ae.14562$Pc.13326 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
>
>> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
>> news:ZLJ9e.11330$gz2.6937 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>>>Why must everybody design super-big, super-powerfulbattleships?
>>
>>
>> The USS Fearless is really a juggernaut, but since Starfleet would never
>> label a ship as such I chose the hull classification heavy dreadnought.
>>
>> The Defiant class is a warship, but I believe it is classified as an
>> escort, so there is a precedent for applying "not quite so accurate" hull
>> classifications to Starfleet ships.
>
> I know. That's one of the reasons I invented the "Enhanced Deterrance
> Explorer" label for the Sovereign - I figured they were too PC to give
> proper designations to their warshippy designs.
>
>> If you thought this version was powerful, you should have seen the
>> "Terran" upgrade - for permanent patrol near Earth.. . .
>
> I'd like to...
>
>>>I'm only shocked that this one doesn't have slipstream or transwarp drive
>>>or something.
>>
>>
>> That would just be silly : )
>>
>>
>>>Not that it isn't fun designing ships like this, you should see the four
>>>nacelled-Sovereign I came up with once.
>>
>>
>> Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
>
> No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
> a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
> core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
> Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
> bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
> another under the aft hangar bay.
>
> The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
> drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
> 15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
> combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
> Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
> plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
> hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
>
> I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
>
> --
> Graham Kennedy
Is it on the internet where we can go see it? I'd like to.
Numan
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20322 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 21:18 |
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Numan wrote:
>>>Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
>>
>>No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
>>a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
>>core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
>>Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
>>bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
>>another under the aft hangar bay.
>>
>>The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
>>drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
>>15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
>>combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
>>Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
>>plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
>>hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
>>
>>I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
>>
>>--
>>Graham Kennedy
>
>
> Is it on the internet where we can go see it? I'd like to.
Here's a pic :
http://www.ditl.org/Emperor.jpg
I don't really design a lot of Trek ships; for fun I mostly
do designs for a sci-fi universe of my own. Most of those are
truly uber - I have a battleship design that's three miles long!
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20324 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 21:30 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:wX1ae.14562$Pc.13326 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
>
>> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> I know. That's one of the reasons I invented the "Enhanced Deterrance
> Explorer" label for the Sovereign - I figured they were too PC to give
> proper designations to their warshippy designs.
"Enhanced Deterrance Explorer" - I like that one. It really fits the
Sovereign.
>> If you thought this version was powerful, you should have seen the
>> "Terran" upgrade - for permanent patrol near Earth.. . .
>
> I'd like to...
*chuckles* I've got to work on it a little more, and clean it up a bit,
when it's finished i'll be sure to send it to you.
> No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
> a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
> core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
> Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
> bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
> another under the aft hangar bay.
Very interesting, I always thought Fed ships were underpowered myself.
Yes! More quantum torp launchers! I'm sure some of that extra engineering
hull space will accommodate a larger torp magazine. The Sovereign in
"Nemesis" ran out of munitions very quickly.
> The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
> drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
> 15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
> combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
> Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
> plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
> hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
Wow, puts my ship to shame! I always liked the idea of "brilliant" missiles
like the Cardie Tactical Dreadnought. The closest I came to that was the a
holographic decoy (similar to what was seen on ST:VOY) episodes to draw away
enemy fire.
I wonder though, how does one cut neutronium hull armor?
> I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
Please, I am most curious, send it to me at john1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com
Rear Admiral Johnny
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20325 ] |
Fr, 22 April 2005 22:05 |
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Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:wX1ae.14562$Pc.13326 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>>Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
>
>
>>I know. That's one of the reasons I invented the "Enhanced Deterrance
>>Explorer" label for the Sovereign - I figured they were too PC to give
>>proper designations to their warshippy designs.
>
>
> "Enhanced Deterrance Explorer" - I like that one. It really fits the
> Sovereign.
I thought so. I came up with a bunch of others for
the different types, but none of them really sounded
as good.
>>>If you thought this version was powerful, you should have seen the
>>>"Terran" upgrade - for permanent patrol near Earth.. . .
>>
>>I'd like to...
>
>
> *chuckles* I've got to work on it a little more, and clean it up a bit,
> when it's finished i'll be sure to send it to you.
>
>
>
>>No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
>>a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
>>core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
>>Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
>>bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
>>another under the aft hangar bay.
>
>
> Very interesting, I always thought Fed ships were underpowered myself.
> Yes! More quantum torp launchers! I'm sure some of that extra engineering
> hull space will accommodate a larger torp magazine. The Sovereign in
> "Nemesis" ran out of munitions very quickly.
Indeed. I thought that was a rather humiliating thing to
have happen actually. It's one thing to have an enemy damage
you and take the weapons offline, that's always happening in
Trek. But to actually run out of weapons?
But then Trek ships have always been woefully equipped with
torpedo casings given their size. I worked out once that you
can fit 600 photons comfortably on a basketball court, so a
Galaxy or Sovereign could easily take thousands if not tens
of thousands of them.
>>The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
>>drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
>>15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
>>combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
>>Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
>>plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
>>hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
>
>
>
> Wow, puts my ship to shame! I always liked the idea of "brilliant" missiles
> like the Cardie Tactical Dreadnought. The closest I came to that was the a
> holographic decoy (similar to what was seen on ST:VOY) episodes to draw away
> enemy fire.
>
> I wonder though, how does one cut neutronium hull armor?
With great difficulty! :-)
It must be possible, if the Cardassians can make doors
out of the stuff.
>>I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
>
>
> Please, I am most curious, send it to me at john1n2w3e [at] hotmail.com
Done.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20329 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 02:04 |
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Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
> [snip]
>
>I wonder though, how does one cut neutronium hull armor?
>
>
>
Obviously with a neutronium hull armor cutter... How are diamonds cut?
With diamond... Now all we need to figure out is how to fold that armor
so it touches and it can cut itself ;-)
Erwin
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20331 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 02:16 |
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Erwin wrote:
> Rear Admiral Johnny wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> I wonder though, how does one cut neutronium hull armor?
>>
>>
>>
> Obviously with a neutronium hull armor cutter... How are diamonds cut?
> With diamond... Now all we need to figure out is how to fold that armor
> so it touches and it can cut itself ;-)
Get superman to do it...
Nah, some new type of cutter. Probably with a name that has
words like "trans" and "quantum" in it somewhere. That would
do it. :-)
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20342 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 03:49 |
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--
Numan
"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:96cae.6579$TZ6.439 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Numan wrote:
>
>>>>Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
>>>
>>>No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
>>>a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
>>>core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
>>>Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
>>>bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
>>>another under the aft hangar bay.
>>>
>>>The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
>>>drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
>>>15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
>>>combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
>>>Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
>>>plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
>>>hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
>>>
>>>I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Graham Kennedy
>>
>>
>> Is it on the internet where we can go see it? I'd like to.
>
> Here's a pic :
>
> http://www.ditl.org/Emperor.jpg
>
> I don't really design a lot of Trek ships; for fun I mostly
> do designs for a sci-fi universe of my own. Most of those are
> truly uber - I have a battleship design that's three miles long!
>
> --
> Graham Kennedy
Do you remember the HUGE ship that the Mirror Universe Worf
was commanding on DS9? That was a big ship! As a matter of
fact I think it was the biggest ship I have ever seen on Trek.
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| Re: New starship design with diagram - USS Fearless Heavy Dreadnought [message #20343 ] |
Sa, 23 April 2005 03:50 |
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--
Numan
"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:96cae.6579$TZ6.439 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Numan wrote:
>
>>>>Is it on your site? I think I'll surf over there.
>>>
>>>No, I chucked it in the end. It was basically a Sovereign with
>>>a bulked up engineering hull to accomodate a much larger warp
>>>core; four nacelles, each about a third longer than the normal
>>>Sovereign. I put another quantum launcher above and behind the
>>>bridge, another on the base of the engineering hull, and
>>>another under the aft hangar bay.
>>>
>>>The most Uber-ship I ever did was one mile long, had transwarp
>>>drive, warp drive and "Warp Hybrid Impulse" - WHIp - engines,
>>>15 Type XX phaser arrays, a heavy torpedo launcher, plus four
>>>combat drones which were more or less similar to the Cardassian
>>>Dreadnought weapon we saw in Voyager. Triple-layer shielding
>>>plus neutronium hull armour (the material was cut from the
>>>hulk of the Doomsday Machine Kirk faced).
>>>
>>>I still have that one. I can send you a pic if you like.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Graham Kennedy
>>
>>
>> Is it on the internet where we can go see it? I'd like to.
>
> Here's a pic :
>
> http://www.ditl.org/Emperor.jpg
>
> I don't really design a lot of Trek ships; for fun I mostly
> do designs for a sci-fi universe of my own. Most of those are
> truly uber - I have a battleship design that's three miles long!
>
> --
> Graham Kennedy
Very cool.
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