| Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224702] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 05:59 |
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My newsreader just crashed when I tried to send a lengthy post about the
wind ensemble arrangement of Envelopes. I'm too lazy to type it again,
so here's the short version...
Does anyone have the Songs & Dances album by the Cincinnati Wind
Symphony? What does it say about the arrangement of Envelopes? Was it
commissioned by the Netherlands Wind Ensemble, or was that just Dog/Meat?
--Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224710 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 19:51 |
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from the liner notes:
Envelopes is a dark, brooding work full of thickly-voiced dissonances
and chromatic melodies.
Envelopes (1978) 03:55
Uwe
Charles Ulrich schrieb:
> My newsreader just crashed when I tried to send a lengthy post about the
> wind ensemble arrangement of Envelopes. I'm too lazy to type it again,
> so here's the short version...
>
> Does anyone have the Songs & Dances album by the Cincinnati Wind
> Symphony? What does it say about the arrangement of Envelopes? Was it
> commissioned by the Netherlands Wind Ensemble, or was that just Dog/Meat?
>
> --Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224713 ] |
Do, 23 Februar 2006 22:25 |
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Charles Ulrich wrote:
> My newsreader just crashed when I tried to send a lengthy post about the
> wind ensemble arrangement of Envelopes. I'm too lazy to type it again,
> so here's the short version...
>
> Does anyone have the Songs & Dances album by the Cincinnati Wind
> Symphony? What does it say about the arrangement of Envelopes? Was it
> commissioned by the Netherlands Wind Ensemble, or was that just Dog/Meat?
>
> --Charles
I think the public library in Alliance, OH (about 20 minutes away)
actually still has that album on CD (their whole CD collection is
atrocious, save for a couple of Stravinsky albums). If no one else
manages to answer this for you, I'll see if I can look into it.
--
Milhouse Guidry of the mWo
Sometime king of alt.pro-wrestling.dx
I have to pick up a frickin' pie at nine in the morning.
"I apologize and recognize the validity of your argument."
--"Whit Sterling", in one of the more absurdly unlikely
statements in the history of Usenet.
mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224720 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 01:52 |
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In article <dtl077$g0a$1 [at] online.de>,
Uwe Kruger <uwejh.krueger [at] online.de> wrote:
> from the liner notes:
> Envelopes is a dark, brooding work full of thickly-voiced dissonances
> and chromatic melodies.
>
> Envelopes (1978) 03:55
Thanks.
Two follow-up questions:
Do they credit an arranger for either of the Zappa compositions?
Do they mention the Netherlands Wind Ensemble in connection with
Dog/Meat?
--Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224725 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 14:50 |
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In article <466ne3F9ot1nU1 [at] individual.net>, Milhouse Authentico
<milhouse_on_a_stick [at] derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
> I think the public library in Alliance, OH (about 20 minutes away)
> actually still has that album on CD (their whole CD collection is
> atrocious, save for a couple of Stravinsky albums). If no one else
> manages to answer this for you, I'll see if I can look into it.
Just to make this more complicated, "Songs and Dances"
was released twice - in 1992, on Mark Records MCD-1116, and
in 1995 on Klavier Records KCD 11066.
We have both of these in our Fine Arts Library, 10 minutes
from here, but the Klavier edition is presently checked out.
I'll either try to go over there or get a friend to look it up
for me, if he'll cooperate.
The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
John Henley
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224726 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 17:11 |
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Charles Ulrich schrieb:
> In article <dtl077$g0a$1 [at] online.de>,
> Uwe Kruger <uwejh.krueger [at] online.de> wrote:
>
>
>>from the liner notes:
>>Envelopes is a dark, brooding work full of thickly-voiced dissonances
>>and chromatic melodies.
>>
>>Envelopes (1978) 03:55
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Two follow-up questions:
>
> Do they credit an arranger for either of the Zappa compositions?
No
>
> Do they mention the Netherlands Wind Ensemble in connection with
> Dog/Meat?
Yes
>
> --Charles
Uwe
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224728 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:50 |
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In article <dtnb70$onf$1 [at] online.de>,
Uwe Kruger <uwejh.krueger [at] online.de> wrote:
> Charles Ulrich schrieb:
> >
> > Do they credit an arranger for either of the Zappa compositions?
>
> No
So perhaps it's FZ's own arrangement, but the evidence is not conclusive.
Does anyone have the sheet music (formerly available from Barfko-Swill)
for the wind ensemble arrangement of Envelopes?
> > Do they mention the Netherlands Wind Ensemble in connection with
> > Dog/Meat?
>
> Yes
So the writer of the AMG blurb for Envelopes presumably just got
confused.
--Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224729 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:55 |
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In article <240220060750420138%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu>,
John Henley <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> In article <466ne3F9ot1nU1 [at] individual.net>, Milhouse Authentico
> <milhouse_on_a_stick [at] derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
>
> > I think the public library in Alliance, OH (about 20 minutes away)
> > actually still has that album on CD (their whole CD collection is
> > atrocious, save for a couple of Stravinsky albums). If no one else
> > manages to answer this for you, I'll see if I can look into it.
>
> Just to make this more complicated, "Songs and Dances"
> was released twice - in 1992, on Mark Records MCD-1116, and
> in 1995 on Klavier Records KCD 11066.
>
> We have both of these in our Fine Arts Library, 10 minutes
> from here, but the Klavier edition is presently checked out.
> I'll either try to go over there or get a friend to look it up
> for me, if he'll cooperate.
>
> The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
> College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
On the cover of the Klavier edition (as reproduced in Russo's Cosmik
Debris), it appears as CINCINNATI College Conservatory of Music WIND
SYMPHONY.
--Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224732 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 21:37 |
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In article <ulrich-FDE195.10561124022006 [at] shawnews>, Charles Ulrich
<ulrich [at] sfu.ca> wrote:
> In article <240220060750420138%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu>,
> John Henley <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> > The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
> > College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
>
> On the cover of the Klavier edition (as reproduced in Russo's Cosmik
> Debris), it appears as CINCINNATI College Conservatory of Music WIND
> SYMPHONY.
Wind Symphony, not Ensemble. My mistake. And
Cincinnati is a name I've always had trouble with.
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224733 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 22:23 |
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In article <240220061437514396%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu>,
John Henley <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> In article <ulrich-FDE195.10561124022006 [at] shawnews>, Charles Ulrich
> <ulrich [at] sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > In article <240220060750420138%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu>,
> > John Henley <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> > > The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
> > > College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
> >
> > On the cover of the Klavier edition (as reproduced in Russo's Cosmik
> > Debris), it appears as CINCINNATI College Conservatory of Music WIND
> > SYMPHONY.
>
> Wind Symphony, not Ensemble. My mistake. And
> Cincinnati is a name I've always had trouble with.
I hadn't even noticed that you misspelled it. I wrote it in all caps
because that's how it appeared on the cover!
Anyway, College Conservatory is somewhat less cumbersome than University
College Conservatory...
--Charles
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224743 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 23:44 |
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In article <ulrich-B626BE.10515424022006 [at] shawnews>, Charles Ulrich
<ulrich [at] sfu.ca> writes
>In article <dtnb70$onf$1 [at] online.de>,
> Uwe Kruger <uwejh.krueger [at] online.de> wrote:
>
>> Charles Ulrich schrieb:
>> >
>> > Do they credit an arranger for either of the Zappa compositions?
>>
>> No
>
>So perhaps it's FZ's own arrangement, but the evidence is not conclusive.
>
>Does anyone have the sheet music (formerly available from Barfko-Swill)
>for the wind ensemble arrangement of Envelopes?
It's quite common to be given permission to arrange pieces on condition
that all credit remains with the copyright holder - i.e. you can't
credit yourself as arranger.
--
Chris West
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224767 ] |
Mo, 27 Februar 2006 12:28 |
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"John Henley" <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:240220060750420138%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu...
> In article <466ne3F9ot1nU1 [at] individual.net>, Milhouse Authentico
> <milhouse_on_a_stick [at] derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
>
>> I think the public library in Alliance, OH (about 20 minutes away)
>> actually still has that album on CD (their whole CD collection is
>> atrocious, save for a couple of Stravinsky albums). If no one else
>> manages to answer this for you, I'll see if I can look into it.
>
> Just to make this more complicated, "Songs and Dances"
> was released twice - in 1992, on Mark Records MCD-1116, and
> in 1995 on Klavier Records KCD 11066.
>
> We have both of these in our Fine Arts Library, 10 minutes
> from here, but the Klavier edition is presently checked out.
> I'll either try to go over there or get a friend to look it up
> for me, if he'll cooperate.
>
> The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
> College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
>
> John Henley
Or UC CCM Wind Ensemble.
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #224768 ] |
Mo, 27 Februar 2006 12:33 |
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"computeruser" <cyrano69 [at] juno.com> wrote in message
news:84066$4402e277$4831792c$14289 [at] FUSE.NET...
> "John Henley" <jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
> news:240220060750420138%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu...
>> In article <466ne3F9ot1nU1 [at] individual.net>, Milhouse Authentico
>> <milhouse_on_a_stick [at] derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the public library in Alliance, OH (about 20 minutes away)
>>> actually still has that album on CD (their whole CD collection is
>>> atrocious, save for a couple of Stravinsky albums). If no one else
>>> manages to answer this for you, I'll see if I can look into it.
>>
>> Just to make this more complicated, "Songs and Dances"
>> was released twice - in 1992, on Mark Records MCD-1116, and
>> in 1995 on Klavier Records KCD 11066.
>>
>> We have both of these in our Fine Arts Library, 10 minutes
>> from here, but the Klavier edition is presently checked out.
>> I'll either try to go over there or get a friend to look it up
>> for me, if he'll cooperate.
>>
>> The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
>> College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
>>
>> John Henley
>
> Or UC CCM Wind Symphony.
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| Re: Envelopes for wind ensemble [message #254211 ] |
Sa, 22 April 2006 20:49 |
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In article <240220060750420138%jhen... [at] mail.utexas.edu>,
John Henley <jhen... [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> The actual name of the ensemble is University of Cincinnatti
> College Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble. Yeesh.
This institution came up again (as Art Tripp's alma mater), so I looked
into their unwieldy name.
From <http://www.ccm.uc.edu/about/faq.aspx>:
> Why is there a hyphen in your College's name?
>
> The College of Music of Cincinnati and the Cincinnati Conservatory of
> Music merged in August 1955 to become the Cincinnati
> College-Conservatory of Music. On August 1, 1962 the
> College-Conservatory of Music became the fourteenth college at the
> University of Cincinnati.
--Charles
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