| Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220447] |
So, 19 Februar 2006 23:35 |
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I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220448 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 01:01 |
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Me
<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220450 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 01:24 |
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allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220451 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 01:48 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>
Agree
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220452 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 02:15 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>
Didn't much like Seven personally. Of the women, I found Torres much more
watchable. Better actress, better character, better looking. Just MPO.
Ian
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220453 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 02:35 |
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220454 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 02:45 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
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> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> > I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> > Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>
> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
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Kweeg
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220455 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 15:52 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>
No way. Tuvok rules.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220456 ] |
Mo, 20 Februar 2006 23:01 |
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I just like the fact that Seven's character was interesting and
well-acted by Jeri Ryan. Of course, she was good to look at too.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220457 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 00:15 |
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Kweeg wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:9_7Kf.602$e8.1279 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
>> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>>> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
>>> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>>
>> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
Yup.
Only at the end those characters started to have less appeal. Specially
Holodoc.
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> I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
Together with Harry Kim.
Kes solo was nice too imo.
And I repeat *SOLO*
With a needed Neelixcitis.
But at the end Voyager (that did have some very nice moments in the middle
seasons)... Well, it went totally downhill.
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Wouter Valentijn
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www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
"The world that denies thee, thou inhabit.
The peace that ignores thee, thou corrupt.
Chaos. I remain, as ever, thy faithful, degenerate son."
Ethan Rayne, 'Halloween' (Buffy The Vampire Slayer)
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220458 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 00:23 |
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Kweeg wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:9_7Kf.602$e8.1279 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
>> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>>> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
>>> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
>
> I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
Then B'Elanna.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220459 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 01:53 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
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> Kweeg wrote:
> > "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> > news:9_7Kf.602$e8.1279 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
> >> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> >>> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
> >> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
> >
> > I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
>
> Then B'Elanna.
Then:
Tom Paris (had all the makings of a good character but the ball musta got
dropped)
Janeway (could have been a good character, reminded me of Kirk in the fist
few eps, again the ball musta got dropped)
TIE: Kim, Kes, Chakotay (most boring)
Neelix (most annoying) The only time I actually like him was after he
destroys Tuvok's quarters after the session with the Klingon woman Ch'Rega
in "Prophecy." If Neelix was done right he be allot like Phlox from ENT.
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
"So say we all!"
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220460 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 02:14 |
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I agree with you. My agreeance is due to 2 things:
1. Seven of Nine is a good character
2. The other characters, as my Yiddish grandmother would say, SUCK BIG TIME.
<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220461 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 04:18 |
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:14:29 -0500, "Benjamin Pavsner"
<pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
Seven of Nine is a good character
As a concept, the character of 7 of 9 just never worked for me.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220463 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 21:34 |
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Kweeg wrote:
>
> Then:
> Tom Paris (had all the makings of a good character but the ball musta got
> dropped)
Yeah, I always thought Tom Paris was like a young Kirk,
only where Kirk's reckless gambles paid off big, Paris's
big gamble turned round and kicked him where it hurt.
But they couldn't keep playing him like a young Kirk,
because a young Kirk would have outshone Janeway too
much. So they fixed his rebellious streak, but made him
bland and average as well.
> Janeway (could have been a good character, reminded me of Kirk in the fist
> few eps, again the ball musta got dropped)
Ah, I never thought of Janeway as Kirk-like. And she was
too damn inconsistent in her attitude. When she told
Ransom she never really broke the rules, I spent a good
five minutes laughing my ass off.
> TIE: Kim, Kes, Chakotay (most boring)
Chakotay especially. In the Voyager series that ran in
my head he was *soooo* much cooler. My imaginary Chakotay
was a total self-serving bastard who spent his time playing
up to both the Maquis and Janeway, trying to make sure that
whoever won out on Voyager it wouldn't hurt him either way.
Agree with Kes and Kim though. Kes especially. They designed
the whole character around the concept of drastically
short lifespan, and then never did anything with it! I
especially hated the Elogium episode. Making the whole
thing some weird "false Elogium" totally ruined it. Why
not just say that she goes through Ocampa-menopause at
age three, and have her make the decision for real then
live with the consequences?
> Neelix (most annoying) The only time I actually like him was after he
> destroys Tuvok's quarters after the session with the Klingon woman Ch'Rega
> in "Prophecy." If Neelix was done right he be allot like Phlox from ENT.
Ah, I always liked Neelix. After all the "violent species"
and "stuffy academic species" and "deeply religious people"
types, it was a great thing for me to see a species who
actually liked having FUN!
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220464 ] |
Di, 21 Februar 2006 23:01 |
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"Wouter Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote in message
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>>>> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>>>
>>> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
>> I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
> Together with Harry Kim.
>
> Kes solo was nice too imo.
> And I repeat *SOLO*
> With a needed Neelixcitis.
You mean "Neelix-ectomy".
I agree. The grown up hair style Kes, not the childlike crop.
My first choice would be Doc and then the Paris and Kim stuff,
except the Captain Proton drivel.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220481 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 20:19 |
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"VernonT" <hoopestv [at] silverstar.com> schreef in bericht
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> "Wouter Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote in message
> news:43fa4d8e$0$11065$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl...
>>>>> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
>>>>
>>>> Toss up between Seven and the EMH, IMHO.
>
>
>>> I would concur. Tuvok being a close second after those two.
>
>> Together with Harry Kim.
>>
>> Kes solo was nice too imo.
>> And I repeat *SOLO*
>> With a needed Neelixcitis.
>
> You mean "Neelix-ectomy".
O yeah, thanks.
> I agree. The grown up hair style Kes, not the childlike crop.
>
> My first choice would be Doc and then the Paris and Kim stuff,
> except the Captain Proton drivel.
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>
<shivers>
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Wouter Valentijn
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www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
"The world that denies thee, thou inhabit.
The peace that ignores thee, thou corrupt.
Chaos. I remain, as ever, thy faithful, degenerate son."
Ethan Rayne, 'Halloween' (Buffy The Vampire Slayer)
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220483 ] |
Mi, 22 Februar 2006 21:52 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just watched the Voyager episode "One." It proved to me one thing:
> Seven is the best character on Voyager. Who agrees with me on that?
I agree with you! Her and the doctor were my favorites.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220549 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 18:16 |
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That's probably due to one thing: up until season three, Voyager's ratings
were, shall I say, not terribly inspiring. Berman and Co. needed to bring
something to save the franchise. Nothing beats a hottie in a skin tight
jumpsuit for Trekgeeks around the Quadrent to...er..spank their Aldarian
Monkeys to and boost testosterone levels, as well as ratings. Tried the same
with Enterprise ( I don't think Berman was thinking in terms of Blalock
being the next Meryl Streep, if you catch my drift).
"The Merry Piper"
<merry_piper_YOUR [at] COATyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:14:29 -0500, "Benjamin Pavsner"
> <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Seven of Nine is a good character
>
> As a concept, the character of 7 of 9 just never worked for me.
>
> --
> The Merry Piper
> [http://tmpiper.livejournal.com]
> If you want to dance, you'll have to pay ... me!
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220551 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 19:37 |
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Benjamin Pavsner wrote:
> "The Merry Piper"
> <merry_piper_YOUR [at] COATyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3h1lv1tsj4acnuju33bq49evk2j8frtt97 [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:14:29 -0500, "Benjamin Pavsner"
>> <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Seven of Nine is a good character
>>
>> As a concept, the character of 7 of 9 just never worked for me.
>>
> That's probably due to one thing: up until season three, Voyager's
> ratings were, shall I say, not terribly inspiring. Berman and Co.
> needed to bring something to save the franchise. Nothing beats a
> hottie in a skin tight jumpsuit for Trekgeeks around the Quadrent
> to...er..spank their Aldarian Monkeys to and boost testosterone
> levels, as well as ratings. Tried the same with Enterprise ( I don't
> think Berman was thinking in terms of Blalock being the next Meryl
> Streep, if you catch my drift).
>
I understand.
They wanted to avoid a salt vampire repeat.
--
Wouter Valentijn
www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
"The world that denies thee, thou inhabit.
The peace that ignores thee, thou corrupt.
Chaos. I remain, as ever, thy faithful, degenerate son."
Ethan Rayne, 'Halloween' (Buffy The Vampire Slayer)
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220557 ] |
Fr, 24 Februar 2006 23:42 |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:16:43 -0500, "Benjamin Pavsner"
<pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>That's probably due to one thing: up until season three, Voyager's ratings
>were, shall I say, not terribly inspiring. Berman and Co. needed to bring
>something to save the franchise. Nothing beats a hottie in a skin tight
>jumpsuit for Trekgeeks around the Quadrent to...er..spank their Aldarian
>Monkeys to and boost testosterone levels, as well as ratings. Tried the same
>with Enterprise ( I don't think Berman was thinking in terms of Blalock
>being the next Meryl Streep, if you catch my drift).
There is no statistically significant difference in the ratings before 7 of
9 and after 7 of 9. There was IIRC a sudden peak of interest around the
time of Scorpion, but that didn't last. The Voyager newsgroup has
specifics.
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220582 ] |
Mo, 27 Februar 2006 01:58 |
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"Benjamin Pavsner" <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> That's probably due to one thing: up until season three, Voyager's ratings
> were, shall I say, not terribly inspiring. Berman and Co. needed to bring
> something to save the franchise. Nothing beats a hottie in a skin tight
> jumpsuit for Trekgeeks around the Quadrent to...er..spank their Aldarian
> Monkeys to and boost testosterone levels, as well as ratings. Tried the
same
> with Enterprise ( I don't think Berman was thinking in terms of Blalock
> being the next Meryl Streep, if you catch my drift).
>
> "The Merry Piper"
Am I the only one that loved Blalock's Vulcan portrayal? I thought she was
right behind Spock and Tuvok as the best Vulcans ever.
--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
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| Re: Just watched a cool VOY Episode [message #220585 ] |
Mo, 27 Februar 2006 16:09 |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:58:30 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:
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>"Benjamin Pavsner" <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:Z8HLf.29405$Ly6.16149 [at] bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> That's probably due to one thing: up until season three, Voyager's ratings
>> were, shall I say, not terribly inspiring. Berman and Co. needed to bring
>> something to save the franchise. Nothing beats a hottie in a skin tight
>> jumpsuit for Trekgeeks around the Quadrent to...er..spank their Aldarian
>> Monkeys to and boost testosterone levels, as well as ratings. Tried the
>same
>> with Enterprise ( I don't think Berman was thinking in terms of Blalock
>> being the next Meryl Streep, if you catch my drift).
>>
>> "The Merry Piper"
>
> Am I the only one that loved Blalock's Vulcan portrayal? I thought she was
>right behind Spock and Tuvok as the best Vulcans ever.
Though it would appear to the casual readier I'm quoted in the quote
above -- I didn't say any of that. My only post in this particular
thread was about a different character.
That's all. No big deal, I merely wanted to clarify.
--
The Merry Piper
[http://tmpiper.livejournal.com]
If you want to dance, you'll have to pay ... me!
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