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Our purpose is to ventilate the issue [message #215592] Do, 02 Februar 2006 17:04
John Henley  
Here's an article that appeared 2/2/06 in the
Washington Post about former Sen. John "Porn
Wars" Danforth. Y'all remember him, right?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02 /01/AR200602
0102393.html



John Henley
Re: Our purpose is to ventilate the issue [message #215622 ] Fr, 03 Februar 2006 23:50
Les Cargill  
John Henley wrote:
> Here's an article that appeared 2/2/06 in the
> Washington Post about former Sen. John "Porn
> Wars" Danforth. Y'all remember him, right?
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02 /01/AR200602
> 0102393.html
>
>
>
> John Henley

Yeah, but how in the world does *any* politician
talk about dumbness that way without breaking down
in fits o' giggles?

The polarizations *are* the point. Those who choose
not to play will simply be out of the game. How is
it possible that things will change in any other
way? "Anybody wouldn't cheat cuttin' cards
for a poke don't want one very bad" - Augustus
McCrae, "Lonesome Dove".

Don't kid yourself - *both* sides have evolved into
thinking they're the persecuted party. There's a
total and complete loss of perspective. I know a
couple of evangelical Christians, who are constantly
fed a diet of disinformation - that they are under
attack from the general culture. Part of that is
the text of some of the Gospels, from when Christians
*were* under attack. Part of is the general
Romanness of the culture itself.

We see here, and other places, that folks who
subscribe to ideas from before 1980 feel under
assault.

Why? Because the TeeVee tells them so. TeeVee works
like this - it modulates people's stress levels
to where the commercials can work at optimum.
The programs add stress, the commercials releive them.

The other side is the "content owners". They wield
100% of the power in that domain. They dictate
completely to channel owners and end subscribers
(as does the ZFT). You want ESPN, Cable Company?
You'll take these other 100 channels to go with
it. This would be just fine, but the barrier
to entry for new material is getting higher
and higher. This means a rising tide of increasingly
mediocre material, as command and control of content
providers is more and more (badly) measured and
committee-ized.

Since TeeVee is now the only remaining Universal thing,
all other forms of communications must use the same
basic mechanisms, or nobody will listen.

And I submit that it cannot be fixed. It'll just
get weirder, and weirder, and weirder...

When Paddy Chaefsky wrote Howard Beale into "Network",
he *really* knew what he was doing. *Really* knew.

--
Les Cargill
Re: Our purpose is to ventilate the issue [message #215624 ] Sa, 04 Februar 2006 02:20
Dan Rowan  
Les Cargill <lNOcargill [at] cfl.Arr.com> wrote in news:v6REf.7808$g47.4857
[at] tornado.tampabay.rr.com:

> John Henley wrote:
>> Here's an article that appeared 2/2/06 in the
>> Washington Post about former Sen. John "Porn
>> Wars" Danforth. Y'all remember him, right?
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2006/02/01/AR200602
>> 0102393.html
>>
>>
>>
>> John Henley
>
> Yeah, but how in the world does *any* politician
> talk about dumbness that way without breaking down
> in fits o' giggles?
>
> The polarizations *are* the point. Those who choose
> not to play will simply be out of the game. How is
> it possible that things will change in any other
> way? "Anybody wouldn't cheat cuttin' cards
> for a poke don't want one very bad" - Augustus
> McCrae, "Lonesome Dove".
>
> Don't kid yourself - *both* sides have evolved into
> thinking they're the persecuted party. There's a
> total and complete loss of perspective. I know a
> couple of evangelical Christians, who are constantly
> fed a diet of disinformation - that they are under
> attack from the general culture. Part of that is
> the text of some of the Gospels, from when Christians
> *were* under attack. Part of is the general
> Romanness of the culture itself.
>
> We see here, and other places, that folks who
> subscribe to ideas from before 1980 feel under
> assault.
>
> Why? Because the TeeVee tells them so. TeeVee works
> like this - it modulates people's stress levels
> to where the commercials can work at optimum.
> The programs add stress, the commercials releive them.
>
> The other side is the "content owners". They wield
> 100% of the power in that domain. They dictate
> completely to channel owners and end subscribers
> (as does the ZFT). You want ESPN, Cable Company?
> You'll take these other 100 channels to go with
> it. This would be just fine, but the barrier
> to entry for new material is getting higher
> and higher. This means a rising tide of increasingly
> mediocre material, as command and control of content
> providers is more and more (badly) measured and
> committee-ized.
>
> Since TeeVee is now the only remaining Universal thing,
> all other forms of communications must use the same
> basic mechanisms, or nobody will listen.
>
> And I submit that it cannot be fixed. It'll just
> get weirder, and weirder, and weirder...
>
> When Paddy Chaefsky wrote Howard Beale into "Network",
> he *really* knew what he was doing. *Really* knew.
>
> --
> Les Cargill
>
Wow. That's some heavy shit. I've had all I can stand and I'm not gonna
take it any more.
Re: Our purpose is to ventilate the issue [message #215657 ] Mo, 06 Februar 2006 05:52
espinoza  
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:50:03 GMT, Les Cargill <lNOcargill [at] cfl.Arr.com>
wrote:

>John Henley wrote:
>> Here's an article that appeared 2/2/06 in the
>> Washington Post about former Sen. John "Porn
>> Wars" Danforth. Y'all remember him, right?
>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02 /01/AR200602
>> 0102393.html
>>
>>
>>
>> John Henley
>
>Yeah, but how in the world does *any* politician
>talk about dumbness that way without breaking down
>in fits o' giggles?
>
>The polarizations *are* the point. Those who choose
>not to play will simply be out of the game. How is
>it possible that things will change in any other
>way? "Anybody wouldn't cheat cuttin' cards
>for a poke don't want one very bad" - Augustus
>McCrae, "Lonesome Dove".
>
>Don't kid yourself - *both* sides have evolved into
>thinking they're the persecuted party. There's a
>total and complete loss of perspective. I know a
>couple of evangelical Christians, who are constantly
>fed a diet of disinformation - that they are under
>attack from the general culture. Part of that is
>the text of some of the Gospels, from when Christians
>*were* under attack. Part of is the general
>Romanness of the culture itself.
>
>We see here, and other places, that folks who
>subscribe to ideas from before 1980 feel under
>assault.
>
>Why? Because the TeeVee tells them so. TeeVee works
>like this - it modulates people's stress levels
>to where the commercials can work at optimum.
>The programs add stress, the commercials releive them.
>
>The other side is the "content owners". They wield
>100% of the power in that domain. They dictate
>completely to channel owners and end subscribers
>(as does the ZFT). You want ESPN, Cable Company?
>You'll take these other 100 channels to go with
>it. This would be just fine, but the barrier
>to entry for new material is getting higher
>and higher. This means a rising tide of increasingly
>mediocre material, as command and control of content
>providers is more and more (badly) measured and
>committee-ized.
>
>Since TeeVee is now the only remaining Universal thing,
>all other forms of communications must use the same
>basic mechanisms, or nobody will listen.
>
>And I submit that it cannot be fixed. It'll just
>get weirder, and weirder, and weirder...
>
>When Paddy Chaefsky wrote Howard Beale into "Network",
>he *really* knew what he was doing. *Really* knew.

All of this is very true. What compounds this is the bandwagon
effect. Everybody feels like they have to be on one side or another.
Those of us who refuse to take sides are criticized as being
indecisive because we don't pick one side or the other, as if that
would be the rational thing to do. When we tell them that we can't
pick a side because neither side represents our principles, we are
either not believed or simply seen as weird.

I just hope this country never gets to the point where I end up either
in jail or in another country for having the nerve to assert my
liberty.
--
Mike E.
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