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Off-Duty Imperials [message #213168] Fr, 03 Februar 2006 19:53
Ears  
I am interested in the lives of the solders when off duty, none of the
stuff from the movies or EU for that matter tells you anything about
quarters or how they lived and had fun.

For the Empire not to provide any entertainment would just be silly
and dangerous.

For Stormtroopers its pretty easy to imagine, they probably live in
huge barracks with a cot to sleep on, a locker with a few square feet
for personal stuff and a mass bathroom. There were hints in the EU
that the Empire had state sponsored brothels to keep them happy in
that respect and in one of the Cross-Section books the showed a huge
empty space on the Death Star that had no gravity where Stormtroopers
would go to play violent prohibited sports. So when they aren't on
duty you keep them focused more or less on those things.

But for the higher ranking officers you'd have to get a little more
creative. I mean, supposedly the higher ranking you got, the more
privileges you were supposed to have.

Aboard Star Destroyers the quarters were probably pretty compact up
the chain of command. It makes me wonder if they stuck to that same
philospohy on the Death Star, the one thing they had there was room.

If stationed at a planetside garrison I would suppose that some of the
officers would live within the garrision and some might live out in
the city, possibly even with their familes.

I read somewhere that there was a small civilian population about Star
Destroyers so I would think that some officers might bring their
families there.

I am interested in opinions in how they lived, let me know what you
think.

Ears
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213170 ] Sa, 04 Februar 2006 00:35
Anybody  
In article <vq87u11eqserhgrs7qnjaug777sko4iv02 [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
<ears [at] not.com> wrote:
>
> I read somewhere that there was a small civilian population about Star
> Destroyers so I would think that some officers might bring their
> families there.

I don't know where you read that, but I would be extremely doubtful
that families are brought along for the ride on Imperial Star
Destroyers (or any other military vehilce I can think of for that
matter).

There are possibly some non-military people on the Star Destroyer who
are there for a good purpose - or at least a "good" purpose as far as
the Empire is concerned. For example, the Emperor's advisors won't be
part of the military ranks, but they are part of the Emperor's
entourage and so some probably do travel with him.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213171 ] Sa, 04 Februar 2006 03:00
Ears  
>I don't know where you read that, but I would be extremely doubtful
>that families are brought along for the ride on Imperial Star
>Destroyers (or any other military vehilce I can think of for that
>matter).
>
>There are possibly some non-military people on the Star Destroyer who
>are there for a good purpose - or at least a "good" purpose as far as
>the Empire is concerned. For example, the Emperor's advisors won't be
>part of the military ranks, but they are part of the Emperor's
>entourage and so some probably do travel with him.


Any military has the same issue: Morale. Any military that feels
they can do without it on an extended basis will either deteriorate or
just plain revolt.

There are exceptions of course, the Imperials at Maw Installation had
only what they went in there with for 10 years, but Dalla kept them on
edge.

Like any military force I'm sure you have civilian assets, not every
function is performed my military personnel. By that same token you
are right about 'good' purposes.

But in a society like the Empire where there is not much of a
distinction between Military and Civil authority it would make sense
that their ships would follow the same philosophy.

After all, almost all the highest authority on a planet was the
Imperial Governor and he's might as well be a military authority.

So would Star Destroyer's have regular passengers probably not, but
they probably would have a small civilian population, using families
for that purpose could only improve morale.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213174 ] Sa, 04 Februar 2006 06:20
Anybody  
In article <nhq7u1ddfavrrs6n79o5os7rbu6eb22jb7 [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
<ears [at] not.com> wrote:

> >I don't know where you read that, but I would be extremely doubtful
> >that families are brought along for the ride on Imperial Star
> >Destroyers (or any other military vehilce I can think of for that
> >matter).
> >
> >There are possibly some non-military people on the Star Destroyer who
> >are there for a good purpose - or at least a "good" purpose as far as
> >the Empire is concerned. For example, the Emperor's advisors won't be
> >part of the military ranks, but they are part of the Emperor's
> >entourage and so some probably do travel with him.
>
> Any military has the same issue: Morale. Any military that feels
> they can do without it on an extended basis will either deteriorate or
> just plain revolt.
>
> There are exceptions of course, the Imperials at Maw Installation had
> only what they went in there with for 10 years, but Dalla kept them on
> edge.
>
> Like any military force I'm sure you have civilian assets, not every
> function is performed my military personnel. By that same token you
> are right about 'good' purposes.
>
> But in a society like the Empire where there is not much of a
> distinction between Military and Civil authority it would make sense
> that their ships would follow the same philosophy.
>
> After all, almost all the highest authority on a planet was the
> Imperial Governor and he's might as well be a military authority.
>
> So would Star Destroyer's have regular passengers probably not, but
> they probably would have a small civilian population, using families
> for that purpose could only improve morale.

There's no military on Earth or any fiction I can think of that has
families along for the ride on aircraft carriers, etc. It's far too
dnergous for a start. The Empire would be no different, and in fact due
to the Emperor's lack of caring about his forces "morale", is even less
likely to allow such things. Some of them may have families living back
at / nearby a "home base", but it's extremely doubful they'd be allowed
to travel on the Star Destroyers or Death Star.

The only thing that comes close is the Star Trek ships in The Next
Generation and Voyager, but then those aren't part of a proper military
force.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213175 ] Sa, 04 Februar 2006 20:03
Dennis E Strausser Jr  
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:040220061820191152%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <nhq7u1ddfavrrs6n79o5os7rbu6eb22jb7 [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
> <ears [at] not.com> wrote:
>
>> >I don't know where you read that, but I would be extremely doubtful
>> >that families are brought along for the ride on Imperial Star
>> >Destroyers (or any other military vehilce I can think of for that
>> >matter).
>> >
>> >There are possibly some non-military people on the Star Destroyer who
>> >are there for a good purpose - or at least a "good" purpose as far as
>> >the Empire is concerned. For example, the Emperor's advisors won't be
>> >part of the military ranks, but they are part of the Emperor's
>> >entourage and so some probably do travel with him.
>>
>> Any military has the same issue: Morale. Any military that feels
>> they can do without it on an extended basis will either deteriorate or
>> just plain revolt.
>>
>> There are exceptions of course, the Imperials at Maw Installation had
>> only what they went in there with for 10 years, but Dalla kept them on
>> edge.
>>
>> Like any military force I'm sure you have civilian assets, not every
>> function is performed my military personnel. By that same token you
>> are right about 'good' purposes.
>>
>> But in a society like the Empire where there is not much of a
>> distinction between Military and Civil authority it would make sense
>> that their ships would follow the same philosophy.
>>
>> After all, almost all the highest authority on a planet was the
>> Imperial Governor and he's might as well be a military authority.
>>
>> So would Star Destroyer's have regular passengers probably not, but
>> they probably would have a small civilian population, using families
>> for that purpose could only improve morale.
>
> There's no military on Earth or any fiction I can think of that has
> families along for the ride on aircraft carriers, etc. It's far too
> dnergous for a start. The Empire would be no different, and in fact due
> to the Emperor's lack of caring about his forces "morale", is even less
> likely to allow such things. Some of them may have families living back
> at / nearby a "home base", but it's extremely doubful they'd be allowed
> to travel on the Star Destroyers or Death Star.
>
> The only thing that comes close is the Star Trek ships in The Next
> Generation and Voyager, but then those aren't part of a proper military
> force.
That far in to the future, that may be the way a proper military force
works.
Many people, out in space, for over 10 Years [at] a time, and mixed genders,
someone's going to sleep together.
It's just nature that someone is going to end up having sex.
So you have to be prepared for something like that.
For that fact, you have to be prepared for almost anything.
Your out in space, for ? amount of time, many things could happen.
There's also times in the series when they don't even see other ships
for months time.

How bout this, we put you in a ship, with a mix of genders, for 10 + or
? years, and lets see you not sleep with any one.
STNG Might just be tomorrow's Proper Military Standard.

Denny. ;-) :-)
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213190 ] So, 05 Februar 2006 00:04
Anybody  
In article <k4CdndVYWNvyZ3neRVn-ig [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:040220061820191152%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> > In article <nhq7u1ddfavrrs6n79o5os7rbu6eb22jb7 [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
> > <ears [at] not.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >I don't know where you read that, but I would be extremely doubtful
> >> >that families are brought along for the ride on Imperial Star
> >> >Destroyers (or any other military vehilce I can think of for that
> >> >matter).
> >> >
> >> >There are possibly some non-military people on the Star Destroyer who
> >> >are there for a good purpose - or at least a "good" purpose as far as
> >> >the Empire is concerned. For example, the Emperor's advisors won't be
> >> >part of the military ranks, but they are part of the Emperor's
> >> >entourage and so some probably do travel with him.
> >>
> >> Any military has the same issue: Morale. Any military that feels
> >> they can do without it on an extended basis will either deteriorate or
> >> just plain revolt.
> >>
> >> There are exceptions of course, the Imperials at Maw Installation had
> >> only what they went in there with for 10 years, but Dalla kept them on
> >> edge.
> >>
> >> Like any military force I'm sure you have civilian assets, not every
> >> function is performed my military personnel. By that same token you
> >> are right about 'good' purposes.
> >>
> >> But in a society like the Empire where there is not much of a
> >> distinction between Military and Civil authority it would make sense
> >> that their ships would follow the same philosophy.
> >>
> >> After all, almost all the highest authority on a planet was the
> >> Imperial Governor and he's might as well be a military authority.
> >>
> >> So would Star Destroyer's have regular passengers probably not, but
> >> they probably would have a small civilian population, using families
> >> for that purpose could only improve morale.
> >
> > There's no military on Earth or any fiction I can think of that has
> > families along for the ride on aircraft carriers, etc. It's far too
> > dnergous for a start. The Empire would be no different, and in fact due
> > to the Emperor's lack of caring about his forces "morale", is even less
> > likely to allow such things. Some of them may have families living back
> > at / nearby a "home base", but it's extremely doubful they'd be allowed
> > to travel on the Star Destroyers or Death Star.
> >
> > The only thing that comes close is the Star Trek ships in The Next
> > Generation and Voyager, but then those aren't part of a proper military
> > force.
>
> That far in to the future, that may be the way a proper military force
> works.

The Empire isn't a normal military. The Emperor doesn't care less about
his troops welfare, only that they do as he tells them to do.



> Many people, out in space, for over 10 Years [at] a time, and mixed genders,
> someone's going to sleep together.
> It's just nature that someone is going to end up having sex.
> So you have to be prepared for something like that.
> For that fact, you have to be prepared for almost anything.
> Your out in space, for ? amount of time, many things could happen.
> There's also times in the series when they don't even see other ships
> for months time.
>
> How bout this, we put you in a ship, with a mix of genders, for 10 + or
> ? years, and lets see you not sleep with any one.

(Note: I haven't read ALL the books and comics, so some of the
foloowing may have occurred in the ones I haven't read.)

The question was about having families on-board, but having said that,
I don't think there are any females in the Empire's military ranks,
although the Emperor does have a few like Mara Jade as his
"henchpeople".

The ships of the Empire aren't on "10 year" style missions. They do
have lightspeed and can easily get anywhere or be gotten to within
weeks at most, making it much less of a problem to switch the crews
around from "on ship", "on planet" and "on leave" (assuming they
actually get any leave at all).



> STNG Might just be tomorrow's Proper Military Standard.
>
> Denny. ;-) :-)

Star Trek's Federation isn't a military at all. They have armed ships
and fight in battles against the Borg, etc., but they're mostly a
science and exploration organisation. Plus, I think Picard himself says
at one stage about the silliness of having families on-board.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213193 ] So, 05 Februar 2006 01:16
Ears  
>
>The Empire isn't a normal military. The Emperor doesn't care less about
>his troops welfare, only that they do as he tells them to do.

>>
>> How bout this, we put you in a ship, with a mix of genders, for 10 + or
>> ? years, and lets see you not sleep with any one.
>
>(Note: I haven't read ALL the books and comics, so some of the
>foloowing may have occurred in the ones I haven't read.)
>
>The question was about having families on-board, but having said that,
>I don't think there are any females in the Empire's military ranks,
>although the Emperor does have a few like Mara Jade as his
>"henchpeople".
>
>The ships of the Empire aren't on "10 year" style missions. They do
>have lightspeed and can easily get anywhere or be gotten to within
>weeks at most, making it much less of a problem to switch the crews
>around from "on ship", "on planet" and "on leave" (assuming they
>actually get any leave at all).

>
>Star Trek's Federation isn't a military at all. They have armed ships
>and fight in battles against the Borg, etc., but they're mostly a
>science and exploration organisation. Plus, I think Picard himself says
>at one stage about the silliness of having families on-board.

I agree with the Morale thing only to a point. I simply do not think
its possible for normal human males to go without recreation
indefinitely. By all accounts that was what made up the supreme bulk
of the Imperial Military. And yes there were females in the Imperial
Military but they were kept as downtrodden as possible, I wouldn't be
surprised if more than a few female Officers had trouble with their
superiors as well as their subordinates...

Maybe the Clone Troopers were an exception but they never knew
anything else. And yes, I do not think that the Stormtroopers were
clones, if the Senate did anything useful I believe banning the use of
clones (at least officially) would have been one of them.

In ANH two Stormtroopers were briefly having a personal conversation,
that says they are more than mindless machines.
By all accounts they are citizens who are trained as troopers,
troopers need some form of rest and recreation EVENTUALLY.

Given the crew size of Star Destroyers for them not to have any rec
facilities would be more detrimental than anything. And I will tell
you that the militaries of today (at least the US) package recreation
facilities right along with the guns and bullets. Rest and
Recreation are essential to good order and discipline.

And also, what are the quarters like for the higher grade officers.
Not the Grand Moffs and Admirals, they at least have 2 or 3 rooms to
themselves, and not like the Stormtroopers that have maybe a bed rack
to themselves.

I would expect officers, maybe in the O-1 to O-3 range to have a nice
size suite that they share, and maybe an adjoining bathroom and maybe
a sitting room/food prep station.

Since officers are expected to be constantly working I would think a
personal room would have a computer work area, a small hologram pod,
and probably personal storage area.

Above that rank they would probably have much of the same but it would
just be more private.

By all accounts the Imperial Military standardized EVERYTHING, so
quarters were probably modular, they would fit together on a large
scale and would determine personal space and privacy by rank.

Oh, and one more thing, as much as well all know that the Emperor
could care less about his troops, we all know that.... but to the
average Imperial the Emperor is their revered leader who cares about
all his people, especially his solders, don't underestimate good
propaganda.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #213194 ] So, 05 Februar 2006 03:32
Anybody  
In article <ukdau1tfacime40rokd0ifgtcaotfh5sdf [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
<ears [at] not.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with the Morale thing only to a point. I simply do not think
> its possible for normal human males to go without recreation
> indefinitely. By all accounts that was what made up the supreme bulk
> of the Imperial Military. And yes there were females in the Imperial
> Military but they were kept as downtrodden as possible, I wouldn't be
> surprised if more than a few female Officers had trouble with their
> superiors as well as their subordinates...
>
> Maybe the Clone Troopers were an exception but they never knew
> anything else. And yes, I do not think that the Stormtroopers were
> clones, if the Senate did anything useful I believe banning the use of
> clones (at least officially) would have been one of them.
>
> In ANH two Stormtroopers were briefly having a personal conversation,
> that says they are more than mindless machines.
> By all accounts they are citizens who are trained as troopers,
> troopers need some form of rest and recreation EVENTUALLY.
>
> Given the crew size of Star Destroyers for them not to have any rec
> facilities would be more detrimental than anything. And I will tell
> you that the militaries of today (at least the US) package recreation
> facilities right along with the guns and bullets. Rest and
> Recreation are essential to good order and discipline.
>
> And also, what are the quarters like for the higher grade officers.
> Not the Grand Moffs and Admirals, they at least have 2 or 3 rooms to
> themselves, and not like the Stormtroopers that have maybe a bed rack
> to themselves.
>
> I would expect officers, maybe in the O-1 to O-3 range to have a nice
> size suite that they share, and maybe an adjoining bathroom and maybe
> a sitting room/food prep station.
>
> Since officers are expected to be constantly working I would think a
> personal room would have a computer work area, a small hologram pod,
> and probably personal storage area.
>
> Above that rank they would probably have much of the same but it would
> just be more private.
>
> By all accounts the Imperial Military standardized EVERYTHING, so
> quarters were probably modular, they would fit together on a large
> scale and would determine personal space and privacy by rank.

Recreation (which I know was part of the original question) is totally
different to having their families on-board a Star Destroyer.

Recreation is pretty much a given, but that can be as simple as having
a deck of cards and playing poker in the barracks, access to video
players, iPods, books, exercise gym, etc. Although for the
Stormtroopers, much of their "off duty" time would probably be spent
practising thier lousy aim and sleeping.

It's also almost guaranteed that the officers would have bigger and
better quarters than the Stormtroopers. Rank, as always, will have it's
privileges ... and it's problems when you disappoint Vader or the
Emperor.

All the standard stuff you'd find in most large military vehicles would
be there, as well as probably shore leave, etc.




> Oh, and one more thing, as much as well all know that the Emperor
> could care less about his troops, we all know that.... but to the
> average Imperial the Emperor is their revered leader who cares about
> all his people, especially his solders, don't underestimate good
> propaganda.

The Emperor doesn't need "good propaganda" - he's the boss, a dictator
and he's "all powerful", anything else is irrelevant. He's also evil.
Anyone who disagrees with him is simply removed, either to a cell or by
death. The troops are basically brain washed into serving him and don't
have any choice in the matter.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217127 ] Di, 07 Februar 2006 17:35
Dennis E Strausser Jr  
Your a moron.

No, of course the emperor don't care much about his crew.
Yes, at times there's probably kids on board.
But think about it, you cant just take a star destroyer to a safe space port
every time a kid gets born.
Even if the emperor is not around. It's a waste of fuel.
Besides this, if you think about it, the emperor would rather see the kid
grow up
within the empire to be sure he would be a part of the dark side of the
force.
A ship of 1,000s, that would be impossible to regulate who has sex, don't
you think?

2nd reason I called you a moron.

I answered one of your questions about STNG and you totally ignored it in
your
direct reply to me.

"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:050220061532044463%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <ukdau1tfacime40rokd0ifgtcaotfh5sdf [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
> <ears [at] not.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with the Morale thing only to a point. I simply do not think
>> its possible for normal human males to go without recreation
>> indefinitely. By all accounts that was what made up the supreme bulk
>> of the Imperial Military. And yes there were females in the Imperial
>> Military but they were kept as downtrodden as possible, I wouldn't be
>> surprised if more than a few female Officers had trouble with their
>> superiors as well as their subordinates...
>>
>> Maybe the Clone Troopers were an exception but they never knew
>> anything else. And yes, I do not think that the Stormtroopers were
>> clones, if the Senate did anything useful I believe banning the use of
>> clones (at least officially) would have been one of them.
>>
>> In ANH two Stormtroopers were briefly having a personal conversation,
>> that says they are more than mindless machines.
>> By all accounts they are citizens who are trained as troopers,
>> troopers need some form of rest and recreation EVENTUALLY.
>>
>> Given the crew size of Star Destroyers for them not to have any rec
>> facilities would be more detrimental than anything. And I will tell
>> you that the militaries of today (at least the US) package recreation
>> facilities right along with the guns and bullets. Rest and
>> Recreation are essential to good order and discipline.
>>
>> And also, what are the quarters like for the higher grade officers.
>> Not the Grand Moffs and Admirals, they at least have 2 or 3 rooms to
>> themselves, and not like the Stormtroopers that have maybe a bed rack
>> to themselves.
>>
>> I would expect officers, maybe in the O-1 to O-3 range to have a nice
>> size suite that they share, and maybe an adjoining bathroom and maybe
>> a sitting room/food prep station.
>>
>> Since officers are expected to be constantly working I would think a
>> personal room would have a computer work area, a small hologram pod,
>> and probably personal storage area.
>>
>> Above that rank they would probably have much of the same but it would
>> just be more private.
>>
>> By all accounts the Imperial Military standardized EVERYTHING, so
>> quarters were probably modular, they would fit together on a large
>> scale and would determine personal space and privacy by rank.
>
> Recreation (which I know was part of the original question) is totally
> different to having their families on-board a Star Destroyer.
>
> Recreation is pretty much a given, but that can be as simple as having
> a deck of cards and playing poker in the barracks, access to video
> players, iPods, books, exercise gym, etc. Although for the
> Stormtroopers, much of their "off duty" time would probably be spent
> practising thier lousy aim and sleeping.
>
> It's also almost guaranteed that the officers would have bigger and
> better quarters than the Stormtroopers. Rank, as always, will have it's
> privileges ... and it's problems when you disappoint Vader or the
> Emperor.
Things like this would be true, no matter if the emperor approved of it
or not.

>
> All the standard stuff you'd find in most large military vehicles would
> be there, as well as probably shore leave, etc.
>
>
>
>
>> Oh, and one more thing, as much as well all know that the Emperor
>> could care less about his troops, we all know that.... but to the
>> average Imperial the Emperor is their revered leader who cares about
>> all his people, especially his solders, don't underestimate good
>> propaganda.
>
> The Emperor doesn't need "good propaganda" - he's the boss, a dictator
> and he's "all powerful", anything else is irrelevant. He's also evil.
> Anyone who disagrees with him is simply removed, either to a cell or by
> death. The troops are basically brain washed into serving him and don't
> have any choice in the matter.

My brother use to read the books, one of the things that was a big deal was
getting
in to the Empire. And if you made a rank, that was a big deal.
It was the IN thing to do. Sign up to work for the empire as an officer.
Do you know who use to be a part of the Empire....?
Hon Solo.
A large group was ordered to kill off all the wookiees on their planet.
Hon thought this to be very unfair, so he did what he could to save them.
One wookiee ended up being his friend.
When he did this, he was no longer a part of the Empire.

Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more like
a moron, or do you want to shut up.
Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
This way, you won't look even more like a moron.
BTW, I don't know if Chewbacca was the only one he saved, or if he saved
more then one. My brother is the one that read it.


Denny.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217130 ] Di, 07 Februar 2006 20:36
Anybody  
In article <zeCdnaPg-IX-UXXeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> Your a moron.

<snip>

> Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more like
> a moron, or do you want to shut up.
> Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
> This way, you won't look even more like a moron.


Oh dear. I can't even tell who you're replying to or what half of that
gibberish was meant to say, but these two paragraphs by themselves make
it look like you're just another fool heading for the killfile. :-\
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217131 ] Mi, 08 Februar 2006 03:52
Dennis E Strausser Jr  
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:080220060836257892%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <zeCdnaPg-IX-UXXeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
> Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Your a moron.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more
>> like
>> a moron, or do you want to shut up.
>> Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
>> This way, you won't look even more like a moron.
>
>
> Oh dear. I can't even tell who you're replying to or what half of that
> gibberish was meant to say, but these two paragraphs by themselves make
> it look like you're just another fool heading for the killfile. :-\
Know what, I'd rather be ignored by some1 like you who seems to know little
about what your talking about, then I don't have to worry that your going
to
give me some kind of dumb reply..
Like this one, that was a direct reply to you, and you ask who it was for?!
File, Killfile me, I'll be glad for it.

Moron.
Denny. :-D
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217132 ] Mi, 08 Februar 2006 04:01
Ears  
There's no reason to take it personally.

About the argument on whether families were on board ships, I would
say that there were few if any. Even the highest ranking officers
wouldn't want there wives and such along because by all accounts they
would cheat on them as much as possible anyway. And I am sure that
there were rarely pasengers if at all. Is it possible to regulate
the sexual activities of 37,000+ people? I would say its a
possbility both ways. Especially if most of them were men anyway,
most females wouldn't go more than 10 steps outside there rooms
without blasters and escort.

As for the Stormtroopers, supposedly there are places dedicated for
those activities, probably planetside only, I'm sure that's something
they wouldn't want to have aboard a ship. And it might have been
beneath the dignity of other officers to go to such places or... it
might have simply been dangerous if you weren't a Trooper.

Opinions?
Ears


On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:36:25 +1300, Anybody
<anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:

>In article <zeCdnaPg-IX-UXXeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
>Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Your a moron.
>
><snip>
>
>> Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more like
>> a moron, or do you want to shut up.
>> Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
>> This way, you won't look even more like a moron.
>
>
>Oh dear. I can't even tell who you're replying to or what half of that
>gibberish was meant to say, but these two paragraphs by themselves make
>it look like you're just another fool heading for the killfile. :-\
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217134 ] Mi, 08 Februar 2006 06:12
Anybody  
In article <Y4adnU9vr4BJwXTenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E
Strausser Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:080220060836257892%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> > In article <zeCdnaPg-IX-UXXeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
> > Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Your a moron.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more
> >> like
> >> a moron, or do you want to shut up.
> >> Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
> >> This way, you won't look even more like a moron.
> >
> >
> > Oh dear. I can't even tell who you're replying to or what half of that
> > gibberish was meant to say, but these two paragraphs by themselves make
> > it look like you're just another fool heading for the killfile. :-\
> Know what, I'd rather be ignored by some1 like you who seems to know little
> about what your talking about, then I don't have to worry that your going
> to
> give me some kind of dumb reply..
> Like this one, that was a direct reply to you, and you ask who it was for?!
> File, Killfile me, I'll be glad for it.
>
> Moron.
> Denny. :-D

Idiotic troll killfiled ... thank goodness. :-\
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217135 ] Mi, 08 Februar 2006 06:14
Anybody  
In article <qcniu15nu0ntf3ciaq1glqhb68dr05kj72 [at] 4ax.com>, Ears
<ears [at] not.com> wrote:

> There's no reason to take it personally.
>
> About the argument on whether families were on board ships, I would
> say that there were few if any. Even the highest ranking officers
> wouldn't want there wives and such along because by all accounts they
> would cheat on them as much as possible anyway. And I am sure that
> there were rarely pasengers if at all. Is it possible to regulate
> the sexual activities of 37,000+ people? I would say its a
> possbility both ways. Especially if most of them were men anyway,
> most females wouldn't go more than 10 steps outside there rooms
> without blasters and escort.
>
> As for the Stormtroopers, supposedly there are places dedicated for
> those activities, probably planetside only, I'm sure that's something
> they wouldn't want to have aboard a ship. And it might have been
> beneath the dignity of other officers to go to such places or... it
> might have simply been dangerous if you weren't a Trooper.
>
> Opinions?
> Ears

Another silly little ten-year old who thinks sex is the
be-all-and-end-all of EVERY topic. Killfiled as well. :-\
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217136 ] Mi, 08 Februar 2006 05:45
Dennis E Strausser Jr  
"Ears" <ears [at] not.com> wrote in message
news:qcniu15nu0ntf3ciaq1glqhb68dr05kj72 [at] 4ax.com...
> There's no reason to take it personally.
>
> About the argument on whether families were on board ships, I would
> say that there were few if any. Even the highest ranking officers
> wouldn't want there wives and such along because by all accounts they
> would cheat on them as much as possible anyway. And I am sure that
> there were rarely pasengers if at all. Is it possible to regulate
> the sexual activities of 37,000+ people? I would say its a
> possbility both ways. Especially if most of them were men anyway,
> most females wouldn't go more than 10 steps outside there rooms
> without blasters and escort.
>
> As for the Stormtroopers, supposedly there are places dedicated for
> those activities, probably planetside only, I'm sure that's something
> they wouldn't want to have aboard a ship. And it might have been
> beneath the dignity of other officers to go to such places or... it
> might have simply been dangerous if you weren't a Trooper.
>
> Opinions?
> Ears
Now that sounds more like possibilities then what Anybody was saying.
Could also be something that's just not talked about.
Some things can also be kept secret.
But keeping most women off a star ship, does seem the best way to keep them
from harm.
Like I would care anyway, I'm gay, so if Star Wars was real, and I was a
part
of the Empire, I would try to find someone else like me. Which I'm sure if
Star Wars was real, there would already be people doing the same.

I like your opinion, it does seem right in a way.
Like, cool. :-)

Here's some things I find funny.
>
>
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 08:36:25 +1300, Anybody
> <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
He says he don't know who I was replying to?

>
>>In article <zeCdnaPg-IX-UXXeRVn-rw [at] comcast.com>, "Dennis E Strausser
>>Jr" <dstrausser35 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Your a moron.
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> Now, do you want to say something else to make your self look even more
>>> like
>>> a moron, or do you want to shut up.
>>> Learn a little more about Star Wars before you say anything else.
>>> This way, you won't look even more like a moron.
>>
>>
>>Oh dear. I can't even tell who you're replying to or what half of that
>>gibberish was meant to say, but these two paragraphs by themselves make
Huh??

>>it look like you're just another fool heading for the killfile. :-\
>
Ok?
Self quoting.
I answered one of your questions about STNG and you totally ignored it in
your direct reply to me.
Does (Anybody) know how to tell who's replying to who?
It's so easy, it's not funny.

Here's another one.

Anybody said

"death. The troops are basically brain washed into serving him and don't
have any choice in the matter."

I said

"My brother use to read the books, one of the things that was a big deal was
getting
in to the Empire. And if you made a rank, that was a big deal.
It was the IN thing to do. Sign up to work for the empire as an officer.
Do you know who use to be a part of the Empire....?
Hon Solo.
A large group was ordered to kill off all the wookiees on their planet.
Hon thought this to be very unfair, so he did what he could to save them.
One wookiee ended up being his friend.
When he did this, he was no longer a part of the Empire."
Once you know something like this, it's easy to understand why they are
as good of friends as they are.

Now which part is not easy to understand?


Denny. :-D
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217151 ] Fr, 10 Februar 2006 01:02
Disciple.Standing  
Stormtroopers arent people. They're clones.
This is how theyre chosen:
The Empire dishes out a mass test to all eligible men. Anyone who
scores in the top 5th percentile gets mass cloned. (they dont use
Jango's clones anymore because he dead.) However, all the restrictions,
i.e., growth accelleration, etc. still apply.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217156 ] Fr, 10 Februar 2006 06:23
Anybody  
In article <1139529725.231984.155790 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"D.Liu" <Disciple.Standing [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> Stormtroopers arent people. They're clones.

There's no proof that Stormtroopers are still clones by the time of
Episode IV ... in fact many things point to them NOT still being
clones.


> This is how theyre chosen:
> The Empire dishes out a mass test to all eligible men. Anyone who
> scores in the top 5th percentile gets mass cloned. (they dont use
> Jango's clones anymore because he dead.) However, all the restrictions,
> i.e., growth accelleration, etc. still apply.

Errr ... no.
Re: Off-Duty Imperials [message #217211 ] Sa, 11 Februar 2006 20:54
Dennis E Strausser Jr  
"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:100220061823581432%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <1139529725.231984.155790 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "D.Liu" <Disciple.Standing [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stormtroopers arent people. They're clones.
>
> There's no proof that Stormtroopers are still clones by the time of
> Episode IV ... in fact many things point to them NOT still being
> clones.
>
>
>> This is how theyre chosen:
>> The Empire dishes out a mass test to all eligible men. Anyone who
>> scores in the top 5th percentile gets mass cloned. (they dont use
>> Jango's clones anymore because he dead.) However, all the restrictions,
>> i.e., growth accelleration, etc. still apply.
>
> Errr ... no.
I don't think "Anybody" will see this.
But.
I had already said about this in another reply.
Han Solo use to be a part of the Empire.
Up intil he and a team were sent to the Wookiee home planet
to kill off all Wookies.
Han didn't like this very much, and did his best to save them.
One of the one's he saved, of course. Was Chewbacca.
Not hard to tell why their such good friends.
The Wookies also have the Life Debt, that must be served in full.
What I'm saying is, like the last time I answered this, is at this time, it
was a Very big deal if you could be a part of the Empire.
Kind of like (The In) Thing to do.

Denny. :-)
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