| Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207659] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 18:28 |
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It's magnificent.
The structure of the collection seems to be to alternate more
"composed" songs like Farther O'Blivion with more bluesy "improvised"
tracks like D.C. Boogie. Total time just over 63 minutes, the
equivalent of a double-LP, and no boring vocals to skip through.
My fave so far is the closing track, "Montreal," basically a very
lively FZ solo with decorative interjections from the horns.
No keyboard player or percussionist in this band, but the bass and
drums do just fine, with most of the emphasis on the horns and guitars.
If you've been boycotting the ZFT releases, now is the time to give it
up and order this li'l sucker. It is incredible.
Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's very clean and clear and
certainly a major improvement over the cassettes of this band that I've
been listening to for decades.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207660 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 16:41 |
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In article <180120060928415381%ivester [at] utk.edu>, Stan Ivester
<ivester [at] utk.edu> wrote:
> It's magnificent. [and so forth]
Thanks, Stan. That's certainly a testimonial.
John Henley
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207662 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 18:26 |
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the only thing that could have made me happier would be if it was a
double cd.
Stan Ivester wrote:
> It's magnificent.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207667 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 20:56 |
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it was
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"mysteryroach" <jayziel [at] hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> the only thing that could have made me happier would be if it was a
> double cd.
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> Stan Ivester wrote:
> > It's magnificent.
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> >
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207668 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 21:46 |
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round things are boring
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207669 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 01:01 |
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In article <180120060941545494%jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu>, John Henley
<jhenley [at] mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> In article <180120060928415381%ivester [at] utk.edu>, Stan Ivester
> <ivester [at] utk.edu> wrote:
>
> > It's magnificent. [and so forth]
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> Thanks, Stan. That's certainly a testimonial.
>
> John Henley
Yer welcome.
Also, the tracks are put together like a "real" FZ concert: audience
stuff at the beginning--sounds like Frank conducting the crowd--and
Frank saying bye after the next-to-last piece, with the final number
presented as an encore.
The whole thing was obviously put together with love and respect for
Frank's legacy and, while I would have loved to have even more, this is
a major release and a beautiful opening into one of Zappa's most
interesting bands.
Fifteen bucks plus postage? Bargain of the century.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207670 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 22:29 |
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huh. i only got one disc in mine.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207671 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 22:34 |
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life's a bitch
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"mysteryroach" <jayziel [at] hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> huh. i only got one disc in mine.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207673 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 22:56 |
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Stan Ivester wrote:
> My fave so far is the closing track, "Montreal," basically a very
> lively FZ solo with decorative interjections from the horns.
I listened to ID at work today, and those horn interjections got me
wondering. They seem more arranged than improvised. I sort of wonder if
this track came from the end of some song rather than being a standalone
jam like the DC and KC tracks (FZShows does not list the Montreal
concert--first one of the tour, correct?--as being in circulation, so
maybe we won't actually know for a while.. if ever.. unless Joe wants to
say something about it..)
> Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's very clean and clear and
> certainly a major improvement over the cassettes of this band that I've
> been listening to for decades.
And the first and last tracks apparently even come from cassette masters
rather than 4-track reels. You can hardly tell, though ("Montreal" does
sound ever so slightly rougher than the other tracks, but not
drastically so.. barely even noticeably so).
--
Milhouse Guidry of the mWo
Sometime king of alt.pro-wrestling.dx
I have to pick up a frickin' pie at nine in the morning.
"I apologize and recognize the validity of your argument."
--"Whit Sterling", in one of the more absurdly unlikely
statements in the history of Usenet.
mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207674 ] |
Mi, 18 Januar 2006 22:58 |
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Milhouse Authentico wrote:
> (FZShows does not list the Montreal
> concert--first one of the tour, correct?
A quote from the Mothers Home Journal (reprinted in Michael Gray's
book, I believe) has the '73 band listening to a recording of their
first show and FZ commenting that it was much better than the debut of
the last band. Kinda funny to think that we're now getting to hear
bits from the debut of the last band (unless he was thinking of the
first Grand Wazoo gig in Sept '72 at the Hollywood Bowl).
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207676 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 01:06 |
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In article <437rq3F1map8rU1 [at] individual.net>,
Milhouse Authentico <milhouse_on_a_stick [at] derekmarvelli.org> wrote:
> Stan Ivester wrote:
>
> > My fave so far is the closing track, "Montreal," basically a very
> > lively FZ solo with decorative interjections from the horns.
>
> I listened to ID at work today, and those horn interjections got me
> wondering. They seem more arranged than improvised. I sort of wonder if
> this track came from the end of some song rather than being a standalone
> jam like the DC and KC tracks (FZShows does not list the Montreal
> concert--first one of the tour, correct?--as being in circulation, so
> maybe we won't actually know for a while.. if ever.. unless Joe wants to
> say something about it..)
Montréal was indeed the first concert of the tour. See
<http://members.shaw.ca/fz-pomd/wazoo/pwitin.html>.
Although no recording is in circulation, there are several reviews at
<http://members.shaw.ca/fz-pomd/wazoo/pwrev.html>. The one in French
<http://members.shaw.ca/fz-pomd/wazoo/pwrev.html#champagne> mentions
audience participation.
> > Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's very clean and clear and
> > certainly a major improvement over the cassettes of this band that I've
> > been listening to for decades.
>
> And the first and last tracks apparently even come from cassette masters
> rather than 4-track reels. You can hardly tell, though ("Montreal" does
> sound ever so slightly rougher than the other tracks, but not
> drastically so.. barely even noticeably so).
Anyway, professionally-recorded soundboard cassettes are likely to sound
better than surreptitiously-recorded audience cassettes, let alone
copies of copies of copies of the latter.
--Charles
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207679 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 15:47 |
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so what's your point?
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207681 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 17:41 |
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that its a pitty we only got one disc out of this 72 marvel
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"mysteryroach" <jayziel [at] hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> so what's your point?
>
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207682 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 18:24 |
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> its a pitty we only got one disc out of this 72 marvel
One can infer from the liner notes that this album is just the
beginning . . .
(of course, inferences can be misleading)
Finally got my copy last night - very nice. Encore!
NP: Farther O'Blivion - Frank Zappa
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207684 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 18:29 |
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now that *would* be great news
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"Frunobulax" <sevrinx2 [at] aol.com> schreef in bericht
news:1137691462.777514.25160 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > its a pitty we only got one disc out of this 72 marvel
>
> One can infer from the liner notes that this album is just the
> beginning . . .
>
> (of course, inferences can be misleading)
>
> Finally got my copy last night - very nice. Encore!
>
> NP: Farther O'Blivion - Frank Zappa
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207693 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 23:37 |
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Haven't heard it all the way through yet (it's in my car, and it
doesn't take me long to drive to work), but what I have heard is
Magnificent with a capital M, as Frank used to say, as big as you!
"Farther O'Blivion," heard in retrospect, almost sounds like a "Zappa
Medley." Ahh, There's Be-bop Tango...no, wait that's Cucamonga...no,
wait. And what I've heard of Jim Gordon's drumming so far just goes to
make you feel sad that the guy's so fucked up.
TT
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207700 ] |
Fr, 20 Januar 2006 03:31 |
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Hey TT,
Can you elaborate on Jim Gordon or point me to a link about him?
Marc
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207703 ] |
Fr, 20 Januar 2006 04:46 |
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In article <1137724318.896665.76260 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"marc rosen" <duckbite [at] qis.net> wrote:
> Can you elaborate on Jim Gordon or point me to a link about him?
<http://www.united-mutations.com/g/jim_gordon.htm>
--Charles
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207705 ] |
Fr, 20 Januar 2006 06:13 |
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marc rosen wrote:
> Hey TT,
> Can you elaborate on Jim Gordon or point me to a link about him?
>
> Marc
I mostly remember him from the inside cover of the "Layla" album,
wearing a blue shirt with intense sweat circles under the arrums, man
you could SMELL that thing just by looking at it!
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207709 ] |
Fr, 20 Januar 2006 11:54 |
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Hello Charles,
Thanks for the reminder to the U-M link. I need to visit that more
often.
Marc
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207728 ] |
Sa, 21 Januar 2006 01:02 |
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In article <180120060928415381%ivester [at] utk.edu>,
Stan Ivester <ivester [at] utk.edu> wrote:
> It's magnificent.
>
I agree.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #207819 ] |
Di, 24 Januar 2006 02:26 |
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Just received my copy.
Pretty fast for getting all the way to Australia, although I DID pre-order.
WAsn't too chuffed about the flimsy post-pack considering there's no
jewel-casethe stop the cardboard sleeve from getting bent and ruined.
Luckily it survived the trip a-okay.
Going to pop it in the cd-player now...
Excitement is not a great enough word...
..V
"tactic" <3908709 [at] 4987909.cm> wrote in message
news:dqoie5$3hl$1 [at] news1.zwoll1.ov.home.nl...
> now that *would* be great news
>
> --
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> http://tinyurl.com/7eq8n
> "Frunobulax" <sevrinx2 [at] aol.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1137691462.777514.25160 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > its a pitty we only got one disc out of this 72 marvel
>>
>> One can infer from the liner notes that this album is just the
>> beginning . . .
>>
>> (of course, inferences can be misleading)
>>
>> Finally got my copy last night - very nice. Encore!
>>
>> NP: Farther O'Blivion - Frank Zappa
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #215532 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 19:59 |
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Marc: Apologies for not seeing your comment until now but it looks like
somebody sent you the information you were looking for!
TT
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #215625 ] |
Sa, 04 Februar 2006 03:50 |
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"Stan Ivester" <ivester [at] utk.edu> wrote in message
news:180120060928415381%ivester [at] utk.edu...
> It's magnificent.
>
> The structure of the collection seems to be to alternate more
> "composed" songs like Farther O'Blivion with more bluesy "improvised"
> tracks like D.C. Boogie. Total time just over 63 minutes, the
> equivalent of a double-LP, and no boring vocals to skip through.
>
> My fave so far is the closing track, "Montreal," basically a very
> lively FZ solo with decorative interjections from the horns.
>
> No keyboard player or percussionist in this band, but the bass and
> drums do just fine, with most of the emphasis on the horns and guitars.
>
>
> If you've been boycotting the ZFT releases, now is the time to give it
> up and order this li'l sucker. It is incredible.
>
> Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's very clean and clear and
> certainly a major improvement over the cassettes of this band that I've
> been listening to for decades.
Thanks for the tip. I've been thinking of stealing this one too.
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #215636 ] |
So, 05 Februar 2006 05:11 |
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Zoot Spliff wrote:
> "Stan Ivester" <ivester [at] utk.edu> wrote in message
> news:180120060928415381%ivester [at] utk.edu...
>
>>It's magnificent.
>>
>>The structure of the collection seems to be to alternate more
>>"composed" songs like Farther O'Blivion with more bluesy "improvised"
>>tracks like D.C. Boogie. Total time just over 63 minutes, the
>>equivalent of a double-LP, and no boring vocals to skip through.
>>
>>My fave so far is the closing track, "Montreal," basically a very
>>lively FZ solo with decorative interjections from the horns.
>>
>>No keyboard player or percussionist in this band, but the bass and
>>drums do just fine, with most of the emphasis on the horns and guitars.
>>
>>
>>If you've been boycotting the ZFT releases, now is the time to give it
>>up and order this li'l sucker. It is incredible.
>>
>>Sound quality isn't perfect, but it's very clean and clear and
>>certainly a major improvement over the cassettes of this band that I've
>>been listening to for decades.
>
>
> Thanks for the tip. I've been thinking of stealing this one too.
>
>
60 minutes = a double-LP? I don't think so. Most LPs were 20+min per
side so a typical double-LP would be at least 80 mins.
I'll order the Roxy DVD if an when its released.
Dave
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| Re: Imaginary Diseases CD [message #215638 ] |
So, 05 Februar 2006 07:15 |
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Dave W wrote:
> 60 minutes = a double-LP? I don't think so. Most LPs were 20+min per
> side so a typical double-LP would be at least 80 mins.
Not for most Zappa albums. How long are Tinseltown Rebellion, You Are
What You Is, Sheik Yerbouti and Roxy & Elswhere among others? FZ
generally preferred to stay under 20 minutes per side (note that
non-double albums such as Overnite Sensation, Apostrophe, Drowning With
and Man From Utopia are under 40 minutes), hoping to get more volume and
better sound quality out of vinyl mastering.
--
Milhouse Guidry of the mWo
Sometime king of alt.pro-wrestling.dx
I have to pick up a frickin' pie at nine in the morning.
"I apologize and recognize the validity of your argument."
--"Whit Sterling", in one of the more absurdly unlikely
statements in the history of Usenet.
mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.
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