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Fantasy » alt.fan.dragons » Bird Flu
| Bird Flu [message #205175] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 06:00 |
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The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so
and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the
usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205188 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 11:15 |
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Pardon me if I am slightly side-stepping the question, but I'd just like to
point out something that I think is rather ridiculus about the whole topic.
Many countries are now stockpilling the vaccines to the 'new age plague' as
I like to call it, but for the majority of them, by the time the flu
actually reaches their country, it would have mutated beyond it's present
stage and there is a likley chance that the current vaccine will have no
effect whatsoever...
But still, yes, the flu is something that would concern many of us,
regardless of how remote or well-protected out country is.
Intensely debating Pegasus
Lady Viriatha de Cordova <viri_cordova [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b4hDf.2564$Nv2.917 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so
> and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the
> usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
>
> --
> Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
>
> http://www.tdzk.com/
>
> DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
> Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
> I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
> Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
> Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
>
> Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
> paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205189 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 12:39 |
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Pegasus wrote:
> Pardon me if I am slightly side-stepping the question, but I'd just like to
> point out something that I think is rather ridiculus about the whole topic.
> Many countries are now stockpilling the vaccines to the 'new age plague' as
> I like to call it, but for the majority of them, by the time the flu
> actually reaches their country, it would have mutated beyond it's present
> stage and there is a likley chance that the current vaccine will have no
> effect whatsoever...
That does seem odd.
> But still, yes, the flu is something that would concern many of us,
> regardless of how remote or well-protected out country is.
Why?
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205194 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 13:53 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so and I
> wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the usual
> sensationalism one finds in news these days?
It's two things. First, it's a blatant political ploy to distract the
media and public for a time. Second, it's also the real deal; the
deadliest variants of flu pandemics on record have always come from
mutations of bird flus and we are overdue for the next real pandemic.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205197 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 13:57 |
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Scott L wrote:
> It's two things. First, it's a blatant political ploy to distract the
> media and public for a time. Second, it's also the real deal; the
> deadliest variants of flu pandemics on record have always come from
> mutations of bird flus and we are overdue for the next real pandemic.
What's it a ploy to distract us from?
and I guess it's time to start being serious about my flu shots...
ouchie
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205198 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 14:08 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Pegasus wrote:
> > Pardon me if I am slightly side-stepping the question, but I'd just
> > like to point out something that I think is rather ridiculus about
> > the whole topic. Many countries are now stockpilling the vaccines
> > to the 'new age plague' as I like to call it, but for the majority
> > of them, by the time the flu actually reaches their country, it
> > would have mutated beyond it's present stage and there is a likley
> > chance that the current vaccine will have no effect whatsoever...
>
> That does seem odd.
It's not that odd. Flu mutates form approximately once every two weeks
(or sooner). That's why the current efforts are toward a vaccine that
protects not against a specific version but rather against specific
characteristics; it's designed not to prevent infection, but rather to
give enough of an advance edge to survive it.
> > But still, yes, the flu is something that would concern many of us,
> > regardless of how remote or well-protected out country is.
>
> Why?
The bird flu is the source of every severe flu pandemic medical history
has been able to record. This is because of two factors. The first
being, since it's from another species, we have very little predisposed
immunity to it thus it will be far deadlier per case. Second, if it
hits a highly contagious form it will spread faster than containment
efforts. This is how it worked every time in the past, and with modern
transportation methods and an increased/increasing population density
the threat is greater than ever.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205204 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 14:16 |
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Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so and I
> wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the usual
> sensationalism one finds in news these days?
>
i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
--
Zarris
dragoncode: DC2.Dw Gm L- W T- Phvfwvl^t Sks Cbl+,bwh%,cbk,egy,vbk,wwh%
Bfl A- Fr++ Nm M- O H++ $+++ Fo-- R+++ Ac++ J+ S-- U-- I V-- Q Tc++[ntwk] E
journal: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=zarris
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #205206 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 14:16 |
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Scott L wrote:
>
>>>But still, yes, the flu is something that would concern many of us,
>>>regardless of how remote or well-protected out country is.
>>
>>Why?
>
>
> The bird flu is the source of every severe flu pandemic medical history
> has been able to record. This is because of two factors. The first
> being, since it's from another species, we have very little predisposed
> immunity to it thus it will be far deadlier per case. Second, if it
> hits a highly contagious form it will spread faster than containment
> efforts. This is how it worked every time in the past, and with modern
> transportation methods and an increased/increasing population density
> the threat is greater than ever.
Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
short for "influenza" ?
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213261 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 04:35 |
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On 30 Jan 2006, Lady Viriatha de Cordova was found to have scratched
news:nSoDf.2677$Nv2.1372 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
> Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
> short for "influenza" ?
No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, /is/ short for
"influenza".....
<Runs and hides again> };=8Þ
Lord Flame Stryke
--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
"Reality is for people who lack imagination." -- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213270 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 05:11 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lord Flame Stryke whispered:
> On 30 Jan 2006, Lady Viriatha de Cordova was found to have scratched
> news:nSoDf.2677$Nv2.1372 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net on a rock
> in alt.fan.dragons:
>
> > Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
> > short for "influenza" ?
>
> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, is short for
> "influenza".....
>
> <Runs and hides again> };=8^
>
>
>
> Lord Flame Stryke
boooo!!!!!!
Just a Monkey (grinning),
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213272 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 05:13 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Scott L wrote:
>
> > It's two things. First, it's a blatant political ploy to distract
> > the media and public for a time. Second, it's also the real deal;
> > the deadliest variants of flu pandemics on record have always come
> > from mutations of bird flus and we are overdue for the next real
> > pandemic.
>
> What's it a ploy to distract us from?
>
> and I guess it's time to start being serious about my flu shots...
> ouchie
It's a ploy to distract us from whatever poilitical situation we are
not supposed to pay attention to. In this case Bush's steady decline
in popularity, and by association the Republican Party's decline.
And don't worry about the shots hurting. It hurts about as much as a
tetanus shot, and those are virtually painless.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213273 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 05:16 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
> Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so and
> > I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the usual
> > sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> >
>
> i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird flu
variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to spread out of
control. From a long-term perspective, it's one of the CDC's
worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213274 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 05:51 |
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Lord Flame Stryke wrote:
>
>>Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
>>short for "influenza" ?
>
> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, /is/ short for
> "influenza".....
>
> <Runs and hides again> };=8Þ
*laughs and chases then hugs m'Lord!*
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213275 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 05:52 |
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Scott L wrote:
>>and I guess it's time to start being serious about my flu shots...
>>ouchie
>
> And don't worry about the shots hurting. It hurts about as much as a
> tetanus shot, and those are virtually painless.
My tetanus shot was pretty painful, however, i was referring the
the situation I could be in if I continued to neglect my shots,
not the pain of the shot itself :)
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213289 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 06:08 |
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Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:swBDf.744595$_o.296286 [at] attbi_s71...
> On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
>
> > Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so and
> > > I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the usual
> > > sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> > >
> >
> > i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
>
> From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird flu
> variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to spread out of
> control. From a long-term perspective, it's one of the CDC's
> worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
>
Hmm... the new-age plague?
> Just a Monkey,
>
> Scott,
>
> --
> Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
> Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213303 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 14:35 |
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Scott L wrote:
> On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
>
>
>>Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
>>
>>>The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so and
>>>I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the usual
>>>sensationalism one finds in news these days?
>>>
>>
>>i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
>
>
> From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird flu
> variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to spread out of
> control. From a long-term perspective, it's one of the CDC's
> worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
*shrugs*
that may be...
>
> Just a Monkey,
>
> Scott,
>
> --
> Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
> Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
--
Zarris
dragoncode: DC2.Dw Gm L- W T- Phvfwvl^t Sks Cbl+,bwh%,cbk,egy,vbk,wwh%
Bfl A- Fr++ Nm M- O H++ $+++ Fo-- R+++ Ac++ J+ S-- U-- I V-- Q Tc++[ntwk] E
journal: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=zarris
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213314 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 20:08 |
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sensationalism over real concerns, such fueling mistakes
danger bird flu mutating within a human host with human flu
statistical probability low unless but not zero
probability increases if immune deficit - AIDS one example
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border inspections/restrictions useless, stockpiling for fools
aiding hot zones critical, beyond containing outbreaks
dispensing bird flu vaccines, reducing mosquito/flea/lice...
screening/treating/educating/assisting regions in health care
those dead of bird flu had no access to immunization
without host/mutation there can be no pandemic
no effort/preparedness in an unaffected zone will change anything
support valid CDC/UN Health efforts, not political agendas
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Anvil*
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213341 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 22:50 |
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In article <_2oDf.8850$vU2.2008 [at] newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
viri_cordova [at] yahoo.com says...
>Scott L wrote:
>
>> It's two things. First, it's a blatant political ploy to distract the
>> media and public for a time. Second, it's also the real deal; the
>> deadliest variants of flu pandemics on record have always come from
>> mutations of bird flus and we are overdue for the next real pandemic.
>
>What's it a ploy to distract us from?
The failings of our current government.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213368 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 02:31 |
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On 30 Jan 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:wrBDf.744584
$_o.82010 [at] attbi_s71 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>> > Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
>> > short for "influenza" ?
>> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, is short for
>> "influenza".....
>> <Runs and hides again> };=8^
> boooo!!!!!!
> Just a Monkey (grinning),
That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle SMOOCHIES!! Scott
and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
Lord Flame Stryke
--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
"The default Magic Word, "Abracadabra", actually is a corruption of the
Hebrew phrase "ha-Bracha dab'ra" which means "pronounce the blessing"." --
Herd Thinners
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213369 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 02:31 |
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On 30 Jan 2006, Lady Viriatha de Cordova was found to have scratched
news:G1CDf.8322$rH5.7445 [at] newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>>>Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
>>>short for "influenza" ?
>> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, /is/ short for
>> "influenza".....
>> <Runs and hides again> };=8Þ
> *laughs and chases then hugs m'Lord!*
Oh, good, no explosion this time };=8Þ <PounceHuggleSMOOCHIES!! Viri>
Lord Flame Stryke
--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
"You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for
instance." -- Franklin P. Jones
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213380 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 03:16 |
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Anvil* wrote:
Heyla, Anvil :) Good to see you again :)
> sensationalism over real concerns, such fueling mistakes
> danger bird flu mutating within a human host with human flu
> statistical probability low unless but not zero
> probability increases if immune deficit - AIDS one example
> ----
> border inspections/restrictions useless, stockpiling for fools
> aiding hot zones critical, beyond containing outbreaks
> dispensing bird flu vaccines, reducing mosquito/flea/lice...
> screening/treating/educating/assisting regions in health care
> those dead of bird flu had no access to immunization
> without host/mutation there can be no pandemic
> no effort/preparedness in an unaffected zone will change anything
> support valid CDC/UN Health efforts, not political agendas
Good points as well.
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213382 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 03:17 |
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Lord Flame Stryke wrote:
>>
>>*laughs and chases then hugs m'Lord!*
>
>
> Oh, good, no explosion this time };=8Þ <PounceHuggleSMOOCHIES!! Viri>
*cuddle*
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213399 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 04:36 |
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On 31 Jan 2006, Lady Viriatha de Cordova was found to have scratched
news:ASUDf.3348$Nv2.3221 [at] newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net on a rock in
alt.fan.dragons:
>>>*laughs and chases then hugs m'Lord!*
>> Oh, good, no explosion this time };=8Þ <PounceHuggleSMOOCHIES!! Viri>
> *cuddle*
<CuddlesBack> And no worries about the subject from me. I'm increadibly
immune, and my host has had a flu shot only 3 months ago.
Lord Flame Stryke
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Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
"Checkuary, n: The thirteenth month of the year. Begins New Year's Day and
ends when a person stops absentmindedly writing the old year on his
checks." -- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213409 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 04:47 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lord Flame Stryke whispered:
> On 30 Jan 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:wrBDf.744584
> $_o.82010 [at] attbi_s71 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> > Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
> >> > short for "influenza" ?
> >> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, is short
> for >> "influenza".....
> >> <Runs and hides again> };=8^
> > boooo!!!!!!
> > Just a Monkey (grinning),
>
> That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle SMOOCHIES!!
> Scott and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
>
> Lord Flame Stryke
EEEK!!! Now I've got LFS cooties!
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213410 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 04:49 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Scott L wrote:
>
> > > and I guess it's time to start being serious about my flu shots...
> > > ouchie
> >
> > And don't worry about the shots hurting. It hurts about as much as
> > a tetanus shot, and those are virtually painless.
>
> My tetanus shot was pretty painful, however, i was referring the the
> situation I could be in if I continued to neglect my shots, not the
> pain of the shot itself :)
Ah. Well, they currently only recommend high-risk cases to go for the
current shot. Being as I have a chronic kidney condition, diabetic
tendencies, and severe allergies, I was well-advised to get it myself -
so I did.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213411 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 04:51 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
>
> Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:swBDf.744595$_o.296286 [at] attbi_s71...
> > On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
> >
> > > Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > > > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so
> > > > and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the
> > > > usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> > > >
> > >
> > > i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
> >
> > From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird flu
> > variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to spread out of
> > control. From a long-term perspective, it's one of the CDC's
> > worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
> >
> Hmm... the new-age plague?
The numbers from the last superflu pandemic were staggering, but
nothing compared to the Plague. Fortunately, the Plague is no longer
considered a serious threat at current technological levels; it's
readily contained.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213412 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 04:54 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Anvil* wrote:
>
> Heyla, Anvil :) Good to see you again :)
>
> > sensationalism over real concerns, such fueling mistakes
> > danger bird flu mutating within a human host with human flu
> > statistical probability low unless but not zero
> > probability increases if immune deficit - AIDS one example
> > ----
> > border inspections/restrictions useless, stockpiling for fools
> > aiding hot zones critical, beyond containing outbreaks
> > dispensing bird flu vaccines, reducing mosquito/flea/lice...
> > screening/treating/educating/assisting regions in health care
> > those dead of bird flu had no access to immunization
> > without host/mutation there can be no pandemic
> > no effort/preparedness in an unaffected zone will change anything
> > support valid CDC/UN Health efforts, not political agendas
>
> Good points as well.
Of course, all such points rely on a one-by-one case evaluation. Taken
from the broader standpoint, it's not a matter of if so much as when;
so many instances going around make for a near-certainty the highly
deadly and contagious variant will come forward. Once spread around,
it won't matter if it's highly contagious or not - it will be spread
far and wide enough to simply re-emerge in wave after wave for several
months, as has happened with each and every prior flu pandemic to date.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213417 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 06:47 |
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Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:XeWDf.524764$084.73583 [at] attbi_s22...
> On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
>
> >
> > Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:swBDf.744595$_o.296286 [at] attbi_s71...
> > > On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
> > >
> > > > Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > > > > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year or so
> > > > > and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or is it the
> > > > > usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything else...
> > >
> > > From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird flu
> > > variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to spread out of
> > > control. From a long-term perspective, it's one of the CDC's
> > > worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
> > >
> > Hmm... the new-age plague?
>
> The numbers from the last superflu pandemic were staggering, but
> nothing compared to the Plague. Fortunately, the Plague is no longer
> considered a serious threat at current technological levels; it's
> readily contained.
>
I do recall several years ago there was a few cases of said plague that made
it to the media...
> Just a Monkey,
>
> Scott,
>
> --
> Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
> Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213428 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 11:54 |
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Scott L wrote:
>>
>>My tetanus shot was pretty painful, however, i was referring the the
>>situation I could be in if I continued to neglect my shots, not the
>>pain of the shot itself :)
>
>
> Ah. Well, they currently only recommend high-risk cases to go for the
> current shot. Being as I have a chronic kidney condition, diabetic
> tendencies, and severe allergies, I was well-advised to get it myself -
> so I did.
I get sick easily, hence I consider myself high risk.
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213433 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 13:44 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Scott L wrote:
>
> > >
> > > My tetanus shot was pretty painful, however, i was referring the
> > > the situation I could be in if I continued to neglect my shots,
> > > not the pain of the shot itself :)
> >
> >
> > Ah. Well, they currently only recommend high-risk cases to go for
> > the current shot. Being as I have a chronic kidney condition,
> > diabetic tendencies, and severe allergies, I was well-advised to
> > get it myself - so I did.
>
> I get sick easily, hence I consider myself high risk.
You might inquire with a doctor about that. There's likely another
factor involved.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213434 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 13:45 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
>
> Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:XeWDf.524764$084.73583 [at] attbi_s22...
> > On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
> >
> > >
> > > Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:swBDf.744595$_o.296286 [at] attbi_s71...
> > > > On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
> > > >
> > > > > Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > > > > > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year
> > > > > > or so and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or
> > > > > > is it the usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything
> > > > > else...
> > > >
> > > > From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird
> > > > flu variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to
> > > > spread out of control. From a long-term perspective, it's one
> > > > of the CDC's worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
> > > >
> > > Hmm... the new-age plague?
> >
> > The numbers from the last superflu pandemic were staggering, but
> > nothing compared to the Plague. Fortunately, the Plague is no
> > longer considered a serious threat at current technological levels;
> > it's readily contained.
> >
> I do recall several years ago there was a few cases of said plague
> that made it to the media...
Yup. Weaponized plague, used in attacks. There's also a couple cases
that occur naturally every year. In all cases, easily contained and
controlled.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213436 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 16:40 |
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Scott L wrote:
>>
>>I get sick easily, hence I consider myself high risk.
>
>
> You might inquire with a doctor about that. There's likely another
> factor involved.
Several, actually. I just don't choose to make them public, no
offense to anyone here :)
--
Lady Viriatha Atyriv de Cordova y Elenia
http://www.tdzk.com/
DC2.~Dw/H Gf L/- Cbl/fs Bfl A? Fr++(tomato)
Nu M++ O+++ H++ $ Fj/v~ R++ Ac++ J S+++ U
I V+++ Tc+ E+ <69 CPs> Keeper of the Tasty
Beverage, Niftian, Mistress of Multi-Tasking,
Friend to Sock Puppets Everywhere
Freedom is just a hallucination created by a pathological lack of
paranoia.
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213437 ] |
Mi, 01 Februar 2006 19:27 |
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last major pandemic WW1, poor health/sanitation/warfare blamed
first documented case a Kansas Army training camp spring 1918
quickly spreading to other US military camps, those going to war
largest US contribution to World Peace in 1918 "Spanish flu"
agreed such will happen again eventually, such is nature
political expedience/policy need not exacerbate each occurrence
sadly US Beef policy (mad cow) would indicate otherwise
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213446 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 01:54 |
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On 31 Jan 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:cbWDf.524759
$084.129565 [at] attbi_s22 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>> >> > Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
>> >> > short for "influenza" ?
>> >> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, is short
>> for >> "influenza".....
>> >> <Runs and hides again> };=8^
>> > boooo!!!!!!
>> > Just a Monkey (grinning),
>> That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle SMOOCHIES!!
>> Scott and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
> EEEK!!! Now I've got LFS cooties!
I don't have cooties!! Honest!! I gave them all to Scott!! };=8Þ
Lord Flame Stryke
--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
"God is real, unless declared integer." -- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213448 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 02:37 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lord Flame Stryke whispered:
> On 31 Jan 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:cbWDf.524759
> $084.129565 [at] attbi_s22 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> >> > Joyful. And am I correct in believing that "flue" is actually
> >> >> > short for "influenza" ?
> >> >> No, "flue" is short for "chimney flue". "flu", however, is
> short >> for >> "influenza".....
> >> >> <Runs and hides again> };=8^
> >> > boooo!!!!!!
> >> > Just a Monkey (grinning),
> >> That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle SMOOCHIES!!
> >> Scott and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
> > EEEK!!! Now I've got LFS cooties!
>
> I don't have cooties!! Honest!! I gave them all to Scott!! };=8^
EEEK!!! Confirmation!!!
*sneakily gives them back*
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213449 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 02:38 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lady Viriatha de Cordova whispered:
> Scott L wrote:
> > >
> > > I get sick easily, hence I consider myself high risk.
> >
> >
> > You might inquire with a doctor about that. There's likely another
> > factor involved.
>
> Several, actually. I just don't choose to make them public, no
> offense to anyone here :)
Then you already have, and none taken. ^_^
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213450 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 02:39 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Anvil* whispered:
> last major pandemic WW1, poor health/sanitation/warfare blamed
> first documented case a Kansas Army training camp spring 1918
> quickly spreading to other US military camps, those going to war
> largest US contribution to World Peace in 1918 "Spanish flu"
> agreed such will happen again eventually, such is nature
> political expedience/policy need not exacerbate each occurrence
> sadly US Beef policy (mad cow) would indicate otherwise
There are at least two others since then.
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213460 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 04:39 |
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On 01 Feb 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:wndEf.526984
$084.164048 [at] attbi_s22 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>> >> That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle SMOOCHIES!!
>> >> Scott and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
>> > EEEK!!! Now I've got LFS cooties!
>> I don't have cooties!! Honest!! I gave them all to Scott!! };=8^
> EEEK!!! Confirmation!!!
> *sneakily gives them back*
Oh, than-- Hey, wait..... These aren't /my/ cooties!! See, they say
"Property of Scott L" all over them!!
<Spreads them back on Scott and flies away>
Lord Flame Stryke
--
DC2.D~ Gm L120f60t180w W T Phawlt Sks Cbk,ere' Bfl A+++! Fr++ Nm M+ O H+ $
Fc~ R+++! Ac+++ J+ S++ U! I# V+++! Q Tc++ E++
Draco nigrum, oculi rubere, suppositus, magus.
Holder of the Scroll of Nobility from Lady Viriatha, Keeper of the Wand of
Sparklies in its case from Hex, Wielder of the Lady Viri Signature 4x8 from
Ysable, Eater of the Mint Cheesecake from Whisper, Mate to Lady Viriatha,
Owner of Flame Stryke's Windex® Factory, Lord Balloonmaker, Borrower of the
Ebony Wood Fife from Luxatos, Accepter of the Small Statue of a Green
Dragon Covered in Ice Cream Toppings from Juniper, Employer of a miniature
Jester doll from SeaKing, Bearer of the Magic Ever-Bill from SeaKing,
Carrier of the gold piece from whisper: o, Builder of Dragon Fyre Keep,
First Dragon of Realism, Giver of the Pickaxe of Icebreaking to Kalos
--
Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way.
-- Herd Thinners
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213462 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 05:56 |
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Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:U32Ef.525602$084.48507 [at] attbi_s22...
> On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
>
> >
> > Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > news:XeWDf.524764$084.73583 [at] attbi_s22...
> > > On a dark and stormy night, Pegasus whispered:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott L <spamtrap644 [at] insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:swBDf.744595$_o.296286 [at] attbi_s71...
> > > > > On a dark and stormy night, Zarris whispered:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lady Viriatha de Cordova wrote:
> > > > > > > The news has been screaming alot about this the last year
> > > > > > > or so and I wonder? Is it truly anything to worry about or
> > > > > > > is it the usual sensationalism one finds in news these days?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i feel its been greatly overhyped, just like everything
> > > > > > else...
> > > > >
> > > > > From an immediate perspective, it's nothing; the current bird
> > > > > flu variants popping up here and there are all low-risk to
> > > > > spread out of control. From a long-term perspective, it's one
> > > > > of the CDC's worst-case scenarios as a near-certainty.
> > > > >
> > > > Hmm... the new-age plague?
> > >
> > > The numbers from the last superflu pandemic were staggering, but
> > > nothing compared to the Plague. Fortunately, the Plague is no
> > > longer considered a serious threat at current technological levels;
> > > it's readily contained.
> > >
> > I do recall several years ago there was a few cases of said plague
> > that made it to the media...
>
> Yup. Weaponized plague, used in attacks. There's also a couple cases
> that occur naturally every year. In all cases, easily contained and
> controlled.
Good thing, too. As much as I like the medieval period, the idea of people
dropping dead in the streets from the bubonic is not appealing...
>
> Just a Monkey,
>
> Scott,
>
> --
> Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
> Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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| Re: Bird Flu [message #213474 ] |
Do, 02 Februar 2006 13:33 |
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On a dark and stormy night, Lord Flame Stryke whispered:
> On 01 Feb 2006, Scott L was found to have scratched news:wndEf.526984
> $084.164048 [at] attbi_s22 on a rock in alt.fan.dragons:
>
> >> >> That's OK, I'm not hiding from you..... <PounceHuggle
> SMOOCHIES!! >> >> Scott and all his tricks, toys, and whatnot>
> >> > EEEK!!! Now I've got LFS cooties!
> >> I don't have cooties!! Honest!! I gave them all to Scott!! };=8^
> > EEEK!!! Confirmation!!!
> > *sneakily gives them back*
>
> Oh, than-- Hey, wait..... These aren't my cooties!! See, they say
> "Property of Scott L" all over them!!
>
> <Spreads them back on Scott and flies away>
*gives the cooties wings... sics 'em on LFS*
Just a Monkey,
Scott,
--
Visit me at http://4dw.net/moonfriend/index.html
Find the KMG (KY/Midwest Gather) at http://www.wertle.com/midwest.html
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