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Science Fiction » alt.fan.starwars » First ROTJ experience question
| First ROTJ experience question [message #204453] |
Di, 24 Januar 2006 12:47 |
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This one's for the older members...
Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how much
of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites it
on the skiff?
I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind Luke).
So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to the
majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at the
end of ESB was?
I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
"...and it was GREEN!"
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204454 ] |
Mi, 25 Januar 2006 11:36 |
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"The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:43d7497b$0$5756$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> This one's for the older members...
>
> Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how
much
> of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites
it
> on the skiff?
>
> I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
> memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
> cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind
Luke).
>
> So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to
the
> majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at
the
> end of ESB was?
>
> I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
> "...and it was GREEN!"
It was about as much of a surprise as learning, during ROTS, that Anakin
Skywalker is Darth Vader i.e. it was no surprise at all. The picture book
you mention was released before the movie. Having said that I'm sure there
were many people who didn't read the book or who were deliberately avoiding
spoilers and so it was probably surprising for them. Whether it was cool
enough to enthrall a crowd I don't know.
--
"Where does he get those wonderful toys?"
http://esnips.com/web/MyStarWarsToys
http://groups.msn.com/MyStarWarsCollection/shoebox.msnw
http://www.alt.fan.starwars.freeservers.com/
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204467 ] |
Mi, 25 Januar 2006 20:43 |
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<wavygbot> "Brett McConnie" is a gangster!!!
>"The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
>news:43d7497b$0$5756$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
>> This one's for the older members...
>>
>> Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how
>much
>> of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites
>it
>> on the skiff?
>>
>> I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
>> memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
>> cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind
>Luke).
>>
>> So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to
>the
>> majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at
>the
>> end of ESB was?
>>
>> I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
>> "...and it was GREEN!"
>
>It was about as much of a surprise as learning, during ROTS, that Anakin
>Skywalker is Darth Vader i.e. it was no surprise at all. The picture book
>you mention was released before the movie. Having said that I'm sure there
>were many people who didn't read the book or who were deliberately avoiding
>spoilers and so it was probably surprising for them. Whether it was cool
>enough to enthrall a crowd I don't know.
I didn't think anything of it. Seriously, what was so surprising
about a green lightsabre?
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204471 ] |
Mi, 25 Januar 2006 14:11 |
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"The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:43d7497b$0$5756$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> This one's for the older members...
>
> Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how
much
> of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites
it
> on the skiff?
>
> I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
> memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
> cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind
Luke).
>
> So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to
the
> majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at
the
> end of ESB was?
>
> I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
> "...and it was GREEN!"
>
It wasn't that big a deal that the blade was green. It was a bigger deal
that it was a new hilt, though. I also seem to remember before the movie
came out that it was a big deal between ewoks being pronounced EEE-woks or
YOU-woks (as in Ewan).
There was much more going on to enthrall the audience. Vader wasn't lying.
Han was alive. Yoda was back - and dead in pretty quick succession. And,
most importantly of all, we finally got to see this Jabba the Hutt
character.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204480 ] |
Do, 26 Januar 2006 04:54 |
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The General wrote:
> This one's for the older members...
>
> Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how much
> of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites it
> on the skiff?
>
> I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
> memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
> cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind Luke).
>
> So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to the
> majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at the
> end of ESB was?
>
> I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
> "...and it was GREEN!"
>
>
>
I remember seeing Jedi for the first time, but I don't think i gave much
thought to the lightsaber being green. I would of been 7 maybe when i
saw that (on video, not even in the theatre), so I don't really thing it
was a big deal.
now mace windu with a pink lightsaber, i found it shocking they'd give
the bad motha fucker a pink lightsaber.. haha
- Brian
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204491 ] |
Do, 26 Januar 2006 13:59 |
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"Brian (aka Zod)" <brianvdk [at] NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:BJXBf.194811$OU5.190936 [at] clgrps13...
> The General wrote:
> > This one's for the older members...
> >
> > Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how
much
> > of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first
ignites it
> > on the skiff?
> >
> > I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have
dim
> > memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on
the
> > cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind
Luke).
> >
> > So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to
the
> > majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at
the
> > end of ESB was?
> >
> > I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
> > "...and it was GREEN!"
> >
> >
> >
>
> I remember seeing Jedi for the first time, but I don't think i gave much
> thought to the lightsaber being green. I would of been 7 maybe when i
> saw that (on video, not even in the theatre), so I don't really thing it
> was a big deal.
>
> now mace windu with a pink lightsaber, i found it shocking they'd give
> the bad motha fucker a pink lightsaber.. haha
>
> - Brian
Thought it was purple myself but anyway...
Thanks for your responses.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204527 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 06:22 |
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Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then nor
am I now.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204530 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 07:11 |
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The only thing that was cool about the FIRST time that I saw ROTJ was
EVERYTHING. I never paid attention to the color of the saber much. I did
remember thinking, after I saw it a few more times, that it used to be
green, but then remembered that he lost his saber in ESB, along with his
hand. In ROTJ, Vader points out that Luke built his own saber.
Not really a surprise.
--
Chuck
"The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:43d7497b$0$5756$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> This one's for the older members...
>
> Essentially, what I wish to know is: back when you first saw JEDI, how
much
> of a surprise to you was the colour of Luke's saber when he first ignites
it
> on the skiff?
>
> I know it was blue in the trailer and blue on the poster(s) but I have dim
> memories (being 7 at the time) of perhaps seeing that it was green on the
> cover of the photo storybook (the one with the red barge sails behind
Luke).
>
> So, was it the world's worst kept secret or was it a genuine surprise to
the
> majority of the movie going public, like I understand the revelation at
the
> end of ESB was?
>
> I can picture a school kid, circa 1983, boasting to an enthralled crowd:
> "...and it was GREEN!"
>
>
>
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204531 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 07:12 |
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In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then nor
> am I now.
I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
that I was there to watch. :-)
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204532 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 07:14 |
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I mean was BLUE in ESB and then in ROTJ GREEN . . . sheesh - time for bed!
--
Chuck
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204533 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 07:39 |
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In article <gfqdnX_ZtdRXlkbeRVn-rg [at] comcast.com>, "Chuck"
<yadayada [at] blah.blah> wrote:
> I mean was BLUE in ESB and then in ROTJ GREEN . . . sheesh - time for bed!
Lazy!! It's only 7:30pm. ;-)
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204549 ] |
So, 29 Januar 2006 14:19 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then nor
> > am I now.
>
> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
> that I was there to watch. :-)
I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously symbolic
in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue schemes of
the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from the
public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
Of course, with all the different sabers about in the prequels, it pretty
much loses most the significance I believe it once had.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204551 ] |
So, 29 Januar 2006 17:04 |
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"The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:43dcc22e$0$1842$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
>
> "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
>> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
>> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then nor
>> > am I now.
>>
>> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
>> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
>> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
>> that I was there to watch. :-)
>
> I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously
> symbolic
> in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue schemes
> of
> the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from the
> public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after the
original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that a blue saber
just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue skies of Tatooine in the
sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the rotoscoping room and the saber
turned green.
IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204555 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 00:02 |
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In article
<rI5Df.308583$qk4.289163 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote:
> "The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
> news:43dcc22e$0$1842$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> >
> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> >> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> >> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then nor
> >> > am I now.
> >>
> >> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
> >> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
> >> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
> >> that I was there to watch. :-)
> >
> > I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously
> > symbolic
> > in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue schemes
> > of
> > the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from the
> > public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
>
> Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after the
> original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that a blue saber
> just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue skies of Tatooine in the
> sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the rotoscoping room and the saber
> turned green.
>
> IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
Yep, that's the reason. :-)
A trailer is usually based on the unfinished movie, so there's often
things that change between the trailer and the released movie. Usually
the reason is nothing major, other than the direcotr / producer
thinking "it looks better that way".
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204558 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 02:46 |
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<<In ROTJ, Vader points out that Luke built his own saber.>>
When he said that it didn't even jog my memory that he lost it in ESB!
So naturally why would I be suprised about it being green or purple or
whatever. Hmm wouldn't his saber have fallen down the same shaft that
Luke fell down? Maybe they should have tried to go down to the surface
later and find it.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204559 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 04:16 |
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In article <1138585617.415865.309300 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> <<In ROTJ, Vader points out that Luke built his own saber.>>
>
> When he said that it didn't even jog my memory that he lost it in ESB!
> So naturally why would I be suprised about it being green or purple or
> whatever. Hmm wouldn't his saber have fallen down the same shaft that
> Luke fell down? Maybe they should have tried to go down to the surface
> later and find it.
Cloud City floats in the upper layers of a huge gas planet, so there is
no surface. The lightsaber would have been sucked down to the centre by
gravity and crushed on the way down.
Plus, the "shaft" had all sorts of openings where the lightsaber could
gotten stuck. The chances of Luke finding it were pretty much nil. (I
vaguely recall reading about it leading to an incinerator, but I may be
confusing it with a different Star Wars shaft - there's plenty of
them). :-)
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #204560 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 14:11 |
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"SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
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>
> "The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
> news:43dcc22e$0$1842$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> >
> > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> >> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> >> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then
nor
> >> > am I now.
> >>
> >> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
> >> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
> >> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
> >> that I was there to watch. :-)
> >
> > I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously
> > symbolic
> > in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue
schemes
> > of
> > the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from the
> > public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
>
> Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after the
> original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that a blue
saber
> just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue skies of Tatooine in
the
> sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the rotoscoping room and the saber
> turned green.
>
> IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
Surely just as easy, if not easier, to change the posters as well? I think
they must've seen the symbolism, planned or unplanned.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #213128 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 21:13 |
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In article <43de2478$0$18435$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com>, "The General"
<bogus [at] address.com> wrote:
> "SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
> news:rI5Df.308583$qk4.289163 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > "The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
> > news:43dcc22e$0$1842$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> > >
> > > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > > news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> > >> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > >> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> > >> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details then
> nor
> > >> > am I now.
> > >>
> > >> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't really go
> > >> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was or
> > >> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule detail
> > >> that I was there to watch. :-)
> > >
> > > I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously
> > > symbolic
> > > in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue
> schemes
> > > of
> > > the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from the
> > > public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
> >
> > Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after the
> > original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that a blue
> saber
> > just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue skies of Tatooine in
> the
> > sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the rotoscoping room and the saber
> > turned green.
> >
> > IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
>
> Surely just as easy, if not easier, to change the posters as well? I think
> they must've seen the symbolism, planned or unplanned.
Trailers, posters, etc. are usually produced and distributed well in
advance of the movie's release, while changes to the movie itself can
still be made up to the "last minute" - in the case of film editing
that can mean only a few weeks, but these days of digital movies
changes can be (and have been) made just days before the release.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #213129 ] |
Mo, 30 Januar 2006 23:49 |
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"Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
news:310120060913319498%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> In article <43de2478$0$18435$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com>, "The General"
> <bogus [at] address.com> wrote:
>
> > "SpammersDie" <xx [at] xx.xx> wrote in message
> > news:rI5Df.308583$qk4.289163 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > >
> > > "The General" <bogus [at] address.com> wrote in message
> > > news:43dcc22e$0$1842$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Anybody" <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:280120061912026625%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com...
> > > >> In article <1138425746.603641.196820 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > >> "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Not only didn't I notice then, but I wouldn't have known it was
> > > >> > anything but the old blue NOW. I wasn't into the fine details
then
> > nor
> > > >> > am I now.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was going to say back when this topic started that I didn't
really go
> > > >> to the cinema to take note of what colour someone's lightsaber was
or
> > > >> wasn't - there was actually a whole movie around that miniscule
detail
> > > >> that I was there to watch. :-)
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't dismiss it as a 'miniscule detail' myself. Its obviously
> > > > symbolic
> > > > in nature and a noticeable departure from the strict red and blue
> > schemes
> > > > of
> > > > the previous films. Lucas and Co took lengths to keep it secret from
the
> > > > public so evidently they thought it carried some kinda importance...
> > >
> > > Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after
the
> > > original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that a blue
> > saber
> > > just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue skies of Tatooine
in
> > the
> > > sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the rotoscoping room and the
saber
> > > turned green.
> > >
> > > IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
> >
> > Surely just as easy, if not easier, to change the posters as well? I
think
> > they must've seen the symbolism, planned or unplanned.
>
> Trailers, posters, etc. are usually produced and distributed well in
> advance of the movie's release, while changes to the movie itself can
> still be made up to the "last minute" - in the case of film editing
> that can mean only a few weeks, but these days of digital movies
> changes can be (and have been) made just days before the release.
That's fair enough but I was thinking of foreign posters and video covers
and so on.
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #213131 ] |
Di, 31 Januar 2006 07:39 |
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In article <43de98cc$0$1705$c3e8da3 [at] news.astraweb.com>, "The General"
<bogus [at] address.com> wrote:
> > > > Sorry to disillusion you but the reason the saber turned green after
> > > > the original trailers showed it to be blue was that Lucas felt that
> > > > a blue saber just didn't contrast enough against the bright blue
> > > > skies of Tatooine in the sailbarge battle. So a quick trip to the
> > > > rotoscoping room and the saber turned green.
> > > >
> > > > IOW, a miniscule detail with no symbolism implied.
> > >
> > > Surely just as easy, if not easier, to change the posters as well? I
> > > think they must've seen the symbolism, planned or unplanned.
> >
> > Trailers, posters, etc. are usually produced and distributed well in
> > advance of the movie's release, while changes to the movie itself can
> > still be made up to the "last minute" - in the case of film editing
> > that can mean only a few weeks, but these days of digital movies
> > changes can be (and have been) made just days before the release.
>
> That's fair enough but I was thinking of foreign posters and video covers
> and so on.
Even many of the "foreign" posters are made long before the movie is
finished, plus many are simply based on the US version.
Some of the "foreign" posters are truely weird or vague. This is
because the artists creating them simply weren't told anything. There's
one good example is the Polish poster for RotJ - the artist was told
something important was happening with Vader but not what it was, so he
designed a poster where Vader's helmet was exploding.
http://go.owu.edu/~jsrosen/posters/rotj-polandvader.jpg
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| Re: First ROTJ experience question [message #217209 ] |
Sa, 11 Februar 2006 20:25 |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:46:57 GMT, "frenchy" <mf101723 [at] msn.com> wrote the
following in alt.fan.starwars:
> <<In ROTJ, Vader points out that Luke built his own saber.>>
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> When he said that it didn't even jog my memory that he lost it in ESB!
> So naturally why would I be suprised about it being green or purple or
> whatever. Hmm wouldn't his saber have fallen down the same shaft that
> Luke fell down? Maybe they should have tried to go down to the
> surface later and find it.
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SPOILER SPACE.....
In "The Last Command" by Timothy Zahn the dark Jedi *did* find both the
saber and hand and made an Evil-Luke clone, who was killed by Mara.
At the end of the book, Luke gives the saber to Mara.
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