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50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #200732] Mi, 11 Januar 2006 16:24
serval  
Hi,

I would like to know if there's a lot of differences between these 2
versions.


50th edition version :
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618517650/qid=1136992 802/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_11_2/403-6957924-3582837

1991 edition
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395595118/qid=1136992 956/sr=1-53/ref=sr_1_2_53/403-6957924-3582837

I hesitate because of the price. Do you think the 50th version is better
and justify price difference ?

Thanks in advance.
Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #200735 ] Mi, 11 Januar 2006 19:39
"davémon"  
serval arranged shapes to form:

> I would like to know if there's a lot of differences between these 2
> versions.
>
> 50th edition version, 1991 edition

The only reason to get the 1991 is if you like Alan Lee's work (I find it
is ghastly), but even then you can get the same artwork in other books.

The 50th, is leatherbound, gilt-edged, with fold-out maps, and a slip-case
I haven't held it to judge the typography and weight of paper, but it looks
a completely different league of book to the 1991 edition.

Have a look at this review:
http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/reviews/nowavailable.htm

> I hesitate because of the price. Do you think the 50th version is better
> and justify price difference ?

IMHO the 50th is more likely to hold and increase value over time. The 1991
had a limited, signed special edition, which tends to devalue the 'normal'
version of the same edition.


--

Davémon
http://www.nightsoil.co.uk/
Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #200736 ] Mi, 11 Januar 2006 21:02
Christopher Kreuzer  
serval <serval2412 [at] yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if there's a lot of differences between these 2
> versions.
>
> 50th edition version
>
> 1991 edition
>
> I hesitate because of the price. Do you think the 50th version is
> better and justify price difference ?

Someone pointed out differences in the artwork. There are differences in
the text as well. The 50th edition had many corrections made, but that
is no real reason to justify paying more for it, just maybe a reason to
avoid earlier editions on principle.

If I was buying paperbacks, I'd get the very latest edition for the most
up-to-date text. If I was buying nice, leather-bound, illustrated
editions, I'd get the editions with the artwork and binding that I liked
best.

So in this case I'd get both! :-)

Christopher

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Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #200757 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 01:38
Linards Ticmanis  
Davémon wrote:

> The 50th, is leatherbound, gilt-edged, with fold-out maps, and a slip-case

As much as I love LOTR, gilded edges on a book other than the bible (or
other liturgical books) somehow don't sit well with me, even though I'm
certainly not a very devout person. And I can't seem to remember ever
seeing a novel with gilded edges before. Is this only me? Are gilded
editions more common in the US than here in Europe, maybe?

That being said, did anybody get the Britsh 50th aniversary "deluxe"
edition? How is its quality in comparison to the US edition?

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Linards Ticmanis
Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #200764 ] Fr, 13 Januar 2006 09:56
Christopher Kreuzer  
Linards Ticmanis <ticmanis [at] gmx.de> wrote:

> That being said, did anybody get the Britsh 50th aniversary "deluxe"
> edition? How is its quality in comparison to the US edition?

It is not leather-bound or gilt-edged.

From the blurb, and looking at my copy:

"Quarter-bound in red, stamped in red and gold foil on grey boards, and
housed in a matching slipcase."

It also has a red silk ribbon marker.

So it is bound in cardboard, rather than leather. The slipcase has a
hole (for the eye on the front cover of the book), and the hole has gold
foil script surrounding it, same as found around the eye on the front
cover.

The front cover is Tolkien's original design, done in red and gold foil.
Red and gold for the central eye. Gold for everything else: the One Ring
round the Eye, flames snaking upwards, and (forming a triangle around
the One Ring) the three Elven Rings.

On the back cover, the JRRT monogram in gold foil.

Front and back cover are light grey backgrounds bound over the original
red cover, with, as they say, quarter of the front and back, and the
spine, left in that original red.

The spine uses gold foil for, from top to bottom, the JRRT monogram, the
author's name, the book title, the words "50th Anniversary Edition" and
the publisher's symbol (HarperCollins).

Having said all that, there are probably pictures somewhere on the web.

Christopher

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Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #203255 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 03:21
Louis Epstein  
Linards Ticmanis <ticmanis [at] gmx.de> wrote:
: Dav?mon wrote:
:
:> The 50th, is leatherbound, gilt-edged, with fold-out maps, and a slip-case
:
: As much as I love LOTR, gilded edges on a book other than the bible (or
: other liturgical books) somehow don't sit well with me, even though I'm
: certainly not a very devout person. And I can't seem to remember ever
: seeing a novel with gilded edges before. Is this only me? Are gilded
: editions more common in the US than here in Europe, maybe?

Are you familiar with Easton Press,for example?
Their books of every genre are always leather-bound,silk-endpapered,
and gilt-edged (they have done a 3-volume TLotR,but not yet with the
50th Anniversary text corrections).

Gilt edges are a sign of an expensive edition,
I've never seen them as pertaining to religious
works.

: That being said, did anybody get the Britsh 50th aniversary "deluxe"
: edition? How is its quality in comparison to the US edition?

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Re: 50th Edition versus 1991 edition [message #203266 ] Sa, 14 Januar 2006 18:16
&quot;davémon&quot;  
Christopher Kreuzer arranged shapes to form:

> Linards Ticmanis <ticmanis [at] gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> That being said, did anybody get the Britsh 50th aniversary "deluxe"
>> edition? How is its quality in comparison to the US edition?
>
> It is not leather-bound or gilt-edged.
>
> From the blurb, and looking at my copy:
>
> "Quarter-bound in red, stamped in red and gold foil on grey boards, and
> housed in a matching slipcase."
>
> So it is bound in cardboard, rather than leather.

is the quarterbinding cloth or paper?

>
> Having said all that, there are probably pictures somewhere on the web.
>

LOL!

Two comparable images:
HarperCollins:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0618517650.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_ .jpg

Houghton Mifflin:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0007182368.02.LZZZZZZZ. jpg

I took the opportunity to look at the HarperCollins 50th 3 volume hardbacks
(http://www.tolkien.co.uk/ - they're on the right under 'coming soon') at
my local bookshop. Until now these would have been my preferred version,
having Tolkiens original cover designs. However, the paper is quite thin
(although not india paper) and too much of the text from the next other
side is visible for my liking.

The single edition 50th HC paperback was next to it, and the density of
print made it unreadable to my eyes, I hope the hardback was given a little
more freedom of space and reasonable type sizes, but I assume only the
binding is different.

Anyone have a type-spec (or an image) of the interior of the HM 50th?

--

Davémon
http://www.nightsoil.co.uk/
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