| Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196860] |
Mi, 04 Januar 2006 02:03 |
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(or a Pippin Tolkmas,I suppose...)
He would have been 114 (1892-2006),not "eleventy-three" as the
other thread-starter proposed.
I've gotten the 50th Anniversary paperback TLotR from HMCo to go with
the leatherbound version,and I note correction of the family-tree
typos but not the Note on the Text typo,and the new index (which is
longer than but unfortunately does not conserve all the information
in the old).
I was surprised to see Hammond and Scull identify the Index of the
Second Edition as Nancy Smith's-as-revised-by-JRRT...the impression
I got from the Foreword was that Mrs. Smith had done a COMPLETE
index,one Tolkien thought *too* complete to go with the text as it
was and rather best used in a companion volume,while the index in
the book,as it said,was a selective one.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| Yer late...[was Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196869 ] |
Mi, 04 Januar 2006 11:56 |
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Louis Epstein wrote:
<Tolkien nerdiness>
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| Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196871 ] |
Mi, 04 Januar 2006 19:39 |
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In alt.fan.tolkien Michael O'Neill <onq [at] bwahahaha.indigo.ie> wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
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: <Tolkien nerdiness>
Yes...that's what this newsgroup is for.
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| Yer still late...[was Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196889 ] |
Do, 05 Januar 2006 12:33 |
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Louis Epstein wrote:
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> In alt.fan.tolkien Michael O'Neill <onq [at] bwahahaha.indigo.ie> wrote:
> : Louis Epstein wrote:
> :
> : <Tolkien nerdiness>
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> Yes...that's what this newsgroup is for.
Amongst other things, Nerd.
M.
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| Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly! (Re: Merry Tolkmas to All...) [message #196903 ] |
Fr, 06 Januar 2006 07:37 |
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Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly!
Like comets thru the sky!
Ye Wing'ed Balrogs fly
Bear the news!
Louis Epstein wrote:
>
> (or a Pippin Tolkmas,I suppose...)
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> He would have been 114 (1892-2006),not "eleventy-three" as the
> other thread-starter proposed.
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| Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196909 ] |
Fr, 06 Januar 2006 20:29 |
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Louis Epstein wrote:
> I was surprised to see Hammond and Scull identify the Index of the
> Second Edition as Nancy Smith's-as-revised-by-JRRT...the impression
> I got from the Foreword was that Mrs. Smith had done a COMPLETE
> index,one Tolkien thought *too* complete to go with the text as it
> was and rather best used in a companion volume,while the index in
> the book,as it said,was a selective one.
I think it's clear now why Wayne rarely if ever directly involved
himself in the index debates. There was nothing to help resolve the
specific questions hinging on who wrote the index.
I would like to see a more definitive edition of LOTR published, rather
the editions which have made the compromises explained in the READER'S
COMPANION.
--
A signature is just a signature, when all other things remain the same
too.
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| Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196916 ] |
Sa, 07 Januar 2006 02:24 |
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In alt.fan.tolkien Michael [at] xenite.org wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
:> I was surprised to see Hammond and Scull identify the Index of the
:> Second Edition as Nancy Smith's-as-revised-by-JRRT...the impression
:> I got from the Foreword was that Mrs. Smith had done a COMPLETE
:> index,one Tolkien thought *too* complete to go with the text as it
:> was and rather best used in a companion volume,while the index in
:> the book,as it said,was a selective one.
:
: I think it's clear now why Wayne rarely if ever directly involved
: himself in the index debates. There was nothing to help resolve the
: specific questions hinging on who wrote the index.
And the initial run of the 50th Anniversary Edition went out with
a flawed index.
: I would like to see a more definitive edition of LOTR published, rather
: the editions which have made the compromises explained in the READER'S
: COMPANION.
Perhaps for the 60th Anniversary...what does Christopher Tolkien
think?
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196921 ] |
Sa, 07 Januar 2006 07:01 |
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Louis Epstein wrote:
> In alt.fan.tolkien Michael [at] xenite.org wrote:
> : I would like to see a more definitive edition of LOTR published, rather
> : the editions which have made the compromises explained in the READER'S
> : COMPANION.
>
> Perhaps for the 60th Anniversary...what does Christopher Tolkien
> think?
I don't know if he has ever made a public statement with respect to the
matter. I infer from Wayne Hammond and Christina Scull's comments in
their book that they are more-or-less in charge of the process,
undoubtedly exercising considerable respect for various established
precedents and whatever knowledge they have of the Tolkien Estate's
wishes.
--
In every disagreement, there are two sides, each like the face of a
coin, neither seeing the other.
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| Re: Yer not late...[was Re: Merry Tolkmas to All... [message #196980 ] |
So, 08 Januar 2006 22:42 |
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In alt.fan.tolkien Michael O'Neill <onq [at] bwahahaha.indigo.ie> wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
:>
:> In alt.fan.tolkien Michael O'Neill <onq [at] bwahahaha.indigo.ie> wrote:
:> : Louis Epstein wrote:
:> :
:> : <Tolkien nerdiness>
:>
:> Yes...that's what this newsgroup is for.
:
: Amongst other things, Nerd.
Whatever appeared on the server,in my time zone I posted late
in the evening of Tolkmas Day.
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| Re: Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly! (Re: Merry Tolkmas to All...) [message #196981 ] |
So, 08 Januar 2006 22:43 |
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In alt.fan.tolkien Robinsons <wrob [at] erols.com> wrote:
: Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly!
: Like comets thru the sky!
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: Ye Wing'ed Balrogs fly
: Bear the news!
No no no.
"O Little Town of Bloemfontein..."
: Louis Epstein wrote:
:>
:> (or a Pippin Tolkmas,I suppose...)
:>
:> He would have been 114 (1892-2006),not "eleventy-three" as the
:> other thread-starter proposed.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| Re: Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly! (Re: Merry Tolkmas to All...) [message #200723 ] |
Di, 10 Januar 2006 23:32 |
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Robinsons wrote:
> Ye Wing'ed Balrogs Fly!
> Like comets thru the sky!
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> Ye Wing'ed Balrogs fly
> Bear the news!
i don't know if you had a sepcific tune in mind, but i'm getting
handelian coloratura going through my head.
"ye wing=E9d balrogs,
flah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-y!" etc. maybe you
had to be there.
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