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| Star Trek XI [message #195325] |
So, 08 Januar 2006 16:38 |
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Patrick Stewart says the Movie might be made in four years.
The Link: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/04/43bc328353aeb.shtml
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #195328 ] |
Mo, 09 Januar 2006 13:07 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick Stewart says the Movie might be made in four years.
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> The Link: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/04/43bc328353aeb.shtml
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They shouldn't even consider doing anything until they've got a really good
IDEA. Like happened with Batman Begins. A really enthused, fresh, talented
creative team (writer/director) with a damned good story to tell, probably
from a completely new perspective.
I don't think Stewart's that much of a crowd pull for Trek any more. Or a
nearly 80 year old Shatner, much as I admire him and Kirk. What they need is
a movie so good that the non-Trekkies and the critics will say "wow, great
movie!".
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #195330 ] |
Mo, 09 Januar 2006 15:23 |
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #195331 ] |
Mo, 09 Januar 2006 19:07 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1136734713.239186.88850 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Patrick Stewart says the Movie might be made in four years.
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> > The Link: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/04/43bc328353aeb.shtml
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> They shouldn't even consider doing anything until they've got a really
good
> IDEA. Like happened with Batman Begins. A really enthused, fresh, talented
> creative team (writer/director) with a damned good story to tell, probably
> from a completely new perspective.
>
> I don't think Stewart's that much of a crowd pull for Trek any more. Or a
> nearly 80 year old Shatner, much as I admire him and Kirk. What they need
is
> a movie so good that the non-Trekkies and the critics will say "wow, great
> movie!".
Yes indeed, that is what's needed.
My thought has always been a for a really good Klingon movie done right, at
least a PG 13 or hopefully a restricted rating for violence and whatever.
(we are talking Klingons here!) It would be set either right after Khitomer,
with Captain Sulu making a cameo or set right after the events of DS9 where
Matok heads back to Kronos as the Chancellor, of course JG Hertzler would
have to be in that one and possibly Michael Dorn. Of course I know Paramount
would never have the balls to do it, they would rather do *sure* things like
"Last Holiday" with that oh so bankable star Queen Latifah, or yet another
remake of "Yours Mine and Ours." ... Morons, a totally bankable franchise
like Trek, with built in fans, and they won't take a chance and put some
talent (and money) behind Trek to produce a *good* "every one will like" it
movie.
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Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199486 ] |
Mo, 09 Januar 2006 22:24 |
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"George Peatty" <pttyg47-1230 [at] copper.net> wrote in message
news:dptrke09bi [at] drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <43c250fd$0$904$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk>, Jaxtraw says...
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> [snip]
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> >They shouldn't even consider doing anything until they've got a really
good
> >IDEA. Like happened with Batman Begins. A really enthused, fresh,
talented
> >creative team (writer/director) with a damned good story to tell,
probably
> >from a completely new perspective.
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> >I don't think Stewart's that much of a crowd pull for Trek any more. Or a
> >nearly 80 year old Shatner, much as I admire him and Kirk. What they need
is
> >a movie so good that the non-Trekkies and the critics will say "wow,
great
> >movie!".
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>
> The bad news is that all members of the cast are too old for the roles we
want
> them to play.
Well, there's still a few good-ish years left in Riker, Troi, Gordie and
Worf, tho whether there's enough interest in them, I don't know.
> A new movie will need a new cast, either new characters, or new
> actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that any
fan -
> casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock. That leaves
new
> characters. But, who? My choice has been a TOS crew on one of the other
> starships of Kirk's era.
TBH, I don't think any of us fans are going to come up with a good idea- tho
I personally can see the merit in your suggestion. My pet imaginary Trek is
an alternative timeline one set a while after TOS, to allow for a certain
amount of rebooting and shedding of canon which IMHO has become so immense
it's a kind of weight that is holding the whole thing down now. Too much has
been told, perhaps. It's all too familiar. It needs room to breathe.
Personally for instance I'm sick of the "standard" look of everything. The
sets, the costumes, the technology.
But I think it's about getting somebody with a vision.
To use the Batman analogy again, the Idea for Batman Begins- let's take it
back to the start for a reboot- isn't particularly original. What makes it
work is a writer/director who crafted something special with that idea.
So I think the idea (e.g. yours, for another TOS show) is half the battle,
but the other half is very intangible. I think Trek needs somebody at the
helm who's looking at it through really new eyes. That may mean some changes
that we fans may find (initially) unpalatable or shocking. But really, the
whole thing's gone stale IMV, and it'll still be stale with Picard or Kirk
or anyone else in it, until somebody comes in and blows away the cobwebs.
Mind you, I think the start of the rot was abandoning the TOS miniskorts :)
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199487 ] |
Mo, 09 Januar 2006 23:40 |
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199511 ] |
Di, 10 Januar 2006 15:10 |
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I'm up for a TOS-era movie. There's lots of unexplored territory in
that era. Follow a different Constitution-class ship. People these days
love retro. What could be more retro than the awesome TOS era?
Paramount would of course have to make sure to have a great cast and
one helluva good story (that is not similar at all to previous Trek
films).
One other possibility would be to place a new movie between Enterprise
and TOS. I would like to see the evolution of the Federation and the
ships of the era.
A reboot is not a bad idea. I have thought about how that would work in
the past. Kind of a TOS: Redone. It is an interesting concept.
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199522 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 03:49 |
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The Merry Piper wrote:
> On 9 Jan 2006 06:23:10 -0800, George Peatty <pttyg47-1230 [at] copper.net>
> wrote:
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>>actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that any fan -
>>casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock.
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>
> I would.
So would I.
Does anybody know how many actors portrayed Sherlock Holmes, or Hamlet?
I think fresh actors in those roles would be great, as long as they
didn't do something stupid (like make James Kirk JAMIE KIRK, a woman).
Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past TPTB to try something stupid like
that.
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199527 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 04:06 |
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>>> actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that any fan -
>>> casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock.
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>> I would.
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> So would I.
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> Does anybody know how many actors portrayed Sherlock Holmes, or Hamlet?
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> I think fresh actors in those roles would be great, as long as they didn't do something stupid (like make James Kirk JAMIE KIRK, a woman). Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past TPTB to try something stupid like that.
Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great
granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over
the years, he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the
galaxy.
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199529 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 04:41 |
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Al Smith wrote:
>>>> actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that
>>>> any fan -
>>>> casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock.
>>>
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>>> I would.
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>> So would I.
>>
>> Does anybody know how many actors portrayed Sherlock Holmes, or Hamlet?
>>
>> I think fresh actors in those roles would be great, as long as they
>> didn't do something stupid (like make James Kirk JAMIE KIRK, a woman).
>> Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past TPTB to try something stupid
>> like that.
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> Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great
> granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over the
> years, he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the galaxy.
Hey, he doesn't even have to plant the seed himself to have a gal named
after him, as we saw in Court Martial. :)
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/jamie.htm
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199535 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 15:54 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
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> >>> actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that any
fan -
> >>> casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would.
> >
> >
> > So would I.
> >
> > Does anybody know how many actors portrayed Sherlock Holmes, or Hamlet?
> >
> > I think fresh actors in those roles would be great, as long as they
didn't do something stupid (like make James Kirk JAMIE KIRK, a woman).
Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past TPTB to try something stupid like
that.
>
> Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great
> granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over
> the years, he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the
> galaxy.
Talking of which, I wonder what happened to the Scalosians. Did Deela
conceive? Didn't anybody go back and try to help them?
Am I over-analysing an episode of a 60s adventure show? ;)
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199536 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 15:55 |
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199538 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 19:21 |
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>> Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over the years, he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the galaxy.
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> Hey, he doesn't even have to plant the seed himself to have a gal named after him, as we saw in Court Martial. :)
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> http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/jamie.htm
LOL! What a geat picture. That has got to be one of the ugliest
outfits ever worn by a woman.
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199539 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 19:56 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
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> >> Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great
granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over the years,
he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the galaxy.
> >
> >
> > Hey, he doesn't even have to plant the seed himself to have a gal named
after him, as we saw in Court Martial. :)
> >
> > http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/jamie.htm
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> LOL! What a geat picture. That has got to be one of the ugliest
> outfits ever worn by a woman.
It is remarkably bad, isn't it? :)
I think another of the most awful Trek costumes is A Taste Of Armaggedon's
single trouser over black trousers and turtlenecks. I get the feeling there
wasn't much of a costume budget for that one :)
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #199540 ] |
Mi, 11 Januar 2006 19:59 |
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"ToolPackinMama" <laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message
news:o9OdnQEiGdSg41neRVn-qw [at] comcast.com...
> Al Smith wrote:
> >>>> actors in the roles of familiar characters. I do not believe that
> >>>> any fan -
> >>>> casual or devoted - will accept new actors as Kirk or Spock.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So would I.
> >>
> >> Does anybody know how many actors portrayed Sherlock Holmes, or Hamlet?
> >>
> >> I think fresh actors in those roles would be great, as long as they
> >> didn't do something stupid (like make James Kirk JAMIE KIRK, a woman).
> >> Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past TPTB to try something stupid
> >> like that.
> >
> >
> > Jamie Kirk, I like it. She could be Kirk's great-great-great
> > granddaughter, or whatever. With all the seed Kirk planted over the
> > years, he's bound to have a crop of descendants wandering the galaxy.
>
> Hey, he doesn't even have to plant the seed himself to have a gal named
> after him, as we saw in Court Martial. :)
>
> http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/jamie.htm
My feeling is a lot of the "weirdness" in the script is down to bad editing
and rewrites. It seems to bear the scars. For instance, at one point it
seems to be written as if Jaime knows her father is alive, but then that's
never resolved. The lawyer disappears to get her, but that's never resolved
either, nor the reason for him going to get her made particularly clear. And
so on.
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #202218 ] |
Sa, 14 Januar 2006 17:50 |
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<snip> set right after the events of DS9 where
> Matok heads back to Kronos as the Chancellor, of course JG Hertzler would
> have to be in that one and possibly Michael Dorn.....
Holy shit! That's actually something I'd watch! Sadly, it ain't gonna
happen. :(
> Qapla'
> Kweeg
> Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
> http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
> "Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #202232 ] |
So, 15 Januar 2006 04:06 |
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"Matty-o" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4rqdnTbpUrFOtlTeRVn-jw [at] comcast.com...
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> <snip> set right after the events of DS9 where
> > Matok heads back to Kronos as the Chancellor, of course JG Hertzler
would
> > have to be in that one and possibly Michael Dorn.....
>
> Holy shit! That's actually something I'd watch! Sadly, it ain't gonna
> happen. :(
Never give up never surrender!
..... oh...sorry.... wrong captain...
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #202256 ] |
So, 15 Januar 2006 12:35 |
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allemannster [at] gmail.com (allemannster [at] gmail.com) wrote:
: Patrick Stewart says the Movie might be made in four years.
Surprising statement, since technically they still haven't made Star Trek
VII, VIII, IX, or X yet. They did make four Next Generation movies
though.
Brad
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #202299 ] |
Mo, 16 Januar 2006 13:24 |
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I defer to Scotty on this one when he said "if my grandmother had wheels,
she'd be a wagon."
<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Patrick Stewart says the Movie might be made in four years.
>
> The Link: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/04/43bc328353aeb.shtml
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #203965 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 14:43 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:U_iyf.344305$ki.203882 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "Matty-o" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4rqdnTbpUrFOtlTeRVn-jw [at] comcast.com...
>>
>> <snip> set right after the events of DS9 where
>> > Matok heads back to Kronos as the Chancellor, of course JG Hertzler
> would
>> > have to be in that one and possibly Michael Dorn.....
>>
>> Holy shit! That's actually something I'd watch! Sadly, it ain't gonna
>> happen. :(
>
> Never give up never surrender!
> .... oh...sorry.... wrong captain...
>
> --
>
> Qapla'
> Kweeg
> Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
> http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
> "Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
Serisously, though.....
I know I'd watch a movie enirely about Klingons, as would most people in
this group. But is there a chance in hell a movie like that would actually
make money?
Matty-o
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #203970 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 18:56 |
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"Matty-o" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:U_iyf.344305$ki.203882 [at] pd7tw2no...
> > "Matty-o" <nospam [at] nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:4rqdnTbpUrFOtlTeRVn-jw [at] comcast.com...
> >>
> >> <snip> set right after the events of DS9 where
> >> > Matok heads back to Kronos as the Chancellor, of course JG Hertzler
> > would
> >> > have to be in that one and possibly Michael Dorn.....
> >>
> >> Holy shit! That's actually something I'd watch! Sadly, it ain't gonna
> >> happen. :(
> >
> > Never give up never surrender!
> > .... oh...sorry.... wrong captain...
> >
>
> Serisously, though.....
> I know I'd watch a movie enirely about Klingons, as would most people in
> this group. But is there a chance in hell a movie like that would
actually
> make money?
That's my point ... if it was done right there's no reason why it wouldn't.
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #203974 ] |
Do, 19 Januar 2006 23:21 |
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More News: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back Kirk.
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #204021 ] |
Sa, 21 Januar 2006 02:09 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> More News: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
>
> Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back Kirk.
>
Not if he's in a basically TNG film. He needs to go out in style, not as a
guest star.
Anyway, what's needed, as with all movies, is a darned good story. The right
script. A good subject matter, poorly executed, would still be crap.
I just pray to every god ever imagined that they don't actually make one of
these prequel ideas. The last thing we need is another Enterprise-style
debacle.
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #204023 ] |
Sa, 21 Januar 2006 03:52 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:43d188ba$0$28448$fa0fcedb [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1137709311.232238.173030 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > More News: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
> >
> > Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back Kirk.
> >
>
> Not if he's in a basically TNG film. He needs to go out in style, not as a
> guest star.
Ineed.
> Anyway, what's needed, as with all movies, is a darned good story. The
right
> script. A good subject matter, poorly executed, would still be crap.
Concur.
> I just pray to every god ever imagined that they don't actually make one
of
> these prequel ideas. The last thing we need is another Enterprise-style
> debacle.
Wishful thinking I know, but if they did it right, the Romulan Earth war
epic would be cool. Something that feels like classic pulpy sci-fi, that
just uses and established Trek universe. (keeping the established canon and
throwing out the fan-on. (Like the absurd fanon belief that the Romulan
didn't posses a FTL capability in their ships at that time)
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #204202 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 15:10 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:TlhAf.189143$tl.127449 [at] pd7tw3no...
> "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> news:43d188ba$0$28448$fa0fcedb [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137709311.232238.173030 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > More News: http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
> > >
> > > Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back
Kirk.
> > >
> >
> > Not if he's in a basically TNG film. He needs to go out in style, not as
a
> > guest star.
>
> Ineed.
>
>
> > Anyway, what's needed, as with all movies, is a darned good story. The
> right
> > script. A good subject matter, poorly executed, would still be crap.
>
> Concur.
>
>
> > I just pray to every god ever imagined that they don't actually make one
> of
> > these prequel ideas. The last thing we need is another Enterprise-style
> > debacle.
>
> Wishful thinking I know, but if they did it right, the Romulan Earth war
> epic would be cool. Something that feels like classic pulpy sci-fi, that
> just uses and established Trek universe. (keeping the established canon
and
> throwing out the fan-on. (Like the absurd fanon belief that the Romulan
> didn't posses a FTL capability in their ships at that time)
>
Despite the fact that obviously a Romulan society without FTL couldn't
create much of a "star empire", let alone zip back and forth across the
Neutral Zone, we are stuck with Scotty's infamous "their power is simple
impulse" which seems unequivocal on the matter.
BoT as I've said elsewhere on this ng is a great episode but it just doesn't
fit technical canon at all. Phasers are pulse weapons with fuses(!) and in
order to fire the things, Kirk tells Sulu, Sulu tells a guy in the phaser
room, the guy shouts to another guy in the phaser room who then actually
gets to push a button to fire the phasers. Silly.
So it's best to ignore the "technical canon" of that episode I think. The
storyline canon tho; that the Earth Romulan war was a primitive one with
very basic ships, should have been retained. I can't be bothered to watch it
again right now, but I wonder if Spock's remarks about the basic technology
could be interpreted as applying only to the Earth side of the war. The
Romulans must have been spacefaring long before Earth was doing so.
And where were the Vulcans during the Earth-Romulan war? It must be
pre-Federation at the very least.
Ian
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| Re: Star Trek XI [message #204203 ] |
Sa, 28 Januar 2006 15:17 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:TlhAf.189143$tl.127449 [at] pd7tw3no...
> > "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> > news:43d188ba$0$28448$fa0fcedb [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > > <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1137709311.232238.173030 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > More News:
http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
> > > >
> > > > Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back
> Kirk.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not if he's in a basically TNG film. He needs to go out in style, not
as
> a
> > > guest star.
> >
> > Ineed.
> >
> >
> > > Anyway, what's needed, as with all movies, is a darned good story. The
> > right
> > > script. A good subject matter, poorly executed, would still be crap.
> >
> > Concur.
> >
> >
> > > I just pray to every god ever imagined that they don't actually make
one
> > of
> > > these prequel ideas. The last thing we need is another
Enterprise-style
> > > debacle.
> >
> > Wishful thinking I know, but if they did it right, the Romulan Earth war
> > epic would be cool. Something that feels like classic pulpy sci-fi, that
> > just uses and established Trek universe. (keeping the established canon
> and
> > throwing out the fan-on. (Like the absurd fanon belief that the Romulan
> > didn't posses a FTL capability in their ships at that time)
> >
>
> Despite the fact that obviously a Romulan society without FTL couldn't
> create much of a "star empire", let alone zip back and forth across the
> Neutral Zone, we are stuck with Scotty's infamous "their power is simple
> impulse" which seems unequivocal on the matter.
Sorry, answering myself here. Apologies for bad netiquette.
But it just did occur to me that there is one way out of it, which as I type
this I think I've read elsewhere and half-forgotten I've read :)
Starships can't fight at warp speed, so any battle (as they're discussing in
the briefing room) is going to be at impulse speeds. As such Scotty is just
confirming that the Romulan impulse drive is no better than the
Enterprise's- their ships are comparable under battle conditions, which is
what Kirk needs to know from an engineering perspective.
That kind of makes sense.
Ian
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
> news:43db7a37$0$29577$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> > "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:TlhAf.189143$tl.127449 [at] pd7tw3no...
> > > "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
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> > > > <allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1137709311.232238.173030 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > More News:
> http://trekweb.com/articles/2006/01/19/43cf8e998e47f.shtml
> > > > >
> > > > > Rumor mill's really spinning. I would love to see them bring back
> > Kirk.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not if he's in a basically TNG film. He needs to go out in style,
not
> as
> > a
> > > > guest star.
> > >
> > > Ineed.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyway, what's needed, as with all movies, is a darned good story.
The
> > > right
> > > > script. A good subject matter, poorly executed, would still be crap.
> > >
> > > Concur.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just pray to every god ever imagined that they don't actually make
> one
> > > of
> > > > these prequel ideas. The last thing we need is another
> Enterprise-style
> > > > debacle.
> > >
> > > Wishful thinking I know, but if they did it right, the Romulan Earth
war
> > > epic would be cool. Something that feels like classic pulpy sci-fi,
that
> > > just uses and established Trek universe. (keeping the established
canon
> > and
> > > throwing out the fan-on. (Like the absurd fanon belief that the
Romulan
> > > didn't posses a FTL capability in their ships at that time)
> > >
> >
> > Despite the fact that obviously a Romulan society without FTL couldn't
> > create much of a "star empire", let alone zip back and forth across the
> > Neutral Zone, we are stuck with Scotty's infamous "their power is simple
> > impulse" which seems unequivocal on the matter.
>
> Sorry, answering myself here. Apologies for bad netiquette.
>
> But it just did occur to me that there is one way out of it, which as I
type
> this I think I've read elsewhere and half-forgotten I've read :)
>
> Starships can't fight at warp speed, so any battle (as they're discussing
in
> the briefing room) is going to be at impulse speeds. As such Scotty is
just
> confirming that the Romulan impulse drive is no better than the
> Enterprise's- their ships are comparable under battle conditions, which is
> what Kirk needs to know from an engineering perspective.
>
> That kind of makes sense.
Hey, I was gonna say something like that...
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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