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| Longest Shelf Life [message #189947] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 08:00 |
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Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
--
"Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189948 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 09:39 |
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> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
None of them.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189949 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 10:53 |
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"Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com> wrote in message
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> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
Still watching TOS and loving it, it's still got that pulpy sci-fi feel to
it. TNG is (IMO) is now looking very dated.
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189950 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 13:32 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
i think it'll be different with dvd's around. I remember pre-dvd era,
alot of my favorite shows from being a kid weren't on tv (a-team!), so
these days i just buy the boxsets. Commerical free, they don't take as
much space of a seaosn of video tapes, don't cost nearly as much either.
tehn again in 20 years there might be 2000 channels, so anything could
be on, but I think dvd's (and whatever replaces them) will hurt
syndication in the long run.
- Brian
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189952 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 13:41 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
>
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Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all Sci-Fi
because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
And that's O'Neill............... with 2 "L"s
Gen. J. O'Neill
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Glassman wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid2m6rf.8132$Kp3.1403 [at] fe08.lga" type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
</pre>
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<font size="+1"><font face="Arial">Hey, some politically correct gov't
group will probably kill off all Sci-Fi<br>
because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.<br>
<br>
BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.<br>
Enjoy your <font color="#ff0000"><b><big>CHRISTMAS</big> </b></font>TREE
not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !<br>
And that's O'Neill............... with 2 "L"s<br>
<br>
<i>Gen. J. O'Nei<b>ll</b></i><br>
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189954 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 15:07 |
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"Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
news:olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga...
> Glassman wrote:
>
> > Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> >syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> >rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> >Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
that
> >I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> >sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
in
> >reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
> >
> >
> >
> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all
Sci-Fi
> because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The War
On Terror or have enough "family values".
> BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
> Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's birthday
on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, try
putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your house
with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
zombie god that sends babies to hell.
Ian
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189955 ] |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
>"Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga...
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>>Glassman wrote:
>>
>>
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>>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>>>syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>>>rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>>>Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
>>>
>>>
>that
>
>
>>>I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>>>sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
>>>
>>>
>in
>
>
>>>reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all
>>
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>Sci-Fi
>
>
>>because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
>>
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>
>More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The War
>On Terror or have enough "family values".
>
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>
>>BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
>>Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
>>
>>
>
>It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's birthday
>on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, try
>putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your house
>with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
>
>This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
>mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
>zombie god that sends babies to hell.
>
>Ian
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>
Stop being ridicules. One can celebrate their faith without having
straw on the floor or a shepherd in the corner.
The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy
THEIR faith
without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR"
religion is the ONLY
true religion on the planet, ya know, the holy war crowd.. We should
take "these" people and send them to PCX-3563
And I will enjoy the Christmas tree as you will enjoy whatever you
believe in, and that's OK and the way it should be!!! And that's my point.
Gen. J. O'Neill
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Jaxtraw wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">"Jack O'Neill" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tokras [at] optonline.net"><tokras [at] optonline.net></a> wrote in message
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<pre wrap="">Glassman wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap=""> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->that
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
</pre>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->in
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->Sci-Fi
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The War
On Terror or have enough "family values".
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's birthday
on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, try
putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your house
with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
zombie god that sends babies to hell.
Ian
</pre>
</blockquote>
<font size="+1"><font face="Arial">Stop being ridicules. One can
celebrate their faith without having straw on the floor or a shepherd
in the corner.<br>
The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy
THEIR faith<br>
without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR"
religion is the ONLY <br>
true religion on the planet, ya know, the holy war crowd.. We should
take "these" people and send them to PCX-3563<br>
And I will enjoy the Christmas tree as you will enjoy whatever you
believe in, and that's OK and the way it should be!!! And that's my
point.<br>
<i><br>
Gen. J. O'Neill</i><br>
<br>
<br>
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189956 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 15:45 |
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"Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message =
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Jaxtraw wrote:
"Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
news:olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga...
Glassman wrote:
Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again =
in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, =
but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show =
like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
that
I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What =
modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be =
watching
in
reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off =
all
Sci-Fi
because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
=20
More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The =
War
On Terror or have enough "family values".
BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
=20
It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's =
birthday
on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, =
try
putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your =
house
with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to =
the
zombie god that sends babies to hell.
Ian
Stop being ridicules. One can celebrate their faith without having =
straw on the floor or a shepherd in the corner.
The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy =
THEIR faith
without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR" =
religion is the ONLY=20
true religion on the planet, ya know, the holy war crowd.. We should =
take "these" people and send them to PCX-3563
And I will enjoy the Christmas tree as you will enjoy whatever you =
believe in, and that's OK and the way it should be!!! And that's my =
point.
Gen. J. O'Neill
SG-1 has been on for around 12 years hasn't it? I'd say that =
consitutes sticking around in the future.
Happy Festivus!
BC
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<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">Glassman wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D""> Some shows are great but =
you can't watch them over and over again in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, =
but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show =
like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->that
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">I'm finally sick of the =
Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be =
watching
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->in
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">reruns 10-20 years from =
now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D"">Hey, some politically correct =
gov't group will probably kill off all
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->Sci-Fi
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">because there is no =
stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->
More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The =
War
On Terror or have enough "family values".
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><PRE wrap=3D"">BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to =
all.
Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=3D""><!---->
It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's =
birthday
on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, =
try
putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your =
house
with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to =
the
zombie god that sends babies to hell.
Ian
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3D+1><FONT face=3DArial>Stop being ridicules. =
One can=20
celebrate their faith without having straw on the floor or a shepherd =
in the=20
corner.<BR>The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able =
to=20
enjoy THEIR faith<BR>without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups =
that=20
think "THEIR" religion is the ONLY <BR>true religion on the planet, ya =
know,=20
the holy war crowd.. We should take "these" people and send them =
to=20
PCX-3563<BR>And I will enjoy the Christmas tree as you will enjoy =
whatever you=20
believe in, and that's OK and the way it should be!!! And that's =
my=20
point.<BR><I><BR>Gen. J. O'Neill</I><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D+1><FONT=20
face=3DArial><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D+1><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>SG-1 has been =
on for around=20
12 years hasn't it? I'd say that consitutes sticking around in =
the=20
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Festivus!</FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 16:19 |
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in article 43ad5513$0$23282$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk, Jaxtraw at
jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com wrote on 12/24/05 7:07 AM:
> "Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga...
>> Glassman wrote:
>>
>>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
> that
>>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
> in
>>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all
> Sci-Fi
>> because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
>
> More likely, the Right PC will kill them because they don't support The War
> On Terror or have enough "family values".
yawn.
>
>> BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
>> Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
>
> It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's birthday
> on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, try
> putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your house
> with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
>
> This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
> mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
> zombie god that sends babies to hell.
>
> Ian
>
>
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Glassman wrote:=20
Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, =
but
rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show =
like
Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point =
that
I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be =
watching in
reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all =
Sci-Fi
because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
And that's O'Neill............... with 2 "L"s
Gen. J. O'Neill
I used to look forward to movies based upon Tom Clancy novels, =
but after seeing a preview of "Sum of All Fears" I was very =
dissappointed. I remember the 'bad guys' in the novel were muslim, but =
in the scenes of the preview they were all Nazi (white european =
descent). That was one movie that never made a dime off me! I =
understand a few changes in order to make a 600 page novel fit a 110 =
minute movie, but to change the entire plot to make it PC is =
unforgivable.
When I was young I saw "Raise the Titanic", I was very put off by =
the main character (Dirk Pitt) being a peacenik. Because of that movie, =
It was years before I actually READ a Cussler book (my father happened =
to have a copy of "Vixen 03" that came into possesion of). Only then =
did I find out that 'Dirk Pitt' was anything but a pussy peacenik. I =
can imagine that if Pitt had been portrayed in "Raise the Titanic" the =
same way he is portrayed in the novels then it might have led to a =
series of movies that would have been as succesful as the 'Bond' series.
Advice for Capt. Picard: Less yapping, more zapping.
While I am thinking about peaceniks, any one remember when our =
tanks rolled into the square in Bagdad? The people begin to fill the =
streets, and ironically one of our own soilders had to guard a pair of =
stupid "Human Shields" to keep them from getting hurt. One of the =
'Human Shield' was a man (I use the term 'man' in its widest possible =
sense for this POS) was acting indignant that the soilder (a real man) =
would not let him wander into the street. The other 'Human Shield' was =
a young female (late teens maybe twenty), most likely the first "Human =
Shield's" girlfriend, sister, or both". She was in her black t-shirt =
with her book bag backpack, looking real confused about the situation. =
I bet it was a real 'eye opener' to her see her boyfried standing near a =
real man, and be able to compare the two. This is a moment that stands =
out in my memory almost as much as the topling of Saddam's statue a =
little while later that morning. =20
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rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show =
like
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<DIV><FONT size=3D+1><FONT face=3DArial>Hey, some politically =
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in the novel were muslim, but in the scenes of the preview they were =
all Nazi=20
(white european descent). That was one movie that never made a =
dime off=20
me! I understand a few changes in order to make a 600 page novel =
fit a=20
110 minute movie, but to change the entire plot to make it PC is=20
unforgivable.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D+1><FONT face=3DArial> When I was =
young I saw=20
"Raise the Titanic", I was very put off by the main character (Dirk =
Pitt)=20
being a peacenik. Because of that movie, It was years before I =
actually=20
READ a Cussler book (my father happened to have a copy of "Vixen 03" =
that came=20
into possesion of). Only then did I find out that 'Dirk Pitt' =
was=20
anything but a pussy peacenik. I can imagine that if Pitt had =
been=20
portrayed in "Raise the Titanic" the same way he is portrayed in the =
novels=20
then it might have led to a series of movies that would have been as =
succesful=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D+1><FONT face=3DArial> Advice for =
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of our=20
own soilders had to guard a pair of stupid "Human Shields" to keep =
them from=20
getting hurt. One of the 'Human Shield' was a man (<EM>I use the =
term=20
'man' in its widest possible sense for this POS</EM>) was acting =
indignant that the soilder (<EM>a real man) </EM>would not let him =
wander into=20
the street<EM>. </EM>The other 'Human Shield' was a young =
female=20
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girlfriend,=20
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backpack, looking real confused about the situation. I bet it =
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189961 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 17:04 |
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Glassman wrote:
> What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching
> in reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
I think that DVD sales are severely impacted syndicated rerun sales. Those
that survive in reruns will likely be the ones that appeal to the
occasional viewer, with few (if any) multiple part episodes.
Now, on DVD, I think "Babylon 5" will hold up under repeated viewings longer
than any of the others I have on DVD, just because of the story complexity
and level of planning involved.
Blaine
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189962 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 18:00 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
Smallville...because of the uhm.....lips and ass....
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189963 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 18:00 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
>
> It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's birthday
> on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be Christian about it, try
> putting a shepherd in the corner of your room, or maybe filling your house
> with straw and cattle, and leaving all the doors open.
>
Go to wiki and do a search for the Christmas tree. I was quite surprised.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189964 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 19:31 |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:39:41 GMT, Al Smith <invalid [at] address.com>
wrote:
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
>None of them.
All of them (just to be contrary).
Cheers,
Jaime
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189965 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 19:43 |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:00:23 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
Myself, I'd wager on _Serenity_. I am pretty demanding viewer, and it
gets better the more I watch it. It works on many levels and, the
primary reason, it is *quality*, both artistically and as
entertainment.
I think much of _B5_ has a chance, but it is hard to say. I think
that much _TNG_, _DSN_ and _TOS_ will make it.
I don't see _Galactica_ making it, nor _Smallville_, even though it
has the resonance of comic and myth behind it. They'll both go the
way of _Space 1,999_. _Stargate: SG-1_, is hard to say, maybe (but
_Atlantis_ certainly won't). _Farscape_ was great too, but I don't
see it making it that way. I may be wrong. Early _X-Files_ and much
of _Millenium_ for me is fun to revisit, but I don't think they'll do
well in syndication, certainly not the latter.
_Buffy_ and _Angel_ anyone?
As for much of the rest, we've forgotten it already.
Cheers,
Jaime
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189966 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 19:44 |
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Brian(aka Zod) wrote:
> i think it'll be different with dvd's around. I remember pre-dvd era,
> alot of my favorite shows from being a kid weren't on tv (a-team!), so
> these days i just buy the boxsets. Commerical free, they don't take as
> much space of a seaosn of video tapes, don't cost nearly as much either.
Reruns will be around as long as there are are programs worth rerunning,
because they're so much less expensive than original programming. The
line "500 channels and nothing on" illustrates the situation in terms we
can all understand -- in an age when supply for TV channel-hours exceeds
the supply of entertainment-hours that appeal to the masses, many
cable/satellite channels (and some broadcast TV stations) turn to
narrowcasting, while others rely on relatively inexpensive reruns of
popular shows from years past. "I Love Lucy" reruns are more than 50
years old, but they're still entertaining enough to draw larger
audiences than a lot of original programming in that 500-channel universe.
A "narrowcast" program, by its very nature, misses all but a tiny sliver
of the total audience; narrowcasting succeeds only as long as the
production and distribution costs are low enough to make a profit
reaching those relatively few viewers. A broadcast TV station catering
only to sci-fi fans, or cartoon fans, or history buffs, or any other
narrow segment could never succeed even in the largest individual TV
markets; but with satellite and cable technologies, the entire country
becomes in effect a single large market where even a tiny sliver can
mean a few million viewers.
> tehn again in 20 years there might be 2000 channels, so anything could
> be on, but I think dvd's (and whatever replaces them) will hurt
> syndication in the long run.
DVDs are already having an impact on the profitability of reruns, and
they will continue to do so. But the copyright owners will counter by
cutting prices to stations and cable/satellite networks in order to keep
their offerings profitable as reruns. As long as there is a large
enough audience that doesn't already own the DVDs of a particular series
-- or they're traveling without their DVDs -- there will be an audience
for reruns. The audience may get smaller every year, but that only
means the copyright owners will have to charge less if they want to keep
selling reruns (and DVDs, for that matter).
Even when DVDs are available, the price may be high enough to make
reruns the preferred option for most viewers. For example, I'd love to
have complete DVD sets of "The Avengers", "The Prisoner", "Babylon 5"
and several other series, but they're priced higher than I'm willing to
pay at present. If I could watch these shows in reruns, I'd tune in
regularly; if there are enough people like me, those reruns would be
profitable through at least one or two airings of the complete series.
--
Walter Luffman Medina, TN USA
An equal opportunity annoyer
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189967 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 20:26 |
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Jaime M. de Castellvi wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:00:23 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>>syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>>rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>>Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>>I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>>sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>>reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
>
> Myself, I'd wager on _Serenity_. I am pretty demanding viewer, and it
> gets better the more I watch it. It works on many levels and, the
> primary reason, it is *quality*, both artistically and as
> entertainment.
>
> I think much of _B5_ has a chance, but it is hard to say. I think
> that much _TNG_, _DSN_ and _TOS_ will make it.
>
> I don't see _Galactica_ making it, nor _Smallville_, even though it
> has the resonance of comic and myth behind it. They'll both go the
> way of _Space 1,999_. _Stargate: SG-1_, is hard to say, maybe (but
> _Atlantis_ certainly won't). _Farscape_ was great too, but I don't
> see it making it that way. I may be wrong. Early _X-Files_ and much
> of _Millenium_ for me is fun to revisit, but I don't think they'll do
> well in syndication, certainly not the latter.
>
> _Buffy_ and _Angel_ anyone?
>
> As for much of the rest, we've forgotten it already.
The longer a series stays in production, the better its chances of
success in reruns. First, a lot of episodes means stations and
cable/satellite channels can "strip" the series five (or more) days per
week for a longer period before having to repeat episodes. Second, fans
who want the entire series have to spend more for ten seasons' worth
than for five; eventually the expense just becomes more than many fans
can justify. What this means is, a series like Stargate SG-1 or
Andromeda can remain profitable in reruns much longer than one like
Babylon 5, as long as all other factors are equal.
But all other factors are *not* equal, which means that a high-quality
show that runs only five -- or even fewer -- seasons can sometimes
remain popular enough to make money in reruns for a long time ... as
long as it is not rerun too often. I notice that B5 is not currently
being rerun on any channel I get, which makes me want to see it all the
more. Maybe I'll eventually break down and buy the DVDs, unless Time
Warner starts rerunning B5 sometime soon.
How many TV series and movies that I already own on DVD will I buy again
in High Definition DVD (or some new HD media)? Probably not that many.
I didn't go out and buy CD copies of my entire vinyl record
collection; I used the transition from vinyl to CD as a time to decide
just which of my old record albums I really wanted to continue listening
to regularly. A few albums met the test of time, and I bought them on
CD; I also bought a lot of "best of" and "anthology" CDs, and of course
all new music I bought was on CD. I expect to do the same with my DVDs
when hi-def becomes commonplace. And more than likely, Smallville will
not be among the ones I re-purchase, because as much as I like the show
it isn't one that really demands watching in hi-def IMHO. (Although if
Lois had actually stripped in her "bungling strip-tease" scene .... )
--
Walter Luffman Medina, TN USA
An equal opportunity annoyer
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189968 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 20:35 |
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EricT wrote:
> "Jack O'Neill" <tokras [at] optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga...
> Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally,
> but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show
> like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
> that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What
> modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be
> watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off
> all Sci-Fi
> because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
>
> BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS to all.
> Enjoy your CHRISTMAS TREE not the holiday tree!!!!! $# [at] !
> And that's O'Neill............... with 2 "L"s
>
> Gen. J. O'Neill
>
> I used to look forward to movies based upon Tom Clancy novels,
> but after seeing a preview of "Sum of All Fears" I was very
> dissappointed. I remember the 'bad guys' in the novel were muslim,
> but in the scenes of the preview they were all Nazi (white european
> descent). That was one movie that never made a dime off me! I
> understand a few changes in order to make a 600 page novel fit a 110
> minute movie, but to change the entire plot to make it PC is
> unforgivable.
>
> When I was young I saw "Raise the Titanic", I was very put off
> by the main character (Dirk Pitt) being a peacenik. Because of that
> movie, It was years before I actually READ a Cussler book (my father
> happened to have a copy of "Vixen 03" that came into possesion of).
> Only then did I find out that 'Dirk Pitt' was anything but a pussy
> peacenik. I can imagine that if Pitt had been portrayed in "Raise
> the Titanic" the same way he is portrayed in the novels then it might
> have led to a series of movies that would have been as succesful as
> the 'Bond' series.
>
> Advice for Capt. Picard: Less yapping, more zapping.
>
>
> While I am thinking about peaceniks, any one remember when our
> tanks rolled into the square in Bagdad? The people begin to fill the
> streets, and ironically one of our own soilders had to guard a pair
> of stupid "Human Shields" to keep them from getting hurt. One of the
> 'Human Shield' was a man (I use the term 'man' in its widest possible
> sense for this POS) was acting indignant that the soilder (a real
> man) would not let him wander into the street. The other 'Human
> Shield' was a young female (late teens maybe twenty), most likely the
> first "Human Shield's" girlfriend, sister, or both". She was in her
> black t-shirt with her book bag backpack, looking real confused about
> the situation. I bet it was a real 'eye opener' to her see her
> boyfried standing near a real man, and be able to compare the two.
> This is a moment that stands out in my memory almost as much as the
> topling of Saddam's statue a little while later that morning.
--
Is it difficult reading your gun magazines with all the pages stuck
together?
Ian
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189969 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 20:40 |
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No One wrote:
> Jaxtraw wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a pagan festival that christians also celebrate their god's
>> birthday on. The tree is a pagan symbol. If you want to be
>> Christian about it, try putting a shepherd in the corner of your
>> room, or maybe filling your house with straw and cattle, and leaving
>> all the doors open.
>>
>
> Go to wiki and do a search for the Christmas tree. I was quite
> surprised.
--
I did actually read that before posting, but I set little store by the
opinions of the Wikipedians anyway. It doesn't have any kind of authority at
all (unless you want an article on Klingon or the Simpsons, that is :) It's
sad that so many people seem to think it's some kind of worthwhile
knowledgebase. The sooner it finally runs out of funding (as it surely will,
unless they can flog it to google, which is also likely, where it can serve
yet more of their adverts) the better, IMHO. An interesting social
experiment, that's proved worthless as what it intends to be; an
encyclopaedia.
Ian
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189970 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 20:43 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally,
> but rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a
> show like Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to
> the point that I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every
> year. What modern sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time,
> and we'll be watching in reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1?
> Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
TOS is a special case really. It's become so iconic it transcends being
dated or unwatchable.
Other shows, like Babylon 5 for instance, aren't really watchable as repeats
because you know what happens in the end. I taped the whole run, never
rewatched a single one, ended up dumping the tapes last time I moved house.
Some of TNG is quite watchable tho, although the bad episodes (like that
terrible one with the mute diplomat and his chorus) look ever worse with the
passage of time. But then, And The Children Shall Lead hasn't aged too well
either :)
Ian
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189971 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 21:20 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
I think StarGate is a contender.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189972 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 21:22 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
> mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
> zombie god that sends babies to hell.
The hell part I understand, but zombie?
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189973 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 21:21 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote:
> Other shows, like Babylon 5 for instance, aren't really watchable as
> repeats because you know what happens in the end.
This is quite ludicrous statement. Or do you think that
"Shichinin no samurai" or "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
aren't really re-watchable since you know how they end? The
end or even the plot isn't everything. For instance, your
average Babylon 5 episode offers so much foreshadowing and
little tricks that you don't notice at first that you gain
substantially different viewing experience through repeated
viewings.
> I taped the whole run, never rewatched a single one, ended up
> dumping the tapes last time I moved house.
You missed a lot, I can assure you.
[Followups are directed only to the group rec.arts.sf.tv.]
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Erno Similä
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189974 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 21:27 |
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Jack O'Neill wrote:
> Stop being ridicules.
Hey, this is usenet. People can be ridicules all they want.
> One can celebrate their faith without having
> straw on the floor or a shepherd in the corner.
I'm sure I always do. :)
> The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy
> THEIR faith
> without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR"
> religion is the ONLY
> true religion on the planet
I agree with that. I don't mind prayer in school as long as prayers of
any/all faiths are allowed. I still think it shouldn't be in the
general classroom. A special room should be set aside for that sort of
thing.
I don't see why people should say Merry Xmas if what they really mean is
Happy Holidays. I don't wish that _Christians only_ will enjoy the
season. I hope that everybody does.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189976 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 22:07 |
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in article 415lnjF1d865vU1 [at] individual.net, BucketButt at
bucketbutt [at] bellsout.net wrote on 12/24/05 12:26 PM:
> Jaime M. de Castellvi wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:00:23 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>>
>>
>> Myself, I'd wager on _Serenity_. I am pretty demanding viewer, and it
>> gets better the more I watch it. It works on many levels and, the
>> primary reason, it is *quality*, both artistically and as
>> entertainment.
>>
>> I think much of _B5_ has a chance, but it is hard to say. I think
>> that much _TNG_, _DSN_ and _TOS_ will make it.
>>
>> I don't see _Galactica_ making it, nor _Smallville_, even though it
>> has the resonance of comic and myth behind it. They'll both go the
>> way of _Space 1,999_. _Stargate: SG-1_, is hard to say, maybe (but
>> _Atlantis_ certainly won't). _Farscape_ was great too, but I don't
>> see it making it that way. I may be wrong. Early _X-Files_ and much
>> of _Millenium_ for me is fun to revisit, but I don't think they'll do
>> well in syndication, certainly not the latter.
>>
>> _Buffy_ and _Angel_ anyone?
>>
>> As for much of the rest, we've forgotten it already.
>
> The longer a series stays in production, the better its chances of
> success in reruns.
Like Johnny Carson?
First, a lot of episodes means stations and
> cable/satellite channels can "strip" the series five (or more) days per
> week for a longer period before having to repeat episodes.
But stations don't WANT to do that. They don't want to spend the extra
money for more than maybe 13 to 20 weeks of episodes, because the ratings
for the additional years aren't any better than just running the show over
from the start, which is cheaper.
Second, fans
> who want the entire series have to spend more for ten seasons' worth
> than for five; eventually the expense just becomes more than many fans
> can justify. What this means is, a series like Stargate SG-1 or
> Andromeda can remain profitable in reruns much longer than one like
> Babylon 5, as long as all other factors are equal.
I have no idea what you said there. It sounds like you're arguing that
longer series make less money.
>
> But all other factors are *not* equal, which means that a high-quality
> show that runs only five -- or even fewer -- seasons can sometimes
> remain popular enough to make money in reruns for a long time ... as
> long as it is not rerun too often. I notice that B5 is not currently
> being rerun on any channel I get, which makes me want to see it all the
> more. Maybe I'll eventually break down and buy the DVDs, unless Time
> Warner starts rerunning B5 sometime soon.
>
> How many TV series and movies that I already own on DVD will I buy again
> in High Definition DVD (or some new HD media)? Probably not that many.
> I didn't go out and buy CD copies of my entire vinyl record
> collection; I used the transition from vinyl to CD as a time to decide
> just which of my old record albums I really wanted to continue listening
> to regularly. A few albums met the test of time, and I bought them on
> CD; I also bought a lot of "best of" and "anthology" CDs, and of course
> all new music I bought was on CD. I expect to do the same with my DVDs
> when hi-def becomes commonplace. And more than likely, Smallville will
> not be among the ones I re-purchase, because as much as I like the show
> it isn't one that really demands watching in hi-def IMHO. (Although if
> Lois had actually stripped in her "bungling strip-tease" scene .... )
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189978 ] |
Sa, 24 Dezember 2005 23:20 |
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I don't think SF has a very good shelf life anymore, since we seem to
be advancing so fast. On the other hand, fantasy, not subject to laws
of nature or science, may last longer. So look for Hercules and Xena
down the road.
Turk
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189979 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 00:15 |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:27:04 -0500, ToolPackinMama
<laura [at] lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
>Jack O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Stop being ridicules.
>
>Hey, this is usenet. People can be ridicules all they want.
>
And they frequently do.
>
>> One can celebrate their faith without having
>> straw on the floor or a shepherd in the corner.
>
>I'm sure I always do. :)
>
>> The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy
>> THEIR faith
>> without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR"
>> religion is the ONLY
>> true religion on the planet
>
>I agree with that. I don't mind prayer in school as long as prayers of
>any/all faiths are allowed. I still think it shouldn't be in the
>general classroom. A special room should be set aside for that sort of
>thing.
That I totally agree with.
>
>I don't see why people should say Merry Xmas if what they really mean is
>Happy Holidays. I don't wish that _Christians only_ will enjoy the
>season. I hope that everybody does.
I don't see anything wrong with saying Merry Xmas. What I see wrong
is being told you _CAN'T_ say Merry Xmas because it's not PC.
Fuck PC.
-LMB
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189980 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 00:47 |
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Jack O'Neill wrote:
> Glassman wrote:
>
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>>syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>>rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>>Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>>I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>>sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>>reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>>
>>
>>
> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off all Sci-Fi
> because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of the shows.
"Lost" has a main character who's Iraqi and was in Saddam's Republican
Guard.
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Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189981 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 00:49 |
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Glassman wrote:
> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
"Lost."
Because the story of castaways on a mysterious island is timeless. Just
like Robinson Crusoe or Jules Verne's "Mysterious Island."
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189983 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 01:30 |
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The point here is that ANY group or religion SHOULD be able to enjoy
THEIR faith
without being badgered or hassled by OTHER groups that think "THEIR"
religion is the ONLY
true religion on the planet,
----------------------------------------
You mean like the people who insist you have to say Merry Christmas
instead of Happy Holidays?
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189984 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 01:34 |
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While I am thinking about peaceniks, any one remember when our tanks
rolled into the square in Bagdad? The people begin to fill the
streets, and ironically one of our own soilders had to guard a pair of
stupid "Human Shields" to keep them from getting hurt. One of the
'Human Shield' was a man (I use the term 'man' in its widest possible
sense for this POS) was acting indignant that the soilder (a real man)
would not let him wander into the street. The other 'Human Shield' was
a young female (late teens maybe twenty), most likely the first "Human
Shield's" girlfriend, sister, or both". She was in her black t-shirt
with her book bag backpack, looking real confused about the situation.
I bet it was a real 'eye opener' to her see her boyfried standing near
a real man, and be able to compare the two. This is a moment that
stands out in my memory almost as much as the topling of Saddam's
statue a little while later that morning.
--------------------------
There's always something creepy about people who express their gender
issues through politics.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189985 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 02:41 |
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Steven L. wrote:
> Glassman wrote:
>
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
>> that
>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be
>> watching in
>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
>
> "Lost."
> Because the story of castaways on a mysterious island is timeless. Just
> like Robinson Crusoe or Jules Verne's "Mysterious Island."
>
>
Not to mention the lips and ass.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189987 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 03:15 |
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article 415lnjF1d865vU1 [at] individual.net, BucketButt at
> bucketbutt [at] bellsout.net wrote on 12/24/05 12:26 PM:
>
>>The longer a series stays in production, the better its chances of
>>success in reruns.
>
>
> Like Johnny Carson?
Yes, when compared with other series of its type. Selected episodes of
"The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" was actually rerun on Sunday
nights for awhile in the 1980s. Conan O'Brien's show is rerun the next
day on one of the cable networks. Topical shows in general don't get
rerun as a series, but these two are exceptions to that rule.
> First, a lot of episodes means stations and
>
>>cable/satellite channels can "strip" the series five (or more) days per
>>week for a longer period before having to repeat episodes.
>
>
> But stations don't WANT to do that. They don't want to spend the extra
> money for more than maybe 13 to 20 weeks of episodes, because the ratings
> for the additional years aren't any better than just running the show over
> from the start, which is cheaper.
A lot depends on the show, and on how competitive the local station
chooses to be in its market.
Let's use "Friends" as an example. The show is a huge ratings draw in
reruns, and it works well in any daypart from mid-afternoon to
late-night -- possibly others, but AFAIK it's seldom aired in morning
through mid-afternoon dayparts. The series was offered in syndication
one episode at a time, with the local station that had the
currently-available season given first refusal for the next season when
it became available; this is used only in instances where two or more
stations are willing to bid against each other only so far and no more,
otherwise a station can "steal" the series by offering more money. At
this time (while the series is still fairly fresh), the syndicator will
not license different seasons of "Friends" to competing stations within
the same market -- if you run the station that has "Friends", you run
the only station in town that can air any episode until/unless you let
your deal expire.
Even most older series are handled this way. There have been a few
exceptions over the years, but these days even "I Love Lucy" reruns air
on only one local station in any market that I'm aware of.
(Please note that I'm referring to competing local, over-the-air
television stations. Sometimes you may see a series airing on one local
station in your market, an-out-of-market station that your cable system
also carries, and perhaps a cable/satellite channel as well. You may
also see related series, such as the different "CSI" or "Law & Order"
shows, airing on different stations or cable channels; but these are
separate series despite the "family resemblance" and occasional
crossover-appearances of characters, so they're sold separately when
rerun time comes around.)
> Second, fans
>
>>who want the entire series have to spend more for ten seasons' worth
>>than for five; eventually the expense just becomes more than many fans
>>can justify. What this means is, a series like Stargate SG-1 or
>>Andromeda can remain profitable in reruns much longer than one like
>>Babylon 5, as long as all other factors are equal.
>
>
> I have no idea what you said there. It sounds like you're arguing that
> longer series make less money.
Just the opposite. If you're the sort of fan who wants the entire
series on DVD, you'll pay more for a longer-running season because
you'll *have* to pay more to get all the season. Same is true for
stations and cable/satellite channels that want to keep rerunning a
successful series; but the stations consider it money well spent because
individual episodes don't air that often and the whole series remains
"fresh" to the audience longer.
Stations renew their rights to show season episode on an annual basis,
so they're going to pay someone regardless of what they rerun. But the
more popular a show is, the more the station can charge for commercials
aired within and around that show. If Smallville lasts seven season
before going into local syndication (we'll overlook ABC Family Channel's
reruns for the moment), it will be more valuable to the local stations
than if it runs only five years. And because five seasons means more
than 100 episodes (meaning two years without repeats at one episode per
weekend in syndication), it will soon be worth much more than it would
have been if it had been canceled at the end of Season 4.
Millar/Gough and their syndication partners could conceivably make even
more money if Smallville somehow became so popular that they had to
continue the story, even if they technically ended this series and began
a new "Metropolis" series with a different setting and some different
characters, because then they could sell *both* series in reruns
simultaneously. The odds that such a series would maintain the
(theoretical) great popularity of Smallville itself is highly doubtful,
though; that's why "All In The Family" has long been profitable in
reruns (it's currently on cable channel TV Land -- I checked), but
hardly anyone bothers with "Archie Bunker's Place" unless the syndicator
practically gives it away -- and usually, not even then.
--
Walter Luffman Medina, TN USA
An equal opportunity annoyer
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189988 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 03:34 |
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in article 705rq1hc72tbg24e1c1l53jdkmtib5t9s8 [at] 4ax.com, Jaime M. de Castellvi
at 3cjmd [at] comcast.net wrote on 12/24/05 11:43 AM:
> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:00:23 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point that
>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in
>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
> Myself, I'd wager on _Serenity_. I am pretty demanding viewer, and it
> gets better the more I watch it. It works on many levels and, the
> primary reason, it is *quality*, both artistically and as
> entertainment.
You mean "Firefly"? :-)
>
> I think much of _B5_ has a chance, but it is hard to say. I think
> that much _TNG_, _DSN_ and _TOS_ will make it.
TOS is still watchable, but TNG isn't. DSN is tough to drop in and watch a
single episode.
>
> I don't see _Galactica_ making it, nor _Smallville_, even though it
> has the resonance of comic and myth behind it.
Agreed on Galactica; Smallville could go either way. Adventures of Superman
still holds up, but Lois & Clark doesn't, and the Superboy series got buried
so deep we'll never know.
They'll both go the
> way of _Space 1,999_. _Stargate: SG-1_, is hard to say, maybe (but
> _Atlantis_ certainly won't).
Yeah, SG1 is fun, Atlantis is just 'wtf is THIS?'
_Farscape_ was great too, but I don't
> see it making it that way. I may be wrong. Early _X-Files_ and much
> of _Millenium_ for me is fun to revisit, but I don't think they'll do
> well in syndication, certainly not the latter.
>
> _Buffy_ and _Angel_ anyone?
I dunno about Buffy. As much as I loved it first run, it's hard to say if 5
years from now it won't seem awfully dated.
>
> As for much of the rest, we've forgotten it already.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jaime
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189990 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 03:38 |
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in article 415j8fF1d66o2U1 [at] individual.net, BucketButt at
bucketbutt [at] bellsout.net wrote on 12/24/05 11:44 AM:
> Brian(aka Zod) wrote:
>
>> i think it'll be different with dvd's around. I remember pre-dvd era,
>> alot of my favorite shows from being a kid weren't on tv (a-team!), so
>> these days i just buy the boxsets. Commerical free, they don't take as
>> much space of a seaosn of video tapes, don't cost nearly as much either.
>
> Reruns will be around as long as there are are programs worth rerunning,
> because they're so much less expensive than original programming. The
> line "500 channels and nothing on" illustrates the situation in terms we
> can all understand -- in an age when supply for TV channel-hours exceeds
> the supply of entertainment-hours that appeal to the masses, many
> cable/satellite channels (and some broadcast TV stations) turn to
> narrowcasting, while others rely on relatively inexpensive reruns of
> popular shows from years past. "I Love Lucy" reruns are more than 50
> years old, but they're still entertaining enough to draw larger
> audiences than a lot of original programming in that 500-channel universe.
>
> A "narrowcast" program, by its very nature, misses all but a tiny sliver
> of the total audience; narrowcasting succeeds only as long as the
> production and distribution costs are low enough to make a profit
> reaching those relatively few viewers. A broadcast TV station catering
> only to sci-fi fans, or cartoon fans, or history buffs, or any other
> narrow segment could never succeed even in the largest individual TV
> markets; but with satellite and cable technologies, the entire country
> becomes in effect a single large market where even a tiny sliver can
> mean a few million viewers.
>
>> tehn again in 20 years there might be 2000 channels, so anything could
>> be on, but I think dvd's (and whatever replaces them) will hurt
>> syndication in the long run.
>
> DVDs are already having an impact on the profitability of reruns, and
> they will continue to do so. But the copyright owners will counter by
> cutting prices to stations and cable/satellite networks in order to keep
> their offerings profitable as reruns. As long as there is a large
> enough audience that doesn't already own the DVDs of a particular series
> -- or they're traveling without their DVDs -- there will be an audience
> for reruns. The audience may get smaller every year, but that only
> means the copyright owners will have to charge less if they want to keep
> selling reruns (and DVDs, for that matter).
>
> Even when DVDs are available, the price may be high enough to make
> reruns the preferred option for most viewers. For example, I'd love to
> have complete DVD sets of "The Avengers", "The Prisoner", "Babylon 5"
> and several other series, but they're priced higher than I'm willing to
> pay at present.
How much can they be charging for The Prisoner??
(goes to DVD price search)
Ouch! $150 retail, around $90 best price. Yeah, that hurts, unless there's
a TON of extras or something.
I'd like that Avengers Emma Peel mega set but I doubt I'll ever pony up for
it. Although $100 for that sounds GREAT compared to $90 for The Prisoner!
If I could watch these shows in reruns, I'd tune in
> regularly; if there are enough people like me, those reruns would be
> profitable through at least one or two airings of the complete series.
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189993 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 03:49 |
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Louis M. Brown wrote:
> I don't see anything wrong with saying Merry Xmas. What I see wrong
> is being told you _CAN'T_ say Merry Xmas because it's not PC.
To quote Eddie Murphy ("Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood", SNL): MERRY
CHRISTMAS, DAMMIT!
Also Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Kwanzaa, Blessed Solstice, ______________
(fill the blank with the holiday greeting of your choice.) And even if
you don't believe in anything, have a nice day.
--
Walter Luffman Medina, TN USA
An equal opportunity annoyer
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189995 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 07:42 |
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In article <olbrf.7085$LE4.1170 [at] fe09.lga>,
Jack O'Neill <tokras [at] optonline.net> said:
> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off
> all Sci-Fi because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any
> of the shows.
What the hell?
No, wait, I probably don't really want to know.
--
William December Starr <wdstarr [at] panix.com>
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189996 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 10:20 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Glassman wrote:
>
>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again in
>> syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into originally, but
>> rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there will ever be a show like
>> Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30 years? It's gotten to the point
>> that
>> I'm finally sick of the Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern
>> sci-fi shows do you think will survive a long time, and we'll be
>> watching in
>> reruns 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>
>
> I think StarGate is a contender.
I agree. Stargate has much the same feel as ST-Tos for me. Maybe
Farscape? Serenity is rewatchable, but I don't think there is enough of
it to keep it in play.
Michael
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189997 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 14:10 |
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From the Collected Witterings of ToolPackinMama, volume 23:
> Jaxtraw wrote:
>
>> This year, I'll be celebrating the three aspects of the Goddess- maiden,
>> mother and crone. Imaginary beings also, but infinitely preferable to the
>> zombie god that sends babies to hell.
>
> The hell part I understand, but zombie?
How profoundly fucking ignorant do you have to be not to know that Christ
(purportedly) rose from the dead?
--
"My son is not a terrorist - he is a junior IT support officer."
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| Re: Longest Shelf Life [message #189999 ] |
So, 25 Dezember 2005 17:02 |
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Steven L. wrote:
> Jack O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Glassman wrote:
>>
>>> Some shows are great but you can't watch them over and over again
>>> in syndication... (X-Files for me). Some you never got into
>>> originally, but rediscovered watching reruns. Who knows if there
>>> will ever be a show like Star Trek TOS again that runs for 30
>>> years? It's gotten to the point that I'm finally sick of the
>>> Twilight Zone marathons every year. What modern sci-fi shows do you
>>> think will survive a long time, and we'll be watching in reruns
>>> 10-20 years from now? BSG? SG-1? Smallville? Lost? etc etc...
>> Hey, some politically correct gov't group will probably kill off
>> all Sci-Fi because there is no stinking muslim terrorists in any of
>> the shows.
>
> "Lost" has a main character who's Iraqi and was in Saddam's Republican
> Guard.
Sayid's not a terrorist.
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Wouter Valentijn
www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
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The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity and the ways our
differences combine to create meaning and beauty.
Vulcan IDIC "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"
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