| Assignment Earth [message #180022] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 16:56 |
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Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180023 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 17:07 |
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allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
> the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
> it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
They were under orders to do so. To investigate what happened to that
nucleair weapon. Historians wanted to know.
--
Wouter Valentijn
www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity and the ways our
differences combine to create meaning and beauty.
Vulcan IDIC "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180024 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 17:08 |
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allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
> the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
> it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
"Using the lightspeed breakaway factor, the Enterprise
has moved back through time to the 20th century.
We are now in extended orbit around Earth, using our
ship's deflector shields to remain unobserved. Our
mission - historical research."
As for the temporal prime directive, there's nothing
to indicate that there is any such thing at the
time of TOS. Indeed you could even speculate that
the temporal prime directive was invented precisely
because of what happened on missions like this.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180026 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 17:26 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:G9Ymf.317$yX1.1115 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
> > the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
> > it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
>
> "Using the lightspeed breakaway factor, the Enterprise
> has moved back through time to the 20th century.
> We are now in extended orbit around Earth, using our
> ship's deflector shields to remain unobserved. Our
> mission - historical research."
>
> As for the temporal prime directive, there's nothing
> to indicate that there is any such thing at the
> time of TOS. Indeed you could even speculate that
> the temporal prime directive was invented precisely
> because of what happened on missions like this.
You could also speculate that its invention is an indication of the
storylining desperation that developed as Trek went on. ;-)
Ian
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180028 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 17:53 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:G9Ymf.317$yX1.1115 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
>
>>allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
>>>the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
>>>it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
>>
>>"Using the lightspeed breakaway factor, the Enterprise
>>has moved back through time to the 20th century.
>>We are now in extended orbit around Earth, using our
>>ship's deflector shields to remain unobserved. Our
>>mission - historical research."
>>
>>As for the temporal prime directive, there's nothing
>>to indicate that there is any such thing at the
>>time of TOS. Indeed you could even speculate that
>>the temporal prime directive was invented precisely
>>because of what happened on missions like this.
>
>
> You could also speculate that its invention is an indication of the
> storylining desperation that developed as Trek went on. ;-)
Indeed.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180031 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 18:22 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134316581.637326.34990 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
> the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
> it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
>
Star Fleet sent them to create a spin off series that never materialized.
You see Kirk and the rest of the crew knew if there was another series which
was part of the Star Trek universe in production when Star Trek ended, they
might be able to do guest star appearances and not have to live in a camper
truck in a vacant lot. Or in Sulu's and Rand's case become prostitutes.
McCoy on the other hand is a doctor and could stay in Beverly Hills doing
plastic surgery. BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180032 ] |
So, 11 Dezember 2005 18:38 |
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> Star Fleet sent them to create a spin off series that never materialized.
> You see Kirk and the rest of the crew knew if there was another series which
> was part of the Star Trek universe in production when Star Trek ended, they
> might be able to do guest star appearances and not have to live in a camper
> truck in a vacant lot. Or in Sulu's and Rand's case become prostitutes.
> McCoy on the other hand is a doctor and could stay in Beverly Hills doing
> plastic surgery. BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180038 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 04:07 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:RuZmf.137781$Ph4.4206331 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > Star Fleet sent them to create a spin off series that never
materialized.
> > You see Kirk and the rest of the crew knew if there was another series
which
> > was part of the Star Trek universe in production when Star Trek ended,
they
> > might be able to do guest star appearances and not have to live in a
camper
> > truck in a vacant lot. Or in Sulu's and Rand's case become prostitutes.
> > McCoy on the other hand is a doctor and could stay in Beverly Hills
doing
> > plastic surgery. BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
>
> Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
> and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
Nope, you're confusing Teri Garr's role as the secretary with the
non-speaking extra who played the human form of the cat.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180039 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 04:13 |
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>>> BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
>>
>>>
>>> Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
>>> and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
>
>
> Nope, you're confusing Teri Garr's role as the secretary with the
> non-speaking extra who played the human form of the cat.
You're the first person to jump to this incorrect conclusion. Buy
yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban. Yes,
Teri Garr was in the episode, but no, I did not confuse her with
the cat lady. I said that the cat lady looks like Teri Garr now.
My reasoning is that they were both around the same age. I saw
Garr on Larry King a week or two ago, and she looks terrible. The
cat lady, as attractive as she seemed in the Trek episode, would
be old enough for social security by this time, and would no
longer be sexy.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180040 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 04:18 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:tV5nf.138079$Ph4.4218956 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >>> BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
> >>> and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
> >
> >
> > Nope, you're confusing Teri Garr's role as the secretary with the
> > non-speaking extra who played the human form of the cat.
>
> You're the first person to jump to this incorrect conclusion.
I'm the first!
>Buy
> yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
> Yes,
> Teri Garr was in the episode, but no, I did not confuse her with
> the cat lady. I said that the cat lady looks like Teri Garr now.
> My reasoning is that they were both around the same age. I saw
> Garr on Larry King a week or two ago, and she looks terrible.
I don't know about terrible, but she looks very fat.
>The
> cat lady, as attractive as she seemed in the Trek episode, would
> be old enough for social security by this time, and would no
> longer be sexy.
I didn't realize you were making such a trivial point. Uh, you do realize
this is a news group dedicated to discussing a television show that was
produced nearly 40 years ago, right? If you don't see any point in
discussing things from so far back, then what are you doing here? Maybe you
should go find a nice soap opera group, something very current.
Bo Raxo
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180043 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 05:56 |
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"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
news:v_5nf.3034$Tg2.2992 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> news:tV5nf.138079$Ph4.4218956 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > >>> BTW who played the human form of Isis the cat?
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
> > >>> and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, you're confusing Teri Garr's role as the secretary with the
> > > non-speaking extra who played the human form of the cat.
> >
> > You're the first person to jump to this incorrect conclusion.
>
> I'm the first!
>
> >Buy
> > yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
>
> Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
Only "illegal" in the US of A...
</best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180044 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 06:04 |
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>>The
>>> cat lady, as attractive as she seemed in the Trek episode, would
>>> be old enough for social security by this time, and would no
>>> longer be sexy.
>
>
> I didn't realize you were making such a trivial point. Uh, you do realize
> this is a news group dedicated to discussing a television show that was
> produced nearly 40 years ago, right? If you don't see any point in
> discussing things from so far back, then what are you doing here? Maybe you
> should go find a nice soap opera group, something very current.
>
>
> Bo Raxo
Good put down. A bit mild for Usenet, but on topic. It should be
easy to discover the name of said cat lady. [goes off and Googles]
As I assumed, no trouble at all. Here you go, and don't say I
never did you nothin'.
Victoria Vetri
http://www.catspawdynamics.com/ae/cast.html
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180045 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 06:55 |
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>>>>>>Whoever she was, she looks like Terri Garr now, unless she'd dead
>>>>>>> > >>> and looks worse. Let the past bury the past.
>>>>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Nope, you're confusing Teri Garr's role as the secretary with the
>>>>> > > non-speaking extra who played the human form of the cat.
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > You're the first person to jump to this incorrect conclusion.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm the first!
>>>
>>
>>>> >Buy
>>>> > yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
>>
>>>
>>> Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
>
>
> Only "illegal" in the US of A...
> </best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
Cigars are so-o-o expensive. Makes me glad I never started
smoking. We're talking $40, $50, $60 for one lousy cigar! Nuts, I
tell ye.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180046 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 07:32 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Tp7nf.95975$Eq5.71484 [at] pd7tw1no...
> "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
> news:v_5nf.3034$Tg2.2992 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> > news:tV5nf.138079$Ph4.4218956 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > >Buy
> > > yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
> >
> > Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
>
> Only "illegal" in the US of A...
> </best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
>
Well, that's the only country I reside in.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180047 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 07:35 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:Gx7nf.138099$Ph4.4221368 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >>The
> >>> cat lady, as attractive as she seemed in the Trek episode, would
> >>> be old enough for social security by this time, and would no
> >>> longer be sexy.
> >
> >
> > I didn't realize you were making such a trivial point. Uh, you do
realize
> > this is a news group dedicated to discussing a television show that was
> > produced nearly 40 years ago, right? If you don't see any point in
> > discussing things from so far back, then what are you doing here? Maybe
you
> > should go find a nice soap opera group, something very current.
> >
> >
> > Bo Raxo
>
> Good put down. A bit mild for Usenet, but on topic. It should be
> easy to discover the name of said cat lady. [goes off and Googles]
> As I assumed, no trouble at all. Here you go, and don't say I
> never did you nothin'.
>
> Victoria Vetri
>
> http://www.catspawdynamics.com/ae/cast.html
Why, thanks! 1968 Playmate of the year, and entirely delicious:
(warning, nudity, but mild for the internet)
http://www.freenudecelebs.dk/nude-celebs-pictures/v/victoria -vetri-nude/victoria-vetri-nude-4.jpg
Got a kind of a Mary-Ann thing goin' on, yummy. Well, back then, anyway.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180048 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 08:21 |
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"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
news:5T8nf.2113$n1.1695 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> news:Gx7nf.138099$Ph4.4221368 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > >>The
> > >>> cat lady, as attractive as she seemed in the Trek episode, would
> > >>> be old enough for social security by this time, and would no
> > >>> longer be sexy.
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't realize you were making such a trivial point. Uh, you do
> realize
> > > this is a news group dedicated to discussing a television show that
was
> > > produced nearly 40 years ago, right? If you don't see any point in
> > > discussing things from so far back, then what are you doing here?
Maybe
> you
> > > should go find a nice soap opera group, something very current.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bo Raxo
> >
> > Good put down. A bit mild for Usenet, but on topic. It should be
> > easy to discover the name of said cat lady. [goes off and Googles]
> > As I assumed, no trouble at all. Here you go, and don't say I
> > never did you nothin'.
> >
> > Victoria Vetri
> >
> > http://www.catspawdynamics.com/ae/cast.html
>
>
> Why, thanks! 1968 Playmate of the year, and entirely delicious:
>
> (warning, nudity, but mild for the internet)
>
>
http://www.freenudecelebs.dk/nude-celebs-pictures/v/victoria -vetri-nude/victoria-vetri-nude-4.jpg
>
> Got a kind of a Mary-Ann thing goin' on, yummy. Well, back then, anyway.
mmmm...coconut cream pie......
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180049 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 08:22 |
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"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
news:OP8nf.2112$n1.313 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Tp7nf.95975$Eq5.71484 [at] pd7tw1no...
> > "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
> > news:v_5nf.3034$Tg2.2992 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > > "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> > > news:tV5nf.138079$Ph4.4218956 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > >
> > > >Buy
> > > > yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
> > >
> > > Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
> >
> > Only "illegal" in the US of A...
> > </best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
> >
>
> Well, that's the only country I reside in.
</best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
{{;-/>
--
Qapla'
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180050 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 08:51 |
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"Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:sy9nf.91396$ki.67442 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
> news:OP8nf.2112$n1.313 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Kweeg" <kweeg [at] nospam.shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:Tp7nf.95975$Eq5.71484 [at] pd7tw1no...
> > > "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
> > > news:v_5nf.3034$Tg2.2992 [at] newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:tV5nf.138079$Ph4.4218956 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > > >
> > > > >Buy
> > > > > yourself a cigar. Hell, since you're buying, make it a Cuban.
> > > >
> > > > Not in the habit of purchasing illegal smoking material.
> > >
> > > Only "illegal" in the US of A...
> > > </best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
> > >
> >
> > Well, that's the only country I reside in.
>
> </best Nelson, "ha ha!/>
> {{;-/>
Heh, touché.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180053 ] |
Mo, 12 Dezember 2005 23:00 |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:04:38 GMT, Al Smith <invalid [at] address.com> wrote:
> Victoria Vetri
>
>http://www.catspawdynamics.com/ae/cast.html
Whoa! Miss Victoria Vetri was AKA Angela Dorian, a Playmate of the Month at
around that time (September 1967). To anyone of about the same age, I'll
bet she still looks pretty good ..
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180054 ] |
Di, 13 Dezember 2005 00:41 |
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"Al Smith" <invalid [at] address.com> wrote in message
news:Gx7nf.138099$Ph4.4221368 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>
> Victoria Vetri
>
> http://www.catspawdynamics.com/ae/cast.html
Warning: Heres a nude of her.
http://www.scdha.com/angela-dorian.html
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180055 ] |
Di, 13 Dezember 2005 00:42 |
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Think she had a good lie down on Gene's couch?
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180056 ] |
Di, 13 Dezember 2005 02:39 |
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> Think she had a good lie down on Gene's couch?
Gee, I wonder what made Gene pick her for this little cameo?
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180151 ] |
Do, 15 Dezember 2005 23:49 |
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That is not bad!
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180153 ] |
Fr, 16 Dezember 2005 00:36 |
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enovak7924 [at] aol.com wrote:
> That is not bad!
Assignment: Earth was a pilot film that never went to series. If it
had, we probably would have seen a lot more scenes featuring her.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180154 ] |
Fr, 16 Dezember 2005 00:38 |
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Al Smith wrote:
>> Think she had a good lie down on Gene's couch?
>
>
> Gee, I wonder what made Gene pick her for this little cameo?
She actually had a real part in the movie "Rosemary's Baby," playing
Rosemary's friend who gets killed by the witches.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180166 ] |
Fr, 16 Dezember 2005 03:27 |
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In article <439c4ed5$0$11075$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote:
>allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>> Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968 in
>> the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the hell of
>> it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
>
>They were under orders to do so. To investigate what happened to that
>nucleair weapon. Historians wanted to know.
>
Well it was hidden on the Nuclear Wessle of course!
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180173 ] |
Fr, 16 Dezember 2005 19:10 |
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Steven L. wrote:
> enovak7924 [at] aol.com wrote:
>
>> That is not bad!
>
> Assignment: Earth was a pilot film that never went to series. If it
> had, we probably would have seen a lot more scenes featuring her.
Which would also not have been bad.
--
Wouter Valentijn
www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity and the ways our
differences combine to create meaning and beauty.
Vulcan IDIC "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180174 ] |
Fr, 16 Dezember 2005 19:12 |
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GMAN wrote:
> In article <439c4ed5$0$11075$e4fe514c [at] news.xs4all.nl>, "Wouter
> Valentijn" <liam [at] valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> allemannster [at] gmail.com wrote:
>>> Could someone explain to me why Kirk and the crew went back to 1968
>>> in the TOS episode Assignment: Earth? Going back in time for the
>>> hell of it is against the Temporal Prime Driective.
>>
>> They were under orders to do so. To investigate what happened to that
>> nucleair weapon. Historians wanted to know.
>>
> Well it was hidden on the Nuclear Wessle of course!
Hmm, who knows! Hight of the cold war and a nucleair weapons platform gone
funky... ;-)
--
Wouter Valentijn
www.wouter.cc
www.nksf.nl
www.zeppodunsel.nl
liam=mail
The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity and the ways our
differences combine to create meaning and beauty.
Vulcan IDIC "Is There In Truth No Beauty?"
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180189 ] |
Sa, 17 Dezember 2005 17:30 |
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I must admit that Miss Verti was very HOT.
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #180237 ] |
So, 18 Dezember 2005 13:34 |
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<allemannster [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134837035.281746.254330 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I must admit that Miss Verti was very HOT.
>
No doubt about it, in those days Playboy featured some real beauties. Much
more appealing in the humble opinion of this old bugger than the silicone
enhanced, photoshopped, rather bland modern crop :)
Ian
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| Re: Assignment Earth [message #187979 ] |
Mo, 19 Dezember 2005 23:41 |
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I agree. The women in Playboy were much better then. Natural is better.
And that's coming from me, an 18 year old.
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