| Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179898] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 02:12 |
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I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a Trek
expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was going
to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all know
she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the main
characters.
My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru pushed
forward?
Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to make
Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that Uhuru
works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179899 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 02:52 |
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"Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward [at] iwantmorespam.com> wrote in message
news:dn5cuf$47l$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a Trek
> expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was
going
> to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all
know
> she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the main
> characters.
> My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru pushed
> forward?
> Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to
make
> Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that
Uhuru
> works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
>
>
The basic story was that, indeed, Rand was one of the regular second-tier
characters and the idea was a kind of unrequited relationship with Kirk.
Sadly, Grace Lee Whitney, who played Rand, had some personal problems that
affected her ability to work to such a degree that the decision was made to
axe the character. A"slimming" pill addiction amongst other things,
apparently.
Rand was a fab character- the series lost something without her. Though
whether a will-they won't-they relationship dragging on year after year
would have got rather tedious- well, that's something we'll never know now
:)
Rand returned in The Motion Picture as transporter operator and did cameos
in other TOS films (not sure how many- she's in The Search For Spock, for
instance, watching the Enterprise limp into space dock (returning from the
battle with Khan)... and she's a redhead!)
Ian
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179900 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 03:11 |
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"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:43963f3a$0$23295$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> "Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward [at] iwantmorespam.com> wrote in message
> news:dn5cuf$47l$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a
Trek
> > expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was
> going
> > to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all
> know
> > she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the
main
> > characters.
> > My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru
pushed
> > forward?
> > Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to
> make
> > Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that
> Uhuru
> > works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
> >
> >
>
> The basic story was that, indeed, Rand was one of the regular second-tier
> characters and the idea was a kind of unrequited relationship with Kirk.
> Sadly, Grace Lee Whitney, who played Rand, had some personal problems that
> affected her ability to work to such a degree that the decision was made
to
> axe the character. A"slimming" pill addiction amongst other things,
> apparently.
>
> Rand was a fab character- the series lost something without her. Though
> whether a will-they won't-they relationship dragging on year after year
> would have got rather tedious- well, that's something we'll never know now
> :)
>
> Rand returned in The Motion Picture as transporter operator and did cameos
> in other TOS films (not sure how many- she's in The Search For Spock, for
> instance, watching the Enterprise limp into space dock (returning from the
> battle with Khan)... and she's a redhead!)
>
> Ian
>
>
Also, she's in Star Trek IV, working at Starfleet HQ, and also pops into the
"council chamber" as one of the noddy muppets.
Ian
--
www.jaxtrawstudios.com
sexy sci-fi
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179901 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 03:16 |
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179902 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 04:24 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward [at] iwantmorespam.com> wrote in message
> news:dn5cuf$47l$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
>>I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a Trek
>>expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was
>
> going
>
>>to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all
>
> know
>
>>she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the main
>>characters.
>>My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru pushed
>>forward?
>> Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to
>
> make
>
>>Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that
>
> Uhuru
>
>>works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
>>
>>
>
>
> The basic story was that, indeed, Rand was one of the regular second-tier
> characters and the idea was a kind of unrequited relationship with Kirk.
> Sadly, Grace Lee Whitney, who played Rand, had some personal problems that
> affected her ability to work to such a degree that the decision was made to
> axe the character. A"slimming" pill addiction amongst other things,
> apparently.
I'd also note that Roddenberry had been sleeping with Nichelle Nichols
(Uhura) and this may have affected screen time.
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179922 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 20:40 |
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Neon Knight wrote:
> "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in
> news:439643b3$0$23291$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk:
>
>
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>>Also, she's in Star Trek IV, working at Starfleet HQ, and also pops
>>into the "council chamber" as one of the noddy muppets.
>
>
> Also Commuications officer on the Excelsior in ST:VI.
And again in the same post in Voyager's "Flashback".
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179925 ] |
Mi, 07 Dezember 2005 22:01 |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
news:kUGlf.220$yX1.957 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
> Neon Knight wrote:
> > "Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in
> > news:439643b3$0$23291$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Also, she's in Star Trek IV, working at Starfleet HQ, and also pops
> >>into the "council chamber" as one of the noddy muppets.
> >
> >
> > Also Commuications officer on the Excelsior in ST:VI.
>
> And again in the same post in Voyager's "Flashback".
>
> --
I don't remember her being in TWOK or TFF tho. Is she in there somewhere?
Ian
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179929 ] |
Do, 08 Dezember 2005 00:12 |
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Jaxtraw wrote:
> "Graham Kennedy" <graham [at] ditl.org> wrote in message
> news:kUGlf.220$yX1.957 [at] news-1.opaltelecom.net...
>
>>Neon Knight wrote:
>>
>>>"Jaxtraw" <jax [at] knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in
>>>news:439643b3$0$23291$db0fefd9 [at] news.zen.co.uk:
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>>Also, she's in Star Trek IV, working at Starfleet HQ, and also pops
>>>>into the "council chamber" as one of the noddy muppets.
>>>
>>>
>>>Also Commuications officer on the Excelsior in ST:VI.
>>
>>And again in the same post in Voyager's "Flashback".
>>
>>--
>
>
> I don't remember her being in TWOK or TFF tho. Is she in there somewhere?
Don't think so, no.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179937 ] |
Do, 08 Dezember 2005 06:17 |
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"Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward [at] iwantmorespam.com> wrote in message
news:dn5cuf$47l$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a Trek
> expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was
going
> to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all
know
> she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the main
> characters.
> My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru pushed
> forward?
> Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to
make
> Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that
Uhuru
> works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
>
>
In reality Uhura was indeed a very minor character. She falls somewhere
between Scotty & Sulu, and maybe even lower in the pecking order. Her
dialogue was limited to a couple of lines. Her legend grew years later.
--
"I'm not pompous and agrogant, I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories
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| Re: Uhuru vs Yeoman Rand [message #179942 ] |
Do, 08 Dezember 2005 08:27 |
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:17:34 -0500, "Glassman" <jksinrod [at] aol.com>
wrote:
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>"Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward [at] iwantmorespam.com> wrote in message
>news:dn5cuf$47l$1 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> I am watching the first series of the original trek again. I'm not a Trek
>> expert but it seemed to me that Yeoman Rand started off as if she was
>going
>> to be a major character alongside Kirk, Spock, Bones etc but as we all
>know
>> she receded into being a minor character and Uhuru became one of the main
>> characters.
>> My question is why did this happen? Why was Rand dropped and Uhuru pushed
>> forward?
>> Rand was glamorous enough to stay in the spotlight. Was it decided to
>make
>> Trek more multicultural hence Uhuru was chosen. Or was it simply that
>Uhuru
>> works on the bridge so naturally has more of a role?
>>
>>
>
> In reality Uhura was indeed a very minor character. She falls somewhere
>between Scotty & Sulu, and maybe even lower in the pecking order. Her
>dialogue was limited to a couple of lines. Her legend grew years later.
Aunt Jemima is a legend in pancakes. Did Uhura make pancakes?
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