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Science Fiction » alt.fan.starwars » After watching Eps. III & IV
After watching Eps. III & IV [message #166471] So, 20 November 2005 16:41
fish  
I can't believe it, but I actually like Episode III better than IV.

In episode III:
R2 has all the gadgets, is the hero, no doubt!
Obi-Wan is having fun with buzz droids, vulture droids, Grievous, Clones,
slices Anakin, etc.
Anakin is betrayed by the Jedi order.
Anakin trusts Palpatine.
Good ending, Anakin becomes Vader!!

In episode IV:
R2 is a complete novice. Needs a crane to hoist him into Luke's X-Wing.
Obi-Wan is learning how to use a light saber, as evident by his dance with
Vader.
Luke learns that his uncle lied to him all those years.
Luke trusts Obi-Wan.
Good ending, Luke destroys the Death Star!!

The special effects, sound effects, etc. seem especially better in episode
III, yet the acting seems superior in episode IV.

Both movies are good, they just feel different (from a certain point of
view).

Cheers! =D

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Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #166479 ] So, 20 November 2005 20:34
Jedi Jonny  
"fish" <i.am.such.a.fish [at] atlantic.ocean> wrote in message
news:lO0gf.3579$kw2.374 [at] trnddc05...
> I can't believe it, but I actually like Episode III better than IV.
>
> In episode III:
> R2 has all the gadgets, is the hero, no doubt!
> Obi-Wan is having fun with buzz droids, vulture droids, Grievous, Clones,
> slices Anakin, etc.

You have to remember that they both are a lot younger in Ep3 than Ep4.
Jedi's in their prime

> Anakin is betrayed by the Jedi order.

Not betrayed at all. They didn't trust him due to his associations with old
palpy trousers.
They were not about to put all their trust in him just yet. Mace told him
as much.
In time they would have trusted him. It was more like Palpatine betrayed
Anakin than the Jedi order.
Palpatine Lied to him for his own gain.

> Anakin trusts Palpatine.
> Good ending, Anakin becomes Vader!!

Agreed. Could have done without the stupid strop though

>
> In episode IV:
> R2 is a complete novice. Needs a crane to hoist him into Luke's X-Wing.

R2 obviously had a good few things de-activated or removed on Alderaan. His
jetpack included. Being a peaceful planet with no guns, they would not want
any weapons of war, or anything else that reminds them or wars. This is why
C3PO had his memory erased.

> Obi-Wan is learning how to use a light saber, as evident by his dance with
> Vader.

Obi-Wan was an old man here, and in no way was he "Learning".
Possibly he was rusty after all those years in the wilderness living as a
hermit.
He held his own with Vader until Luke turned up, and he decided to "become
one" with the force.

> Luke learns that his uncle lied to him all those years.

Wouldn't You ?

> Luke trusts Obi-Wan.
> Good ending, Luke destroys the Death Star!!

Very memorable. Especially for all of us 8-year olds in 1977.

>
> The special effects, sound effects, etc. seem especially better in episode
> III, yet the acting seems superior in episode IV.
>
> Both movies are good, they just feel different (from a certain point of
> view).

I guess we all get something different from it.
Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #166484 ] So, 20 November 2005 22:34
Aphelion  
> Obi-Wan was an old man here, and in no way was he "Learning".
> Possibly he was rusty after all those years in the wilderness living as a
> hermit.

So was Darth Vader rusty too? It seems if they were both rusty, or old,
Vader shouldn't have been able to hold his own against Luke in V & VI.
Okay, possibly in V. One can argue that Vader practiced more after Episode
IV, but come on. This is all rationalization. The prequels had superior
duels. Lucas should digitally augment the Obi-Wan / Vader duel in the next
incarnation of the film (as long as the original is always accessible
though).

Aphelion
Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #166536 ] Mo, 21 November 2005 20:17
OSI  
fish wrote:

> I can't believe it, but I actually like Episode III better than IV.

You must be under 16...

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OSI
Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #172008 ] Mo, 21 November 2005 23:27
Steven Wandy  
> This is why
> C3PO had his memory erased.
>
I would have assumed that this was to protect the twins from C3PO's big
mouth.
Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #172032 ] Di, 22 November 2005 08:42
Karrde  
"OSI" <abuse [at] msn.com> wrote in message
news:M2pgf.17876$dT3.17021 [at] tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> fish wrote:
>
>> I can't believe it, but I actually like Episode III better than IV.
>
> You must be under 16...

I'm mid-30s and like both AOTC and ROTS better than ANH. Furthermore, I
find ESB to be possibly the weakest of the six films and always have. Not
everyone engages in groupthink.

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Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #172071 ] Mi, 23 November 2005 07:52
badlands420  
> I'm mid-30s and like both AOTC and ROTS better than ANH. Furthermore, I
> find ESB to be possibly the weakest of the six films and always have. Not
> everyone engages in groupthink.

True, and not everyone thinks dogshit tastes better than filet mignon.
Re: After watching Eps. III & IV [message #172101 ] Do, 24 November 2005 09:16
Karrde  
"badlands420" <bung [at] hole.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I'm mid-30s and like both AOTC and ROTS better than ANH. Furthermore, I
>> find ESB to be possibly the weakest of the six films and always have.
>> Not everyone engages in groupthink.
>
> True, and not everyone thinks dogshit tastes better than filet mignon.

Nope, some of us like London broil steaks with a lemon pepper glaze better.

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