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Science Fiction » alt.fan.starwars » Remake Episodes IV-VI

Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163798]

Fr, 11 November 2005 00:26

Domestos

After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV -> VI
let the series down...

Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...

Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not doing
very much story creation.... I would go and see them...

He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...

--
Thanks,
Andrew Makinson
www.buy-a-pixel.com

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163799 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 00:45

Anybody

In article <6HQcf.2845$PI4.2444 [at] newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, "Domestos"
<never.you [at] mind.net> wrote:

> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV -> VI
> let the series down...
>
> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...

GOOD GOD NO!!!!!!! X-(

I hope to be LONG dead by the time some young idiot ideas decides they
should be remade with their own "good" ideas because they know better
than George Lucas.

> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not doing
> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...

That's what the release of the 3D versions are for and it'll be MUCH
less work for George Lucas to do.

> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...

There are NO "plot holes". :-\

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163800 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 01:11

dullard

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163802 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 01:58

jjj_soper

Domestos wrote:
> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
Make the Emperor into a seductive blonde who wears red a lot,
Make Darthy see the Emperor in his head and talk to himself.
Change Lando into an Asian girl with some naked clones running around
inside the Death Star
Leia becomes a dying president/messiah
Han becomes another hot blonde
Luke has no personality and Han ignores whatever he says
The Falcon get slimy organic parts oozing out of it all over.
Obi-Wan talks super grim and is never happy
Chewbacca is bald, has a drinking problem and a floozy wife

And Mark Hamill returns with much better acting playing a villain

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163803 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 02:55

Kom3at

Well, I don't know about a remake. One thing I wish they would fix in
future releases is the lightsabers! I honestly can not stand when Luke
turns on the lightsaber for the first time. Why can't ILM simply paint
over that?

It just doesn't look right. instead of looking blue like Anakins was in
ROTS, it looks Aqua!!! A CGI Lightsaber could fix that perfect! Thats
the only thing I want changed. Leave everything else exactly the same.
Just please... please fix the damn lightsaber!

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163810 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 04:39

Guest

<jjj_soper [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131670728.369937.199370 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Domestos wrote:
>> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
>> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
> Make the Emperor into a seductive blonde who wears red a lot,
> Make Darthy see the Emperor in his head and talk to himself.
> Change Lando into an Asian girl with some naked clones running around
> inside the Death Star
> Leia becomes a dying president/messiah
> Han becomes another hot blonde
> Luke has no personality and Han ignores whatever he says
> The Falcon get slimy organic parts oozing out of it all over.
> Obi-Wan talks super grim and is never happy
> Chewbacca is bald, has a drinking problem and a floozy wife
>
> And Mark Hamill returns with much better acting playing a villain
>

I don't know why some of you people think that Mark Hamill was bad. He was
believable for his character. His acting and everyone else's fell of during
ROTJ. Natalie Portman is the one who should be shitted on for acting.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163811 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 04:49

jjj_soper

Guest wrote:
> > I don't know why some of you people think that Mark Hamill was bad. He was
> believable for his character.
It was meant more as a comment about Richard Hatch's acting and how
villians are more juicy to play than heroes but if you really want my
answer:
Leia "I wonder if he cares about anyone?"
Luke (frustrated and confused voice) "I care"
Makes me groan everytime.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163813 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 05:10

Everyperson

<jjj_soper [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131680961.275726.134150 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Guest wrote:
>> > I don't know why some of you people think that Mark Hamill was bad. He
>> > was
>> believable for his character.
> It was meant more as a comment about Richard Hatch's acting and how
> villians are more juicy to play than heroes but if you really want my
> answer:
> Leia "I wonder if he cares about anyone?"
> Luke (frustrated and confused voice) "I care"
> Makes me groan everytime.
>

It thought that line was supposed to be funny. I laugh my ass off at it
every time...

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163814 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 05:17

nobody

Zeek Mime wrote:

> Well, I don't know about a remake. One thing I wish they would fix in
> future releases is the lightsabers! I honestly can not stand when Luke
> turns on the lightsaber for the first time.

That doesn't look as bad as when he is training with the seeker drone on
the Falcon. Ugh...

--
"[Your] pathological hatred of Bush is so fierce it has disabled [your]
ability to reason. I have no problem with critics of the war. I have a
problem with leftists who have declared war on their own country in the
midst of a war; who recognize no responsibility to accept the results of
the democratic process or to protect their fellow citizens from the
monstrous enemy that is seeking to destroy them." - David Horowitz

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163819 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 06:08

FussyKatie

:( No Harrison Ford?

Katie

> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
>
>

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163821 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 06:27

Clams Canino

"Domestos" <never.you [at] mind.net> wrote in message
news:6HQcf.2845$PI4.2444 [at] newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV -> VI
> let the series down...
>
> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
>
> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not doing
> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
>
> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...

Dissagree, he outta just "punch up" 4-6 heavily by keeping the orininal
actors and ILM-ing over a lot of the old sets and stuff, even add a few
scenes as needed to help increase continuity. Also, upgrade the lightsaber
battles a good bit. The transition from 3 to 4 is quite notable in the
current state of the films.

-W

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163825 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 07:02

Godzilla1171

I think Lucas should get the original actors who appeared in Ep 4-6 and
change some dialogue. Such as Leia saying her mom died when she was
very young. Etc

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163827 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 07:32

Anybody

In article <1131684297.768651.8510 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Godzilla1171 [at] aol.com wrote:

> I think Lucas should get the original actors who appeared in Ep 4-6 and
> change some dialogue. Such as Leia saying her mom died when she was
> very young. Etc

Here we go yet again. :-\

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163830 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 07:51

Godzilla1171

and?

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163833 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 10:04

David B

Domestos wrote:

> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV -> VI
> let the series down...
>
> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
>
> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not doing
> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
>
> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...

Gee, let's remake Robocop, Predator and Terminator while we're at it.
:rolleyes:

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #163834 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 10:05

David B

Domestos wrote:

>
> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...
>

What plotholes? The only ones are the ones in people's heads.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166183 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 15:42

John Duncan Yoyo

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:04:27 -0800, David B <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Domestos wrote:
>
>> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV -> VI
>> let the series down...
>>
>> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
>> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
>>
>> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not doing
>> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
>>
>> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...
>
>Gee, let's remake Robocop, Predator and Terminator while we're at it.
>:rolleyes:
>
Uh, there is talk of remaking Robocop. I can't imagine why. The
original was a wonderfully violent singular vision.
< http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0& id=33243&type=0>
--
John Duncan Yoyo
------------------------------o)
Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166185 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 18:31

Guest

<jjj_soper [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131680961.275726.134150 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Guest wrote:
>> > I don't know why some of you people think that Mark Hamill was bad. He
>> > was
>> believable for his character.
> It was meant more as a comment about Richard Hatch's acting and how
> villians are more juicy to play than heroes but if you really want my
> answer:
> Leia "I wonder if he cares about anyone?"
> Luke (frustrated and confused voice) "I care"
> Makes me groan everytime.
>

Not me. I always thought that was a funny line. Mainly because Luke got
dissed and ignored by Leia.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166186 ]

Fr, 11 November 2005 18:35

Guest

"John Duncan Yoyo" <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:d9b9n1lp987bad78vjrnte32ee175s7c9v [at] 4ax.com...
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:04:27 -0800, David B <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Domestos wrote:
>>
>>> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV ->
>>> VI
>>> let the series down...
>>>
>>> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
>>> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
>>>
>>> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not
>>> doing
>>> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
>>>
>>> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...
>>
>>Gee, let's remake Robocop, Predator and Terminator while we're at it.
>>:rolleyes:
>>
> Uh, there is talk of remaking Robocop. I can't imagine why. The
> original was a wonderfully violent singular vision.
> < http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0& id=33243&type=0>
> --

First it was the Apes, then Lord of the Rings, then Willy Wonka, then King
Kong(I STILL don't know why!), rumors of The Warriors and now Robocop?
When will it fucking end? I am tired or recording (so-called) artists and
people in films always remaking things. Imagine if all the greats were
remakes? Then waht would you have?

> John Duncan Yoyo
> ------------------------------o)
> Brought to you by the Binks for Senate campaign comittee.
> Coruscant is far, far away from wesa on Naboo.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166202 ]

Sa, 12 November 2005 01:40

Anybody

In article <dD4df.7368$Kv.4846 [at] newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, "Guest"
<n0gar [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

> "John Duncan Yoyo" <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> news:d9b9n1lp987bad78vjrnte32ee175s7c9v [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:04:27 -0800, David B <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Domestos wrote:
> >>
> >>> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV ->
> >>> VI
> >>> let the series down...
> >>>
> >>> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> >>> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
> >>>
> >>> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not
> >>> doing
> >>> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
> >>>
> >>> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...
> >>
> >>Gee, let's remake Robocop, Predator and Terminator while we're at it.
> >>:rolleyes:
> >>
> > Uh, there is talk of remaking Robocop. I can't imagine why. The
> > original was a wonderfully violent singular vision.
> > < http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0& id=33243&type=0>
>
> First it was the Apes, then Lord of the Rings, then Willy Wonka, then King
> Kong(I STILL don't know why!), rumors of The Warriors and now Robocop?
> When will it fucking end? I am tired or recording (so-called) artists and
> people in films always remaking things. Imagine if all the greats were
> remakes? Then waht would you have?

Luckily the reamke / update fad in Hollyweird is coming to an end,
although Robocop is one of a few still being planned. Others include a
new Quantum Leap TV series, a new Knight Rider TV series (as well as
movie and animated TV series) and sequels to both Rambo and Rocky. :-\

The next fad in Hollyweird seems to converting computer / console games
into movies. There's a pile of these in the works, including the
already made Doom.

The problem is that the fools currently in Hollyweird simply have no
real ideas of their own, so they go around buggering up the hard work
done by others in the past because these new fools THINK they know how
to make it better ... and we end up with rubbish that is barely
recognisable as having anything to do with the original it's supposedly
based on.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166223 ]

Sa, 12 November 2005 18:15

Aphelion

> That doesn't look as bad as when he is training with the seeker drone on
> the Falcon. Ugh...

I cannot for the life of me determine why ILM, the greatest effects house in
the world, which is owned by the man who directed the actual movie, couldn't
improve the lightsaber effects in this scene for the SEs and DVDs.

Aphelion

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166224 ]

Sa, 12 November 2005 18:18

Aphelion

> The problem is that the fools currently in Hollyweird simply have no
> real ideas of their own, so they go around buggering up the hard work
> done by others in the past because these new fools THINK they know how
> to make it better ... and we end up with rubbish that is barely
> recognisable as having anything to do with the original it's supposedly
> based on.

No. The "problem" if you want to call it one, is that movie remakes and
video game adaptations will:

$$$ MAKE MONEY $$$

If you want to blame anyone for a less-than-stellar product, or remake,
blame whoever owns the rights and sold out over artistic integrity.

Aphelion

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166229 ]

Sa, 12 November 2005 22:29

JGordon452

And......well, Anybody is the resident Lucas apologist/butt-kisser
here. Far be it from somone to actually suggest that George might have
left some plot holes here and there! Indeed, Episode 3 was a fun
movie, and it was what the rest of the prequels should have been more
like. But let's face it: continuity has not been completely
wrinkle-free. Sure, it's just a movie, but hey, there are plot holes
here and there. Sure, you can justify your way out of them, but it
takes more effort than should be needed. Of course, technically, some
of these holes are not so much holes, as they are dropped plot threads
(Sifo Dyas, etc.)

It's just that Anybody, somewhat like the thankfully departed C'Pi (who
was shamed into leaving because he was so CERTAIN how everything was
going to happen in Episode 3, that he made a bet with someone about a
plot point), feels he is some sort of high-level authority in the Star
Wars universe. Anyone that disagrees with him MUST be an idiot,
right???? It reminds me of a couple years back when some people
insisted that there was NO WAY Lucas would release the OT on DVD before
Episode 3, even though marketing would dictate that it would be a good
idea for building anticipation for EP 3.

In the end, at the very least we got a pretty watchable movie. Despite
poor dialogue and some bad acting/choices throughout the prequel
trilogy as a whole, the prequels are probably more than 70% good. I
suppose I'll take that. If I'd change anything in the series, it would
be to equalize the color saturation between the two trilogies, brighten
the sound in the original trilogy, and add some more ships via CGI to
the original trilogy just to keep the feeling more consistent (Episode
IV feels downright barren and deserted compared to the ultra-busy
prequels). So Georgie deserves some kudos for his hail mary pass in
the last third.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166241 ]

So, 13 November 2005 03:13

Anybody

In article <Stpdf.1808$DL6.96 [at] twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "Aphelion"
<sonship [at] twcny.rr.com> wrote:

> > The problem is that the fools currently in Hollyweird simply have no
> > real ideas of their own, so they go around buggering up the hard work
> > done by others in the past because these new fools THINK they know how
> > to make it better ... and we end up with rubbish that is barely
> > recognisable as having anything to do with the original it's supposedly
> > based on.
>
> No. The "problem" if you want to call it one, is that movie remakes and
> video game adaptations will:
>
> $$$ MAKE MONEY $$$
>
> If you want to blame anyone for a less-than-stellar product, or remake,
> blame whoever owns the rights and sold out over artistic integrity.

They only make money because there are piles of morons out there that
simply go and see any old rubbish no matter what - every Friday night
(or whenever) they "must" go and see a movie, even when they know
they'll think it's garbage. The other factor is that many of the movies
are hyped beyond all common sense. Either way the Hollyweird fools then
sit there wondering why their "great" new movie / TV show is such a
dreadful bomb. :-\

The other problem is that Hollyweird works in fads. Someone creates a
mildly successful movie and everyone else simply copies it. We're now
moving out of the "remake" fad and into a "game movie" fad. The same
idiocy happens on TV where one network makes something and the others
all try to copy it - we end up with the same rubbish on every channel
and they wonder why people are switching off. You would think ONE of
them had enough sense to make something different for the people who
don't want to watch "America's Funniest Survivor Idol". :-(

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166243 ]

So, 13 November 2005 03:19

Darth Mura

Guest wrote:

>
> First it was the Apes, then Lord of the Rings, then Willy Wonka, then King
> Kong(I STILL don't know why!), rumors of The Warriors and now Robocop?
> When will it fucking end? I am tired or recording (so-called) artists and
> people in films always remaking things. Imagine if all the greats were
> remakes? Then waht would you have?
>

99% of all art is a rehash of some kind.

Re: Remake Episodes IV-VI [message #166276 ]

So, 13 November 2005 18:38

Jedi Jonny

"Guest" <n0gar [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dD4df.7368$Kv.4846 [at] newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "John Duncan Yoyo" <john-duncan-yoyo [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> news:d9b9n1lp987bad78vjrnte32ee175s7c9v [at] 4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:04:27 -0800, David B <bothecat3 [at] hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Domestos wrote:
> >>
> >>> After watchin the first three, the now cheap effects in episodes IV ->
> >>> VI
> >>> let the series down...
> >>>
> >>> Lucas should remake the last three from scratch ... Same dialog, sake
> >>> locations, new actors, but with updated CGI and effects...
> >>>
> >>> Now that would be cool and he would make millions/billions from not
> >>> doing
> >>> very much story creation.... I would go and see them...
> >>>
> >>> He could also tidy up all the plot holes me thinks...
> >>
> >>Gee, let's remake Robocop, Predator and Terminator while we're at it.
> >>:rolleyes:
> >>
> > Uh, there is talk of remaking Robocop. I can't imagine why. The
> > original was a wonderfully violent singular vision.
> >
< http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0& id=33243&type=0>
> > --
>
> First it was the Apes, then Lord of the Rings, then Willy Wonka, then King
> Kong(I STILL don't know why!), rumors of The Warriors and now Robocop?
> When will it fucking end? I am tired or recording (so-called) artists and
> people in films always remaking things. Imagine if all the greats were
> remakes? Then waht would you have?
>

If you actually took the time to look through movies, you would find there
are probably hundreds of remakes / story retelling
Here is just a few more to the ones you mentioned...

Anna & the King = The King and I
My Fair Lady = Pygmalion
Annie the musical
The House of Wax
The Ring
Robin Hood
Dracula

Note.. King Kong was also remade in 1976 starring jeff bridges

I could go on.. and on and on and ondan don dan don...(vague Titanic
Reference there.. another story retelling)
Film Greats will probably always get made & then remade. Probably in some
cases, purely to showcase an actors talents, when there are no other ideas.
In cases like The Ring, it was remade for an English speaking audience. In
some cases, the remake is better than the original, so it becomes the one we
remember (I'm thinking My Fair Lady, Titanic but I'm sure you can think of
different ones). I suppose we will have to accept it as a fact of life that
some of the movies we know, will from time to time get remade. Regardless
how we feel about it.

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