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A few random questions [message #156869]

Do, 27 Oktober 2005 19:49

Hira

There are these totally unrelated questions that I wanted to ask ...

1)Why is it inadvisable to encase your soul inside something that can
think and move for itself? (I don't get that "in-essence-divided" part
in OotP ... so if its something living you can't trust your soul to
it?)

2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?

3)What do you think about the 12 uses of dragon blood?Do you think they
will have a part to play in destroying the horcruxes? Perhaps the fact
that DD discovered the uses and that he defeated Grindelwald are
related ... that is he destroyed Grindelwald's horcrux by means of
dragon blood and then defeated him ...

4)What assurance do we have that Lord Voldemort isn't goin to try and
break into Harry's mind? (maybe after DD's death he gets to
complacent and doesn't give it a bother to find out what the other
side is up to)

Re: A few random questions [message #156879 ]

Do, 27 Oktober 2005 21:17

Kish

Re: A few random questions [message #156892 ]

Do, 27 Oktober 2005 23:43

TakenEvent

Re: A few random questions [message #156899 ]

Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 03:40

2000man

> >
> > 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?
> >
>
> To get rid of him.
>
dumbledore let snape do the dada job because uptill then he couldnt get
another teacher of potions as good as snape

Re: A few random questions [message #156901 ]

Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 04:06

Imagun Aqilya

<2000man [at] wongfaye.com> wrote in message
news:1130463640.453069.185150 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> >
>> > 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?
>> >
>>
>> To get rid of him.
>>
> dumbledore let snape do the dada job because uptill then he couldnt get
> another teacher of potions as good as snape
>

I think DD wanted to ensure that the students got some serious Dada learning
in and knew that Snape, being the big Dark Arts aficianado that he is, would
do whatever it took to whip those kids into shape. He probably also knew
that Snape wouldnt' be teaching at Hogwartz the next year so the Dada curse
wouldnt' really matter.

Re: A few random questions [message #158934 ]

Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 13:44

Toon

On 27 Oct 2005 10:49:44 -0700, "Hira" <Hira287 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>There are these totally unrelated questions that I wanted to ask ...
>
>1)Why is it inadvisable to encase your soul inside something that can
>think and move for itself? (I don't get that "in-essence-divided" part
>in OotP ... so if its something living you can't trust your soul to
>it?)

What makes you think they're connected? It's bad because a thinking
moving thing can get itself killed. It can rat you out. Imagine if
Harry discusses things with Nagini.

>2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?

Hated him and wanted him gone finally. No. There was nobody else,
the job's cursed, and Snape girths convince V to life it if he taught.
Then he'd have years to gauge the future resistance's resistance
capabilities.

>3)What do you think about the 12 uses of dragon blood?Do you think they
>will have a part to play in destroying the horcruxes? Perhaps the fact
>that DD discovered the uses and that he defeated Grindelwald are
>related ... that is he destroyed Grindelwald's horcrux by means of
>dragon blood and then defeated him ...

Grindelwald had a horcrux? Where's that one revealed.

>4)What assurance do we have that Lord Voldemort isn't goin to try and
>break into Harry's mind? (maybe after DD's death he gets to
>complacent and doesn't give it a bother to find out what the other
>side is up to)

The fact that he didn't for a whole year? That Harry mucked about
inside him a whole lot longer than he did Harry? If Harry detects
him, he can do that love thing he does so well and exorcise V form
him, again. He's a wizard, AKA a magician, and they never do the same
trick twice.

Re: A few random questions [message #158964 ]

Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 20:40

ashy0802

Hira wrote:
> There are these totally unrelated questions that I wanted to ask ...
>
> 1)Why is it inadvisable to encase your soul inside something that can
> think and move for itself? (I don't get that "in-essence-divided" part
> in OotP ... so if its something living you can't trust your soul to
> it?)

> Like everyone else said: It is susceptible to a mortal life. Idea of a horcrux is to keep that piece of soul alive & protected so won't die or be destroyed easily.

> 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?

> He knew LV was back and the kiddies needed some real training from a Dark Arts and DADA expert--who better than Snape. Plus, there weren't a lot of applicants for the job since everyone feels it is cursed.

> 3)What do you think about the 12 uses of dragon blood?Do you think they
> will have a part to play in destroying the horcruxes? Perhaps the fact
> that DD discovered the uses and that he defeated Grindelwald are
> related ... that is he destroyed Grindelwald's horcrux by means of
> dragon blood and then defeated him ...

> Grindelwald didn't have a horcrux. But I think DD defeating Grindelwald was another example of how powerful DD was. The 12 uses of dragon's blood may come up in book 7, but by that theory one could say that the tarantacula venom that Harry helped Slughorn get will also come up again in book 7. Who knows.

> 4)What assurance do we have that Lord Voldemort isn't goin to try and
> break into Harry's mind? (maybe after DD's death he gets to
> complacent and doesn't give it a bother to find out what the other
> side is up to)

He probably won't try to break into Harry's mind again just b/c of
fearing Harry will be able to see into his again as well--bad enough
Harry can sense when LV is extremely mad or happy. And he probably
won't try to possess Harry again because it caused him too much pain
those few seconds he did in the MOM fight against DD. I think once LV
sees a particular approach doesn't benefit him or causes him some form
of displeasure, he abandons it.

Re: A few random questions [message #158972 ]

Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 21:23

Ard Rhi

"Hira" <Hira287 [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130435384.785831.84820 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> There are these totally unrelated questions that I wanted to ask ...
>
> 1)Why is it inadvisable to encase your soul inside something that can
> think and move for itself? (I don't get that "in-essence-divided" part
> in OotP ... so if its something living you can't trust your soul to
> it?)

The point of a horcrux is to place a piece of your soul within an object
that will last a long time. Since living creatures don't, there is that
element of risk. Objects can be controlled, harder to do that with something
that has a will of its own.

> 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?

I am guessing lack of options. The post has been jinxed since Dumbledore
refused it to Riddle. We've only seen the chaos that results from five
different teachers and it's massive. Of all the professors Dumbledore had
gotten for the post in Harry's time, not one of them was entirely
trustworthy. Even Lupin concealed not just his werewolf nature from the
public, but his history with the unregistered animagi Marauders. A history
that was very relevant to how Sirius Black was entering the castle.

By year 6, Dumbledore probably wanted to try his hand at someone he felt he
could trust and thought he knew the worst of. That's Severus.

> 3)What do you think about the 12 uses of dragon blood?Do you think they
> will have a part to play in destroying the horcruxes?

No. As another poster indicated, I think that was just padding for
Dumbledore's resume. Although it IS unusual how the other uses of his resume
such as the stone and the defeat of Grindelwald has played a part in the
story.

> Perhaps the fact
> that DD discovered the uses and that he defeated Grindelwald are
> related ... that is he destroyed Grindelwald's horcrux by means of
> dragon blood and then defeated him ...

We have no clue that Grindelwald had a horcrux or anything to really support
that.

> 4)What assurance do we have that Lord Voldemort isn't goin to try and
> break into Harry's mind?

I think both prefer staying out of each other's minds right now. Voldemort
doesn't want Harry to have access and certainly doesn't want to deal with
the pain, again. Harry has realized he can't trust what he sees in
Voldemort's thoughts, as well. They'll stay out of each other's minds
because it is the most comfortable course of action and because the last
time they did otherwise, NEITHER got what he expected or wanted.

(maybe after DD's death he gets to
> complacent and doesn't give it a bother to find out what the other
> side is up to)

Possible, but more likely they each learned their lesson about what playing
around in the other's mind can do. While such action MAY play a part in the
last book, neither is going to do it without heavy consideration, I think.

Ard Rhi

Re: A few random questions [message #158987 ]

Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 02:57

JoeMo

Hira escreveu:

> 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?

My guess is that DD needed Slughorn around so Harry could get the
memory from him. Slughorn teaches Potions, not DADA, and the only way
he could convince Sluggy to join the staff is to give him his old job
back. If Slughorn teaches Potions, that leaves Snape without a post...
except the annually available DADA job.... which he's always applied
for anyway. Bottom line, it seemed like the only option for DD to get
what he needed (the memory) and to fill all the staff positions. And as
for the curse, that's never stopped DD from filling the post with his
other buddies (Lupin, Moody, etc.)

Re: A few random questions [message #158988 ]

Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 03:44

Jean Lamb

I read this in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in the
story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart and soul
to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the year without
incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or otherwise forced to
leave, then the curse was still in effect and Snape wasn't really loyal to
Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally presume that if Snape were not
loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him and to the Order.

Ah, nothing like the excluded middle...for if Snape were loyal only to
himself, then the curse would _still_ work without necessarily helping the
Order much (this is assuming, naturally, that AD's death was not somehow
Otherwise Necessry).

And we all know just how good (NOT) some wizards are at logic.
--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

Re: A few random questions [message #159009 ]

Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 13:22

Toon

On 28 Oct 2005 11:40:44 -0700, "ashy0802" <ashy0802 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>those few seconds he did in the MOM fight against DD. I think once LV
>sees a particular approach doesn't benefit him or causes him some form
>of displeasure, he abandons it.

Except kill Harry Potter.

Re: A few random questions [message #159010 ]

Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 13:23

Toon

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:44:57 -0700, "Jean Lamb"
<tlambs1138 [at] charter.net> wrote:

>I read this in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in the
>story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart and soul
>to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the year without
>incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or otherwise forced to
>leave, then the curse was still in effect and Snape wasn't really loyal to
>Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally presume that if Snape were not
>loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him and to the Order.
>
>Ah, nothing like the excluded middle...for if Snape were loyal only to
>himself, then the curse would _still_ work without necessarily helping the
>Order much (this is assuming, naturally, that AD's death was not somehow
>Otherwise Necessry).
>
>And we all know just how good (NOT) some wizards are at logic.

OMG. he just gave Snape a WithcTest (to see if Snape's a Witch), If
he dies, he's not a witch.

Re: A few random questions [message #159011 ]

Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 13:25

Toon

On 28 Oct 2005 17:57:17 -0700, "JoeMo" <josephrmoore [at] gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Hira escreveu:
>
>> 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?
>
>My guess is that DD needed Slughorn around so Harry could get the
>memory from him. Slughorn teaches Potions, not DADA, and the only way
>he could convince Sluggy to join the staff is to give him his old job
>back. If Slughorn teaches Potions, that leaves Snape without a post...
>except the annually available DADA job.... which he's always applied
>for anyway. Bottom line, it seemed like the only option for DD to get
>what he needed (the memory) and to fill all the staff positions. And as
>for the curse, that's never stopped DD from filling the post with his
>other buddies (Lupin, Moody, etc.)

Like Lupin needed another curse. or is it one per customer, and he
was to be immune? or perhaps they'll cancel each other out? DADA's
normal again, Lupin's human?

Re: A few random questions [message #159061 ]

So, 30 Oktober 2005 02:14

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

> I read in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in the
> story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart and
> soul to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the year
> without incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or otherwise
> forced to leave, then the curse was still in effect and Snape wasn't
> really loyal to Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally presume that if
> Snape were not loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him and to the Order.

Barty Jr belonged heart and soul to Voldemort, yet the curse hit him.

Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #159113 ]

So, 30 Oktober 2005 21:23

Jean Lamb

> Barty Jr belonged heart and soul to Voldemort, yet the curse hit him.
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>
> --
> Free Margaret Blaine now!
>
--Good point, I hadn't remembered that. Although that means Voldie's curse
wasn't terribly competent--you'd think Lord Thingy would want to have one of
his own in the DADA position (even he's not stupid enough to want
Umbridge!). However, that does lead to the other question that apparently
that fanfic didn't answer--given that AD knew about the curse, why did he
put Snape there? Did he know enough to realize that Snape now had a sell-by
date? This makes me think that AD might have been told about all of the
Unbreakable Vow by then.

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

Re: A few random questions [message #159121 ]

Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 00:33

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:

>> Barty Jr belonged heart and soul to Voldemort, yet the curse hit him.

> --Good point, I hadn't remembered that.

Thanks, Jean.

> Although that means Voldie's curse wasn't terribly competent--you'd
> think Lord Thingy would want to have one of his own in the DADA position

He can do; they simply last a year, then he'd supply another one.

> (even he's not stupid enough to want Umbridge!).

One could argue that Umbridge was beneficial to the dark side, given that
she denied proper DADA instruction to students (the DA being unexpected).

> However, that does lead to the other question that apparently that
> fanfic didn't answer--given that AD knew about the curse, why did he put
> Snape there? Did he know enough to realize that Snape now had a sell-by
> date? This makes me think that AD might have been told about all of the
> Unbreakable Vow by then.

I think the answer to all this as that we've entered the end-game, where
the 'rules' change. Slughorn was Dumbledore's excuse to put Snape in the
DADA chair, so that he can leave Hogwarts after assisting his best friend
to move on to the next great adventure. Where this strategy went awry, in
my opinion, is that Dumbledore didn't anticipate the 'naughtiness' which
Slughorn would get up to, in enlarging his impressive collection...

Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #159142 ]

Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 04:06

Jean Lamb

>> (even he's not stupid enough to want Umbridge!).
>
> One could argue that Umbridge was beneficial to the dark side, given that
> she denied proper DADA instruction to students (the DA being unexpected).
>
--Point taken. However, the irritation factor in having to deal with her
would lower her value somewhat to _any_ side she took. Perhaps Lucius Malfoy
isn't agitating _that_ hard to get out of Azkaban?

> I think the answer to all this as that we've entered the end-game, where
> the 'rules' change. Slughorn was Dumbledore's excuse to put Snape in the
> DADA chair, so that he can leave Hogwarts after assisting his best friend
> to move on to the next great adventure. Where this strategy went awry, in
> my opinion, is that Dumbledore didn't anticipate the 'naughtiness' which
> Slughorn would get up to, in enlarging his impressive collection...
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>
--Well...AD had to figure that Slughorn would continue the same behavior
that possibly got him 'retired' in the first place, no matter what promises
he'd made. Snape was (if one believes his original repentance was real)
young enough to truly want to change, and even he retained all the charming
bits of character etc. which made him so beloved during his first stay at
Hogwarts (sarcasm alert ON). It certainly was necessary to have Slughorn
where he was accessible to Harry Potter, the Felix Felicis, and possibly a
set of hot tongs if available in order to get the Horcrux information out,
and this was the easiest way to accomplish it. Giving Snape the DADA
position accomplished several things: made sure the little brats actually
learned something in that department for a change without exposing them to a
werewolf or a Polyjuiced Death Eater (the two best teachers before then) and
allow him a chance to keep an eye on Draco and find out what in the name of
Merlin the little ferret was up to _now_.

I still await the events of book 7, of course, with great interest.

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

Re: A few random questions [message #159173 ]

Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 09:02

Notifier Deamon

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Re: A few random questions [message #159181 ]

Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 09:37

Toon

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:23:36 -0800, "Jean Lamb"
<tlambs1138 [at] charter.net> wrote:

>> Barty Jr belonged heart and soul to Voldemort, yet the curse hit him.
>>
>>
>> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>>
>> --
>> Free Margaret Blaine now!
>>
>--Good point, I hadn't remembered that. Although that means Voldie's curse
>wasn't terribly competent--you'd think Lord Thingy would want to have one of
>his own in the DADA position (even he's not stupid enough to want
>Umbridge!). However, that does lead to the other question that apparently
>that fanfic didn't answer--given that AD knew about the curse, why did he
>put Snape there? Did he know enough to realize that Snape now had a sell-by
>date? This makes me think that AD might have been told about all of the
>Unbreakable Vow by then.
>
>

Dd was secretly courting next years teacher, and planned to remove
SNape before year's end, so he can't be affected by the curse.

Alos, very few die. Why not let Snape teach a year, and whatever
happens, happens.

Re: A few random questions [message #160640 ]

Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 21:13

TakenEvent

Re: A few random questions [message #160683 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 02:41

dicconf

In article <1130547437.468255.116560 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
JoeMo <josephrmoore [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hira escreveu:
>
>> 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?
>
>My guess is that DD needed Slughorn around so Harry could get the
>memory from him.

Good point. That memory was key to Dd's understanding of how to
proceed.

> Slughorn teaches Potions, not DADA, and the only way he could
>convince Sluggy to join the staff is to give him his old job back.
>If Slughorn teaches Potions, that leaves Snape without a post...
>except the annually available DADA job.... which he's always applied
>for anyway. Bottom line, it seemed like the only option for DD to get
>what he needed (the memory) and to fill all the staff positions. And
>as for the curse, that's never stopped DD from filling the post with
>his other buddies (Lupin, Moody, etc.)

Besides all that, It was almost a given that Harry wasn't going to
return to school for the seventh year - he'd be of age, able to do
magic and at the same time no longer protected from Voldemort's direct
attacks - why would he stick around another year? He needed more
training, but Voldemort is unlikely to wait around until Harry's
finished school. So Dd decided the sixth year was the last chance
to finish training Harry. Aurors need to know Advanced Potions; it's
a requirement for the job. Presumably for a kid who is going to have
to fight Voldemort, the knowledge that an Auror has would be helpful
- so Dd got a Potions teacher who would take Harry with a less
restrictive O.W.L. grade. Snape was shunted sideways to teach DADA.

=Tamar

Re: A few random questions [message #160687 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 01:40

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:

>>> (even he's not stupid enough to want Umbridge!).

>> One could argue that Umbridge was beneficial to the dark side, given
>> that she denied proper DADA instruction to students (the DA being
>> unexpected).

> --Point taken. However, the irritation factor in having to deal with her
> would lower her value somewhat to _any_ side she took. Perhaps Lucius
> Malfoy isn't agitating _that_ hard to get out of Azkaban?

I agree, though Voldemort probably finds all his DEs irritating, the
sycophantic being the worst; so they'll be killed if he ever wins.

>> I think the answer to all this as that we've entered the end-game,
>> where the 'rules' change. Slughorn was Dumbledore's excuse to put Snape
>> in the DADA chair, so that he can leave Hogwarts after assisting his
>> best friend to move on to the next great adventure. Where this strategy
>> went awry, in my opinion, is that Dumbledore didn't anticipate the
>> 'naughtiness' which Slughorn would get up to, in enlarging his
>> impressive collection...

> --Well...AD had to figure that Slughorn would continue the same behaviour
> that possibly got him 'retired' in the first place, no matter what
> promises he'd made.

Yeah, but he never worries overmuch about what his staff gets up to.

> Snape was (if one believes his original repentance was real) young
> enough to truly want to change, and even he retained all the charming
> bits of character etc. which made him so beloved during his first stay
> at Hogwarts (sarcasm alert ON). It certainly was necessary to have
> Slughorn where he was accessible to Harry Potter, the Felix Felicis,

That's assuming the Felix Felicis wasn't a complete deception.

> and possibly a set of hot tongs if available in order to get the Horcrux
> information out, and this was the easiest way to accomplish it.

I dunno about that; it's more likely that this was merely the latest in
a long line of training exercises & loyalty tests that Dumbledore has
visited on the boy and his friends since they arrived at Hogwarts.

> Giving Snape the DADA position accomplished several things: made sure
> the little brats actually learned something in that department for a
> change without exposing them to a werewolf or a Polyjuiced Death Eater
> (the two best teachers before then)

Yep, though don't forget that Lupin was rather dangerous in the daytime
as well, given that he's one of the notorious Marauders. Of course, that
merely adds to the training regime; which throws new light on the amazing
generosity of the twins (Marauders mark II) in bestowing the Map on Harry
rather than keeping it for themselves, or giving it to their kid brother.

> and allow him a chance to keep an eye on Draco and find out what in the
> name of Merlin the little ferret was up to _now_.

Absolutely.

> I still await the events of book 7, of course, with great interest.

Ah yes, where everything of consequence will be revealed! ^_^

Blon (who obsessively awaits book 8, hopefully with free CD-ROM)

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #160725 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 09:44

Toon

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:02:16 -0600, George
<boygeorgewGETRID [at] OFTHISyahoo.com> wrote:

>"Jean Lamb" <tlambs1138 [at] charter.net> wrote in
>news:HSf9f.33028$E17.15613 [at] fe03.lga:
>
>>>> (even he's not stupid enough to want Umbridge!).
>>>
>>> One could argue that Umbridge was beneficial to the dark side, given
>>> that she denied proper DADA instruction to students (the DA being
>>> unexpected).
>>>
>> --Point taken. However, the irritation factor in having to deal with
>> her would lower her value somewhat to _any_ side she took. Perhaps
>> Lucius Malfoy isn't agitating _that_ hard to get out of Azkaban?
>
>Hem hem. Personally, I could easily see LV AK-ing Umbridge within a half
>hour of meeting her. :)

Like after her first hem hem. " AKed. Don't contradict me!"

Re: A few random questions [message #160726 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 09:47

Toon

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:41:56 -0000, dicconf [at] radix.net (Richard Eney)
wrote:

>In article <1130547437.468255.116560 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>JoeMo <josephrmoore [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>
>Besides all that, It was almost a given that Harry wasn't going to
>return to school for the seventh year - he'd be of age, able to do
>magic and at the same time no longer protected from Voldemort's direct
>attacks - why would he stick around another year? He needed more
>training, but Voldemort is unlikely to wait around until Harry's
>finished school.

Oh great. V's always outside waiting. Harry keeps yelling, "Not ye!"
Harry leaves in June. There's V waiting outside, wand raised, evil
smile on his face. "Final exam time, Potter!"

Re: A few random questions [message #160734 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 10:43

Tim Bruening

Toon wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 01:41:56 -0000, dicconf [at] radix.net (Richard Eney)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1130547437.468255.116560 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> >JoeMo <josephrmoore [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
>
> >
> >Besides all that, It was almost a given that Harry wasn't going to
> >return to school for the seventh year - he'd be of age, able to do
> >magic and at the same time no longer protected from Voldemort's direct
> >attacks - why would he stick around another year? He needed more
> >training, but Voldemort is unlikely to wait around until Harry's
> >finished school.
>
> Oh great. V's always outside waiting. Harry keeps yelling, "Not ye!"
> Harry leaves in June. There's V waiting outside, wand raised, evil
> smile on his face. "Final exam time, Potter!"

Or Snape is waiting outside with wand raised and an evil grin saying "Final
exam time, Potter!".

Re: A few random questions [message #160743 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 10:57

Tim Bruening

JoeMo wrote:

> Hira escreveu:
>
> > 2)Why did DD finally appoint Snape as the DADA teacher?
>
> My guess is that DD needed Slughorn around so Harry could get the
> memory from him. Slughorn teaches Potions, not DADA, and the only way
> he could convince Sluggy to join the staff is to give him his old job
> back. If Slughorn teaches Potions, that leaves Snape without a post...
> except the annually available DADA job.... which he's always applied
> for anyway. Bottom line, it seemed like the only option for DD to get
> what he needed (the memory) and to fill all the staff positions. And as
> for the curse, that's never stopped DD from filling the post with his
> other buddies (Lupin, Moody, etc.)

Lupin: A toilet that sews.

Moody: Demon cow.

Re: A few random questions [message #160744 ]

Di, 01 November 2005 10:58

Tim Bruening

Jean Lamb wrote:

> I read this in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in the
> story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart and soul
> to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the year without
> incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or otherwise forced to
> leave, then the curse was still in effect and Snape wasn't really loyal to
> Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally presume that if Snape were not
> loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him and to the Order.

Voldemort THINKS that Snape is loyal to him, so wouldn't he lift the curse
anyway?

Re: A few random questions [message #160874 ]

Mi, 02 November 2005 05:15

Jean Lamb

Good point, but this was already explained by er, um, Hi there! I can't
remember your name! who explained that Barty Crouch Jr. should have broken
the curse then, because he really WAS loyal to Voldemort.

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."
"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni [at] pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:43673C62.5CDB42BC [at] pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>
>
> Jean Lamb wrote:
>
>> I read this in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in
>> the
>> story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart and
>> soul
>> to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the year without
>> incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or otherwise forced to
>> leave, then the curse was still in effect and Snape wasn't really loyal
>> to
>> Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally presume that if Snape were not
>> loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him and to the Order.
>
> Voldemort THINKS that Snape is loyal to him, so wouldn't he lift the curse
> anyway?
>

Re: A few random questions [message #162950 ]

So, 06 November 2005 13:18

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

> Tim Bruening wrote:

>> Jean Lamb wrote:

>>> I read this in a fanfiction about the DADA job and it being cursed--in
>>> the story, AD saw it as a loyalty test. If Snape truly belonged heart
>>> and soul to Voldemort, the curse would be off and he would finish the
>>> year without incident or having to leave. If Snape was killed or
>>> otherwise forced to leave, then the curse was still in effect and
>>> Snape wasn't really loyal to Voldemort. Of course, AD would naturally
>>> presume that if Snape were not loyal to Voldemort, that he was to him
>>> and to the Order.

>> Voldemort THINKS that Snape is loyal to him, so wouldn't he lift the
>> curse anyway?

> Good point, but this was already explained by er, um, Hi there! I can't
> remember your name!

What's hard to remember about Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen? ^_^

> who explained that Barty Crouch Jr. should have broken the curse then,
> because he really WAS loyal to Voldemort.

Exactly.

Blon (who doesn't mind if you call her Blon, or Miss Slitheen)

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #163058 ]

Mo, 07 November 2005 02:29

Jean Lamb

>> Good point, but this was already explained by er, um, Hi there! I can't
>> remember your name!
>
> What's hard to remember about Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen? ^_^

--Er, I was having a Blon moment? (spelled 'b-l-o-n-d-e' since a -real- Blon
moment would involve a great deal more intelligence than I obviously
showed).
>
>> who explained that Barty Crouch Jr. should have broken the curse then,
>> because he really WAS loyal to Voldemort.
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> Blon (who doesn't mind if you call her Blon, or Miss Slitheen)
>
Miss Slitheen, pleased to say hi and am now installing you in permanent
memory. I'll just have to stay away from magnets, and whatever those lovely
pirates were serving at their room party Saturday night at OryCon (Portland,
Oregon USA). 4 ounces of various juices, 2 of rum, repeated as necessary. I
think.

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

Re: A few random questions [message #164345 ]

Mo, 07 November 2005 19:28

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen wrote:

>>> Good point, but this was already explained by er, um, Hi there! I can't
>>> remember your name!

>> What's hard to remember about Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen? ^_^

> --Er, I was having a Blon moment? (spelled 'b-l-o-n-d-e' since a -real-
> Blon moment would involve a great deal more intelligence than I
> obviously showed).

Well, we Raxacoricofallapatorians are amazingly intelligent, though sadly
this is countered by a tendency towards flatulence when in disguise...

>>> who explained that Barty Crouch Jr. should have broken the curse then,
>>> because he really WAS loyal to Voldemort.

>> Exactly.

>> Blon (who doesn't mind if you call her Blon, or Miss Slitheen)

> Miss Slitheen, pleased to say hi and am now installing you in permanent
> memory. I'll just have to stay away from magnets, and whatever those
> lovely pirates were serving at their room party Saturday night at OryCon
> (Portland, Oregon USA). 4 ounces of various juices, 2 of rum, repeated
> as necessary. I think.

Hey, I'm there, and I'm easy - just as long as there's no salt.

Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #164356 ]

Di, 08 November 2005 03:46

Jean Lamb

>>> What's hard to remember about Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen? ^_^
>
>> --Er, I was having a Blon moment? (spelled 'b-l-o-n-d-e' since a -real-
>> Blon moment would involve a great deal more intelligence than I
>> obviously showed).
>
> Well, we Raxacoricofallapatorians are amazingly intelligent, though sadly
> this is countered by a tendency towards flatulence when in disguise...
>
--It's the beans. Damn those missing enzymes!

>> Miss Slitheen, pleased to say hi and am now installing you in permanent
>> memory. I'll just have to stay away from magnets, and whatever those
>> lovely pirates were serving at their room party Saturday night at OryCon
>> (Portland, Oregon USA). 4 ounces of various juices, 2 of rum, repeated
>> as necessary. I think.
>
> Hey, I'm there, and I'm easy - just as long as there's no salt.
>
>
> Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen
>
--Nah. I have to watch my sodium intake. Fortunately neither alcohol or the
fruit juices in use had any. (hic!).

--
Jean Lamb, tlambs1138 [at] charter.net
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with
lemon drops."

Re: A few random questions [message #164438 ]

Di, 08 November 2005 18:47

ashy0802

Toon wrote:
> On 28 Oct 2005 11:40:44 -0700, "ashy0802" <ashy0802 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >those few seconds he did in the MOM fight against DD. I think once LV
> >sees a particular approach doesn't benefit him or causes him some form
> >of displeasure, he abandons it.
>
> Except kill Harry Potter.

By 'particular approach' I meant a particular approach to killing Harry
Potter (thought that was implied). Whenever LV sees a particular
approach [to killing Harry Potter] doesn't benefit him or causes him
some form of displeasure, he abandons it.

Re: A few random questions [message #164558 ]

Mi, 09 November 2005 19:26

Blon Fel Fotch Passam

Jean Lamb wrote:

>>>> What's hard to remember about Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen?

>>> --Er, I was having a Blon moment? (spelled 'b-l-o-n-d-e' since a -real-
>>> Blon moment would involve a great deal more intelligence than I
>>> obviously showed).

>> Well, we Raxacoricofallapatorians are amazingly intelligent, though
>> sadly this is countered by a tendency towards flatulence when in
>> disguise...

> --It's the beans. Damn those missing enzymes!

That, and being much bigger on the inside.

>>> Miss Slitheen, pleased to say hi and am now installing you in
>>> permanent memory. I'll just have to stay away from magnets, and
>>> whatever those lovely pirates were serving at their room party
>>> Saturday night at OryCon (Portland, Oregon USA). 4 ounces of various
>>> juices, 2 of rum, repeated as necessary. I think.

>> Hey, I'm there, and I'm easy - just as long as there's no salt.

> --Nah. I have to watch my sodium intake. Fortunately neither alcohol or
> the fruit juices in use had any. (hic!).

Oh yes, glug those back.

Blon Fel Fotch Passameer-Day Slitheen

--
Free Margaret Blaine now!

Re: A few random questions [message #238154 ]

Di, 14 März 2006 07:46

Tim Bruening

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