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| Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150067] |
Fr, 21 Oktober 2005 06:21 |
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THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
higher grade]
CHARLIE X: B+ [scary]
WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE: B+ [perennially underrated]
THE NAKED TIME: B+ [Strangely moving.]
THE ENEMY WITHIN: A- (Count me among the few who like it when Shatner
chews up scenery)
MUDD'S WOMEN: C [If Dr.Phil and some NBC staff hack wrote a Star Trek
episode. Good Finnerman close-up photography, at least (as always).]
WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
MIRI: B+ [Always underrated. Good touch to make the children's taunts
echo throughout the streets. Kirk should not have to face later
Starfleet investigation for his conduct during this episode - the girl
is over 300 years old!]
DAGGER OF THE MIND: B+ [couldn't they have thought of something more
imaginative than the old "through the air vent" trick?]
THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the bridge -
permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's committee?]
THE MENAGERIE: A- [Final shot of Kirk's face, lit in wonder, is one of
the all-time classic TOS moments.]
THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]
THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
given this one the A it really deserves.]
SHORE LEAVE: B [Simply meant to be a fun episode, like "Tribbles".]
THE GALILEO SEVEN: A- [What great direction. What amazing anger and
bitterness between Spock and the rest of the marooned crew. What a
wasted opportunity for Spock to sock a knuckle-sandwich into Bones'
hissing face without Kirk being around.]
THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS: B+ [Underrated. The guy who played the Squire
really stole the show. Are he and his parents Thasians?]
ARENA: B [I have a soft spot for this one. Tell the yahoos who protest
the "cheap, rubber suit" to chew on an uninflated tire]
TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
computer tapes being "antiques".]
COURT MARTIAL: B [It was never clear if Finney's daughter was in on the
plot]
THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
foot.]
SPACE SEED: A- [There's that incompetent admissions staff at Starfleet
Academy, again! Only 1 out-of-every 50,000 applicants are admitted, and
they send acceptance letters to both McGivers and Bailey.]
A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON: B+ [the dialogue between Kirk and Spock really
begins to gel starting with this episode]
THIS SIDE OF PARADISE: C [Remarkable scenes of Kirk alone on the bridge
and, later, goading Spock with the most unbelievable insults
imaginable, can't save us from a by-the-numbers plot and an agonizingly
painful tender scene between Spock and Jill Ireland]
THE DEVIL IN THE DARK: A- [Yeah, it ends a little too neatly and
optimistically. But "...the pain...the murder..." is too good to be
missed.
ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
THE ALTERNATIVE FACTOR: C+ [Bad as it is, it's not the worst episode of
season one. And with some major tweaking, had the potential to be a 'B'
episode]
THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER: A+ [no terse comment necessary]
OPERATION ANNIHILATE!: B+ [I haven't watched this in a long time; it
might deserve an A-]
Shnaggletooth
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150068 ] |
Fr, 21 Oktober 2005 07:06 |
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in article 1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com at shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote on 10/20/05 9:21
PM:
> THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
> higher grade]
He is kind of muddle headed. But in his defense, the creature does seem to
have a hypnotic effect on people -- Kirk just sits there waiting to be
eaten, even after Spock pulls it off of him.
>
> CHARLIE X: B+ [scary]
yep
>
> WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE: B+ [perennially underrated]
Yep; a fine show.
>
> THE NAKED TIME: B+ [Strangely moving.]
Yes. How come this works so much better than TNG's 'The Naked Now'?
>
> THE ENEMY WITHIN: A- (Count me among the few who like it when Shatner
> chews up scenery)
Nobody does it better!
>
> MUDD'S WOMEN: C [If Dr.Phil and some NBC staff hack wrote a Star Trek
> episode. Good Finnerman close-up photography, at least (as always).]
It's kinda strange, but fun.
>
> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
A solid A. Sherry Jackson, Ted Cassidy, evil robot duplicates, Vulcan
racism, Sherry Jackson -- it's got it all.
>
> MIRI: B+ [Always underrated. Good touch to make the children's taunts
> echo throughout the streets. Kirk should not have to face later
> Starfleet investigation for his conduct during this episode - the girl
> is over 300 years old!]
I've got problems with Miri. That whole duplicate Earth is a bit much.
They addressed it finally 4 decades later in the Shatner novels. C.
>
> DAGGER OF THE MIND: B+ [couldn't they have thought of something more
> imaginative than the old "through the air vent" trick?]
C for me. There are people who dearly love Helen Noel, but I'm lukewarm on
her.
>
> THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the bridge -
> permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
> rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
> successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's committee?]
I'd give Corbomite a solid A. I was surprised when I watched the DVDs just
how well it holds up, and how much of the series is in place right from the
start.
>
> THE MENAGERIE: A- [Final shot of Kirk's face, lit in wonder, is one of
> the all-time classic TOS moments.]
A B for me. Maybe a B+. Fun, but doesn't make me crave to see it again.
>
> THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
> obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
> writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
> stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]
I like Conscience of the King. Great babe, driven Kirk, our only visit ever
to the hangar deck observation area. Solid B for me.
>
> THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
> sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
> given this one the A it really deserves.]
Yeah, one last pass to make it space science instead of sub science.
>
> SHORE LEAVE: B [Simply meant to be a fun episode, like "Tribbles".]
Oh, at least a B+. Maybe an A-. If they'd had the elephant, an A.
>
> THE GALILEO SEVEN: A- [What great direction. What amazing anger and
> bitterness between Spock and the rest of the marooned crew. What a
> wasted opportunity for Spock to sock a knuckle-sandwich into Bones'
> hissing face without Kirk being around.]
I'm lukewarm on G7. Spock should have let a few more of his crew die. C.
>
> THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS: B+ [Underrated. The guy who played the Squire
> really stole the show. Are he and his parents Thasians?]
I find Squire annoying. Probably worst of season for me. C-
>
> ARENA: B [I have a soft spot for this one. Tell the yahoos who protest
> the "cheap, rubber suit" to chew on an uninflated tire]
A- for me. I like Arena. And boy howdy, is that rubber suit better than
that awful 21st Century Enterprise Gorn crapola.
>
> TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
> computer tapes being "antiques".]
yep
>
> COURT MARTIAL: B [It was never clear if Finney's daughter was in on the
> plot]
I think she figured it out, but wasn't in on it from the start. I also
think she thought her old man offed himself, not that he was hiding.
>
> THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
> to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
> Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
> Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
> where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
> Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
> foot.]
I think Kirk talking the computer down is only cliched in retrospect; isn't
this the first time he did it?
>
> SPACE SEED: A- [There's that incompetent admissions staff at Starfleet
> Academy, again! Only 1 out-of-every 50,000 applicants are admitted, and
> they send acceptance letters to both McGivers and Bailey.]
Every time I wonder how some incompetent fool got on Picard's ship, I
remember McGivers. The saving grace is that Kirk thought so little of her,
and noted she didn't contribute. That, and she died no doubt horribly on
Ceti Alpha.
>
> A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON: B+ [the dialogue between Kirk and Spock really
> begins to gel starting with this episode]
I've never liked it. I don't know why. C, at best.
>
> THIS SIDE OF PARADISE: C [Remarkable scenes of Kirk alone on the bridge
> and, later, goading Spock with the most unbelievable insults
> imaginable, can't save us from a by-the-numbers plot and an agonizingly
> painful tender scene between Spock and Jill Ireland]
A B+ for me. Memorable stuff between Kirk and Spock and Spock and Lelia.
That 'you couldn't pronounce it' line. Lots of nice locations we never saw
before or after.
>
> THE DEVIL IN THE DARK: A- [Yeah, it ends a little too neatly and
> optimistically. But "...the pain...the murder..." is too good to be
> missed.
Great stuff.
>
> ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
Yes. I've always enjoyed it a lot.
>
> THE ALTERNATIVE FACTOR: C+ [Bad as it is, it's not the worst episode of
> season one. And with some major tweaking, had the potential to be a 'B'
> episode]
I like it better than Squire, and maybe better than G7. Still, it's at best
a C.
>
> THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER: A+ [no terse comment necessary]
nope.
>
> OPERATION ANNIHILATE!: B+ [I haven't watched this in a long time; it
> might deserve an A-]
Another good show. Those location shows really hold up.
>
> Shnaggletooth
>
--
You Can't Stop the Signal
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150070 ] |
Fr, 21 Oktober 2005 16:27 |
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shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com writes:
>THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
>higher grade]
Excuse me, what decade is this? *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150071 ] |
Fr, 21 Oktober 2005 16:48 |
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in article 11lhumdlgk39s6d [at] news.supernews.com, Paul Vader at
pv+usenet [at] pobox.com wrote on 10/21/05 7:27 AM:
> shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com writes:
>> THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
>> higher grade]
>
> Excuse me, what decade is this? *
The decade when TOS is the best Trek every produced!
--
You Can't Stop the Signal
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150077 ] |
Fr, 21 Oktober 2005 23:16 |
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pv+usenet [at] pobox.com (Paul Vader) wrote in
news:11lhumdlgk39s6d [at] news.supernews.com:
>
> Excuse me, what decade is this? *
Why I remember back when I took the five star polls on each book of The
Aeneid on my abacus....
-==Kensu==-
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150082 ] |
Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 06:10 |
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<shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
> higher grade]
I like this one too. It's often just dismissed as a monster-on-the-loose
story, but it's deeper than that.
> CHARLIE X: B+ [scary]
It's okay, but I'm not a fan of the "omnipotent being" formula.
> WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE: B+ [perennially underrated]
Underrated, really? I think it's usually cited as one of the best episodes,
which I think it is.
> THE NAKED TIME: B+ [Strangely moving.]
Hey, anything with the word "naked" in the title in is good enough for me.
> THE ENEMY WITHIN: A- (Count me among the few who like it when Shatner
> chews up scenery)
Preposterous premise, but entertaining.
> MUDD'S WOMEN: C [If Dr.Phil and some NBC staff hack wrote a Star Trek
> episode. Good Finnerman close-up photography, at least (as always).]
Yep, pretty mediocre.
> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue James
Cameron.
> MIRI: B+ [Always underrated. Good touch to make the children's taunts
> echo throughout the streets. Kirk should not have to face later
> Starfleet investigation for his conduct during this episode - the girl
> is over 300 years old!]
Liked it.
> DAGGER OF THE MIND: B+ [couldn't they have thought of something more
> imaginative than the old "through the air vent" trick?]
Liked it.
> THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the bridge -
> permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
> rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
> successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's committee?]
Pretty decent.
> THE MENAGERIE: A- [Final shot of Kirk's face, lit in wonder, is one of
> the all-time classic TOS moments.]
I didn't like Spock going rogue. How can anyone ever trust him again?
> THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
> obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
> writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
> stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]
I really liked this one. Good drama, good mystery and some tidbits into
Kirk's background.
> THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
> sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
> given this one the A it really deserves.]
My favorite of all.
> SHORE LEAVE: B [Simply meant to be a fun episode, like "Tribbles".]
Another favorite.
> THE GALILEO SEVEN: A- [What great direction. What amazing anger and
> bitterness between Spock and the rest of the marooned crew. What a
> wasted opportunity for Spock to sock a knuckle-sandwich into Bones'
> hissing face without Kirk being around.]
Spock was an excellent supporting character, and this episode shows that it
was wise to keep him as a supporting character. He just did not have the
charisma to be a lead character.
> THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS: B+ [Underrated. The guy who played the Squire
> really stole the show. Are he and his parents Thasians?]
A disappointment to me since it was written by the guy who wrote "Balance of
Terror". Probably due to my bias against the "omnipotent being" theme.
> ARENA: B [I have a soft spot for this one. Tell the yahoos who protest
> the "cheap, rubber suit" to chew on an uninflated tire]
Liked it.
> TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
> computer tapes being "antiques".]
I always thought time travel as a premise was too much of a crutch. Can't
think of a good story this week? No problem. We'll just send the gang back
in time. This was pretty entertaining though.
> COURT MARTIAL: B [It was never clear if Finney's daughter was in on the
> plot]
I got the impression she believed he was dead at first, then found out later
that he was still alive. Anyway, I liked it. No aliens, no time travel, no
alternate dimensions, just a good, basic human drama.
> THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
> to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
> Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
> Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
> where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
> Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
> foot.]
Kind of slow moving. But I always liked when Kirk used his powers of
persuasion. It should him as a man of brains as well as brawn. And since
this is the first episode in which Kirk was shown outsmarting a computer, it
shouldn't be dismissed as a cliche.
> SPACE SEED: A- [There's that incompetent admissions staff at Starfleet
> Academy, again! Only 1 out-of-every 50,000 applicants are admitted, and
> they send acceptance letters to both McGivers and Bailey.]
Another good one. Kirk shows brains and brawn.
> A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON: B+ [the dialogue between Kirk and Spock really
> begins to gel starting with this episode]
A great episode for Kirk.
> THIS SIDE OF PARADISE: C [Remarkable scenes of Kirk alone on the bridge
> and, later, goading Spock with the most unbelievable insults
> imaginable, can't save us from a by-the-numbers plot and an agonizingly
> painful tender scene between Spock and Jill Ireland]
Of all the people on the ship, only Kirk could resist the spores. What a
guy.
> THE DEVIL IN THE DARK: A- [Yeah, it ends a little too neatly and
> optimistically. But "...the pain...the murder..." is too good to be
> missed.
Again, not just a monster-on-the-loose story.
> ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
Eh, omnipotent beings again. A little disappointing to me because any
respectible superior being should be able to see that the Klingons deserved
to get their BUTTS KICKED!!
> THE ALTERNATIVE FACTOR: C+ [Bad as it is, it's not the worst episode of
> season one. And with some major tweaking, had the potential to be a 'B'
> episode]
I actually kind of liked it.
> THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER: A+ [no terse comment necessary]
Time travel again, but got to admit, a really good drama.
> OPERATION ANNIHILATE!: B+ [I haven't watched this in a long time; it
> might deserve an A-]
Well this WAS a monster-on-the-loose story (or monsters), but a good
diversion.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150084 ] |
Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 11:03 |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:10:28 GMT, "Marcovaldo"
<Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
><shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>
>Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue James
>Cameron.
Bit late for that now; he's been dead for eleven years.
Jerry Brown
--
A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)
<http://www.jwbrown.co.uk>
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150095 ] |
Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 22:37 |
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"Jerry Brown" <jerry [at] jwbrown.co.uk.RemoveThisBitToReply> wrote in message
news:140kl1tgtblmpjqme6g255rq7cslrqf2vq [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:10:28 GMT, "Marcovaldo"
> <Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>><shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
>>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>>
>>Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue James
>>Cameron.
>
> Bit late for that now; he's been dead for eleven years.
>
James Cameron is dead????????
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150096 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 01:53 |
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in article 0qx6f.481504$5N3.268249 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
Marcovaldo at Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net wrote on 10/22/05 1:37 PM:
> "Jerry Brown" <jerry [at] jwbrown.co.uk.RemoveThisBitToReply> wrote in message
> news:140kl1tgtblmpjqme6g255rq7cslrqf2vq [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:10:28 GMT, "Marcovaldo"
>> <Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
>>>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>>>
>>> Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue James
>>> Cameron.
>>
>> Bit late for that now; he's been dead for eleven years.
>>
>
> James Cameron is dead????????
>
>
No silly. Harlan Ellison.
--
You Can't Stop the Signal
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150097 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 02:09 |
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Once Upon A Time ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>in article 0qx6f.481504$5N3.268249 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>Marcovaldo at Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net wrote on 10/22/05 1:37 PM:
>
>> "Jerry Brown" <jerry [at] jwbrown.co.uk.RemoveThisBitToReply> wrote in message
>> news:140kl1tgtblmpjqme6g255rq7cslrqf2vq [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:10:28 GMT, "Marcovaldo"
>>> <Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
>>>>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>>>>
>>>> Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue James
>>>> Cameron.
>>>
>>> Bit late for that now; he's been dead for eleven years.
>>>
>>
>> James Cameron is dead????????
>>
>>
>No silly. Harlan Ellison.
Harlan's not dead, he's just napping.
**
Captain Infinity
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150103 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 06:49 |
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"Captain Infinity" <Infinity [at] captaininfinity.us> wrote in message
news:93lll19b7a9pidgvn1q5ut3sbl60h0tjui [at] 4ax.com...
> Once Upon A Time ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>
> >in article 0qx6f.481504$5N3.268249 [at] bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
> >Marcovaldo at Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net wrote on 10/22/05 1:37 PM:
> >
> >> "Jerry Brown" <jerry [at] jwbrown.co.uk.RemoveThisBitToReply> wrote in
message
> >> news:140kl1tgtblmpjqme6g255rq7cslrqf2vq [at] 4ax.com...
> >>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:10:28 GMT, "Marcovaldo"
> >>> <Marcovaldo [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>
> >>>>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
> >>>>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call
mimickry.]
> >>>>
> >>>> Shhh, you'll convince Robert Bloch to pull a Harlan Ellison and sue
James
> >>>> Cameron.
> >>>
> >>> Bit late for that now; he's been dead for eleven years.
> >>>
> >>
> >> James Cameron is dead????????
> >>
> >>
> >No silly. Harlan Ellison.
>
>
> Harlan's not dead, he's just napping.
'es pining for the fiords
--
Qa'pla
Kweeg
Ten of Canadian Clubs in the Eeeevil Trek Cabal
http://members.shaw.ca/iksbloodoath
"Half a gallon a'scotch!" Scotty (Spectre of the Gun)
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150113 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 13:15 |
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<shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Remarkably in agreement with your assessments:
> THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
> higher grade]
But the monster suit was very cool!
>
> CHARLIE X: B+ [scary]
>
I give this one an A. It was very Twilight Zone, and the guest star
performance was outstanding.
>
> MIRI: B+ [Always underrated. Good touch to make the children's taunts
> echo throughout the streets. Kirk should not have to face later
> Starfleet investigation for his conduct during this episode - the girl
> is over 300 years old!]
The evil children thing was already overdone in 1966, but still a good romp.
>
> THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the bridge -
> permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
> rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
> successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's committee?]
This gets an A! Balok's faking them out was a great idea, and Clint Howard
was a cool choice. But Baily...who cast this bad actor?
>
> THE MENAGERIE: A- [Final shot of Kirk's face, lit in wonder, is one of
> the all-time classic TOS moments.]
>
More like an A+! It mined the original pilot, which was just brilliant.
> THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
> obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
> writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
> stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]
>
I have to agree. The one cool thing about this episode was the great acting
by Shatner. When Lenore really goes whack, he has this reaction where he
gets this look on his face that says, "Ohmygod, I slept with her?" Jim,
I've been there, I feel your pain.
> THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
> sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
> given this one the A it really deserves.]
>
A! It talks about prejudice in a realistic adult manner, unlke so much
television (including other Trek episodes). And Nimoy was just amazing. The
cheesy wedding scene was the only part I hated.
>
> ARENA: B [I have a soft spot for this one. Tell the yahoos who protest
> the "cheap, rubber suit" to chew on an uninflated tire]
The opening really hooked me. And the premise is very Trekish.
>
> TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
> computer tapes being "antiques".]
A+! The guest star was outstanding, the scene with Kirk under arrest was
hilarious, the whole thing was just remarkable.
>
> COURT MARTIAL: B [It was never clear if Finney's daughter was in on the
> plot]
>
More like an F. Stupid from start to end, and the microphone gadget was so
stupid.
> THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
> to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
> Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
> Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
> where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
> Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
> foot.]
The sexual licentiousness in a brief period of release....very mature
concept for the perios.
>
> SPACE SEED: A- [There's that incompetent admissions staff at Starfleet
> Academy, again! Only 1 out-of-every 50,000 applicants are admitted, and
> they send acceptance letters to both McGivers and Bailey.]
Yeah, but Ricardo Montalban was outstanding. And what a great plot to the
whole episode.
>
> ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
Quite a mature concept for the time. Introducing humility to our heroes.
Too bad TNG didn't follow up on this one.
>
> THE ALTERNATIVE FACTOR: C+ [Bad as it is, it's not the worst episode of
> season one. And with some major tweaking, had the potential to be a 'B'
> episode]
It was horrible! Stupid story, lame FX, and a terrible guest star (in
fairness, he was a last minute replacement).
>
> OPERATION ANNIHILATE!: B+ [I haven't watched this in a long time; it
> might deserve an A-]
No, it was pretty weak actually. Melodramatic, took a good premise and
didn't do much with it. And the McGuffin to solve the dilemma - stupid!
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So, 23 Oktober 2005 13:19 |
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
news:BF7DC579.58699%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
> >
> > WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
> > James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>
> A solid A. Sherry Jackson, Ted Cassidy, evil robot duplicates, Vulcan
> racism, Sherry Jackson -- it's got it all.
> >
Sherry Jackson as Andrea the Android - most attractive woman ever to appear
in Trek. When this aired I was about four years old (and already a Trek
fan), and I think it set a pattern for me - I've had a lot of calm band
brainy brunette beauties since then that I chased (and a few I caught).
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150128 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 15:32 |
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in article IkK6f.448$yX2.124 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, Bo Raxo at
invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com wrote on 10/23/05 4:19 AM:
>
> "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net> wrote in message
> news:BF7DC579.58699%ANIM8Rfsk [at] cox.net...
>>>
>>> WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
>>> James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>>
>> A solid A. Sherry Jackson, Ted Cassidy, evil robot duplicates, Vulcan
>> racism, Sherry Jackson -- it's got it all.
>>>
>
> Sherry Jackson as Andrea the Android - most attractive woman ever to appear
> in Trek.
What he said.
When this aired I was about four years old (and already a Trek
> fan), and I think it set a pattern for me - I've had a lot of calm band
> brainy brunette beauties since then that I chased (and a few I caught).
>
>
>
--
You Can't Stop the Signal
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150131 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 19:52 |
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article 1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
> shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com at shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote on 10/20/05 9:21
> PM:
snip
> >
> > THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
> > to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
> > Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
> > Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
> > where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
> > Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
> > foot.]
>
> I think Kirk talking the computer down is only cliched in retrospect; isn't
> this the first time he did it?
I might be too hard on the concept of the self-destructing computer;
even OUR computers of today freeze and get screwed up with just the
slightest bit of extra "mental" effort (as I know all too well.)
> >
> > THIS SIDE OF PARADISE: C [Remarkable scenes of Kirk alone on the bridge
> > and, later, goadi
ng Spock with the most unbelievable insults
> > imaginable, can't save us from a by-the-numbers plot and an agonizingly
> > painful tender scene between Spock and Jill Ireland]
>
> A B+ for me. Memorable stuff between Kirk and Spock and Spock and Lelia.
> That 'you couldn't pronounce it' line. Lots of nice locations we never saw
> before or after.
I might've been a bit too hard on this one. In retrospect, a B- for me
(because of the great individual moments). I just thought the idea of
everybody immediately coming back to their senses after engaging in a
few angry words and fisticuffs was lame.
Shnaggletooth
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So, 23 Oktober 2005 19:59 |
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Marcovaldo wrote:
> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
> > ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
>
> Eh, omnipotent beings again. A little disappointing to me because any
> respectible superior being should be able to see that the Klingons deserved
> to get their BUTTS KICKED!!
You're right - the Organians were morons not to see that the Klingons
were murdering villians who needed to be stopped by whatever force was
necessary. They made it out as if the Federation and the Klingon Empire
were equally bad. Kirk was right when he said that the Federation had
"legitimate grievances" against the Klingons.
Shnaggletooth
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150134 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 20:09 |
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Bo Raxo wrote:
> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
snip
> > THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the bridge -
> > permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
> > rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
> > successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's committee?]
>
> This gets an A! Balok's faking them out was a great idea, and Clint Howard
> was a cool choice. But Baily...who cast this bad actor?
I'm beginning to have second thoughts on this one, too. I'll have to
change my mind and give it an A- (some critic I am!) I thought the guy
who played Bailey was pretty good, though; his job was to portray some
flaky, dopey young Lt., and that he certainly was. Kirk wasn't thinking
too clearly when he promoted Bailey to the bridge. At least Kirk made
up for his earlier mistake, and left him with Balok.
snip
> > THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
> > sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
> > given this one the A it really deserves.]
> >
>
> A! It talks about prejudice in a realistic adult manner, unlke so much
> television (including other Trek episodes). And Nimoy was just amazing. The
> cheesy wedding scene was the only part I hated.
>
Speaking of insubordinate Lt.navigators - Stiles was a total jerk. Bust
him down to ensign.
Shnaggletooth
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150135 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 20:26 |
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On 23 Oct 2005 10:59:03 -0700, shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>Marcovaldo wrote:
>> <shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>snip
>
>> > ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
>>
>> Eh, omnipotent beings again. A little disappointing to me because any
>> respectible superior being should be able to see that the Klingons deserved
>> to get their BUTTS KICKED!!
>
>You're right - the Organians were morons not to see that the Klingons
>were murdering villians who needed to be stopped by whatever force was
>necessary. They made it out as if the Federation and the Klingon Empire
>were equally bad.
They were equally annoying to the Organians. For the Organians to
care about the "legitimate grievances" of the Federation against the
Klingons, would be like the Federation caring about the legitimate
grievances of the many victims of aggressors on more primitive
planets, which they don't.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150137 ] |
So, 23 Oktober 2005 23:59 |
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> Sherry Jackson as Andrea the Android - most attractive woman ever to
> appear in Trek.
Close but no cigar! Uhura was the most attractive woman, interstingly I've
chased similar women for my lifetime, and finally caught a Nubian Beauty
from East Africa.
LLAP, Bob
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
of the last priest." -Denis Diderot (1713 - 1784)
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150138 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 01:27 |
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>THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
>to the climax had "A-" written all over it.
The most accurate portrayal of Canada I've ever seen.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150141 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 03:11 |
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"Immortus45" <Immortus45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130110065.430059.129620 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
> >to the climax had "A-" written all over it.
>
> The most accurate portrayal of Canada I've ever seen.
>
So exactly *when* is festival?
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150142 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 03:17 |
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On 23 Oct 2005, the world was enlightened by Bo Raxo's opinion about...
> "Immortus45" <Immortus45 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1130110065.430059.129620 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything up
>> >to the climax had "A-" written all over it.
>>
>> The most accurate portrayal of Canada I've ever seen.
>>
>
> So exactly *when* is festival?
1st day of the NHL season ;)
kev
--
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CJCherryh.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150143 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 03:37 |
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shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> Marcovaldo wrote:
>
>><shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> snip
>
>
>>>ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
>>
>>Eh, omnipotent beings again. A little disappointing to me because any
>>respectible superior being should be able to see that the Klingons deserved
>>to get their BUTTS KICKED!!
>
>
> You're right - the Organians were morons not to see that the Klingons
> were murdering villians who needed to be stopped by whatever force was
> necessary.
Spock said that the incorporeal Organians were as above humans on the
evolutionary scale, as humans are above the amoeba. If so, then at
their level the Organians couldn't care less about how and why the
Federation and Klingons were fighting. To them, it meant no more than a
"war" between two colonies of ants means to us.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150144 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 03:39 |
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shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>>>THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
>>>sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
>>>given this one the A it really deserves.]
>>>
>>
>>A! It talks about prejudice in a realistic adult manner, unlke so much
>>television (including other Trek episodes). And Nimoy was just amazing. The
>>cheesy wedding scene was the only part I hated.
>>
>
> Speaking of insubordinate Lt.navigators - Stiles was a total jerk. Bust
> him down to ensign.
Was he related to Captain Stiles in the movie ST III: The Search For Spock?
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150148 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 05:29 |
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"Steven L." <sdlitvin [at] earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:3VW6f.784$A63.700 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Marcovaldo wrote:
>>
>>><shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>>>>ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.]
>>>
>>>Eh, omnipotent beings again. A little disappointing to me because any
>>>respectible superior being should be able to see that the Klingons
>>>deserved
>>>to get their BUTTS KICKED!!
>>
>>
>> You're right - the Organians were morons not to see that the Klingons
>> were murdering villians who needed to be stopped by whatever force was
>> necessary.
>
> Spock said that the incorporeal Organians were as above humans on the
> evolutionary scale, as humans are above the amoeba. If so, then at their
> level the Organians couldn't care less about how and why the Federation
> and Klingons were fighting. To them, it meant no more than a "war"
> between two colonies of ants means to us.
Well, I don't know about you, but I always root for the good ants ; )
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150155 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 14:10 |
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article 1129868488.309257.79100 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
> shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com at shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote on 10/20/05 9:21
> PM:
>
> > WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
> > James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call mimickry.]
>
> A solid A. Sherry Jackson, Ted Cassidy, evil robot duplicates, Vulcan
> racism, Sherry Jackson -- it's got it all.
> >
The comedy version is better.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150156 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 14:16 |
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>Spock said that the incorporeal Organians were as above humans on the
>evolutionary scale, as humans are above the amoeba. If so, then at
>their level the Organians couldn't care less about how and why the
>Federation and Klingons were fighting. To them, it meant no more than a
>"war" between two colonies of ants means to us.
Not hardly. When's the last time you saw a person worried that two ant
mounds were killing too many of each other?
The reason that they overcame their feelings of disgust about
interfering and did it anyway was not that they found the whole matter
too trivial to bother with (obviously). Looks more like they just
didn't do their homework about what the Klingons were like.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #150157 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 14:18 |
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> Speaking of insubordinate Lt.navigators - Stiles was a total jerk. Bust
> him down to ensign.
>Was he related to Captain Stiles in the movie ST III: The Search For Spock?
No, he wasn't. The names weren't even spelled the same.
Good thing too. The "My, what a small universe" schtick is stupid
enough when they do it, without having fans actually wishing to see
more of it.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #156012 ] |
Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 23:28 |
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On 24 Oct 2005 05:16:28 -0700, "Graeme" <graemecree [at] aol.com> wrote:
>>Spock said that the incorporeal Organians were as above humans on the
>>evolutionary scale, as humans are above the amoeba. If so, then at
>>their level the Organians couldn't care less about how and why the
>>Federation and Klingons were fighting. To them, it meant no more than a
>>"war" between two colonies of ants means to us.
>
>
>Not hardly. When's the last time you saw a person worried that two ant
>mounds were killing too many of each other?
The Organians weren't weren't worried about what the Klingons and the
humans were doing to each other. They didn't give a damn. They were
annoyed because they were doing it near Organia.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #156016 ] |
Di, 25 Oktober 2005 02:24 |
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David Johnston wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2005 05:16:28 -0700, "Graeme" <graemecree [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Spock said that the incorporeal Organians were as above humans on the
>>>evolutionary scale, as humans are above the amoeba. If so, then at
>>>their level the Organians couldn't care less about how and why the
>>>Federation and Klingons were fighting. To them, it meant no more than a
>>>"war" between two colonies of ants means to us.
>>
>>
>>Not hardly. When's the last time you saw a person worried that two ant
>>mounds were killing too many of each other?
>
>
> The Organians weren't weren't worried about what the Klingons and the
> humans were doing to each other. They didn't give a damn. They were
> annoyed because they were doing it near Organia.
>
....or to put it in terms that matches the previous simile. They didn't
care that the ants were fighting over the sugar, they were irritated
that they were in the sugar in their kitchen.
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #156026 ] |
Di, 25 Oktober 2005 09:46 |
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In article <PhK6f.447$yX2.220 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> said:
>> TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
>> computer tapes being "antiques".]
>
> A+! The guest star was outstanding, the scene with Kirk under
> arrest was hilarious, the whole thing was just remarkable.
Except for the solution to the problem.
"Okay, first we go back in time three days to when we first
arrived..."
"Right."
"And then that means that we won't be in the sky for
Capt. Christopher to see--"
"What?"
"And we beam our three-days-older Capt. Christopher into his
younger self--"
"Excuse me?"
"And that'll mean that he won't remember any of this!"
"What?"
--
William December Starr <wdstarr [at] panix.com>
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #156031 ] |
Di, 25 Oktober 2005 16:24 |
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In article <djknsi$htf$1 [at] panix1.panix.com>,
William December Starr <wdstarr [at] panix.com> wrote:
>"Okay, first we go back in time three days to when we first
>arrived..."
>
>"Right."
>
>"And then that means that we won't be in the sky for
>Capt. Christopher to see--"
>
>"What?"
>
>"And we beam our three-days-older Capt. Christopher into his
>younger self--"
>
>"Excuse me?"
>
>"And that'll mean that he won't remember any of this!"
>
>"What?"
Hey, it's time travel, and it worked. Prove him wrong, lawyer-boy!
--
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #156032 ] |
Di, 25 Oktober 2005 17:53 |
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in article djknsi$htf$1 [at] panix1.panix.com, William December Starr at
wdstarr [at] panix.com wrote on 10/25/05 12:46 AM:
> In article <PhK6f.447$yX2.220 [at] newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us [at] thepentagon.removethis.com> said:
>
>>> TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
>>> computer tapes being "antiques".]
>>
>> A+! The guest star was outstanding, the scene with Kirk under
>> arrest was hilarious, the whole thing was just remarkable.
>
> Except for the solution to the problem.
>
> "Okay, first we go back in time three days to when we first
> arrived..."
>
> "Right."
>
> "And then that means that we won't be in the sky for
> Capt. Christopher to see--"
>
> "What?"
>
> "And we beam our three-days-older Capt. Christopher into his
> younger self--"
>
> "Excuse me?"
>
> "And that'll mean that he won't remember any of this!"
>
> "What?"
But he has to be wearing the right outfit. And the transporter adjust for
'standing' or 'sitting' heh.
Actually, since none of it ever happened, why did they have to return
Christopher or the guard at all?
And yet OH MY GOD THE ENTERPRISE IS IN THE ATMOSPHERE!!!
--
You Can't Stop the Signal
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #160008 ] |
Di, 01 November 2005 09:49 |
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From: shnaggleto... [at] yahoo.com
<<THE MAN TRAP: B [Bones acts too much like an idiot for this to get a
higher grade] >>>>>>>>>>>
B+ for me... lot to like, Vulcan has no moon, Gertrude, ship was
crawling with crewmembers, Uhura speaking Swahili, an ancient planet,
good monster (that was later stuffed and put on display by Trelane.)
<<CHARLIE X: B+ [scary] >>>>>>>>>
But sad as well, with the "I want to stay...stay ...stay........" plea
at the end. The no-face girl was freaky. Uhura sings for the first
time. Lt Leslie smiles! Rand in her nightie. Kirk's "There's a millions
things you can have and can't have" speech. B+
<<WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE: B+ [perennially underrated]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
One of the best. Grade A. Great dialogue throughout. Spock telling Kirk
"Kill him why u can". Kirk telling Spock to get the hell out. Great
guest spots from Lockwood and Kellerman.
<<THE NAKED TIME: B+ [Strangely moving.]>>>>>>>>
A-..... One of Scotty's great moments..."He's turned the engines off
cold!"
<<THE ENEMY WITHIN: A- (Count me among the few who like it when Shatner
chews up scenery) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A bit too much chewing for me.....plus Lt Leslie almost freezes to
death. B-
<<MUDD'S WOMEN: C [If Dr.Phil and some NBC staff hack wrote a Star Trek
episode. Good Finnerman close-up photography, at least (as
always).>>>>>
I like it. Love the music. Harry Mudd is one of the great Star Trek
characters (later ruined in "I, Mudd") A little unrealistic how Eve
makes the transformation at the end without the Venus drug however. I
like all the bridge scenes where they keep losing power, good tension,
even though the whole thing about not having back-up dilithium crystals
is a bit of a stretch. (Tho they maintained that conceit in Elaan of
Troyius) Solid B
<<WHAT ARE LITTLE GIRLS MADE OF?: B [Hot babe. And now we know where
James Cameron ripped off the idea of Terminator's phone-call
mimickry.]>>>>>>>>>>
This one always holds up for me. Somewhat creepy episode. Continues in
the "Space is a lonely place" theme established in previous eps. Sherry
Jackson has no bearing on why I like this episode. Okay, that's a lie.
An A- for me.
<<MIRI: B+ [Always underrated. Good touch to make the children's taunts
echo throughout the streets. Kirk should not have to face later
Starfleet investigation for his conduct during this episode - the girl
is over 300 years old!]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Anthing with children in it ruins an episode for me (See "And the
CHildren Shall Lead") The whole Red Herring at the beginning of the ep
was lame, like they needed a good opening tease. And no I'm not talking
about Kim Darby. This one rates a C.
<<<DAGGER OF THE MIND: B+ [couldn't they have thought of something more
imaginative than the old "through the air vent" trick?]>>>>>>>>>
Yes the air vent is a cliche, but we get to see Helen crawl through it
so it can't be that bad. A lot to like for me; first mind meld, hot
psychiatrist, neural neutralizer (seemingly later revived in "Whom Gods
Destroy") crazy Simon Van Gelder exposing the weak bridge security. B+
for me.
<<<THE CORBOMITE MANUEVER: B+ [Kirk, please banish Bones from the
bridge -
permanently. Or at least earn the gratitude or your bridge officers and
rip his head off. And how much money did it take for Bailey's dad to
successfully bribe Starfleet Academy's admission's
committee?]>>>>>>>>>>
Shows Kirk at his best. Good tension throughout. B+
<<THE MENAGERIE: A- [Final shot of Kirk's face, lit in wonder, is one
of
the all-time classic TOS moments.]>>>>>>>>>>>>
Good use of the original pilot, even if Spock's actions were a bit over
the top. Got to see a Starbase for the first time. Malachi Throne. A-
<<THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]>>>>>>>
Kodos the Executioner, great piece of Trek lore. Crazy but beautiful
daughter. Love the opener, like the scenes of life on a Federation
planet, love how Kirk calls in a favor to the Transport captain, Uhura
sings again. and yeah, the observation deck. B+
<<THE BALANCE OF TERROR: A- [A toughie. A real toughie. Just a bit more
sense of danger facing the Enterprise towards the climax would have
given this one the A it really deserves.]>>>>>>>
The best. A+. Nothing to dislike. Introduces the Romulans. Best ending
in Trek episode history (save maybe City on the Edge), Kirk consoling
the Bride to be, then walking down the hallway, life on a Starship goes
on.
<<SHORE LEAVE: B [Simply meant to be a fun episode, like
"Tribbles".]>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A fun episode, Barrows was a babe. Gives a little history on Kirk.
Great music. Solid B.
<<<THE GALILEO SEVEN: A- [What great direction. What amazing anger and
bitterness between Spock and the rest of the marooned crew. What a
wasted opportunity for Spock to sock a knuckle-sandwich into Bones'
hissing face without Kirk being around.]>>>>>>>>>>>
Kind of a "Lifeboat" episode. Spock never really has to make a decision
of who to leave behind however, since enuff crewmembers die to make the
decision moot. Kirk should have pummeled that jerk who kept showing up
on the bridge. B-
<<<<THE SQUIRE OF GOTHOS: B+ [Underrated. The guy who played the Squire
really stole the show. Are he and his parents Thasians?>>>>>>>>>>
This one doesnt hold up well. On repeat viewings, Trelane is just
annoying. I kinda like the set however. C+
<<ARENA: B [I have a soft spot for this one. Tell the yahoos who
protest
the "cheap, rubber suit" to chew on an uninflated tire>>>>>>>>>>>>
Introduces another new species, one which doesn have ridges on their
forehead (which is about as original as B&B got) Good yarn. B
<<<<<<TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY: B+ [I like Kirk's comments about the 1967
computer tapes being "antiques".]>>>>>>>>>>>>
Solution is cockeyed. B-
<<<<<<<COURT MARTIAL: B [It was never clear if Finney's daughter was in
on the
plot] >>>>>>>>>>>>
The whole "heartbeat" thing was silly. And if you think about it,
Samuel T Cogley isnt that great of a lawyer, Kirk was going to lose if
Spock hadn't come in with new evidence at the last minute. I did like
the bar scene where Kirk bumped into Areel Shaw, and Kirk's
confrontation with Comm Stone was a great Kirk moment. B
<<<<THE RETURN OF THE ARCHONS: B [The great "blown" episode. Everything
up
to the climax had "A-" written all over it. Great atomosphere. Spooky.
Lots of cool things going on at once. Even cool 1880's duds that the
Enterprise landing party is wearing. And then comes the cliched climax
where Kirk talks the computer into self-destructing. Good grief.
Roddenberry had a way of sometimes shooting his own episodes in the
foot.]>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Always liked this one. Surprised some of the images got by the sensors.
B+
<<<<SPACE SEED: A- [There's that incompetent admissions staff at
Starfleet
Academy, again! Only 1 out-of-every 50,000 applicants are admitted, and
they send acceptance letters to both McGivers and Bailey.]>>>>>>>>>>
A bonafide classic. One of the great villians in TV history. A+
<<<<<<<<<A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON: B+ [the dialogue between Kirk and Spock
really
begins to gel starting with this episode]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Solid. Very prophetic episdoe. B+
<<<<<<<<<<THIS SIDE OF PARADISE: C [Remarkable scenes of Kirk alone on
the bridge
and, later, goading Spock with the most unbelievable insults
imaginable, can't save us from a by-the-numbers plot and an agonizingly
painful tender scene between Spock and Jill Ireland]>>>>>>>>>>>
Great music, dialogue, right on the money about the scene where Kirk
tells Spock he belongs "in the circus, right next to the dog-faced
boy." A-
<<<<<<<THE DEVIL IN THE DARK: A- [Yeah, it ends a little too neatly and
optimistically. But "...the pain...the murder..." is too good to be
missed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Like the atmoshere and set design. Good creature. Great opening teaser.
A-
<<<<<<ERRAND OF MERCY: A- [Excellent.] >>>>>>>
Introduces the klingons. Great menacing performance from Baltar
himself, John Colicos. B+
<<<<<<<<<THE ALTERNATIVE FACTOR: C+ [Bad as it is, it's not the worst
episode of
season one. And with some major tweaking, had the potential to be a 'B'
episode] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
C-.... had potential, but the script had too many holes.
<<<<<<<THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER: A+ [no terse comment
necessary]>>>>>>>>
A+
<<<<<OPERATION ANNIHILATE!: B+ [I haven't watched this in a long time;
it
might deserve an A-]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Decent creature feature, despite the whole "Vulcan inner eyelid" thing
saving Spock's sight. B+
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #160023 ] |
Mi, 02 November 2005 04:40 |
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Led4Aces wrote:
> <<THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
> obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
> writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
>
> stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]>>>>>>>
>
> Kodos the Executioner, great piece of Trek lore. Crazy but beautiful
> daughter. Love the opener, like the scenes of life on a Federation
> planet, love how Kirk calls in a favor to the Transport captain, Uhura
> sings again. and yeah, the observation deck. B+
>
>
What bothered me about "Conscience of a King" was that it hardly seemed
like science fiction; it could have been a plot for any type of show.
It was never explained why Kirk acts like a complete jerk and refuses
to tell Spock and Bones what's wrong with him. And is McCoy really that
dumb not to see that Riley was poisoned? (Is it everyday that some
poison ends up in the crew's food?)
Shnaggletooth
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| Re: Terse letter grades for TOS, season 1 [message #160033 ] |
Mi, 02 November 2005 13:35 |
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in article 1130902827.546267.224370 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com,
shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com at shnaggletooth [at] yahoo.com wrote on 11/1/05 8:40 PM:
>
> Led4Aces wrote:
>
>> <<THE CONSCIENCE OF A KING: D+ [What do people see in this piece of
>> obvious filler? Roddenberry should have called up his science-fiction
>> writer buds if he was struggling against time constraints and clueless,
>>
>> stingy, NBC cigar-smoking execs]>>>>>>>
>>
>> Kodos the Executioner, great piece of Trek lore. Crazy but beautiful
>> daughter. Love the opener, like the scenes of life on a Federation
>> planet, love how Kirk calls in a favor to the Transport captain, Uhura
>> sings again. and yeah, the observation deck. B+
>>
>>
>
> What bothered me about "Conscience of a King" was that it hardly seemed
> like science fiction; it could have been a plot for any type of show.
It would have been awesome on The Dick Van Dyke Show.
> It was never explained why Kirk acts like a complete jerk and refuses
> to tell Spock and Bones what's wrong with him. And is McCoy really that
> dumb not to see that Riley was poisoned? (Is it everyday that some
> poison ends up in the crew's food?)
How do you figure out McCoy doesn't see Riley was poisoned?
>
> Shnaggletooth
>
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