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Review of Eragon (do not read if you have not read the book. CONTAINS SPOILERS) [message #145840] Mi, 05 Oktober 2005 04:37
Helios  
Ok I finished Eragon.

The book was amazing. I did detect some LOTR stuff here and there, but
otherwise it was great. Eragon (who is close to my age) had it rough,
he was a farm boy who by the end of the book is transformed into a
rider.

The respect he got in the Varden city (forgot it's name) was kinda like
the praise Neo got in The Matrix Reloaded when he arrived at Zion.

Saphira is awesome, she's very sweet but sometimes is kinda mean, like
hwen Eragon tried to climb a cliff and got stuck, she blasted him for
finding the ONLY dead end on the cliff. But she's still a sweet girl.

The book was great and I hope to read "Eldest" soon.

And the movie version of Eragon comes out next year. Jeremy Irons plays
Brom
Re: Review of Eragon [message #145845 ] Mi, 05 Oktober 2005 17:31
Draco18s  
In article <1128479824.833774.192360 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
HeliosPhoenix [at] gmail.com says...
> Ok I finished Eragon.

Good book. Yes, LotR influence, but remember that he was 15 when he wrote
it.

> The book was great and I hope to read "Eldest" soon.

I've read it (and have a signed copy). Very good.

> And the movie version of Eragon comes out next year. Jeremy Irons plays
> Brom

and Eragon is played by Edward Speleers.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449010/
*Takes a look at what the actors have done before*
Scar (Lion King) is Brom?!? Now that's weird, but so right...
John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, although the pic they have on IMDB doesn't
look like Galbatorix to me...
Arya is played by Sienna Guillory (Jill Valentine, Resident Evil:
Apocalypse), good choice IMO.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #146095 ] Sa, 08 Oktober 2005 01:14
Arcaton  
Draco18s <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128526315.6b3dfb0d1290fbe4287f5258c1d44135 [at] teranews...
> In article <1128479824.833774.192360 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> HeliosPhoenix [at] gmail.com says...
> > Ok I finished Eragon.
>
> Good book. Yes, LotR influence, but remember that he was 15 when he wrote
> it.
>
> > The book was great and I hope to read "Eldest" soon.
>
> I've read it (and have a signed copy). Very good.
>
> > And the movie version of Eragon comes out next year. Jeremy Irons plays
> > Brom
>

Just bought the book in Asda (£5!)

I thought JI was good in the original Dungeons and Dragons movie....

Arcaton
yes I like Todd Slaughter movies...

> and Eragon is played by Edward Speleers.
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449010/
> *Takes a look at what the actors have done before*
> Scar (Lion King) is Brom?!? Now that's weird, but so right...
> John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, although the pic they have on IMDB
doesn't
> look like Galbatorix to me...
> Arya is played by Sienna Guillory (Jill Valentine, Resident Evil:
> Apocalypse), good choice IMO.
>
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Re: Review of Eragon [message #147847 ] Mo, 10 Oktober 2005 23:10
Kark  
"Draco18s" <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1128526315.6b3dfb0d1290fbe4287f5258c1d44135 [at] teranews...
> In article <1128479824.833774.192360 [at] g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> HeliosPhoenix [at] gmail.com says...

> > The book was great and I hope to read "Eldest" soon.
>
> I've read it (and have a signed copy). Very good.

Bought Eragon in July... read through that in August... And now, I'm going
through Eldest... Not sure when the 3rd book's gonna come out... Not before
I'm done with Eldest, that's for sure...

>
> > And the movie version of Eragon comes out next year. Jeremy Irons plays
> > Brom
>
> and Eragon is played by Edward Speleers.
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449010/
> *Takes a look at what the actors have done before*
> Scar (Lion King) is Brom?!? Now that's weird, but so right...

Funny... I would've thought someone like Sir Ian Kellar or Richard Harris
would play the part of Brom...

> John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, although the pic they have on IMDB
doesn't
> look like Galbatorix to me...

Jeremy Irons would be better suited as Galbatorix, IMO...

> Arya is played by Sienna Guillory (Jill Valentine, Resident Evil:
> Apocalypse), good choice IMO.

I pictured Arya being played by the Actress who played that Vulcan woman
T'Pal on Star Trek: Enterprise...

That kid who played Harry Potter would make a great Eragon(they're about the
same age, are they?)

I see Avery Brooks(Captain Sisko from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) as
Ajihad... And Alexander Siddig(Dr. Bashir of the same show...) playing his
second in command... don't remember his name, though...


Can't wait for the movie, though. {:8)

(Hi, BTW...)

>
> --
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Younger wingsibling of Briemh, Digi and Marayong...

"I wish that I could really tell you
All the things that happened to me, and all that I have seen.
A world full of people, their hearts without joy.
Cities of light with no fear of war,
And thousands of creatures with happier lives
And dreams of a future with meaning and no need to lie.
No need to hate... No need to hide... Keep it dark."
- Genesis "Keep It Dark"

"Is it true I can spread my wings?
Flying high, high; like a bird in the sky
Like an eagle that rides on the breeze
High... high! What a feeling to fly!
Over mountains, and forests, and seas...
And to go anywhere that I please...."
- Abba "Eagle"

"You can ride the wind...
But don't you ride it too high..."
-The Guess Who "Hang On To Your Life"
Re: Review of Eragon [message #147865 ] Mi, 12 Oktober 2005 04:05
Draco18s  
In article <5NA2f.107053$Ph4.3257039 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
kark [at] nbnet.nb.ca says...

> > and Eragon is played by Edward Speleers.
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449010/
> > *Takes a look at what the actors have done before*
> > Scar (Lion King) is Brom?!? Now that's weird, but so right...
>
> Funny... I would've thought someone like Sir Ian Kellar or Richard Harris
> would play the part of Brom...
>
> > John Malkovich plays Galbatorix, although the pic they have on IMDB
> doesn't
> > look like Galbatorix to me...
>
> Jeremy Irons would be better suited as Galbatorix, IMO...

Yeah, probably.

> > Arya is played by Sienna Guillory (Jill Valentine, Resident Evil:
> > Apocalypse), good choice IMO.
>
> I pictured Arya being played by the Actress who played that Vulcan woman
> T'Pal on Star Trek: Enterprise...
>
> That kid who played Harry Potter would make a great Eragon(they're about the
> same age, are they?)

Nah, I don't see Harry as Eragon. They are about the same age, but do also
keep in mind Harry has his own movies to make right now.

> I see Avery Brooks(Captain Sisko from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) as
> Ajihad... And Alexander Siddig(Dr. Bashir of the same show...) playing his
> second in command... don't remember his name, though...
>
>
> Can't wait for the movie, though. {:8)

Neither can I.

> (Hi, BTW...)

(Hello)

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #147892 ] Fr, 14 Oktober 2005 01:01
Kark  
>
> (Hello)
>

So what's new in la la land? {;8)

Kark
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Elder wingsibling to Shade Christiwolfen
(formerly known as Gaframor the Protector...)

Younger wingsibling of Briemh, Digi and Marayong...

"I wish that I could really tell you
All the things that happened to me, and all that I have seen.
A world full of people, their hearts without joy.
Cities of light with no fear of war,
And thousands of creatures with happier lives
And dreams of a future with meaning and no need to lie.
No need to hate... No need to hide... Keep it dark."
- Genesis "Keep It Dark"

"Is it true I can spread my wings?
Flying high, high; like a bird in the sky
Like an eagle that rides on the breeze
High... high! What a feeling to fly!
Over mountains, and forests, and seas...
And to go anywhere that I please...."
- Abba "Eagle"

"You can ride the wind...
But don't you ride it too high..."
-The Guess Who "Hang On To Your Life"


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> In article <5NA2f.107053$Ph4.3257039 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
> kark [at] nbnet.nb.ca says...
Re: Review of Eragon [message #147893 ] Fr, 14 Oktober 2005 02:26
Draco18s  
In article <xHB3f.108442$Ph4.3302837 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
kark [at] nbnet.nb.ca says...
> >
> > (Hello)
> >
>
> So what's new in la la land? {;8)

La la land?
New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the acts of
some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me reading is
the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times of war and 2) the
ones doing it are insane.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150545 ] Sa, 15 Oktober 2005 20:51
Pyros Rutilicus  
At Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:26:18 GMT, Draco18s
<draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> hissed:

> New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the
> acts of some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me
> reading is the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times
> of war and 2) the ones doing it are insane.

Dragoncharm was something of a hard read for me. It was good, but I
tended to get into it too much. I started reading Dragonstorm (after
searching for it for several months and obtaining it at not-insignificant
cost from the other side of the world), but stopped halfway through for
the same reason--when you empathize with the characters too much, it's
very hard when bad things start to happen. ]:-8( I will likely pick it
up again, but I need to be ready for it when I do.

Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
from me....

Back on the subject of Eragon, I have not read it. I googled a few
reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
"Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
books quite a bit faster than I read them.)

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Scales protect many times better than flesh, but ironically, as long as
I wear this flesh I am safe, whereas if I were to show my true self I
would be vulnerable...
"Thoughts of [an annoying human] still make my teeth itch."
--D. J. Heinrich, The Dragon's Tomb
Re: Review of Eragon [message #150549 ] So, 16 Oktober 2005 05:48
Draco18s  
In article <Xns96F0788DC2376pyrosrutilicushotmai [at] 207.115.17.102>,
pyrosrutilicusNO [at] gmailSPAM.comORIWILLEATYOU says...
> At Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:26:18 GMT, Draco18s
> <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> hissed:
>
> > New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the
> > acts of some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me
> > reading is the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times
> > of war and 2) the ones doing it are insane.
>
> Dragoncharm was something of a hard read for me. It was good, but I
> tended to get into it too much. I started reading Dragonstorm (after
> searching for it for several months and obtaining it at not-insignificant
> cost from the other side of the world), but stopped halfway through for
> the same reason--when you empathize with the characters too much, it's
> very hard when bad things start to happen. ]:-8( I will likely pick it
> up again, but I need to be ready for it when I do.
>
> Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
> from me....

I'm about a third of the way into Dragonstorm, and yes, while it does evoke
strong emotions when "bad stuff happens" I've managed well enough. It isn't
so much what happens to the characters that I care about, but what they *DO*
that horrifies me so much (dragons turned into solid ice is a good example).

> Back on the subject of Eragon, I have not read it. I googled a few
> reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
> "Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
> still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
> read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
> it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
> unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
> of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
> books quite a bit faster than I read them.)

That review summery is fairly accurate, but the second book (Eldest) is much
better in that respect--less feelings of underage authorship. But they are
still excellent reads, IMO.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150555 ] So, 16 Oktober 2005 15:19
Zarris  
Pyros Rutilicus wrote:
> At Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:26:18 GMT, Draco18s
> <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> hissed:
>
> > New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the
> > acts of some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me
> > reading is the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times
> > of war and 2) the ones doing it are insane.
>
> Dragoncharm was something of a hard read for me. It was good, but I
> tended to get into it too much. I started reading Dragonstorm (after
> searching for it for several months and obtaining it at not-insignificant
> cost from the other side of the world), but stopped halfway through for
> the same reason--when you empathize with the characters too much, it's
> very hard when bad things start to happen. ]:-8( I will likely pick it
> up again, but I need to be ready for it when I do.
>
> Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
> from me....

I probably lost a good bit of my sanity when reading that series.
though iof your having problems getting through Dragonstorm,, probably
wouldnt be the best thing for yourself to try to read Dragonflame then.

>
> Back on the subject of Eragon, I have not read it. I googled a few
> reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
> "Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
> still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
> read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
> it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
> unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
> of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
> books quite a bit faster than I read them.)

cant get anyworse than some books that i own,, but im waiting for it to
come out in the cheaper paperback, just incase (and so that ittl fit on
my bookshelf).

>
> --
> Pyros Rutilicus

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150558 ] So, 16 Oktober 2005 18:44
Kark  
> I have not read it. I googled a few
> reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
> "Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
> still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
> read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
> it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
> unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
> of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
> books quite a bit faster than I read them.)

It reminds me a lot of Lord Of The Rings... But it's mainly a story about a
kid who had to grow up fast after learning his destiny... If you like those
kinds of stories, as well as having a thing for dragons, you should add it
to your list of books to read...

Kark
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Elder wingsibling to Shade Christiwolfen
(formerly known as Gaframor the Protector...)

Younger wingsibling of Briemh, Digi and Marayong...

"I wish that I could really tell you
All the things that happened to me, and all that I have seen.
A world full of people, their hearts without joy.
Cities of light with no fear of war,
And thousands of creatures with happier lives
And dreams of a future with meaning and no need to lie.
No need to hate... No need to hide... Keep it dark."
- Genesis "Keep It Dark"

"Is it true I can spread my wings?
Flying high, high; like a bird in the sky
Like an eagle that rides on the breeze
High... high! What a feeling to fly!
Over mountains, and forests, and seas...
And to go anywhere that I please...."
- Abba "Eagle"

"You can ride the wind...
But don't you ride it too high..."
-The Guess Who "Hang On To Your Life"


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> I wear this flesh I am safe, whereas if I were to show my true self I
> would be vulnerable...
> "Thoughts of [an annoying human] still make my teeth itch."
> --D. J. Heinrich, The Dragon's Tomb
Re: Review of Eragon [message #150559 ] So, 16 Oktober 2005 18:44
Kark  
> I'm about a third of the way into Dragonstorm, and yes, while it does
evoke
> strong emotions when "bad stuff happens" I've managed well enough. It
isn't
> so much what happens to the characters that I care about, but what they
*DO*
> that horrifies me so much (dragons turned into solid ice is a good
example).

The same thing happened in that "Fire & Ice" movie... {:8)

> > Back on the subject of Eragon, I have not read it. I googled a few
> > reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
> > "Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
> > still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
> > read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
> > it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
> > unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
> > of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
> > books quite a bit faster than I read them.)
>
> That review summery is fairly accurate, but the second book (Eldest) is
much
> better in that respect--less feelings of underage authorship. But they
are
> still excellent reads, IMO.

I don't know if you do this when you read books: You start to picture
various actors in the roles you read... I'm about half way through Eldest,
and I'm picturing Mark Lenard- the actor played Sarek, Spock's father, in
the Star Trek movies- as Eragon's elf Rider trainer... And I did notice the
same "logical" parallel as the Vulcans... only they seem to show more
emotions... The elves, that is...

I also see the actress who played T'Paul in Star Trek: Enterprise as Arya...
(in case I haven't mentioned that before...)

Kark
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Email: kark [at] nbnet.nb.ca ICQ: 121780498

Elder wingsibling to Shade Christiwolfen
(formerly known as Gaframor the Protector...)

Younger wingsibling of Briemh, Digi and Marayong...

"I wish that I could really tell you
All the things that happened to me, and all that I have seen.
A world full of people, their hearts without joy.
Cities of light with no fear of war,
And thousands of creatures with happier lives
And dreams of a future with meaning and no need to lie.
No need to hate... No need to hide... Keep it dark."
- Genesis "Keep It Dark"

"Is it true I can spread my wings?
Flying high, high; like a bird in the sky
Like an eagle that rides on the breeze
High... high! What a feeling to fly!
Over mountains, and forests, and seas...
And to go anywhere that I please...."
- Abba "Eagle"

"You can ride the wind...
But don't you ride it too high..."
-The Guess Who "Hang On To Your Life"


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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150563 ] So, 16 Oktober 2005 20:36
Lord Flame Stryke  
On 16 Oct 2005, Kark was found to have scratched
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> I don't know if you do this when you read books: You start to picture
> various actors in the roles you read... I'm about half way through
> Eldest, and I'm picturing Mark Lenard- the actor played Sarek, Spock's
> father, in the Star Trek movies- as Eragon's elf Rider trainer... And
> I did notice the same "logical" parallel as the Vulcans... only they
> seem to show more emotions... The elves, that is...

I did that with the description of Prince Kheldar in David Eddings'
Belgariad series, with Xilas (the head of the Thieves' Guild in Dungeons
& Dragons). I don't know who would be good for the others, but I do know
that's a perfect match.



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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150565 ] Mo, 17 Oktober 2005 02:19
Draco18s  
In article <%rv4f.109617$Ph4.3344036 [at] ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>,
kark [at] nbnet.nb.ca says...
> > I'm about a third of the way into Dragonstorm, and yes, while it does
> evoke
> > strong emotions when "bad stuff happens" I've managed well enough. It
> isn't
> > so much what happens to the characters that I care about, but what they
> *DO*
> > that horrifies me so much (dragons turned into solid ice is a good
> example).
>
> The same thing happened in that "Fire & Ice" movie... {:8)

Never saw that.
Another dragon had it's limbs chewed off, others got quartered by charm by
the dozens...some just got turned into molecular dust....

> > > Back on the subject of Eragon, I have not read it. I googled a few
> > > reviews, and they seem to be mixed--about the best summary I can make is
> > > "Pretty impressive for something written by a teenager...but you can
> > > still sort of tell it was written by a teenager." For those who have
> > > read it, is this an accurate assessment? And should I go out and read
> > > it? (I may do so out of principle anyway--can't leave a dragon book
> > > unread, you know--but I have many others to get to as well...the number
> > > of unread books in my hoard is always increasing, since I tend to buy
> > > books quite a bit faster than I read them.)
> >
> > That review summery is fairly accurate, but the second book (Eldest) is
> much
> > better in that respect--less feelings of underage authorship. But they
> are
> > still excellent reads, IMO.
>
> I don't know if you do this when you read books: You start to picture
> various actors in the roles you read...

Nope. I can tell you who Robbin Williams is, and maybe...um...*blinks.*
Yeah. That's the limit of "actor/actress knowledge."

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150566 ] Mo, 17 Oktober 2005 02:20
Draco18s  
In article <1129468742.640635.119840 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...

> > Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
> > from me....
>
> I probably lost a good bit of my sanity when reading that series.
> though iof your having problems getting through Dragonstorm,, probably
> wouldnt be the best thing for yourself to try to read Dragonflame then.

I'll keep that in mind, but I think I'll be alright.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150653 ] Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 05:30
Draco18s  
In article <1129468742.640635.119840 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
>
> Pyros Rutilicus wrote:
> > At Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:26:18 GMT, Draco18s
> > <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> hissed:
> >
> > > New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the
> > > acts of some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me
> > > reading is the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times
> > > of war and 2) the ones doing it are insane.
> >
> > Dragoncharm was something of a hard read for me. It was good, but I
> > tended to get into it too much. I started reading Dragonstorm (after
> > searching for it for several months and obtaining it at not-insignificant
> > cost from the other side of the world), but stopped halfway through for
> > the same reason--when you empathize with the characters too much, it's
> > very hard when bad things start to happen. ]:-8( I will likely pick it
> > up again, but I need to be ready for it when I do.
> >
> > Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
> > from me....
>
> I probably lost a good bit of my sanity when reading that series.
> though iof your having problems getting through Dragonstorm,, probably
> wouldnt be the best thing for yourself to try to read Dragonflame then.

Into Dragonflame now.
And without spoiling anything I can say that the first words that jumped out
at me were "harem" and "concubine."
Ooooh yeah, this is going to be *DARK*

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150654 ] Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 05:31
Draco18s  
In article <1129468742.640635.119840 [at] g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
WaterfallFinder [at] aol.com says...
>
> Pyros Rutilicus wrote:
> > At Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:26:18 GMT, Draco18s
> > <draco18s_DOES_NOT [at] LIKE_SPAM_hotmail.com> hissed:
> >
> > > New in general is that I'm reading Dragoncharm. And I must say, the
> > > acts of some of the dragons are just awful. The only thing keeping me
> > > reading is the knowledge that 1) humans have done no better in times
> > > of war and 2) the ones doing it are insane.
> >
> > Dragoncharm was something of a hard read for me. It was good, but I
> > tended to get into it too much. I started reading Dragonstorm (after
> > searching for it for several months and obtaining it at not-insignificant
> > cost from the other side of the world), but stopped halfway through for
> > the same reason--when you empathize with the characters too much, it's
> > very hard when bad things start to happen. ]:-8( I will likely pick it
> > up again, but I need to be ready for it when I do.
> >
> > Oddly enough, Edwards' books have been the only ones to get this reaction
> > from me....
>
> I probably lost a good bit of my sanity when reading that series.
> though iof your having problems getting through Dragonstorm,, probably
> wouldnt be the best thing for yourself to try to read Dragonflame then.

Into Dragonflame now.
And without spoiling anything I can say that the first words that jumped out
at me were "harem" and "concubine."
Ooooh yeah, this is going to be *DARK*

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150665 ] Sa, 22 Oktober 2005 20:09
Brinon  
> Into Dragonflame now.
> And without spoiling anything I can say that the first words that jumped
> out
> at me were "harem" and "concubine."
> Ooooh yeah, this is going to be *DARK*
I read the triology too! If you want my advice, (if not stop reading!!!)
only DragonCharm really worthed it! But it was somewhat fun anyway =) And I
was disappointed by the end, wich I won't tell you, because I want to live!
^_^

Brinon

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150671 ] So, 23 Oktober 2005 04:49
Draco18s  
In article <Nfv6f.36312$HE6.501132 [at] wagner.videotron.net>,
cait_sithxANTIsPAM [at] hotmail.com says...
>
> > Into Dragonflame now.
> > And without spoiling anything I can say that the first words that jumped
> > out
> > at me were "harem" and "concubine."
> > Ooooh yeah, this is going to be *DARK*
> I read the triology too! If you want my advice, (if not stop reading!!!)
> only DragonCharm really worthed it! But it was somewhat fun anyway =) And I
> was disappointed by the end, wich I won't tell you, because I want to live!
> ^_^

Mm...perhaps only the first one is "worth reading." But I want to read the
whole series, I know it's dark (at one point having stopped counting
"deaths" and started counting "still alive")) but I'll be damned if I stop
reading.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150675 ] So, 23 Oktober 2005 06:21
Marrock  
Draco18s wrote:

> In article <Nfv6f.36312$HE6.501132 [at] wagner.videotron.net>,
> cait_sithxANTIsPAM [at] hotmail.com says...
>
>>>Into Dragonflame now.
>>>And without spoiling anything I can say that the first words that jumped
>>>out
>>>at me were "harem" and "concubine."
>>>Ooooh yeah, this is going to be *DARK*
>>
>>I read the triology too! If you want my advice, (if not stop reading!!!)
>>only DragonCharm really worthed it! But it was somewhat fun anyway =) And I
>>was disappointed by the end, wich I won't tell you, because I want to live!
>>^_^
>
>
> Mm...perhaps only the first one is "worth reading." But I want to read the
> whole series, I know it's dark (at one point having stopped counting
> "deaths" and started counting "still alive")) but I'll be damned if I stop
> reading.
>

I made it through the first and most of the way through the second
before just putting the book down and walking away... had to before the
urge to shred them became too strong, and not because they were bad...
just the opposite, it was just too frustrating that I couldn't reach in
and throttle those that so richly deserved it in the story.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #150702 ] Mo, 24 Oktober 2005 00:36
Pyros Rutilicus  
At Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:21:03 GMT, Marrock <MarrockVolsung [at] optonline.net>
hissed:

<chomp>
> I made it through the first and most of the way through the second
> before just putting the book down and walking away... had to before
> the urge to shred them became too strong, and not because they were
> bad... just the opposite, it was just too frustrating that I couldn't
> reach in and throttle those that so richly deserved it in the story.

Exactly my reaction. As I said, Dragonstorm is on hold for me right now
part-way through--I might come back to it, but for now I'm reading other
stuff, because it seems I care too much about the characters in
Dragonstorm...

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #156316 ] Do, 27 Oktober 2005 22:22
Draco18s  
In article <Xns96F89ED60B350pyrosrutilicushotmai [at] 207.115.17.102>,
pyrosrutilicusNO [at] gmailSPAM.comORIWILLEATYOU says...
> At Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:21:03 GMT, Marrock <MarrockVolsung [at] optonline.net>
> hissed:
>
> <chomp>
> > I made it through the first and most of the way through the second
> > before just putting the book down and walking away... had to before
> > the urge to shred them became too strong, and not because they were
> > bad... just the opposite, it was just too frustrating that I couldn't
> > reach in and throttle those that so richly deserved it in the story.
>
> Exactly my reaction. As I said, Dragonstorm is on hold for me right now
> part-way through--I might come back to it, but for now I'm reading other
> stuff, because it seems I care too much about the characters in
> Dragonstorm...

Who do you want dead? I'm sure they get it in the end.
Even Ocher, although, what he gets both is and isn't what he wants.
BTW, if you like Tallow any don't read the third book.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #156331 ] Fr, 28 Oktober 2005 04:37
Brinon  
> Who do you want dead? I'm sure they get it in the end.
> Even Ocher, although, what he gets both is and isn't what he wants.
> BTW, if you like Tallow any don't read the third book.

Yeah! Yeah! I'm Tallow's fan!!!
Re: Review of Eragon [message #158702 ] Sa, 29 Oktober 2005 23:01
Draco18s  
In article <s9g8f.5031$ST1.159901 [at] wagner.videotron.net>,
cait_sithxANTIsPAM [at] hotmail.com says...
> > Who do you want dead? I'm sure they get it in the end.
> > Even Ocher, although, what he gets both is and isn't what he wants.
> > BTW, if you like Tallow any don't read the third book.
>
> Yeah! Yeah! I'm Tallow's fan!!!

Then stay away from Dragonflame. Far far away.

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Re: Review of Eragon [message #160323 ] Mo, 31 Oktober 2005 03:16
Brinon  
>> > BTW, if you like Tallow any don't read the third book.
>>
>> Yeah! Yeah! I'm Tallow's fan!!!
>
> Then stay away from Dragonflame. Far far away.

Too late! Already read, and I'm now sad. :(
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