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| Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again [message #141341] |
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"Mike Keith" <nothing [at] noone.net> wrote in message news:dMmdnfYB_8TfhqHeRVn-sw [at] comcast.com...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.scifi.channel,rec.arts.sf.tv ,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.movies
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:22 AM
> Subject: Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again
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>> Every time I see these weird allegations of psychiatric problems here an alarm bell has gone off with me. That is, there is more
>> to this than meets the eye.
>> Then, when the whole Tom Cruise Brooke Shields issue came to light it clicked.
>> Public relations firms are selling pharmaceuticals now in a variety of covert ways and one of those ways is in Hollywood movies
>> and through Hollywood celebrities. And of course, through there public relations hacks who work here on the Usenet Newsgroups.
>> Usually these personal attacks are accompanied with the allegation that the target should "take his meds", which this hack
>> [remembered] this time out..
> No, the allegations of you needing to "take your meds" is a common response
> among people who just want you to stop buzzing in there ears about your
> reality. You see, your reality seems to be a combination of psychosis
> (everyone is out to get you) and perhaps obseesive compulsive disorder (your
> need to continually state then restate your beliefs over and over again in
> this, and i am sure many other, newsgroups). Most people dont want to spend
> more than five seconds trying to swat a fly away, because if you give the
> fly too much attention you are in essence admitting it is bothering you.
> Consider the term "taking your meds" as the verbal equivalent of a fly swatter.
I do not know any respectable people who joke about drug usage in this way.
I simply do not believe that this is random behavior. Public relations hacks
who would sell their mouths to support Sodomy on TV in BSG on public forums like this
would no doubt not even blink when asked to add a pharmaceutical advertisement to their
con game on the readership here.
>> Dangerous pharmaceuticals like Paxil, which Brooke Shields was trying to sell to the public, claiming wild claims about
>> post-partum depression
>> (which somehow her baby survived).
>> Federal prosecutors, the Federal Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission need to investigate whether there is any
>> connection between crooked pharmaceutical companies like GlaxoSmithKline and public relations firms and whether any of them lead
>> to Hollywood.
> In the end, anything can be connected to anything if you try hard enough and
> use enough degrees of separation. A diseased human psyche cannot usually
> equate the "distance" of getting from point a to point b and assume that if
> a trail is there, guilt is absolute. This is what you seem to be doing.
Weak minds often do not recognize the predatory activity of smart Hollywood Homosexuals
and their band of public relations firm psychologists who are determined to con you into
accepting their product of the day.
>> We already know that the reference to drugs in the movie A Beautiful Mind was fraudulent.
>> The truth is that the man played by Russell Crowe was not cured with the help of pharmaceuticals, as alleged in that movie.
> The movie actually alleged the opposite of what you just claimed. The man in
> that movie cured himself in the end, the drugs were in fact a deterrent to
> him finally getting to that point. Your lack of understanding in the plot of
That is exactly what I stated about the movie "A Beautiful Mind".
They sold drugs with fraudulent hidden advertisement claims in that movie.
> the movie would tend to suggest that instead of watching it, you were in
> fact trying to fill in holes and look for more evidence that a sinister plot
> exists somewhere "out there" that is trying to corrupt the minds of America.
> Please try to remember one thing: people come here to discuss the workings
> of a tv show. Your conspiracy theories are of course going to be rediculed
> here, because in the scope of things this is a minor bit to another day in a
> normal newsgroup posters life. For you though it seems to be a major part of
> your inner demons being played out, another attempt at trying to prove you
> arent crazy if you can get people to believe you. If enough of your mind is
> left, perhaps you should reassess what you are trying to accomplish with
> these people and possibly take your rantings to a conspiracy forum of some
> sort. Just an idea. EIther way, good luck to you, and please for gods sake,
> get back on your meds.
Here is another public relations worker selling a hidden advertisement for a dangerous product,
while pretending to be your friend and pretending to chit chat.
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| Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again [message #141378 ] |
So, 02 Oktober 2005 14:42 |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to John Shocked:
>> No, the allegations of you needing to "take your meds" is a common
>> response among people who just want you to stop buzzing in there ears
>> about your reality. You see, your reality seems to be a combination of
>> psychosis (everyone is out to get you) and perhaps obseesive compulsive
>> disorder (your need to continually state then restate your beliefs over
>> and over again in this, and i am sure many other, newsgroups). Most
>> people dont want to spend more than five seconds trying to swat a fly
>> away, because if you give the fly too much attention you are in essence
>> admitting it is bothering you. Consider the term "taking your meds" as
>> the verbal equivalent of a fly swatter.
>
> I do not know any respectable people who joke about drug usage in this
> way.
You need to expand your social circle. OK, pardon me: You need to start your
social circle. And you need to take your meds.
--
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again [message #143659 ] |
Do, 06 Oktober 2005 08:16 |
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"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ý|<®åñ5ë9ô9 [at] \/\/òé|\/|.6®ó> wrote in message news:GAQ%e.43074$1i.41001 [at] pd7tw2no...
>I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
> Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to John Shocked:
>>> No, the allegations of you needing to "take your meds" is a common
>>> response among people who just want you to stop buzzing in there ears
>>> about your reality. You see, your reality seems to be a combination of
>>> psychosis (everyone is out to get you) and perhaps obseesive compulsive
>>> disorder (your need to continually state then restate your beliefs over
>>> and over again in this, and i am sure many other, newsgroups). Most
>>> people dont want to spend more than five seconds trying to swat a fly
>>> away, because if you give the fly too much attention you are in essence
>>> admitting it is bothering you. Consider the term "taking your meds" as
>>> the verbal equivalent of a fly swatter.
>> I do not know any respectable people who joke about drug usage in this way.
> You need to expand your social circle. OK, pardon me: You need to start your
> social circle. And you need to take your meds.
More Hollywood Homosexual right wing libertarian advertisements for dangerous drugs.
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Accounts of the movie I have read indicate that the Crowe professor character was described within the movie
as being cured by some newer medications in some of the dialogue. That dialogue was a false advertisement of
mind altering drugs. Advertisements hidden in movies for mind altering drugs like cigarettes is nothing new.
Congress needs to institute hearings on products being advertised in movies and then ban all of
these hidden advertisements.
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http://www.namiscc.org/newsletters/February02/JohnNashDrugFr eeRecovery.htm
In the movie, Nash -- just before he receives a Nobel Prize -- speaks of taking "newer medications."
The National Alliance for the Mentally Ill has praised the film's director, Ron Howard, for showing the
"vital role of medication" in Nash's recovery. But as Sylvia Nasar notes in her biography of Nash, on which
the movie is loosely based, this brilliant mathematician stopped taking antipsychotic drugs in 1970 and slowly
recovered over two decades. Nasar concluded that Nash's refusal to take drugs "may have been fortunate"
because their deleterious effects "would have made his gentle re-entry into the world of mathematics a near impossibility."
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Again, the symbolism in the BSG Sodomy scenes in Bastille Day and Colonial Day has only predated by the Oz HBO
prison Sodomy rape scenes. This Sodomy symbolism was the clear intent of the BSG Hollywood Homosexuals, who are
determined to sell Sodomy to you and your kids.
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The customer sees it as is the case with all subliminal visual stimuli, but does not notice the product
specifically as being specifically presented as an advertisement. It is just present in the picture. The full
quote from the document transcribed:
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http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=rnw85d00&f mt=gif&ref=results&title=ACTIVITY%20REPORT.&bate s=503579378/9381
"August 26, 1981
CONFIDENTIAL
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To: Laurence M.Wassong [vice-president William Esty Company
in New York, publicity man of R.J. Reynolds, concerning promotion activities
From: Warren Cowan [of Rogers and Cowan public relations firm]
Re: Activity Report
"We have been waiting for production to resume full-speed ahead in Hollywood for more than a year, and, now,
with the writers, actors and directors all working and not threaten- ing to strike, we are pleased to report
that Hollywood is back in the movie business.
With that in mind, we are making a concentrated effort to be very selective about the kinds of productions in
which we place the products. Our goal is "pleasant situations,"and we have evaluated many scripts which do not
meet our criteria for products. There are some films we have approached which we believe could be very
beneficial to our "subliminal" product campaign.
I. MOTION PICTURES
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A) Sharkey's Machine -- Burt Reynolds stars in this Orion Pictures contemporary action drama. As you can see
by the attached stills from the film (attachments 1-3), we arranged for Burt Reynolds to enjoy Camels
throughout the film. Sharkey's Machine will be distributed by Warner Brothers on December 18."
[...numerous other movies' product placements...] "
[later in same Activity Report...]
"We are also continuing our contacts with top photographers and providing them with product, so that when the
proper situation arises, our product can be included in photo sessions.
There are many other areas that we are exploring, as well. Due to the necessity of confidentiality of this
project, we are doing this very quietly, on a one-on-one basis. "
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Here is some more information on the types of psychologists who work at advertising companies like William Esty
Agency, and their interest in controlling the future behavior of your kids.
http://fates.cns.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/watson .htm
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[John B. Watson (1878 - 1958)]
After leaving Johns Hopkins University, Watson went into the advertising business . He wanted to use his
scientific theories of behaviorism and the emotions of fear, rage, and love to improve the effects of
advertising on the "animal" or what we know as consumers. Watson began his training at J Walter Thompson Agency
with Stanley B. Resor. He became an ambassador and in 1924 he stepped up to become vice president of the
company. While he was there he also wrote and sold books about the control over human emotions. Later he moved
onto work for William Esty Agency until he retired in 1945. In 1920 he published his most famous conditioning
experiment; the "Little Albert" study in which he produced, in a small child, conditioned fear of a white rat
by repeatedly presenting it paired with the loud "clanging" of a metal bar. This conditioned fear was then
shown to generalize to other white furry objects, including a Santa mask and Watson's own white hair (Watson &
Rayner, 1920). In another well-known article (Watson, 1920), he argued that thinking -- a mental activity that
seems to involve no overt behavior -- is nothing more than subvocal speaking. He later retracted this extreme
view, however (Watson & McDougall, 1929). Although Watson's academic star burned brightly, it was destined to
be short-lived. Like his predecessor, Baldwin, he was forced to resign his chair at Hopkins because of a sex
scandal involving his assistant, Rayner. He continued to publish books on psychology--Behaviorism (1924) and
The Psychological Care of Infant and Child (1928)--but by the 1930s his main career interest had shifted to the
advertising business, and he ended his scholarly pursuits.
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Cigarette companies have by far the biggest advertising budgets and thus can afford to hire the best
psychologists to sell Cigarettes to you and your kids.
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http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/20785-6.asp
Although cigarette commercials have been banned from television for 30 years, the tobacco industry remains the
country's largest advertiser. According to the American Lung Association, the tobacco industry spent an
estimated $5.7 billion on advertising in 1997, up 10.8% or $552 million from 1996. In 1982, when cigarette
sales peaked, the industry spent an estimated $1.8 billion for advertising. Cigarette sales dropped from 632.5
billion in 1982 to 478.6 billion in 1997. Tobacco company ads are everywhere
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| Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again [message #145074 ] |
Do, 06 Oktober 2005 14:00 |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
>>>> No, the allegations of you needing to "take your meds" is a common
>>>> response among people who just want you to stop buzzing in there ears
>>>> about your reality. You see, your reality seems to be a combination of
>>>> psychosis (everyone is out to get you) and perhaps obseesive compulsive
>>>> disorder (your need to continually state then restate your beliefs over
>>>> and over again in this, and i am sure many other, newsgroups). Most
>>>> people dont want to spend more than five seconds trying to swat a fly
>>>> away, because if you give the fly too much attention you are in essence
>>>> admitting it is bothering you. Consider the term "taking your meds" as
>>>> the verbal equivalent of a fly swatter.
>>> I do not know any respectable people who joke about drug usage in this
>>> way.
>> You need to expand your social circle. OK, pardon me: You need to start
>> your social circle. And you need to take your meds.
>
> More Hollywood Homosexual right wing libertarian advertisements for
> dangerous drugs.
No, I'm not a Hollywood type, I'm not gay (I'm bi), I'm not a right-winger,
and I don't post ads, nor do I get paid to post. I reply to you solely to
fuck with your head.
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
That means I'm a left-winger, economically, and a libertarian, socially.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Strictly speaking, they could add a third dimension, for
liberal-conservative, but there's no way to adequately represent it in this
medium (that doesn't involve animation effects and a lot more bandwidth
than is feasible for a site like that).
--
____________________________________________________________ _______________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| Re: BSG Sodomy deviant scene again [message #145112 ] |
Do, 06 Oktober 2005 17:06 |
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"The Secretary of HomInt3rn" <ý|<®åñ539ô9 [at] \/\/0é|\/|.6®0> wrote in message news:Xl81f.107875$tl2.1848 [at] pd7tw3no...
>I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
> Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
>>>>> No, the allegations of you needing to "take your meds" is a common
>>>>> response among people who just want you to stop buzzing in there ears
>>>>> about your reality. You see, your reality seems to be a combination of
>>>>> psychosis (everyone is out to get you) and perhaps obseesive compulsive
>>>>> disorder (your need to continually state then restate your beliefs over
>>>>> and over again in this, and i am sure many other, newsgroups). Most
>>>>> people dont want to spend more than five seconds trying to swat a fly
>>>>> away, because if you give the fly too much attention you are in essence
>>>>> admitting it is bothering you. Consider the term "taking your meds" as
>>>>> the verbal equivalent of a fly swatter.
>>>> I do not know any respectable people who joke about drug usage in this way.
>>> You need to expand your social circle. OK, pardon me: You need to start
>>> your social circle. And you need to take your meds.
>> More Hollywood Homosexual right wing libertarian advertisements for dangerous drugs.
> No, I'm not a Hollywood type, I'm not gay (I'm bi), I'm not a right-winger,
Since you bring it up, the fact is that anyone who engages in homosexual acts is a homosexual.
The fact that one also engages in normal sex periodically does not affect the deviant behavior classification.
> and I don't post ads, nor do I get paid to post. I reply to you solely to fuck with your head.
> Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
> That means I'm a left-winger, economically, and a libertarian, socially.
> http://www.politicalcompass.org/
> Strictly speaking, they could add a third dimension, for
> liberal-conservative, but there's no way to adequately represent it in this
> medium (that doesn't involve animation effects and a lot more bandwidth
> than is feasible for a site like that).
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<pbowles [at] aol.com> wrote in message news:1121913576.881981.91930 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>Wrong. Conservative indicates "less intrusive government in people's lives"
> http://www.answers.com/topic/conservatism?method=6
> "1. The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing
> or traditional order.
> 2. A political philosophy or attitude emphasizing respect for
> traditional institutions, distrust of government activism, and
> opposition to sudden change in the established order."
> Philip Bowles
Again, quoting a standard dictionary is not scholarship.
If you want to find a simple answer, at least seek a Glossary associated with the
subject matter you are concerned about:
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http://www.nelson.com/nelson/polisci/glossary.html
conservatism A political ideology generally characterized by a belief in individualism
and minimal government intervention in the economy and society; also a belief in the
virtue of the status quo and general acceptance of traditional morality.
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http://www.ee.bilkent.edu.tr/~ge301/polideologies.txt
RIGHT VS. LEFT
The traditional political spectrum places people on a line somewhere
between "left" and "right." These terms originated with the seating
arrangements of the French Assembly in the 1790s, where the monarchists
sat on the right, and the republicans on the left. In current usage,
especially in the US, left is generally associated with liberalism and
right with conservatism.
This page on teaching the political spectrum includes a diagram of the
traditional political spectrum, and includes summaries of liberal and
conservative viewpoints.
http://www.lahapkido.com/teach.html
Left-wing or leftist are:
"General descriptive terms for any of several otherwise quite varied
political ideologies (socialism, communism, social democracy, welfare
statism, contemporary American liberalism, some versions of anarchism,,
etc.) that join in denouncing the extent of economic and social
inequality in the present order of society and advocate the adoption of
vigorous public policies to reduce or eliminate these inequalities"
http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/left-wing.html
Right-wing or rightist is:
"A general descriptive term for any of several otherwise rather
different, conservative, reactionary or fascist political ideologies, the
common denominator of which is their qualified or enthusiastic support
for the main features of the current social and economic order, accepting
all (or nearly all) of its inequalities of wealth, status and privilege
(or even in some cases support for a return to an earlier, even more
inegalitarian and hierarchical political-economic order.)"
http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/right-wing.html
This page lists some of the differences between the left and right in the
US, as taken from the Left Guide and the Right Guide, which drew
conclusions about the general characteristics after performing a survey
of organizations.
http://nj.npri.org/nj98/03/left_right.htm
If you aren't sure what your political ideology is, you can take the
World's Smallest Political Quiz, which places you on a diamond-shaped
political spectrum (rather than the standard left/right straight line).
Bear in mind that it is a libertarian quiz. Still, it's a good tool for
helping you to determine roughly where you fit.
http://www.self-gov.org/wspq.html
LIBERALISM VS. CONSERVATISM
Liberalism
The term liberalism has a different meaning in Europe than in the US. In
Europe, liberalism refers to a 19th century political ideology which is
partially concerned with removing inhibitions on the capitalist economy,
while in the US it has come to mean an ideology that advocates a stronger
regulatory role for government, while still advocating civil liberties
and progressive values.
http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/liberalism.html
According to this European definition of liberalism:
"The word liberal is derived from the Latin liber, free, and up to the
end of the eighteenth century signified only 'worthy of a free man', so
that people spoke of 'liberal arts', 'liberal occupations'. Later the
term was applied also to those qualities of intellect and of character,
which were considered an ornament becoming those who occupied a higher
social position on account of their wealth and education. Thus liberal
got the meaning of intellectually independent, broad-minded, magnanimous,
frank, open, and genial. Again Liberalism may also mean a political
system or tendency opposed to centralization and absolutism."
The definition of liberalism is followed by short descriptions of several
different kinds of liberalism.
http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/dissent/defnlibr.htm
This liberalism FAQ provides a clearer and more concise definition of
liberalism as it is generally meant today (and in the US), and answers
questions about the differences between liberalism and socialism and what
liberals believe. The liberal view of war, according to this FAQ, is as
follows:
"Some liberals model their beliefs after Mahatma Gandhi, in that they are
absolute pacifists, renouncing violence for any reason. However, most
liberals see a legitimate need for self-defense, even on a national level
with armed forces. The fight against Hitler is a commonly cited example.
But liberals are united in their view that offensive military operations
are wrong."
http://www.9-11peace.org/r2.php3?r=122
This is a list of some US-based liberal organizations.
http://www.9-11peace.org/r2.php3?r=123
Conservatism
Conservatism is generally used to mean:
"A general preference for the existing order of society and an opposition
to all efforts to bring about rapid or fundamental change in that order.
Conservative ideologies characteristically strive to show that existing
economic and political inequalities are well justified and that the
existing order is about as close as is practically attainable to an ideal
order. Conservative ideologies most often base their claims on the
teachings of religion and traditional morality and tend to downplay the
reliability of purely rational or deductive social theories propounded by
secular philosophers, economists, and other social thinkers."
http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/conservatism.html
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