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OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132076] Mo, 12 September 2005 19:16
Yuk Tang  
England have won the Ashes!!!!

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Cheers, ymt.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132078 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 20:17
Jette Goldie  
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:16:06 +0100, Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> England have won the Ashes!!!!
>

Yeah, they blooming well delayed the national news for it - something I
can't see happening if Scotland was playing Australia at cricket.

> :-(

(actually, we tried - and got rained off last month)

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jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132086 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 22:42
the softrat  
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:17:44 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
<jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:16:06 +0100, Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> England have won the Ashes!!!!
>>
>
>Yeah, they blooming well delayed the national news for it - something I
>can't see happening if Scotland was playing Australia at cricket.
>
>> :-(
>
>(actually, we tried - and got rained off last month)


What is Hell are you Bloody Limeys going on about??

the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat [at] pobox.com
--
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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132092 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 22:50
Prai Jei  
the softrat (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<vvpbi11mimhh6gil9lvojubd73pt987689 [at] 4ax.com>:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:17:44 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
> <jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:16:06 +0100, Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> England have won the Ashes!!!!
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, they blooming well delayed the national news for it - something I
>>can't see happening if Scotland was playing Australia at cricket.
>>
>>> :-(
>>
>>(actually, we tried - and got rained off last month)
>
>
> What is Hell are you Bloody Limeys going on about??

British Culture, that's what.

It would appear that the English team in our national summer sport has won
some kind of victory over the Australian team, and have won the trophy that
goes with it for the first time since 1989.

(Could you explain "First Down and 10" to your average Bloody Limey?)
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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132115 ] Di, 13 September 2005 02:08
Christopher Kreuzer  
Yuk Tang wrote:
> England have won the Ashes!!!!

Good summer's cricket, wasn't it? :-)

Going all etymological, is the term saying a game is 'drawn' derived
from the practice of drawing the stumps from the ground? Surely not. It
must come from something to do with drawing (as with pen and pencil) the
result? Or maybe not. Maybe something draws to a close?

Christopher

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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132117 ] Di, 13 September 2005 02:19
Christopher Kreuzer  
Prai Jei <pvstownsend [at] zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

> It would appear that the English team in our national summer sport
> has won some kind of victory over the Australian team, and have won
> the trophy that goes with it for the first time since 1989.

1987. First time in 18 years.

I do hope they burn the bails from that match and take them over to
Australia in 2006/7 and declare the death of Australian cricket!

> (Could you explain "First Down and 10" to your average Bloody Limey?)

I had trouble understanding the requirement to bat halfway through the
last hour. But then, instead, the Australian batsmen, knowing full well
they had a hopeless task, took the light that was offered (ie. bad light
stopped play). I was looking forward to an hour of watching the
Australian batmen having to bat out time knowing they had lost the
Ashes. But both sides played incredible cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn
McGrath were amazing for Australia.

Christopher

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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132125 ] Di, 13 September 2005 06:31
Yuk Tang  
"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:rMoVe.107701$G8.88561 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> Yuk Tang wrote:
>> England have won the Ashes!!!!
>
> Good summer's cricket, wasn't it? :-)

Cricket first came to my attention in 1989, and I started following
it in 1991. From the August Observer Sport Monthly,

'No cricket fan should have had to grow up in the era of Mike
Atherton's England. The team you follow as a child should be the one
you remember for the rest of your life, a team to provide the
standard by which you judge future generations, allowing you to
indulge in one of the pleasures of being old by saying: 'It were
never like that in my day.' My generation, growing up in the
Nineties, will be able only to shake their heads and mutter: 'I've
known it worse, far worse, than this.'

India/Sri Lanka 1992/93 (Bombay Brownwash)
Australia 1993 (Q: Who took 4 wickets against Australia at Lord's in
1993? A: England)
All-comers 1992/93 (Losing 8 Tests in a row, half of them by an
innings, "England have finally won a Test match" at 12th attempt
after another innings loss and another by 10 wickets)
Trinidad 1993/94 (46 all out)
All-comers 1994 (4 sub-100 totals in 12 months)
Australia 1994/95 (Losing to Australian youth team, birth of Barmy
Army as journalist comments English supporters must be barmy spending
all that money to watch England lose)
Zimbabwe 1996/97 ("We flippin' murdered 'em")
New Zealand 1999 (England bottom of Test rankings)

All those humiliations over the years, eventually resulting in this,
the regaining of the Ashes. The softrat won't understand how I and
millions of other limeys felt that Edgbaston Sunday, and this Oval
Monday.


> Going all etymological, is the term saying a game is 'drawn'
> derived from the practice of drawing the stumps from the ground?
> Surely not. It must come from something to do with drawing (as
> with pen and pencil) the result? Or maybe not. Maybe something
> draws to a close?

JRRT might have had an interesting time finding the origins of the
term. As for myself, NFI.


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Cheers, ymt.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132126 ] Di, 13 September 2005 06:46
Yuk Tang  
"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:6WoVe.107708$G8.6047 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>
> I had trouble understanding the requirement to bat halfway through
> the last hour. But then, instead, the Australian batsmen, knowing
> full well they had a hopeless task, took the light that was
> offered (ie. bad light stopped play). I was looking forward to an
> hour of watching the Australian batmen having to bat out time
> knowing they had lost the Ashes.

No-one wanted to play on, except Brett Lee. Lee was bowling
incredibly towards the end with his 95+mph thunderbolts attempting to
brain the English tailenders. Ponting eventually took him off for
fear that he might hospitalise someone at this stage of the series.
Lee looked like he was going to cry when Ponting went over and put
his arm around him, such was the pain of losing the Ashes.


> But both sides played incredible
> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for Australia.

By this stage England no longer feared anyone but Warne, an amazing
turnaround from the beginning when many thought a 5-0 Aus win was
feasible, and Neil Harvey among others were comparing this team to
the 1948 'Invincibles'. I personally thought Aus would win 3-1, and
considered myself optimistic. I watched us crumple at Lord's, and
thought, "Here we go again". Then came Harmison's bouncer to
Kasprowicz at Edgbaston, and I literally jumped for joy.


--
Cheers, ymt.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132130 ] Di, 13 September 2005 09:09
nopspam  
Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns96D03AAB54B78jimlaker2yahoocom [at] 130.133.1.4:

> "Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:6WoVe.107708$G8.6047 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>>
>> I had trouble understanding the requirement to bat halfway through
>> the last hour. But then, instead, the Australian batsmen, knowing
>> full well they had a hopeless task, took the light that was
>> offered (ie. bad light stopped play). I was looking forward to an
>> hour of watching the Australian batmen having to bat out time
>> knowing they had lost the Ashes.
>
> No-one wanted to play on, except Brett Lee. Lee was bowling
> incredibly towards the end with his 95+mph thunderbolts attempting to
> brain the English tailenders. Ponting eventually took him off for
> fear that he might hospitalise someone at this stage of the series.
> Lee looked like he was going to cry when Ponting went over and put
> his arm around him, such was the pain of losing the Ashes.
>
>> But both sides played incredible
>> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for Australia.
>
> By this stage England no longer feared anyone but Warne, an amazing
> turnaround from the beginning when many thought a 5-0 Aus win was
> feasible, and Neil Harvey among others were comparing this team to
> the 1948 'Invincibles'. I personally thought Aus would win 3-1, and
> considered myself optimistic. I watched us crumple at Lord's, and
> thought, "Here we go again". Then came Harmison's bouncer to
> Kasprowicz at Edgbaston, and I literally jumped for joy.

Come ON! Quit! This - is - way - too - off - topic! Gahhh!

(Why can't we just discuss some Scandinavian linguistics or American
politics, when we get bored with Tolkien?)

--
Mästerkatten
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132151 ] Di, 13 September 2005 14:24
Derek Broughton  
Mästerkatten wrote:

> Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns96D03AAB54B78jimlaker2yahoocom [at] 130.133.1.4:
>
>> "Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:6WoVe.107708$G8.6047 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>>
>>> But both sides played incredible
>>> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for Australia.
....
>> Then came Harmison's bouncer to
>> Kasprowicz at Edgbaston, and I literally jumped for joy.
>
> Come ON! Quit! This - is - way - too - off - topic! Gahhh!
>
> (Why can't we just discuss some Scandinavian linguistics or American
> politics, when we get bored with Tolkien?)

I can only confess myself stumped. I was a child in England, and cricket
was the only sport I was ever any good at, but (a) it's a game; and (b)
it's still an incomprehensible game :-)

When even Christopher lets himself go OT for something like this, I guess I
must be missing _something_.
--
derek
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132170 ] Di, 13 September 2005 22:33
Jette Goldie  
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:09:42 +0100, Mästerkatten <nopspam [at] nospam.com>
wrote:

> Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns96D03AAB54B78jimlaker2yahoocom [at] 130.133.1.4:
>
>> "Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:6WoVe.107708$G8.6047 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>>>
>>> I had trouble understanding the requirement to bat halfway through
>>> the last hour. But then, instead, the Australian batsmen, knowing
>>> full well they had a hopeless task, took the light that was
>>> offered (ie. bad light stopped play). I was looking forward to an
>>> hour of watching the Australian batmen having to bat out time
>>> knowing they had lost the Ashes.
>>
>> No-one wanted to play on, except Brett Lee. Lee was bowling
>> incredibly towards the end with his 95+mph thunderbolts attempting to
>> brain the English tailenders. Ponting eventually took him off for
>> fear that he might hospitalise someone at this stage of the series.
>> Lee looked like he was going to cry when Ponting went over and put
>> his arm around him, such was the pain of losing the Ashes.
>>
>>> But both sides played incredible
>>> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for Australia.
>>
>> By this stage England no longer feared anyone but Warne, an amazing
>> turnaround from the beginning when many thought a 5-0 Aus win was
>> feasible, and Neil Harvey among others were comparing this team to
>> the 1948 'Invincibles'. I personally thought Aus would win 3-1, and
>> considered myself optimistic. I watched us crumple at Lord's, and
>> thought, "Here we go again". Then came Harmison's bouncer to
>> Kasprowicz at Edgbaston, and I literally jumped for joy.
>
> Come ON! Quit! This - is - way - too - off - topic! Gahhh!
>
> (Why can't we just discuss some Scandinavian linguistics or American
> politics, when we get bored with Tolkien?)
>


D'ye think Tolkien would have been watching the game had he been still
with us?



--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132171 ] Di, 13 September 2005 22:07
Raven  
"the softrat" <softrat [at] pobox.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:vvpbi11mimhh6gil9lvojubd73pt987689 [at] 4ax.com...

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:17:44 GMT, "Jette Goldie"
> <jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> >On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:16:06 +0100, Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com>
> >wrote:

> >> England have won the Ashes!!!!

> >Yeah, they blooming well delayed the national news for it - something I
> >can't see happening if Scotland was playing Australia at cricket.

> >(actually, we tried - and got rained off last month)

> What is Hell are you Bloody Limeys going on about??

Hell is a place where sinners such as mispelers go after death, where
they shall be forced to rait Inglisj ekårding to Nårwidjen rul's åv
speling --- which, as this demonstration indicates, will be neither easy nor
wholly accurate.
(The really heavy sinners shall be forced to write it according to Dutch
rules instead.)
Krikkit is some sort of obscure game of sports peculiar to Limey country
and some others that have been historically affiliated with it. Sort of
like baseball in a certain other country.

Hrafn.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132172 ] Di, 13 September 2005 22:50
Prai Jei  
Raven (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<byGVe.1085$fr4.380 [at] news.get2net.dk>:

> (The really heavy sinners shall be forced to write it according to
> Dutch
> rules instead.)
Rules? :)

> Krikkit is some sort of obscure game of sports peculiar to Limey
> country
One of Douglas Adams' HHGG series novels turns upon precisely this spelling
for the name of the Game.
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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132173 ] Di, 13 September 2005 22:58
Taemon  
Raven wrote:

> (The really heavy sinners shall be forced to write it according to
> Dutch rules instead.)

You have your moments.

T.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132186 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 01:35
Christopher Kreuzer  
Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
> news:rMoVe.107701$G8.88561 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
>> Yuk Tang wrote:
>>> England have won the Ashes!!!!
>>
>> Good summer's cricket, wasn't it? :-)
>
> Cricket first came to my attention in 1989, and I started following
> it in 1991.

I've never followed it avidly, but it has always been one of the sports
I've enjoyed watching.

<snip>

> All-comers 1992/93 (Losing 8 Tests in a row, half of them by an
> innings, "England have finally won a Test match" at 12th attempt
> after another innings loss and another by 10 wickets)

I remember this.

> Trinidad 1993/94 (46 all out)

And this!

<snip>

> All those humiliations over the years, eventually resulting in this,
> the regaining of the Ashes. The softrat won't understand how I and
> millions of other limeys felt that Edgbaston Sunday, and this Oval
> Monday.

I missed Edgbaston. :-(

What has been incredible is how close all the games have been. Even the
first innings at Lords suggests that England could have won that if
things had been only slightly different. So it could be said that either
side could have won all of the Tests. And if Australia had got those 3
runs at Edgbaston, then the last two Tests could have been deader than a
dodo. Great stuff.

>> Going all etymological, is the term saying a game is 'drawn'
>> derived from the practice of drawing the stumps from the ground?
>> Surely not. It must come from something to do with drawing (as
>> with pen and pencil) the result? Or maybe not. Maybe something
>> draws to a close?
>
> JRRT might have had an interesting time finding the origins of the
> term. As for myself, NFI.

One idea I found was that it comes from the idea that both sides in a
battle end up giving up and withdrawing, hence "a draw". From c.1610.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=drawn

Seems a bit forced, but couldn't find anything better.

Christopher

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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132187 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 01:43
Christopher Kreuzer  
Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>

> No-one wanted to play on, except Brett Lee. Lee was bowling
> incredibly towards the end with his 95+mph thunderbolts attempting to
> brain the English tailenders.

Did you see the expression on his face when he was bowling those balls!
Really fired up!

> Ponting eventually took him off for
> fear that he might hospitalise someone at this stage of the series.

Ponting has said that?

> Lee looked like he was going to cry when Ponting went over and put
> his arm around him, such was the pain of losing the Ashes.

I hope they keep Brett Lee in the team. He played really well. It will
be interesting to see what happens to that Australia team. And as for
our team, what they decide to do about Ian Bell and Geraint Jones.

>> But both sides played incredible
>> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for Australia.
>
> By this stage England no longer feared anyone but Warne

I've heard that at the beginning of the day, when Warne was bowling, it
was heart-in-the-mouth every single time. I remember that feeling when I
watched the England run chase at Trent Bridge, and FIRST ball he got a
wicket! It was a Gatting moment all over again.

But it was a cruel twist of fate that Warne put down that catch off
Pieterson when he was on 15. I wonder if it was because he had been
tired out from having to bowl too much?

Christopher

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Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132190 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 01:52
Christopher Kreuzer  
Raven <jonlennart.beck.god [at] damn.get2net.that.dk.spam> wrote:

<snip>

> Hell is a place where sinners such as mispelers go after death,
> where they shall be forced to rait Inglisj ekårding to Nårwidjen
> rul's åv
> speling --- which, as this demonstration indicates, will be neither
> easy nor wholly accurate.

LOL!

> (The really heavy sinners shall be forced to write it according to
> Dutch rules instead.)

ROTFL!

> Krikkit is some sort of obscure game of sports peculiar to Limey
> country and some others that have been historically affiliated with
> it. Sort of like baseball in a certain other country.

Hey! All sports are silly. They are just a way to sublimate and express
the testosterone fuelled competitive urge, but without having wars.
Apparently.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132193 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 02:36
Yuk Tang  
"Christopher Kreuzer" <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:suJVe.108294$G8.20320 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
> Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> No-one wanted to play on, except Brett Lee. Lee was bowling
>> incredibly towards the end with his 95+mph thunderbolts
>> attempting to brain the English tailenders.
>
> Did you see the expression on his face when he was bowling those
> balls! Really fired up!

There was a visible hatred for the batsman, for England, and
everything that had brought him to this end, including himself.
Hoggard's response was to look at him in bemusement, followed by a
slight grin at his meriting such treatment.


>> Ponting eventually took him off for
>> fear that he might hospitalise someone at this stage of the
>> series.
>
> Ponting has said that?

Lee was bowling at around 95mph, so he obviously wasn't tired.
Wickets didn't matter, so his going for runs wouldn't have been a
factor. Why else would he have been taken off?


>> Lee looked like he was going to cry when Ponting went over and
>> put his arm around him, such was the pain of losing the Ashes.
>
> I hope they keep Brett Lee in the team. He played really well. It
> will be interesting to see what happens to that Australia team.
> And as for our team, what they decide to do about Ian Bell and
> Geraint Jones.

I used to loathe Lee for being given preferential treatment by Waugh,
for his bullying of rabbits, for his chickening out when it was his
turn to bat, for bowling reasonable first spells then useless crap
for the remainder of the match. In this series he has taken as much
as he's given, and he still steamed in when everyone else had given
up. Absent any kind of preferential treatment by Ponting, he's
earned my respect and admiration.


>>> But both sides played incredible
>>> cricket. Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were amazing for
>>> Australia.
>>
>> By this stage England no longer feared anyone but Warne
>
> I've heard that at the beginning of the day, when Warne was
> bowling, it was heart-in-the-mouth every single time. I remember
> that feeling when I watched the England run chase at Trent Bridge,
> and FIRST ball he got a wicket! It was a Gatting moment all over
> again.

Not just first ball, but first ball of the next over as well. In
this match, he frightened the hell out of Trescothick and millions of
English viewers by ripping them out of the rough. One delivery that
turned 31 inches from pitch to stumps (the Gatt ball was only 21)
wasn't initially recognised by Hawkeye as a valid ball, such were the
freak dimensions.

McGrath may have taken 2 wickets in 2 balls, and nearly a 3rd with
his 3rd, but there was a feeling that batsmen could wait him out and
progress into a comfort zone. There was never that feeling against
Warne.


> But it was a cruel twist of fate that Warne put down that catch
> off Pieterson when he was on 15. I wonder if it was because he had
> been tired out from having to bowl too much?

I suspect that even he, the greatest of all spinners, may have seized
up from nerves. It's interesting how the only other comparable
Australian cricketer, Bradman, was the exact psychological opposite.
Warne harks back to the likes of Denis Compton and Keith Miller.
There's a pic on the inside of the Graun of him being consoled by
McGrath. It was touching how he was greeted on the boundary by
chants of "We only wish you were English".


--
Cheers, ymt.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132205 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 07:58
Flame of the West  
Mästerkatten wrote:

> Come ON! Quit! This - is - way - too - off - topic! Gahhh!
>
> (Why can't we just discuss some Scandinavian linguistics or American
> politics, when we get bored with Tolkien?)

Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
discussing American football, the *ultimate*
sport!


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132212 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 13:05
ojevind.lang  
Flame of the West wrote:

>Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
discussing American football, the *ultimate*
sport!=20

You mean the game they play with their hands?

=D6jevind
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132213 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 13:41
Yuk Tang  
"Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote in
news:1126695951.806607.77720 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
> Flame of the West wrote:
>
>> Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
>> discussing American football, the *ultimate*
>> sport!
>
> You mean the game they play with their hands?

Why *do* they wear helmets and padding when playing rugby?


Cheers, ymt.
Returning to yankee-bashing, to Masterkatten's relief.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132218 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 17:01
zip  
"Yuk Tang" <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote...

> England have won the Ashes!!!!

So what.

-Paul.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132221 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 19:17
nopspam  
Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns96D18117FE3A9jimlaker2yahoocom [at] 130.133.1.4:

> "Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote in
> news:1126695951.806607.77720 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>> Flame of the West wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
>>> discussing American football, the *ultimate*
>>> sport!
>>
>> You mean the game they play with their hands?
>
> Why *do* they wear helmets and padding when playing rugby?

You try playing it without.

>
> Cheers, ymt.
> Returning to yankee-bashing, to Masterkatten's relief.

Er... thanks?

--
Mästerkatten
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132222 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 19:18
nopspam  
"Jette Goldie" <jette [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:op.sw1578leab9yeg [at] 82-
41-75-111.cable.ubr10.edin.blueyonder.co.uk:

[snips cricket stuff]

> D'ye think Tolkien would have been watching the game had he been still
> with us?

I imagine so. I imagine he was very English in an old-fashioned way, and
cricket seems as very English and old-fashioned as high tea.

--
Mästerkatten
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132223 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 19:19
nopspam  
Derek Broughton <news [at] pointerstop.ca> wrote in
news:b0tiv2-lba.ln1 [at] othello.pointerstop.ca:

[snip]

> I can only confess myself stumped. I was a child in England, and
> cricket was the only sport I was ever any good at, but (a) it's a
> game; and (b) it's still an incomprehensible game :-)

What a relief to read that last sentence. I spent at least two hours on a
guided tour at Lord's Cricket Ground and the cricket museum there,
understanding virtually nothing of what the guide said about the game. I
suspect that's only normal.

They also introduced medieval tennis, and handed out a summary of the
rules. When I asked if there, possibly, existed a similar leaflet for
cricket, the rest of the audience (Australians mainly) got themselves a
good laugh.

--
Mästerkatten
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132225 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 19:31
Jette Goldie  
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:58:42 +0100, Flame of the West
<FotW [at] NOSPAMsolinas.org> wrote:

> Mästerkatten wrote:
>
>> Come ON! Quit! This - is - way - too - off - topic! Gahhh!
>> (Why can't we just discuss some Scandinavian linguistics or American
>> politics, when we get bored with Tolkien?)
>
> Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
> discussing American football, the *ultimate*
> sport!


Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs and no body
armour!

--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132226 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 19:32
Jette Goldie  
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:17:50 +0100, Mästerkatten <nopspam [at] nospam.com>
wrote:

> Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns96D18117FE3A9jimlaker2yahoocom [at] 130.133.1.4:
>
>> "Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote in
>> news:1126695951.806607.77720 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
>>> Flame of the West wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
>>>> discussing American football, the *ultimate*
>>>> sport!
>>>
>>> You mean the game they play with their hands?
>>
>> Why *do* they wear helmets and padding when playing rugby?
>
> You try playing it without.
>



The rugby players do. Harder and faster.



--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132239 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 22:13
Raven  
"Flame of the West" <FotW [at] NOSPAMsolinas.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:DsydnbWAVquFIbreRVn-qw [at] comcast.com...

> Yeah! If this continues, I'm gonna start
> discussing American football, the *ultimate*
> sport!

Oh yeah. That game which is played mainly with the hands, as opposed to
football, which is played mainly with the feet.
But American football isn't as obscure as baseball, seen from outside
your country. Danish sports pages are beginning to follow it. And some
people play it.

Ravn.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132240 ] Mi, 14 September 2005 22:10
Raven  
"Prai Jei" <pvstownsend [at] zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i en meddelelse
news:dg7dug$alv$2 [at] news7.svr.pol.co.uk...

> Raven (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
> <byGVe.1085$fr4.380 [at] news.get2net.dk>:

> > Krikkit is some sort of obscure game of sports peculiar to Limey
> > country

> One of Douglas Adams' HHGG series novels turns upon precisely this
> spelling for the name of the Game.

WARCLUB! Yes, I remember.

Corvus.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132257 ] Do, 15 September 2005 07:06
Flame of the West  
Jette Goldie wrote:

> The rugby players do. Harder and faster.

"Rugby players eat their dead"

-- bumper sticker I once saw.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #132258 ] Do, 15 September 2005 07:07
Flame of the West  
Jette Goldie wrote:

> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs and no
> body armour!

I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
all violence and no skill!


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134821 ] Do, 15 September 2005 14:17
Derek Broughton  
Flame of the West wrote:

> Jette Goldie wrote:
>
>> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs and no
>> body armour!
>
> I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
> all violence and no skill!

I think not. Andy is a football (ie, soccer) player.

Soccer is a hooligan's game. Rugby is a gentleman's game. (OK, I don't
understand that either, but that's what my Dad, who used to play rugby for
the Hartlepool Rovers, used to tell me!)
--
derek
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134826 ] Do, 15 September 2005 17:28
Yuk Tang  
Derek Broughton <news [at] pointerstop.ca> wrote in
news:2c5ov2-9q8.ln1 [at] othello.pointerstop.ca:
> Flame of the West wrote:
>> Jette Goldie wrote:
>>
>>> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs
>>> and no body armour!
>>
>> I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
>> all violence and no skill!
>
> I think not. Andy is a football (ie, soccer) player.
>
> Soccer is a hooligan's game. Rugby is a gentleman's game. (OK, I
> don't understand that either, but that's what my Dad, who used to
> play rugby for the Hartlepool Rovers, used to tell me!)

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Finger
http://wesclark.com/rrr/hopoate.html


--
Cheers, ymt.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134829 ] Do, 15 September 2005 18:39
Derek Broughton  
Yuk Tang wrote:

> Derek Broughton <news [at] pointerstop.ca> wrote in
> news:2c5ov2-9q8.ln1 [at] othello.pointerstop.ca:
>> Flame of the West wrote:
>>> Jette Goldie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs
>>>> and no body armour!
>>>
>>> I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
>>> all violence and no skill!
>>
>> I think not. Andy is a football (ie, soccer) player.
>>
>> Soccer is a hooligan's game. Rugby is a gentleman's game. (OK, I
>> don't understand that either, but that's what my Dad, who used to
>> play rugby for the Hartlepool Rovers, used to tell me!)
>
> Crouching Tiger, Hidden Finger
> http://wesclark.com/rrr/hopoate.html
>
Gross!

Oh well, that was Rugby League! (throwing more confusion at the Americans)
--
derek
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134830 ] Do, 15 September 2005 20:06
Jette Goldie  
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:06:41 +0100, Flame of the West
<FotW [at] NOSPAMsolinas.org> wrote:

> Jette Goldie wrote:
>
>> The rugby players do. Harder and faster.
>
> "Rugby players eat their dead"
>
> -- bumper sticker I once saw.

They don't always wait till they're dead.

--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134831 ] Do, 15 September 2005 20:08
Jette Goldie  
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:17:37 +0100, Derek Broughton <news [at] pointerstop.ca>
wrote:

> Flame of the West wrote:
>
>> Jette Goldie wrote:
>>
>>> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs and no
>>> body armour!
>>
>> I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
>> all violence and no skill!
>
> I think not. Andy is a football (ie, soccer) player.
>
> Soccer is a hooligan's game. Rugby is a gentleman's game. (OK, I don't
> understand that either, but that's what my Dad, who used to play rugby
> for
> the Hartlepool Rovers, used to tell me!)

Soccer is a gentleman's game, played by and for hooligans whereas rugby is
a hooligans' game, played by gentlemen.

Rubgy players are also more likely to drop their breeches in the pub and
moon you. Soccer fans just gub you.

--
Jette Goldie
jette.goldie [at] gmail.com
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.livejournal.com/users/wolfette/
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134850 ] Fr, 16 September 2005 00:20
Christopher Kreuzer  
Yuk Tang <jim.laker2 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> Derek Broughton <news [at] pointerstop.ca> wrote in
> news:2c5ov2-9q8.ln1 [at] othello.pointerstop.ca:
>> Flame of the West wrote:
>>> Jette Goldie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wusses - they should try playing Rugby instead - no time outs
>>>> and no body armour!
>>>
>>> I've read enough Andy Capp to know that Rugby is
>>> all violence and no skill!
>>
>> I think not. Andy is a football (ie, soccer) player.
>>
>> Soccer is a hooligan's game. Rugby is a gentleman's game. (OK, I
>> don't understand that either, but that's what my Dad, who used to
>> play rugby for the Hartlepool Rovers, used to tell me!)
>
> Crouching Tiger, Hidden Finger
> http://wesclark.com/rrr/hopoate.html

LOL! I liked the bit about the enterprising cancer charity that used the
picture to get people to have checks for prostate cancer. And I see that
the player eventually resigned in disgrace.
Re: OT Umpires are on, the stumps are drawn [message #134853 ] Fr, 16 September 2005 03:19
Flame of the West  
Jette Goldie wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:06:41 +0100, Flame of the West
> <FotW [at] NOSPAMsolinas.org> wrote:
>
>> Jette Goldie wrote:
>>
>>> The rugby players do. Harder and faster.
>>
>>
>> "Rugby players eat their dead"
>>
>> -- bumper sticker I once saw.
>
>
> They don't always wait till they're dead.
>
LOL.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
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