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Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #131991] So, 11 September 2005 15:59
onq  
From the page 2 of the Irish edition of The Sunday Times.

Date: Sunday 11th September 2005.

By: Sarah Baxter in Washington

Bush Bungled Katrina Crisis, says British Poll

An overwhelming majority of Britons believe that President George W. Bush
has mismanaged the response to Hurricane Katrina, a Sunday Times poll has
found.

Fully 86% of people said his handling of the crisis was "bad" or "very
bad", while 70% said he was a generally incompetent president. By three
to one, 63% to %23%, people think the response to the hurricane would
have been speedier and more effective if most people had been white and
middle class. By 67% to 19% they think race and class division im America
is as bad as ever.

The poll of a representative sample of 1,856 adults, carried out o n
September 8-9 by YouGov, the online pollsters, is the first main test of
UK public opinion on the crisis.

The findings do not appear to have been driven by hostility to America
over Iraq. Less than half, 48%, thought the failings in Louisiana and
Mississippi were because manpower had been diverted to Iraq.

The poll dismisses the proposition that people in affected areas had only
themselves to blame for their problems because of their failure to heed
the warnings to evacuate, and because of the looting and lawlessness that
followed the hurricane. By two to one, 53% to 29%, this is rejected.

The poll uncovers deep hostility to Bush: 57% agree and 23% disagree that
he is "one of the worst presidents that America has ever had". By 66% to
18% they think he is generally "not trustworthy", and by 68% to 21% that
he is "not really concerned about the fate of ordinary people".

The disaster has also hit America's reputation more generally. By 63% to
20%, people said the Katrina aftermath and the Iraq violence showed
America is "losing the ability to organise and run things."

Asked whether they had given money to help the victims of the Indian
Ocean tsunami, 70% said they had and 30% that they had not. Asked whether
they had given or would give to help the victims of the hurricane, 31%
said yes and 69% said no.

The findings coincided with a US survey showing 53% of Americans have a
deep feeling of shame about the handling of the hurricane's aftermath.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132002 ] So, 11 September 2005 21:53
Gregory Hernandez  
Whether or not I agree with your comments, I'd like to know where else you
post them as I believe they are waaaaaaaaaaay off-topic here.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132029 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 03:28
Flame of the West  
Michael O'Neill wrote:

> An overwhelming majority of Britons believe that President George W. Bush
> has mismanaged the response to Hurricane Katrina, a Sunday Times poll has
> found.

The Brits are our good friends, but to be honest I really
don't care what they or any foreigners think. It's nice
of the rest of the world to offer help, but they can keep
their advice to themselves. We'll sort it out, you can
count on that.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132039 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 08:33
Morgil  
Flame of the West wrote:
> Michael O'Neill wrote:
>
>> An overwhelming majority of Britons believe that President George W. Bush
>> has mismanaged the response to Hurricane Katrina, a Sunday Times poll has
>> found.
>
>
> The Brits are our good friends, but to be honest I really
> don't care what they or any foreigners think. It's nice
> of the rest of the world to offer help, but they can keep
> their advice to themselves. We'll sort it out, you can
> count on that.

You may not care, but it seems *most* Americans dislike the
idea of looking like incompetent fools in the eyes of world.
"53% of Americans have a deep feeling of shame about the
handling of the hurricane's aftermath."

Morgil
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132041 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 11:23
Flame of the West  
Morgil wrote:

> You may not care, but it seems *most* Americans dislike the
> idea of looking like incompetent fools in the eyes of world.

As do I (I said so on Sept. 6), but I
don't care whether the British public
blames President Bush or local officials.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132049 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 14:54
Matty-o  
Aren't you Irish? Get a life.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132052 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 16:06
onq  
ssssooo wrote:
>
> Aren't you Irish? Get a life.

Aren't you posting? Get a nic.

M.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132061 ] Mo, 12 September 2005 17:30
Morgil  
Flame of the West wrote:
> Morgil wrote:
>
>> You may not care, but it seems *most* Americans dislike the
>> idea of looking like incompetent fools in the eyes of world.
>
>
> As do I (I said so on Sept. 6), but I
> don't care whether the British public
> blames President Bush or local officials.

I doubt there would be nearly as much shame or embarassment
if you could get people to sign it all off as blunders of
local government. Generally speaking.

Morgil
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132099 ] Di, 13 September 2005 00:22
Flame of the West  
Morgil wrote:

> I doubt there would be nearly as much shame or embarassment
> if you could get people to sign it all off as blunders of
> local government. Generally speaking.

I don't see why. Dealing with disasters or terrorist
attacks is a joint effort of the local, state, and
Federal governments. It's a national disgrace that
the job wasn't done. I don't think people would feel
better if they discovered that the locals can't
handle disasters and the Feds have to come in every
time and rescue them. We need the whole team to be
doing its job.

OTOH, I'm not the type to whine about how embarrassed
I am. To me the important thing is that we are not
ready for the next terrorist attack, let alone the
next major hurricane. We've been talking about
"homeland security" and "first responders" since 9/11,
and the very first major problem we have, the gov't
lets us down. We need to fix things pronto.


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: Sunday Times Poll on Katrina afternath [message #132149 ] Di, 13 September 2005 13:52
ojevind.lang  
Flame of the West wrote:

>OTOH, I'm not the type to whine about how embarrassed
I am. To me the important thing is that we are not
ready for the next terrorist attack, let alone the
next major hurricane. We've been talking about
"homeland security" and "first responders" since 9/11,
and the very first major problem we have, the gov't
lets us down. We need to fix things pronto.

You should ask Elrond to come back from the Undying Lands. He knew how
to handle floods.

=D6jevind
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