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I just have to ask... [message #120830] Mi, 31 August 2005 21:49
Anorak  
IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
waste five dollars!

Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120831 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 22:15
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Anorak wrote:
> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
> waste five dollars!
>
> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?

Opinions vary.

My own feeling is that the movie is better than the bad reviews, but
closer to Hollywood sci-fi entertainment than to real hitchhiker
standard. I enjoyed the movie a lot, but I can see the point of those
who didn't.

In short, I can say that there is _nothing_ new in the movie of original
hitchhiker quality, the added humour is more slapsticky. But to me, that
worked okay, and set me in the mood to enjoy the really good jokes I
know by heart. Worst minus was when some of the passages had been
butchered by removing a line or two that were vital for the timing of a
joke.

In short: Go see it, and judge for yourself, in my opinion it's as much
worth 5 $ as any other movie.

Best
Kåre
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120832 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 22:18
Anorak  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> Anorak wrote:
>
>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>> waste five dollars!
>>
>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>
>
> Opinions vary.
>
> My own feeling is that the movie is better than the bad reviews, but
> closer to Hollywood sci-fi entertainment than to real hitchhiker
> standard. I enjoyed the movie a lot, but I can see the point of those
> who didn't.
>
> In short, I can say that there is _nothing_ new in the movie of original
> hitchhiker quality, the added humour is more slapsticky. But to me, that
> worked okay, and set me in the mood to enjoy the really good jokes I
> know by heart. Worst minus was when some of the passages had been
> butchered by removing a line or two that were vital for the timing of a
> joke.
>
> In short: Go see it, and judge for yourself, in my opinion it's as much
> worth 5 $ as any other movie.
>

How have things been since I've been gone, Kaare?
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120833 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 23:50
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Anorak wrote:
> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
>
>> Anorak wrote:
>>
>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want
>>> to waste five dollars!
>>>
>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinions vary.
>>
>> My own feeling is that the movie is better than the bad reviews, but
>> closer to Hollywood sci-fi entertainment than to real hitchhiker
>> standard. I enjoyed the movie a lot, but I can see the point of those
>> who didn't.
>>
>> In short, I can say that there is _nothing_ new in the movie of
>> original hitchhiker quality, the added humour is more slapsticky. But
>> to me, that worked okay, and set me in the mood to enjoy the really
>> good jokes I know by heart. Worst minus was when some of the passages
>> had been butchered by removing a line or two that were vital for the
>> timing of a joke.
>>
>> In short: Go see it, and judge for yourself, in my opinion it's as
>> much worth 5 $ as any other movie.
>>
>
> How have things been since I've been gone, Kaare?

Well, you missed the great movie wars, and Nikitta has moved with a
boyfriend again, this time to Ireland (or was it Northern Ireland?).
Uhm, we're somewhere in the Deep Thought scene of Fit the Fourth, and
are expecting to finish Primary Phase anywhere within the next
century... Uhm... Chiggy (Dave Adallan) has returned and started being
very active again, and has even for a while provided Liff-word of the
day, but it seems he has returned his book to the library - uhm - and
the website hasn't been updated :-) Oh, and we've had a completely
exceptional amount of postings from Jacoob (that is at least 5).
Can't think of anything more. Oh, yes, MJ Simpson has withdrawn
completely from Douglas Adams society being very angry about people
taking his very bad movie review badly.

Glad to have you back! Stay a while :-)

Best
Kåre
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120840 ] Do, 01 September 2005 09:00
Aquarion  
Take a letter Miss Jones: To Anorak, I just have to ask...:
> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
> waste five dollars!

I liked it. I liked the DNA take on a traditional hollywood love
story, I found the new things interesting (if not fully formed) and
the traditional elements well done.

Also, the soundtrack has Neil Hannon on it, which is always good.

Oh, and I _really_ liked the Book sections. And the Vogons. And the
missles. And Trillian. And the mice. And Slartibartfast. And...
And... And...

It could have been better, but was better than I was expecting.

--
Aquarion, www.aquarionics.com (Mail to mailinator.com is publicly displayed)
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120846 ] Do, 01 September 2005 14:27
Alex Watson  
Anorak wrote:
> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
> waste five dollars!
>
> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?

It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.


--
Alex Watson <s/deadspam/froup/ to reply>
http://www.zen24203.zen.co.uk/
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120852 ] Do, 01 September 2005 21:26
Frankymole  
"Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
> Anorak wrote:
>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>> waste five dollars!
>>
>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>
> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they added
> weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.

It was a train wreck.

--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120857 ] Do, 01 September 2005 23:42
Notifier Deamon  
Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)
Re: I just have to ask... [message #120858 ] Fr, 02 September 2005 04:13
Anorak  
Kenny Hutchings wrote:
> In article <df7kl6$cnn$1 [at] news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com says...
>
>>"Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>>news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>>Anorak wrote:
>>>
>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>
>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they added
>>>weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>
>>It was a train wreck.
>>
>>
>
>
> Let's not start this again. Really. I am positively sick of arguments
> about how good or not good the movie was.
>

When I aked the question, I was actually making a joke, I figured that
the question gets asked alot and I was trying to think of a way to make
an entrance... So yeah, I'm sure it's been gone over before, no need to
continue.
Re: I just have to ask... [message #126741 ] Mo, 05 September 2005 21:26
John Coxon  
On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Frankymole spewed up:

> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>
>>Anorak wrote:
>>
>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>waste five dollars!
>>>
>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>
>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they added
>>weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>
> It was a train wreck.

Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even fitting.

It'd be like saying:

"It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."

Not a good analogy. At all, ever.

--
John Coxon

Disc space - the final frontier!

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
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Re: I just have to ask... [message #126746 ] Mo, 05 September 2005 21:50
Dave Adalian  
"John Coxon" <rogue_nine_1988 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3o3k9fF42m7dU1 [at] individual.net...
> On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms
> of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>
>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>>Anorak wrote:
>>>
>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>
>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they added
>>>weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>
>> It was a train wreck.
>
> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even fitting.
>
> It'd be like saying:
>
> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>
> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>

Hear, hear!

A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment, not a
major catastrophe.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: I just have to ask... [message #126761 ] Di, 06 September 2005 19:32
Freakstone  
"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>> It was a train wreck.
>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>> fitting.
>> It'd be like saying:
>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
> Hear, hear!
> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment, not
> a major catastrophe.

It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.

That's possibly closer to the mark.

--
Fræk
There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Re: I just have to ask... [message #128065 ] Mi, 07 September 2005 19:55
Dave Adalian  
"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
> "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>> fitting.
>>> It'd be like saying:
>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>> Hear, hear!
>> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>> not a major catastrophe.
>
> It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
> seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>
> That's possibly closer to the mark.
>

Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: I just have to ask... [message #128067 ] Mi, 07 September 2005 20:27
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Dave Adalian wrote:
> "Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>
>>"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>
>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was a train wreck.
>>>>
>>>>Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>fitting.
>>>>It'd be like saying:
>>>>"It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>
>>>Hear, hear!
>>>A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>>not a major catastrophe.
>>
>>It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
>>seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>
>>That's possibly closer to the mark.
>
> Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.

Oh. Well, I see you have the true definition of a sense of humour on
your side. Unfortunately I am not in posession of such a definition,
which will explain why I chuckled as I read Freakstone's posting.

Best
Kåre
Re: I just have to ask... [message #128068 ] Mi, 07 September 2005 20:47
Dave Adalian  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
news:431f310f$0$218$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
> Dave Adalian wrote:
>> "Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>>
>>>"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want
>>>>>>>>to waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>>>>brilliantly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It was a train wreck.
>>>>>
>>>>>Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>>fitting.
>>>>>It'd be like saying:
>>>>>"It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>>Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>>
>>>>Hear, hear!
>>>>A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>>>not a major catastrophe.
>>>
>>>It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
>>>seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>>
>>>That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>
>> Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>
> Oh. Well, I see you have the true definition of a sense of humour on your
> side. Unfortunately I am not in posession of such a definition, which will
> explain why I chuckled as I read Freakstone's posting.
>

I guess you've never been at the site of a traffic collision. There's not
usually much to laugh at when people are bleeding and screaming. Glad you
find it funny. I don't. Also interesting that you feel the need to defend
yourself.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: I just have to ask... [message #128069 ] Mi, 07 September 2005 21:23
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Dave Adalian wrote:
> "Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
> news:431f310f$0$218$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>
>>Dave Adalian wrote:
>>
>>>"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want
>>>>>>>>>to waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>>>>>brilliantly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It was a train wreck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>>>fitting.
>>>>>>It'd be like saying:
>>>>>>"It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>>>Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hear, hear!
>>>>>A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>>>>not a major catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>>It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
>>>>seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>>>
>>>>That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>>
>>>Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>>
>>Oh. Well, I see you have the true definition of a sense of humour on your
>>side. Unfortunately I am not in posession of such a definition, which will
>>explain why I chuckled as I read Freakstone's posting.
>>
>
>
> I guess you've never been at the site of a traffic collision. There's not
> usually much to laugh at when people are bleeding and screaming. Glad you
> find it funny. I don't. Also interesting that you feel the need to defend
> yourself.

Uhm, defend myself? Those weren't my words I defended.

Yes, I've been to a traffic accident, and no, it wasn't much fun.
However, that doesn't mean I am against analogies used for humourous
intent. I have never seen that analogies detract from the seriousness of
what you are making an analogy to.

Thus, using the words 'train wreck', 'disaster', or 'tragedy' (or indeed
'travestry') may seem extreme, but they are just analogies. I don't see
that should be so controversial. You might as well claim that poetic
language should be banned (What's so funny about having stars twinkle in
your eyes? You try to have some hydrogen fusion in your eyes and see how
you like it) or that exagerations are disallowed (no, you haven't said
it a billion times. If you had, and it took you half a second to say it
each time, and we assume you don't stop to eat and sleep it would have
taken you almost 28 years).

In the case of Freakstone's comment ot was humourous. It had the
characteristics of humour: unexpectedness and absurdity. I found it funny.

I'm sorry you don't. It must be tough being so serious all the time, and
not being able to use humour as a vent for serious situations. But I
don't see why the rest of us can't have fun without being told off.

To the rest of you, who can enjoy dark humour, here's a headline from
todays The Onion (this is actually slightly on topic, Douglas Adams
recommended The Onion as one of his more regular websites):

"God Outdoes Terrorists Yet Again"

Best
Kåre
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129726 ] Fr, 09 September 2005 19:29
Medicine Hat  
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:55:53 -0700, "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net>
wrote:

>"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>> "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want to
>>>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts brilliantly.
>>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>> fitting.
>>>> It'd be like saying:
>>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>> Hear, hear!
>>> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>> not a major catastrophe.
>>
>> It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
>> seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>
>> That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>
>
>Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>
>-- Dave
>http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/



Is the complete destruction of the Earth at the hands of
efficient bureaucrats funny?

Is the demolition of an entire battle fleet with thousands of
soldiers funny? What if they are all killed by a small dog?

Is xenophobic genocidal terrorism funny? What if it resembles
the game of cricket?

Is if funny when someone hits you on the head for no apparent
reason and then runs away?

Forward your indignation to DNA, if you can find him.

-- Meds
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129729 ] Fr, 09 September 2005 22:46
Dave Adalian  
"Medicine Hat" <jesus [at] you.me> wrote in message
news:5lg3i1hfn6bs8gmfj8i8ntqp2ucje64b7v [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:55:53 -0700, "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>>> "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>>>>brilliantly.
>>>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>> fitting.
>>>>> It'd be like saying:
>>>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>> Hear, hear!
>>>> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>>> not a major catastrophe.
>>>
>>> It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured (one
>>> seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>>
>>> That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>>
>>
>>Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>>
>>-- Dave
>>http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Is the complete destruction of the Earth at the hands of
> efficient bureaucrats funny?
>
> Is the demolition of an entire battle fleet with thousands of
> soldiers funny? What if they are all killed by a small dog?
>
> Is xenophobic genocidal terrorism funny? What if it resembles
> the game of cricket?
>
> Is if funny when someone hits you on the head for no apparent
> reason and then runs away?
>
> Forward your indignation to DNA, if you can find him.
>

In its context, yes, of course it's funny.

In this context of comparing not having liked a movie to a train wreck or a
car collision, things which unfortunately happen on a continuous basis and
some of us have witnessed all too often, unlike the far-flung fantasies of
DNA's literature, it's not funny at all. It's whining, and again, it's
unfortunately continuous even though it can be of absolutely no avail
whatsoever. The movie is made. If you didn't like it, tough.

Thank you for your suggestion on what to do with my indignation. You may
take your own indignant response, print it out, roll it into a nice thin
tube and insert it anywhere you think it will fit. Share and enjoy.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129730 ] Fr, 09 September 2005 23:26
Pink Freud  
"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2JqdnU9gzu0zabzeRVn-2A [at] comcast.com...
> "Medicine Hat" <jesus [at] you.me> wrote in message
> news:5lg3i1hfn6bs8gmfj8i8ntqp2ucje64b7v [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:55:53 -0700, "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>>>> "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't want
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>>>>>brilliantly.
>>>>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>>> fitting.
>>>>>> It'd be like saying:
>>>>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>>> Hear, hear!
>>>>> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor disappointment,
>>>>> not a major catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>> It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured
>>>> (one
>>>> seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>>>
>>>> That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>>>
>>>-- Dave
>>>http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the complete destruction of the Earth at the hands of
>> efficient bureaucrats funny?
>>
>> Is the demolition of an entire battle fleet with thousands of
>> soldiers funny? What if they are all killed by a small dog?
>>
>> Is xenophobic genocidal terrorism funny? What if it resembles
>> the game of cricket?
>>
>> Is if funny when someone hits you on the head for no apparent
>> reason and then runs away?
>>
>> Forward your indignation to DNA, if you can find him.
>>
>
> In its context, yes, of course it's funny.
>
> In this context of comparing not having liked a movie to a train wreck or
> a car collision, things which unfortunately happen on a continuous basis
> and some of us have witnessed all too often, unlike the far-flung
> fantasies of DNA's literature, it's not funny at all. It's whining, and
> again, it's unfortunately continuous even though it can be of absolutely
> no avail whatsoever. The movie is made. If you didn't like it, tough.
>
> Thank you for your suggestion on what to do with my indignation. You may
> take your own indignant response, print it out, roll it into a nice thin
> tube and insert it anywhere you think it will fit. Share and enjoy.
>

Lighten up, people. Didn't Ford himself describe Vogons to Arthur as having
"all the sex appeal of a road accident"? Humour often offends and often
that's what makes it funny. If you go through life never risking offending
anyone then I think you'd miss out on a great deal.
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129732 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 05:07
Frankymole  
Kenny Hutchings wrote:
> In article <df7kl6$cnn$1 [at] news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com says...
>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>> Anorak wrote:
>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>
>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>> added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>> brilliantly.
>>
>> It was a train wreck.
>>
>>
>
> Let's not start this again. Really. I am positively sick of arguments
> about how good or not good the movie was.
>
> K.

Perhaps a discussion group is not the best place to hang out, then.
--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129733 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 05:08
Frankymole  
John Coxon wrote:
> On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>
>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>> Anorak wrote:
>>>
>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>
>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>> added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>> brilliantly.
>>
>> It was a train wreck.
>
> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
> fitting.
> It'd be like saying:
>
> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>
> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.

It's not an analogy. It's a figure of speech.
--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129734 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 05:11
Frankymole  
Medicine Hat wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:55:53 -0700, "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Freakstone" <cfreestone [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3o635iF4eifkU1 [at] individual.net...
>>> "Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Y-udnczZtOkGPIHeRVn-3Q [at] comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>>>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot
>>>>>>> they added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>>>> brilliantly.
>>>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>> fitting.
>>>>> It'd be like saying:
>>>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>> Hear, hear!
>>>> A movie that didn't live up to expectations is a minor
>>>> disappointment, not a major catastrophe.
>>>
>>> It was a 3 car pile up on the M4 in which seven people were injured
>>> (one seriously), noone died and no kids were involved.
>>>
>>> That's possibly closer to the mark.
>>>
>>
>> Nope. Still not even vaguely funny.
>>
>> -- Dave
>> http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> Is the complete destruction of the Earth at the hands of
> efficient bureaucrats funny?
>
> Is the demolition of an entire battle fleet with thousands of
> soldiers funny? What if they are all killed by a small dog?
>
> Is xenophobic genocidal terrorism funny? What if it resembles
> the game of cricket?
>
> Is if funny when someone hits you on the head for no apparent
> reason and then runs away?


Life is funny. Life and death are funny - often frustrating, miserable or
ridiculous - often all 3 at once. Douglas Adams knew what "ridiculous"
really meant (open to ridicule) and all his comedy writing from school on up
was pointing out how odd and funny life (yes, and the Universe and
everything) is. I miss him.

> Forward your indignation to DNA, if you can find him.
>
> -- Meds

--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129739 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 12:03
John Coxon  
On 10/09/2005 04:08, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Frankymole spewed up:

> John Coxon wrote:
>
>>On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>
>>>"Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>>
>>>>Anorak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>>>want to waste five dollars!
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>
>>>>It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>>added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>brilliantly.
>>>
>>>It was a train wreck.
>>
>>Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>fitting.
>>It'd be like saying:
>>
>>"It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>
>>Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>
> It's not an analogy. It's a figure of speech.

It is both.

--
John Coxon

Disc space - the final frontier!

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
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Re: I just have to ask... [message #129743 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 15:45
spam05  
"Frankymole" <ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Kenny Hutchings wrote:
>> In article <df7kl6$cnn$1 [at] news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
>> ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com says...
>>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> Anorak wrote:
>>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>
>>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot they
>>>> added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>> brilliantly.
>>>
>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Let's not start this again. Really. I am positively sick of arguments
>> about how good or not good the movie was.
>>
>> K.
>
> Perhaps a discussion group is not the best place to hang out, then.

But this has been discussed over and over again. I think most people
agree that we don't agree whether the movie was good or not.

Also, %afda id not solely a discussion group ;o)

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
The logical thing to do with an egg is cook it and eat it, but throwing
it at someone is much more fun.
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129745 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 16:50
Frankymole  
John Coxon wrote:
> On 10/09/2005 04:08, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>
>> John Coxon wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>>
>>>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>> Anorak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot
>>>>> they added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>> brilliantly.
>>>>
>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>
>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>> fitting.
>>> It'd be like saying:
>>>
>>> "It was two jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers."
>>>
>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>
>> It's not an analogy. It's a figure of speech.
>
> It is both.

I used it as a figure of speech (which it is). Clear?
--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129748 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 16:52
Frankymole  
Rasmus "Bøg" Hansen wrote:
> "Frankymole" <ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com> hit the keyboard.
> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> Kenny Hutchings wrote:
>>> In article <df7kl6$cnn$1 [at] news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
>>> ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com says...
>>>> "Alex Watson" <alexwatson [at] deadspam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4316f39b$0$4177$da0feed9 [at] news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>> Anorak wrote:
>>>>>> IS the movie worth seeing? I haven't seen it yet... I wouldn't
>>>>>> want to waste five dollars!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I hope everyone is well here. Are they?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was great fun. The book bits were great, the jokes and plot
>>>>> they added weren't so great but mostly stood up okay. It starts
>>>>> brilliantly.
>>>>
>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's not start this again. Really. I am positively sick of
>>> arguments about how good or not good the movie was.
>>>
>>> K.
>>
>> Perhaps a discussion group is not the best place to hang out, then.
>
> But this has been discussed over and over again. I think most people
> agree that we don't agree whether the movie was good or not.
>
> Also, %afda id not solely a discussion group ;o)
>
> /Rasmus

Not only but also.

No-one would seriously argue that this is a place where discussion of the
movie cannot take place. S'gonna happen, that's life.

--
Frankymole
Re: I just have to ask... [message #129749 ] Sa, 10 September 2005 17:20
spam05  
"Frankymole" <ask_for_it [at] on_the_group.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

>>>> Let's not start this again. Really. I am positively sick of
>>>> arguments about how good or not good the movie was.
>>>>
>>>> K.
>>>
>>> Perhaps a discussion group is not the best place to hang out, then.
>>
>> But this has been discussed over and over again. I think most people
>> agree that we don't agree whether the movie was good or not.
>>
>> Also, %afda id not solely a discussion group ;o)

> Not only but also.

Wasn't that what I said?

> No-one would seriously argue that this is a place where discussion of the
> movie cannot take place. S'gonna happen, that's life.

That is not really my point.

The movie's badness/goodness has been discussed over and over. Too
much to many people's taste.

There is not really a point in continuing discussing the same subject
if there are no new views on the topic - which there does not really
seem to be...

Of course the movie is on topic here - but isn't it about time to move
on and let be - at least for a while?

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
I suggest we nominate them for the only site to be slashdotted without
being linked from Slashdot.
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Re: I just have to ask... [message #129755 ] So, 11 September 2005 15:02
John Coxon  
On 10/09/2005 15:50, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious storms of
unreason and Frankymole spewed up:

> John Coxon wrote:
>
>>On 10/09/2005 04:08, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>
>>>John Coxon wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>>>storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>>>
>>>>>It was a train wreck.
>>>>
>>>>Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>fitting.
>>>>
>>>>Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>
>>>It's not an analogy. It's a figure of speech.
>>
>>It is both.
>
> I used it as a figure of speech (which it is). Clear?

From my RE AS-Level course:

"An analogy is a comparison made to show similarities."

If that wasn't a comparison between a train wreck and the film to show
similarities, what was it?

The figure of speech you used was an analogy. End of story. No more
questions on my use/knowledge of English are needed, thanks.

--
John Coxon

Disc space - the final frontier!

Email: john[dot]coxon[at]gmail[dot]com
Website: http://alphacentauri.8k.com
Missing footnotes: http://www.nut.house.cx/cgi-bin/nemowiki.pl?ISFN
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Re: I just have to ask... [message #129760 ] So, 11 September 2005 15:31
Frankymole  
John Coxon wrote:
> On 10/09/2005 15:50, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>
>> John Coxon wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/09/2005 04:08, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>>
>>>> John Coxon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/09/2005 20:26, five wild Event Maelstroms swirled in vicious
>>>>> storms of unreason and Frankymole spewed up:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a train wreck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of us don't find analogies about train wrecks funny, or even
>>>>> fitting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a good analogy. At all, ever.
>>>>
>>>> It's not an analogy. It's a figure of speech.
>>>
>>> It is both.
>>
>> I used it as a figure of speech (which it is). Clear?
>
> From my RE AS-Level course:
>
> "An analogy is a comparison made to show similarities."
>
> If that wasn't a comparison between a train wreck and the film to show
> similarities, what was it?
>
> The figure of speech you used was an analogy. End of story. No more
> questions on my use/knowledge of English are needed, thanks.

It was pants, then.

And a train wreck.
--
Frankymole
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