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Fantasy » alt.fan.tolkien » Tolkien Name
Tolkien Name [message #120039] So, 28 August 2005 16:09
ojevind.lang  
Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
born. Names from Tolkien do seem to become more common in RL all the
time; Bilbo is not that uncommon here in Sweden nowadays.

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120044 ] So, 28 August 2005 21:26
zip  
"Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote...

> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
> two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
> born. Names from Tolkien do seem to become more common in RL all the
> time; Bilbo is not that uncommon here in Sweden nowadays.

My Lady and I are naming our first girl Elanor.

Our first boy, whilst not a tolkien name, will be called Tjalfe.

-Paul.
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120045 ] So, 28 August 2005 22:21
matt  
Zip wrote:
> "Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote...
>
>
>>Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
>>two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
>>born. Names from Tolkien do seem to become more common in RL all the
>>time; Bilbo is not that uncommon here in Sweden nowadays.
>
>
> My Lady and I are naming our first girl Elanor.
>
> Our first boy, whilst not a tolkien name, will be called Tjalfe.
>
> -Paul.
>
>
Gothmog seems like a good name for a cat.
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120048 ] So, 28 August 2005 23:19
zip  
"fear&loafing" <matt [at] gwelvor.fsnet.co.uk> wrote

> > My Lady and I are naming our first girl Elanor.
> >
> > Our first boy, whilst not a tolkien name, will be called Tjalfe.
> >
> Gothmog seems like a good name for a cat.

Unbeatable, to say the least.

-Paul.
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120051 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 00:22
samdekat  
=D6jevind L=E5ng wrote:
> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
> two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel

For a second there I thought you said =DBdun...
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120052 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 00:31
Alan  
Sam's the little guy wrote:
> =D6jevind L=E5ng wrote:
> > Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
> > two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel
>
> For a second there I thought you said =DBdun...

I think the name is 'Udun'. The 'U' is right next to the 'I' on a
keyboard, y'know. Probably a slip of the finger.

If not, I hope the registrar doesn't make an unfortunate slip when
registering little Idun Jenny Galadriel!=20

Health and long life to her!
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120054 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 00:49
ojevind.lang  
Alan wrote:

>I think the name is 'Udun'. The 'U' is right next to the 'I' on a
keyboard, y'know. Probably a slip of the finger.

LOL!
Actually, Idun is the name of one of the female =C6sir - the pantheon
of the heathen Scandinavians before the Christian missionaries came.
She was the guardian of a tree with life-giving apples which she
plucked every day and gave to the gods so as to ensure their eternal
youth and immortality.
I think it's a good name. I was more surprised the other day when I
read an announcement that a little boy had been named Loke (the Swedish
form of Loki, the evil trickster who fooled the gods of Valhalla for a
long time before he was found out).

>If not, I hope the registrar doesn't make an unfortunate slip when
registering little Idun Jenny Galadriel!

Amen! :-D

>Health and long life to her!

Aye, indeed.

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120061 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 01:54
Flame of the West  
Öjevind Lång wrote:

> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
> two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
> born.

Do you think the Tolkien Estate and Saul Zanz
will really let them use it for free?


-- FotW

Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120063 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 02:22
Cheeze  
My wife is pregnant and her expected date of delivery is Sept. 22nd.

I wanted to name my kid Bilbo or Frodo, but my wife objects! :-)


=D6jevind L=E5ng wrote:
> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
> two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
> born. Names from Tolkien do seem to become more common in RL all the
> time; Bilbo is not that uncommon here in Sweden nowadays.
>=20
> =D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120071 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 04:02
OMeallyMD  
Cheeze wrote:
> My wife is pregnant and her expected date of delivery is Sept. 22nd.
>
> I wanted to name my kid Bilbo or Frodo, but my wife objects! :-)

Do your kid a favor and take a hint from Tolkien himself. His childrens'
names are: Priscilla, John, Michael & Christopher. Not a Frodo,
Galadriel or Gandalf in the bunch!
--
Bill

"Wise fool"
Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS
-- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120074 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 04:23
jwkenne  
Bill O'Meally wrote:
> Cheeze wrote:
>
>>My wife is pregnant and her expected date of delivery is Sept. 22nd.
>>
>>I wanted to name my kid Bilbo or Frodo, but my wife objects! :-)
>
>
> Do your kid a favor and take a hint from Tolkien himself. His childrens'
> names are: Priscilla, John, Michael & Christopher. Not a Frodo,
> Galadriel or Gandalf in the bunch!

As far as it goes, the children were all born before "The Hobbit", so
the argument doesn't really amount to much.

--
John W. Kennedy
Read the remains of Shakespeare's lost play, now annotated!
http://pws.prserv.net/jwkennedy/Double%20Falshood/index.html
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120075 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 05:05
Cheeze  
Bill O'Meally wrote:
> Cheeze wrote:
> > My wife is pregnant and her expected date of delivery is Sept. 22nd.
> >
> > I wanted to name my kid Bilbo or Frodo, but my wife objects! :-)
>
> Do your kid a favor and take a hint from Tolkien himself. His childrens'
> names are: Priscilla, John, Michael & Christopher. Not a Frodo,
> Galadriel or Gandalf in the bunch!
> --
> Bill
>
> "Wise fool"
> Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS
> -- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--

Well as always, my wife wins in our arguments. :-)
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120077 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 04:43
the softrat  
On 28 Aug 2005 15:49:10 -0700, "Öjevind Lång"
<ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote:
>
>Aye, indeed.
>
>Öjevind

Right up there with 'Satan Devil Smith'.
the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat [at] pobox.com
--
Mr Bullfrog says, "Time's fun, when you're having flies!"
Re: Tolkien Name [message #120078 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 05:39
pawn  
Öjevind Lång wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>
>>I think the name is 'Udun'. The 'U' is right next to the 'I' on a
>
> keyboard, y'know. Probably a slip of the finger.
>
> LOL!
> Actually, Idun is the name of one of the female Æsir - the pantheon
> of the heathen Scandinavians before the Christian missionaries came.
> She was the guardian of a tree with life-giving apples which she
> plucked every day and gave to the gods so as to ensure their eternal
> youth and immortality.
> I think it's a good name. I was more surprised the other day when I
> read an announcement that a little boy had been named Loke (the Swedish
> form of Loki, the evil trickster who fooled the gods of Valhalla for a
> long time before he was found out).
>

Or it could be a typo version of Ibun (the dwarf).
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121852 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 17:05
Speaking Clock  
Öjevind Lång wrote:
> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement
> by two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
> born.

Reminds of a story I heard about Terry Pratchett meeting a fan at a book
signing. He asked her name so that he could write it in the book, and she
told him it was "Galadriel". He said nothing but looked at her
sympathetically, and she acknowledged with a rueful smile that, yes, her
parents were Tolkien fans ...

I bet there are a lot of Arwens out there too, but somehow I wouldn't expect
to find many Aragorns or Celeborns. I wonder if Tolkien names are more
common for girls than for boys?
--
Speaking Clock
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121857 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 18:56
Morgan  
I have heard of a bilbo, a ex-hippy I know. I've also heard of a baby
being called frodo although I've forgotten where. I would suspect
there are more boys with tolkien names, wonder why that would be?
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121859 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 18:08
Derek Broughton  
Speaking Clock wrote:

> Öjevind Lång wrote:
>> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement
>> by two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
>> born.
>
> Reminds of a story I heard about Terry Pratchett meeting a fan at a book
> signing. He asked her name so that he could write it in the book, and she
> told him it was "Galadriel". He said nothing but looked at her
> sympathetically, and she acknowledged with a rueful smile that, yes, her
> parents were Tolkien fans ...
>
> I bet there are a lot of Arwens out there too, but somehow I wouldn't
> expect
> to find many Aragorns or Celeborns. I wonder if Tolkien names are more
> common for girls than for boys?

I'd be willing to bet that there's a huge number of late-60s/early-70s
children with tolkien-ish middle names.
--
derek
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121865 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 19:37
Smaug III  
I named my kid Wormtongue.

Well, I probably should have anyway.



"Öjevind Lång" <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote in message
news:1125238173.611313.180070 [at] f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
born. Names from Tolkien do seem to become more common in RL all the
time; Bilbo is not that uncommon here in Sweden nowadays.

Öjevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121869 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 19:49
Alabaster  
Hello,

Interesting, =D6jevind. I once saw a yacht in Florida named, "The Lady
Galadriel." I thought that was lovely. Never met a person with such a
name.

Gothmog is a perfect name for a cat.

I would recommend Grond for a dog, particularly a Rottweiler.

I think your idea of using the name Elanor for your child is simply
lovely, Paul. Best Wishes to you.


Regards,


Alabaster
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121883 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 22:00
ojevind.lang  
Flame of the West wrote:

>=D6jevind L=E5ng wrote:
>> Today, in the family pages of my newspaper, there is an announcement by
>> two proud parents that their daughter Idun Jenny Galadriel has been
>> born.

>Do you think the Tolkien Estate and Saul Zanz
>will really let them use it for free?

I am sure they'd love to ban the practice, but when it comes to giving
children names from Tolkien's works, they would be on iffy ground
anyway, and the question is moot since it is much too late now. There
are too many people in extistence with names inspired by Tolkien, like
the young woman called Galadriel that Speaking Clock mentioned. I know
of at least two grown up Swedes called Bilbo.
And of course, many of the names existed before Tolkien came around:
Gandalf is from the Edda, Frodo has existed in the form Frode in
Denmark for centuries, Balin can be found in Le Morte d'Arthur, Gimli
has been around as a given name for a long time, Beren was occasionally
used before Tolkien wrote the Sil, Elanor can be perceived as simply a
variant spelling of Eleanor, Morwen is a bona fide Welsh name, Rohan is
a French family name, and so on. Perhaps the Tolkien estate *could*
forbid people to call their children Gorbag or Snaga. Or Treebeard.
Thhough I doubt it.

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121884 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 22:27
ojevind.lang  
Stan Brown wrote:

><ojevind.l... [at] bredband.net> wrote:
>> Actually, Idun is the name of one of the female =C6sir - the pantheon
>>of the heathen Scandinavians before the Christian missionaries came.
>>She was the guardian of a tree with life-giving apples which she
>>plucked every day and gave to the gods so as to ensure their eternal
>>youth and immortality.

>Then who was Freya? Or did Wagner just do a Peter Jackson on the
myths and switch Idun's job over to Freya?

I'm rather shaky about the German pantheon; I only know that the Old
Norse one includes both Freja and Idun, but Freja's function was as
goddess of love and fertility and also, in some versions, as death
goddess, but only for heroes: half of the fallen heroes belonged to
her. The villains and cowards belonged to Hel, the goddess ruling over
the underworld of the same name. The latter name is of course identical
with the English "Hell".

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121885 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 22:28
Huan the hound  
On 2005-08-29, Alabaster <alabastermushroom [at] yahoo.com> wrote in <1125337778.867398.24320 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
[snip]
>
> I would recommend Grond for a dog, particularly a Rottweiler.
[snip]

Why Grond for a dog? Why not Garm or Rover? Or even Huan, if you can
tell your dog will turn out to be exceptionally strong, brave and wise! ;-)

--
Huan, the hound of Valinor
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121886 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 22:39
Alabaster  
Hello Huan,

Huan the hound wrote:

> Why Grond for a dog? Why not Garm or Rover? Or even Huan, if you can
> tell your dog will turn out to be exceptionally strong, brave and wise! ;-)

> Huan, the hound of Valinor


~chuckles

Please forgive me indeed, Huan. Of course what I should have said is
that Grond is good name for an EVIL dog...or perhaps rather, an evil
owner. ;-)

For a good dog and a good owner I could harldy think of a better
appellation than your own namesake of Huan.

Ooga booga

Please forgive me my lack of clarity, Noble Beast. :-)


Regards,


Alabaster


-----
May we all learn a life lesson from the Valar.
Do not be overkind to unrepentant villains.
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121887 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 22:54
Christopher Kreuzer  
Alabaster <alabastermushroom [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> Huan the hound wrote:
>
>> Why Grond for a dog? Why not Garm or Rover? Or even Huan, if you
>> can tell your dog will turn out to be exceptionally strong, brave
>> and wise! ;-)
>
> Please forgive me indeed, Huan. Of course what I should have said is
> that Grond is good name for an EVIL dog...or perhaps rather, an evil
> owner. ;-)

I prefer Carcharoth, myself.

> For a good dog and a good owner I could harldy think of a better
> appellation than your own namesake of Huan.

Other dog names in LotR include Grip, Fang and Wolf.
Can't think of any cat names.

> May we all learn a life lesson from the Valar.
> Do not be overkind to unrepentant villains.

How do you know a villain is unrepentant?
The Valar certainly didn't know this.

Christopher

--
---
Reply clue: Saruman welcomes you to Spamgard
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121889 ] Di, 30 August 2005 00:25
ojevind.lang  
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:

>Other dog names in LotR include Grip, Fang and Wolf.
>Can't think of any cat names.

In an early draft, Sauron was called Tevildo, Prince of Cats. There is
one little reminiscence of that in LotR. We are told that the pupil of
his eye was "slitted as that of a cat". I believe this is when Frodo
perceives the eye from the Hill of Seeing.

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121891 ] Di, 30 August 2005 00:42
the softrat  
On 29 Aug 2005 13:27:06 -0700, ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net wrote:

>Stan Brown wrote:
>
>><ojevind.l... [at] bredband.net> wrote:
>>> Actually, Idun is the name of one of the female Æsir - the pantheon
>>>of the heathen Scandinavians before the Christian missionaries came.
>>>She was the guardian of a tree with life-giving apples which she
>>>plucked every day and gave to the gods so as to ensure their eternal
>>>youth and immortality.
>
>>Then who was Freya? Or did Wagner just do a Peter Jackson on the
>myths and switch Idun's job over to Freya?
>
Yes. Wagner altered relationships to match *his* ideas.

>I'm rather shaky about the German pantheon; I only know that the Old
>Norse one includes both Freja and Idun, but Freja's function was as
>goddess of love and fertility and also, in some versions, as death
>goddess, but only for heroes: half of the fallen heroes belonged to
>her. The villains and cowards belonged to Hel, the goddess ruling over
>the underworld of the same name. The latter name is of course identical
>with the English "Hell".
>
>Öjevind

Yuh want the Short Course from the rat's perspective?

the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat [at] pobox.com
--
"This is all very interesting, and I daresay you already see me
frothing at the mouth in a fit; but no, I am not; I am just
winking happy thoughts into a little tiddle cup." (Nabokov,
Lolita)
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121892 ] Di, 30 August 2005 01:33
Christopher Kreuzer  
Öjevind Lång <ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote:
> Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
>
>> Other dog names in LotR include Grip, Fang and Wolf.
>> Can't think of any cat names.
>
> In an early draft, Sauron was called Tevildo, Prince of Cats. There is
> one little reminiscence of that in LotR. We are told that the pupil of
> his eye was "slitted as that of a cat". I believe this is when Frodo
> perceives the eye from the Hill of Seeing.

Galadriel's Mirror, and "yellow as":

"In the black abyss there appeared a single Eye that slowly grew until
it filled nearly all the Mirror [...] The Eye was rimmed with fire, but
was itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black
slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing." (The Mirror
of Galadriel)

Christopher

--
---
Reply clue: Saruman welcomes you to Spamgard
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121895 ] Di, 30 August 2005 03:51
Alabaster  
Hello Christopher,


Christopher Kreuzer wrote:

> I prefer Carcharoth, myself.


Worthy...but potentially challenging. "Here Carcharoth, here
Carcharoth."

That world's ugliest dog should be so named. http://samugliestdog.com/

Ooga booga


> Other dog names in LotR include Grip, Fang and Wolf.


Yes, Farmer Cotton's good dogs.

Excellent names.

"Grip" and "Fang" would be great names for huskies in my opinion.
"Wolf" too, but kind of obvious.


> > May we all learn a life lesson from the Valar.
> > Do not be overkind to unrepentant villains.


> How do you know a villain is unrepentant?
> The Valar certainly didn't know this.


"Hard to see the Dark Side is."--Master Yoda, Star Wars, Episode 1

A good question. You would have to study your villain and his or her
Way very closely.

Yes, the Valar did NOT know this. And because of it their World was
rent asunder time and again and marred finally for All Time. Perhaps
certain villains or certain crimes do not warrant second chances.
Maybe this is one of the lessons of Tolkien's Saga. Should Melkor have
been granted so many reprieves? Sauron? Grima and Saruman? What did
they do with their pardons?

If we ourselves should ever face a similar Foe, let us not be foolish
about his ambitions.


Regards,


Alabaster
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121896 ] Di, 30 August 2005 04:13
Huan the hound  
On 2005-08-29, Christopher Kreuzer <spamgard [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
<RBKQe.98687$G8.69287 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Alabaster <alabastermushroom [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Huan the hound wrote:
>>
>>> Why Grond for a dog? Why not Garm or Rover? Or even Huan, if you
>>> can tell your dog will turn out to be exceptionally strong, brave
>>> and wise! ;-)
>>
>> Please forgive me indeed, Huan. Of course what I should have said is
>> that Grond is good name for an EVIL dog...or perhaps rather, an evil
>> owner. ;-)
>
> I prefer Carcharoth, myself.

So we've noticed. :-) I think Garm is a pretty good example of dog behavior!

>
>> For a good dog and a good owner I could harldy think of a better
>> appellation than your own namesake of Huan.
>
> Other dog names in LotR include Grip, Fang and Wolf.
> Can't think of any cat names.

Wow, I can't believe I forgot those three!
You could name a cat after the Queen who had cats... anyway cats have
strong personalities so it could be matched to a character it
resembles.

[snip]
--
Huan, the hound of Valinor
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121897 ] Di, 30 August 2005 04:22
OMeallyMD  
John W. Kennedy wrote:

> As far as it goes, the children were all born before "The Hobbit", so
> the argument doesn't really amount to much.

I think you missed the point, but I'll rephrase it for you:

Not an Earendil, Feanor or Galadriel (who predates TH as you know) in
the bunch.

--
Bill

"Wise fool"
Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS
-- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121898 ] Di, 30 August 2005 05:28
danhenry  
On 29 Aug 2005 13:00:56 -0700, "Öjevind Lång"
<ojevind.lang [at] bredband.net> wrote:

>Perhaps the Tolkien estate *could*
>forbid people to call their children Gorbag or Snaga.

I only call them "Snaga" if they're late doing their chores. [1]

[1] Joke! I have no children. I only have a cat. Naturally, he has no
chores.

--
R. Dan Henry
danhenry [at] inreach.com
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121899 ] Di, 30 August 2005 05:29
danhenry  
On 29 Aug 2005 13:39:30 -0700, "Alabaster" <alabastermushroom [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hello Huan,
>
>Huan the hound wrote:
>
>> Why Grond for a dog? Why not Garm or Rover? Or even Huan, if you can
>> tell your dog will turn out to be exceptionally strong, brave and wise! ;-)
>
>> Huan, the hound of Valinor

>Please forgive me indeed, Huan. Of course what I should have said is
>that Grond is good name for an EVIL dog...or perhaps rather, an evil
>owner. ;-)

No, Grond is ideally suited as a pet name for one's penis. That's really
all it's good for.

>For a good dog and a good owner I could harldy think of a better
>appellation than your own namesake of Huan.

That's right. Huan for dogs, Tevildo for cats, lots of choices for
birds... Bill for ponies, several good horse names, reptiles could be
names after dragons.

--
R. Dan Henry
danhenry [at] inreach.com
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121924 ] Di, 30 August 2005 15:00
OMeallyMD  
Cheeze wrote:

> Well as always, my wife wins in our arguments. :-)

Smart man. ;-)
--
Bill

"Wise fool"
Gandalf, THE TWO TOWERS
-- The Wise will remove 'se' to reply; the Foolish will not--
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121928 ] Di, 30 August 2005 15:33
ojevind.lang  
R=2E Dan Henry wrote:

>[1] Joke! I have no children. I only have a cat. Naturally, he has no
chores.=20

Is your cat called Tevildo? Good cat name, that.

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121929 ] Di, 30 August 2005 15:37
ojevind.lang  
The softrat wrote:

>Yuh want the Short Course from the rat's perspective?=20

Sure!

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121931 ] Di, 30 August 2005 15:40
ojevind.lang  
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:

>Galadriel's Mirror, and "yellow as":

>"In the black abyss there appeared a single Eye that slowly grew until
it filled nearly all the Mirror [...] The Eye was rimmed with fire, but

was itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the
black
slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing." (The Mirror
of Galadriel)

You are quite right, of course - thanks! BTW, I only just now noticed
that one of the names given for Farmer Maggot's dogs is wrong. It's
Warg, not Wolf. Meaning the same thing, of course (Swedish "varg" means
"wolf" to this day).

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121937 ] Di, 30 August 2005 16:15
Alabaster  
Hello Dan,


R. Dan Henry wrote:


> No, Grond is ideally suited as a pet name for one's penis. That's really
> all it's good for.


Again, I would say that Grond would only be a good name for an EVIL
penis, or an evil penis-holder. :)

....

Naming your child Gorbag...indeed...someone SHOULD object to this.


Ooga Booga


Alabaster
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121951 ] Di, 30 August 2005 20:50
Stan Brown  
In article <1125409247.869893.13430 [at] g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,=20
=D6jevind L=E5ng favored us with...
> BTW, I only just now noticed
> that one of the names given for Farmer Maggot's dogs is wrong. It's
> Warg, not Wolf. Meaning the same thing, of course (Swedish "varg" means
> "wolf" to this day).

In my one-volume centennial edition they're listed as Grip, Fang, and=20
Wolf. Are you saying your edition shows one as Warg? Is it a Swedish=20
or an English edition?

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Re: Tolkien Name [message #121953 ] Di, 30 August 2005 21:24
ojevind.lang  
Stan Brown wrote:

>In my one-volume centennial edition they're listed as Grip, Fang, and
Wolf. Are you saying your edition shows one as Warg? Is it a Swedish
or an English edition?

D'uh. Of course you are right. I seem to have confused the English
version with the Swedish ones, which I very seldom consult. In both the
old one by Ohlmarks and the recent one by Erik Andersson, Wolf is
called Varg. Though Ohlmarks left the names Grip and Fang untranslated
(they sound quite good in Swedish too) whereas Andersson has given them
the Swedish names Klo ("Claw") and Gadd ("Fang").

=D6jevind
Re: Tolkien Name [message #121955 ] Di, 30 August 2005 21:55
Christopher Kreuzer  
Huan the hound <huanthehound [at] netscape.net> wrote:

<snip>

> You could name a cat after the Queen who had cats...

Beruthiel.

> anyway cats have strong personalities so it could be matched to a
> character it resembles.

I would find two cats of suitable temperament, and call one Shelob, and
the other one Sauron.

Christopher

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