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DVD on sale [message #111721] Mi, 17 August 2005 00:53
Steve Marshall  
Noticed this in a email from Amazon with their latest offers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007TFIMY/202-8936 230-3941434


Steve M
Re: DVD on sale [message #111724 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 18:43
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: DVD on sale [message #111725 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 18:54
Pink Freud  
"Kenny Hutchings" <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d6d798d6241c3cb9896d2 [at] news.plus.net...
> In article <43026d49$0$1293$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>,
> sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com says...
>> Noticed this in a email from Amazon with their latest offers.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007TFIMY/202-8936 230-3941434
>>
>>
>> Steve M
>>
>
> Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
> can't really see what they have in common..
>
> K.


Perhaps if you take a more holistic view. :Op
Re: DVD on sale [message #111730 ] Mi, 17 August 2005 22:54
pippa.moran  
Kenny Hutchings said:

>
> Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
> can't really see what they have in common..
>

Isn't it obvious? They both end with the letter "y".
Re: DVD on sale [message #111732 ] Do, 18 August 2005 09:01
backwards.moc.senrocw  
"Pink Freud" <wotsayyou [at] here.com> wrote in message
news:ddvq4s$85g$1 [at] nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "Kenny Hutchings" <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1d6d798d6241c3cb9896d2 [at] news.plus.net...
>> In article <43026d49$0$1293$ed2619ec [at] ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>,
>> sdm [at] atmosBlockA.plus.com says...
>>> Noticed this in a email from Amazon with their latest offers.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007TFIMY/202-8936 230-3941434
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve M
>>>
>>
>> Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
>> can't really see what they have in common..
>>
>> K.
>
>
> Perhaps if you take a more holistic view. :Op

They're actually very similar. They both come in a rectangular box, and
they're both on a shiny disc.

It's only the contents of the disc that's wholly different, and you can't
tell unless you're close (what scientists call 'very close') to the disc's
surface.

A.
Re: DVD on sale [message #111733 ] Do, 18 August 2005 13:45
Wolfgang Krietsch  
Steve Marshall wrote:

>Noticed this in a email from Amazon with their latest offers.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007TFIMY/202-8936 230-3941434

Same price as at play.com, where S&H ist included.

Bye

woffi

--
Ich kann mit einem Eierlöffel Fledermäuse töten
- John Cleese
Re: DVD on sale [message #111754 ] Sa, 20 August 2005 23:39
SARAH JENKIN  
or some Non-prescription drugs...

> > Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
> > can't really see what they have in common..
> >
> > K.
>
>
> Perhaps if you take a more holistic view. :Op
Re: DVD on sale [message #111756 ] So, 21 August 2005 02:50
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: DVD on sale [message #111758 ] So, 21 August 2005 09:51
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Kenny Hutchings wrote:
> In article <oqNNe.6917$jr4.31 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> mossymermaid [at] blueyonder.co.uk says...
>
>>>>Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
>>>>can't really see what they have in common..
>>>>
>>>>K.
>>>
>>>
>>>Perhaps if you take a more holistic view. :Op
>>
>>or some Non-prescription drugs...
>>
>
>
> I've yet to need to take drugs to understand something. I take drugs
> because the world doesn't yet understand me, but they're prescription
> and that's beside the point anyway. :)

Well, we'd better start teaching the world, then!

World, this is Kenny. Kenny, this is world. Now get to know eachother!

Best
Kåre
Re: DVD on sale [message #115615 ] Di, 23 August 2005 15:30
spam05  
Kaare Fiedler Christiansen <news [at] kaarefc.dk> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Kenny Hutchings wrote:
>> In article <oqNNe.6917$jr4.31 [at] fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> mossymermaid [at] blueyonder.co.uk says...
>>
>>>>>Erm, can anyone explain why Sin City is listed as a perfect partner? I
>>>>>can't really see what they have in common..
>>>>>
>>>>>K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps if you take a more holistic view. :Op
>>>
>>>or some Non-prescription drugs...
>>>
>> I've yet to need to take drugs to understand something. I take drugs
>> because the world doesn't yet understand me, but they're
>> prescription and that's beside the point anyway. :)
>
> Well, we'd better start teaching the world, then!
>
> World, this is Kenny. Kenny, this is world. Now get to know eachother!

World, Kenny - you want a cup of tea to chat over?

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most.
- Ozzy Osbourne
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: DVD on sale [message #115623 ] Di, 23 August 2005 20:43
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: DVD on sale [message #115627 ] Di, 23 August 2005 23:32
spam05  
Kenny Hutchings <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

>> > World, this is Kenny. Kenny, this is world. Now get to know eachother!
>>
>> World, Kenny - you want a cup of tea to chat over?
>>
>
> Getting the World a cup of tea would require a kettle the size of
> Mercury. Maybe you could make it more efficient by getting Uncle Lloyd
> to make a thermonuclear kettle, thus reducing the boiling time from
> several million years to a few nanoseconds. The only minor drawback
> would be the contaminated and highly radioactive H2O that would result,
> which might detract from the flavour of the tea a little bit. And
> sacrificing your children's health and mutation-free existence over a
> cup of tea just to get a bit closer to me isn't a particularly noble
> thing to do, either.

Oh. I'll have to think about it then. There must be some way to make a
cup of tea for World without all that mess.

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
There are three kinds of lies:
lies, politics and statistics.
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: DVD on sale [message #117118 ] Mi, 24 August 2005 13:14
pippa.moran  
Kenny Hutchings said:

>
> Getting the World a cup of tea would require a kettle the size of
> Mercury.

Would it be be easier just to hollow out Mercury and use it as a kettle.
After all, it's close to the sun and already hot enough to boil the
water without any other power source. Just think of all the energy we'd
save.

Yes, it might work. I'll just pop over there and hollow it out for you.

(gets spade)

(goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
Re: DVD on sale [message #117122 ] Mi, 24 August 2005 17:00
Dave Adalian  
"Rasmus "Bøg" Hansen" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
news:8764tw49wd.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...
>
> Oh. I'll have to think about it then. There must be some way to make a
> cup of tea for World without all that mess.
>


Probably best to use some kind of distributed tea processing technology
[TM].

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: DVD on sale [message #117123 ] Mi, 24 August 2005 23:57
Notifier Deamon  
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Re: DVD on sale [message #117128 ] Do, 25 August 2005 09:22
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Re: DVD on sale [message #118692 ] Sa, 27 August 2005 16:36
pippa.moran  
Kenny Hutchings wrote:
> In article <430c56d2_3 [at] mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> pippa.moran [at] gmail.com says...
> >
> > Would it be be easier just to hollow out Mercury and use it as a kettle?
> >
> > I'll just pop over there and hollow it out for you.
> >
> > (gets spade)
> >
> > (goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
> > passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
> >
>
> Before you go you might want to pack the factor 4000.
>

No need. When the teaser sees that I've got my towel, he'll be only
too happy to replace any factor 4000, space suit, etc. that I've
"lost".
Re: DVD on sale [message #120777 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 16:48
malte  
Kenny Hutchings <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> wrote:

> In article <430c56d2_3 [at] mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> pippa.moran [at] gmail.com says...
> > Kenny Hutchings said:
> >
> > >
> > > Getting the World a cup of tea would require a kettle the size of
> > > Mercury.
> >
> > Would it be be easier just to hollow out Mercury and use it as a kettle.
> > After all, it's close to the sun and already hot enough to boil the
> > water without any other power source. Just think of all the energy we'd
> > save.
> >
> > Yes, it might work. I'll just pop over there and hollow it out for you.
> >
> > (gets spade)
> >
> > (goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
> > passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
> >
>
> Before you go you might want to pack the factor 4000.
>

What the hell's that?!

--
the current message was most likely written offline,
so it may be a bit out of date...
Re: DVD on sale [message #120786 ] Mo, 29 August 2005 23:55
spam05  
malte [at] forstat.com (Malte) hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Kenny Hutchings <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <430c56d2_3 [at] mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
>> pippa.moran [at] gmail.com says...
>> > Kenny Hutchings said:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Getting the World a cup of tea would require a kettle the size of
>> > > Mercury.
>> >
>> > Would it be be easier just to hollow out Mercury and use it as a kettle.
>> > After all, it's close to the sun and already hot enough to boil the
>> > water without any other power source. Just think of all the energy we'd
>> > save.
>> >
>> > Yes, it might work. I'll just pop over there and hollow it out for you.
>> >
>> > (gets spade)
>> >
>> > (goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
>> > passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
>> >
>>
>> Before you go you might want to pack the factor 4000.
>>
>
> What the hell's that?!

I think he is talking about sunscreen lotion. After all Mercury is
rather close to the sun and an awful lot of it's non-existing
atmosphere is almost but not entirely unlike an ozone layer...

Of course, real men don't use sunscreen...

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
I'm gonna wear some fake disguise.
-- Mick Jagger
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: DVD on sale [message #120789 ] Di, 30 August 2005 00:34
Dave Adalian  
"Rasmus "Bøg" Hansen" <spam05 [at] zz9.dk> wrote in message
news:87u0h8if1f.fsf [at] grignard.amagerkollegiet.dk...
> malte [at] forstat.com (Malte) hit the keyboard.
> Afterwards the following was on the screen:
>
>> Kenny Hutchings <askmenicely [at] dodgeit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <430c56d2_3 [at] mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
>>> pippa.moran [at] gmail.com says...
>>> > Kenny Hutchings said:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Getting the World a cup of tea would require a kettle the size of
>>> > > Mercury.
>>> >
>>> > Would it be be easier just to hollow out Mercury and use it as a
>>> > kettle.
>>> > After all, it's close to the sun and already hot enough to boil the
>>> > water without any other power source. Just think of all the energy
>>> > we'd
>>> > save.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, it might work. I'll just pop over there and hollow it out for
>>> > you.
>>> >
>>> > (gets spade)
>>> >
>>> > (goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
>>> > passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
>>> >
>>>
>>> Before you go you might want to pack the factor 4000.
>>>
>>
>> What the hell's that?!
>
> I think he is talking about sunscreen lotion. After all Mercury is
> rather close to the sun and an awful lot of it's non-existing
> atmosphere is almost but not entirely unlike an ozone layer...
>
> Of course, real men don't use sunscreen...
>

It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on. Mercury,
like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per orbit and
always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's orbiting the
source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side and a lighted
side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side, both of which
have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: DVD on sale [message #120791 ] Di, 30 August 2005 01:04
spam05  
"Dave Adalian" <dpalta [at] comcast.net> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

>>>> > (goes and stands in garden, waving towel in the air to flag down any
>>>> > passing spacecraft and hitch a lift to Mercury)
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Before you go you might want to pack the factor 4000.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What the hell's that?!
>>
>> I think he is talking about sunscreen lotion. After all Mercury is
>> rather close to the sun and an awful lot of it's non-existing
>> atmosphere is almost but not entirely unlike an ozone layer...
>>
>> Of course, real men don't use sunscreen...
>>
>
> It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on. Mercury,
> like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per orbit and
> always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's orbiting the
> source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side and a lighted
> side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side, both of which
> have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.

Of course, I forgot.

Still, shouldn't the cavity have it's opening directed at the sun to
be able to be heated enough for tea use?

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
The logical thing to do with an egg is cook it and eat it, but throwing
it at someone is much more fun.
----------------------------------------------[ moffe at zz9 dot dk ] --
Re: DVD on sale [message #120807 ] Di, 30 August 2005 21:31
afda  
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
<dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:

>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on. Mercury,
>like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per orbit and
>always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's orbiting the
>source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side and a lighted
>side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side, both of which
>have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.

Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
along the lines of:

"That was back before we found out that the assumption that
Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"

Or something of that sort of nature, which surprised me somewhat
because prior to that I'd been under the understanding that Mercury
was "more or less" tide-locked, but with a slight wiggle (or something
like that) which meant there's a band around the light/dark terminator
that varies a bit. ish.

>-- Dave
>http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/

I realise you're an astromoner[4], and so what's the dig on the
current understanding of Mercury relative to the Sun?

Lloyd

[3] Not actually that hard to achieve.

[4] Comedy typo for comedy effect. No offence intended.
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: DVD on sale [message #120812 ] Di, 30 August 2005 23:47
Kaare Fiedler Christi  
Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on. Mercury,
>>like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per orbit and
>>always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's orbiting the
>>source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side and a lighted
>>side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side, both of which
>>have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.
>
>
> Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
> by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
> planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
> along the lines of:
>
> "That was back before we found out that the assumption that
> Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"

Ah, so you've been reading Asimov too, eh? :-)

Funny thing is I thought of the exact same thing (assuming you were
thinking of Asimov) but was too vague in my memory to pull it to
attention. I think it's from one of the Lucky Starr thingies?

Best
Kåre
Re: DVD on sale [message #120819 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 18:36
Dave Adalian  
"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
news:4314d409$0$42224$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
> Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
>> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on.
>>>Mercury, like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per
>>>orbit and always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's
>>>orbiting the source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side
>>>and a lighted side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side,
>>>both of which have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.
>>
>>
>> Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
>> by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
>> planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
>> along the lines of:
>>
>> "That was back before we found out that the assumption that
>> Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"
>
> Ah, so you've been reading Asimov too, eh? :-)
>
> Funny thing is I thought of the exact same thing (assuming you were
> thinking of Asimov) but was too vague in my memory to pull it to
> attention. I think it's from one of the Lucky Starr thingies?
>

Cool. I've learned something new. Mercury is in tidal lock, but not at a
1:1 ratio. It's orbital ratio is 2:3, but this wasn't discovered initially
because the planet is always in the same orientation when it is best
positioned for optical observation. Radar imaging set the record straight,
and did it nearly 40 years ago. The old information is so entrenched the
truth hasn't been widely reported. There's a good article on the subject at
Wikipedia.

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: DVD on sale [message #120826 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 21:11
afda  
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:36:13 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
<dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:

>"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
>news:4314d409$0$42224$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>> Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
>>> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on.
>>>>Mercury, like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per
>>>>orbit and always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's
>>>>orbiting the source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side
>>>>and a lighted side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side,
>>>>both of which have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.
>>>
>>> Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
>>> by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
>>> planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
>>> along the lines of:
>>>
>>> "That was back before we found out that the assumption that
>>> Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"
>>
>> Ah, so you've been reading Asimov too, eh? :-)
>>
>> Funny thing is I thought of the exact same thing (assuming you were
>> thinking of Asimov) but was too vague in my memory to pull it to
>> attention. I think it's from one of the Lucky Starr thingies?
>
>Cool. I've learned something new.

Hurrah!

>Mercury is in tidal lock, but not at a
>1:1 ratio. It's orbital ratio is 2:3, but this wasn't discovered initially
>because the planet is always in the same orientation when it is best
>positioned for optical observation.

Cool. Er.. What's an orbital ratio of 2:3 mean? It does 2 revolutions
about its own axis for every 3 laps of the Sun?

>Radar imaging set the record straight,
>and did it nearly 40 years ago.

As coincidence would have it, I'm reading a book at the minute that's
about the history of astronomy and cosmology[3]. I bet the next
chapter will have this in it.

>The old information is so entrenched the
>truth hasn't been widely reported. There's a good article on the subject at
>Wikipedia.

Good ol' Wikipedia. I'll have to give that a look-see tomorrow at work
too.

Cheers,

Lloyd

[3] "Big Bang" by Simon Singh
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: DVD on sale [message #120828 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 21:11
afda  
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:47:53 +0200, Kaare Fiedler Christiansen
<news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote:

>Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
>> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on. Mercury,
>>>like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once per orbit and
>>>always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since Mercury's orbiting the
>>>source of light in our system, there actually is a dark side and a lighted
>>>side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near side, both of which
>>>have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.
>>
>>
>> Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
>> by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
>> planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
>> along the lines of:
>>
>> "That was back before we found out that the assumption that
>> Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"
>
>Ah, so you've been reading Asimov too, eh? :-)

Strangely, no. I've been reading the blog and rec.arts.sf.written
postings of James Nicoll:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_nicoll/

>Funny thing is I thought of the exact same thing (assuming you were
>thinking of Asimov) but was too vague in my memory to pull it to
>attention. I think it's from one of the Lucky Starr thingies?

Well, given that Mr Nicoll's profession is (sort of) "Professional
Science Fiction and Fantasy Book Reviewer" (or something like that),
it's a possibility that he got it from Asimov, or indeed that he and
Asimov got it from the same source.

Lloyd
--
"In fact, everything between 'herring' and 'marmalade'
appears to be missing" -- Svlad Cjelli
Re: DVD on sale [message #120829 ] Mi, 31 August 2005 21:29
Dave Adalian  
"Lloyd Gilbert" <afda [at] zanoop.org.uk.invalid> wrote in message
news:8ktbh1l5h9nofmj8dbbeaijniic8ka3t44 [at] 4ax.com...
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:36:13 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>"Kaare Fiedler Christiansen" <news [at] kaarefc.dk> wrote in message
>>news:4314d409$0$42224$edfadb0f [at] dread16.news.tele.dk...
>>> Lloyd Gilbert wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:34:14 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
>>>> <dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It really depends which side of planet you're planning to work on.
>>>>>Mercury, like Earth's moon, is in tidal lock, meaning it rotates once
>>>>>per
>>>>>orbit and always has the same hemisphere facing the Sun. Since
>>>>>Mercury's
>>>>>orbiting the source of light in our system, there actually is a dark
>>>>>side
>>>>>and a lighted side, unlike the Moon which has a far side and a near
>>>>>side,
>>>>>both of which have 28.5-Earth-day days and similarly long nights.
>>>>
>>>> Is that really the case? I recall reading something somewhere recently
>>>> by someone I generally consider to know a lot more about astronomy and
>>>> planet-type science than I [3], that said something kinda vaguely
>>>> along the lines of:
>>>>
>>>> "That was back before we found out that the assumption that
>>>> Mercury was tide-locked to the Sun was wrong"
>>>
>>> Ah, so you've been reading Asimov too, eh? :-)
>>>
>>> Funny thing is I thought of the exact same thing (assuming you were
>>> thinking of Asimov) but was too vague in my memory to pull it to
>>> attention. I think it's from one of the Lucky Starr thingies?
>>
>>Cool. I've learned something new.
>
> Hurrah!
>
>>Mercury is in tidal lock, but not at a
>>1:1 ratio. It's orbital ratio is 2:3, but this wasn't discovered
>>initially
>>because the planet is always in the same orientation when it is best
>>positioned for optical observation.
>
> Cool. Er.. What's an orbital ratio of 2:3 mean? It does 2 revolutions
> about its own axis for every 3 laps of the Sun?
>
>>Radar imaging set the record straight,
>>and did it nearly 40 years ago.
>
> As coincidence would have it, I'm reading a book at the minute that's
> about the history of astronomy and cosmology[3]. I bet the next
> chapter will have this in it.
>
>>The old information is so entrenched the
>>truth hasn't been widely reported. There's a good article on the subject
>>at
>>Wikipedia.
>
> Good ol' Wikipedia. I'll have to give that a look-see tomorrow at work
> too.
>

I probably should have expressed it as "a 3:2 spin-orbit resonance," which
means it rotates on its axis three times for ever two orbits around the Sun.

The Wikipedia article on Mercury is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28planet%29

And an article on tidal lock is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_lock

-- Dave
http://starry-starry-nights.blogspot.com/
Re: DVD on sale [message #120850 ] Do, 01 September 2005 20:46
afda  
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:29:59 -0700, "Dave Adalian"
<dpalta [at] comcast.net> wrote:

[Massive Snip re:Mercury and its not-actually-being-1:1-tidelocked
with the Sun]

>I probably should have expressed it as "a 3:2 spin-orbit resonance," which
>means it rotates on its axis three times for ever two orbits around the Sun.

Ah, cool! Thanks.

>The Wikipedia article on Mercury is here:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28planet%29
>
>And an article on tidal lock is here:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_lock

Cheers,
Lloyd
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