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Science Fiction » alt.startrek » Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2
| Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78403] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 08:44 |
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I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78418 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 14:07 |
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These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
--
Jim Phillips, jay pee aitch eye el el eye pee at bee see pee ell dot net
"The only reason my wife and I got married in the first place was because
it was something gays couldn't do. Our wedding was conceived entirely as a
giant homosexual taunt. But now the vows I made to my wife seem as shallow
and empty as the vows I made to my three previous wives."
-- Stephen Colbert, Senior Moral Authority, "The Daily Show"
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78430 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 17:03 |
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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:19 -0700, "John Shocked"
<jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
Snipped boring stuff.
People like you will find menice in their own shadow.
Doctor Who had many more homosexual references and they weren't
cloaked in the least, that's if you buy what you said, which I don't.
Get a grip on yourself... or don't...
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78452 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 20:19 |
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"John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in
news:9L2Be.29494$Qo.3884 [at] fed1read01:
> Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication
> was that she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual".
Wha?? Huh?? How is that the "obvious implication?" That's like stating that
when Richard Nixon said, "I am not a crook," that the implication was that
HE was about to say "I am not a homosexual." The conclusion cannot be drawn
logically from the premise.
Then againm logic was never your strong suit, was it numbnuts?
--
Rick
Visit the Entropy Productions homepage at
http://www.kringlecityconspiracy.com/entropy.htm
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78454 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 21:02 |
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"Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
> These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
> surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
=================================================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78456 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 21:08 |
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<nuttzy [at] gmail.com> wrote in message news:1121262711.802573.275490 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> So John, to summarize, you're saying you're gay, right? That explains
> your fixation on the topic.
This is a common habit of Hollywood Homosexuals. Accuse falsely people who
disagree with them, like J. Edgar Hoover and Alexander The Great of being
homosexuals.
Politics
=======================================================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78466 ] |
Mi, 13 Juli 2005 22:59 |
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<firelock_ny [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1121280177.927278.188770 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The Bronze wrote:
>> Thanks for the tip-off mate. I couldn't be bothered reading through
>> your entire post, since I'm not actually a loony, but if there is a
>> homosexual theme running through the series I'll tune in next time.
>> I love homosexuality, it's my favorite!
> So does John Shocked, apparently. However, he only
> has about one message to say about it, and he repeats
> it endlessly.
> Walt Smith
The Sodomy in science fiction series like BSG has damaged the ratings of these
series and science fiction has become a fringe TV genre instead of the dominant
genre it was when Star Trek: The Next Generation was on TV and was the
3rd rated show in the whole country with a 13 rating.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78477 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 02:48 |
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"John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tzdBe.29552$Qo.40 [at] fed1read01...
> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
>> These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
>> surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
>
> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
How does one prove you wrong when you see things in Battlestar Galactica
that no one else does?
tim gueguen 101867
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78478 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 03:42 |
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"tim gueguen" <tgueguen [at] shaw.ca> wrote in message news:7DiBe.1952529$6l.183287 [at] pd7tw2no...
> "John Shocked" <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tzdBe.29552$Qo.40 [at] fed1read01...
>> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
>>> These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
>>> surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
>> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
> How does one prove you wrong when you see things in Battlestar Galactica that no one else does?
> tim gueguen 101867
False. Saturday Night Live has seen the same things. TV Guide has seen the same things.
This is simply a false statement.
Politics
================================================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78484 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 05:10 |
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"Framester" <chrisframe1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h6bad1hpo7s3ejcndnnl8puj9ooht49vib [at] 4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:19 -0700, "John Shocked"
> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> Snipped boring stuff.
> People like you will find menice in their own shadow.
> Doctor Who had many more homosexual references and they weren't
> cloaked in the least, that's if you buy what you said, which I don't.
> Get a grip on yourself... or don't...
Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
(For those of us in the US who have not seen it in around 20 years).
Politics
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78501 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 08:03 |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:10:56 -0700, "John Shocked"
<jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Framester" <chrisframe1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h6bad1hpo7s3ejcndnnl8puj9ooht49vib [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:19 -0700, "John Shocked"
>> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Snipped boring stuff.
>> People like you will find menice in their own shadow.
>> Doctor Who had many more homosexual references and they weren't
>> cloaked in the least, that's if you buy what you said, which I don't.
>> Get a grip on yourself... or don't...
>
>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
>(For those of us in the US who have not seen it in around 20 years).
>
>Politics
>
This year, thanks to RTD (Russell T Davies, executive producer and
writer of many of the episodes). I have learned to ignore them and to
try to enjoy the show, but RTD has turned Doctor Who into a show about
feelings, a character driven show full of emotion rather than a plot
driven show with monsters and making any science fiction elements seem
incidental or in the realm of pure fantasy (some old Who could be pure
fantasy, don't worry I get this). Fortunately I have been able to
still enjoy the show, barely, at times, enough to continue to watch,
but the RTD factor makes me shake my head more than I would like.
It's funny that you would accuse BG of being filled with a gay subtext
as it's lack of one is why I enjoyed it far more than the new Who
series. That, and being able to see it in HD, plus it is just a more
adult show where sexual references don't seem out of place, straight
or gay, while it just doesn't feel right in Doctor Who, but you can't
convince the drooling masses of this.
I think you are way off base with your 'assessment' of BG. Even if
there were a gay subtext, and I don't believe there is one, there is
so much straight sex on the show it should cancel it out easily.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78514 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 14:02 |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
> > These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
> > surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
>
> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
Already done--your denial of your proven lies is not my problem.
> I reprise some of the facts here:
Simply reposting your discredited claims does not make them any more
legitimate, John. Your claims boil down to 2 things: Apollo's supposed rape
symbolism and Boomer's potential lesbianism. In the former case you haven't
explained why similar scenes involving James T. Kirk, Jim Rockford and Matt
Dillon aren't also homosexual, demonstrating that you have a sevee bias
towards BSG. In the latter case, Boomer's lesbianism is not sodomy as you
have defined it (anal sex between men), so it is not evidence of sodomy in
BSG. Stop lying, John.
large snip - same nonsense, different post.
--
Jim Phillips, jay pee aitch eye el el eye pee at bee see pee ell dot net
"Geez, if you're going to get *this* upset whenever I do something stupid,
then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things!"
-- Homer Simpson
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78522 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 16:20 |
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In article <7JkBe.29626$Qo.23632 [at] fed1read01>,
John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
>(For those of us in the US who have not seen it in around 20 years).
One of the current companions is blatantly bi-. Given that this is
a children's show, nothing explicit is ever shown, except an innocent
kiss on the lips ... though as people aren't really reacting to something
like that (well, they may in some backwards countries where the show isn't
aired), then I don't see why the fuss about something like BSG, where
the rest of us can't even see it.
Nick
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78526 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 18:35 |
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Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote:
> John Shocked wrote:
>
>>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
>>(For those of us in the US who have not seen it in around 20 years).
>
> One of the current companions is blatantly bi-. Given that this is
> a children's show, nothing explicit is ever shown, except an innocent
> kiss on the lips ... though as people aren't really reacting to something
> like that (well, they may in some backwards countries where the show isn't
> aired), then I don't see why the fuss about something like BSG, where
> the rest of us can't even see it.
The producer for the new "Dr. Who", Russell Davies, was creative
producer for the original UK "QAF".
C.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78533 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 20:32 |
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In article <FIWdnX5feODeCEvfRVn-hg [at] rogers.com>,
manitou <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote:
>Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>
>> One of the current companions is blatantly bi-. Given that this is
>> a children's show, nothing explicit is ever shown, except an innocent
>> kiss on the lips ... though as people aren't really reacting to something
>> like that (well, they may in some backwards countries where the show isn't
>> aired), then I don't see why the fuss about something like BSG, where
>> the rest of us can't even see it.
>
>The producer for the new "Dr. Who", Russell Davies, was creative
>producer for the original UK "QAF".
Indeed; it was very well publicised in the UK at the time. We were
lucky to get such an acclaimed producer as the show-runner.
Nick
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78535 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 20:50 |
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John Shocked wrote:
> <nuttzy [at] gmail.com> wrote in message news:1121262711.802573.275490 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > So John, to summarize, you're saying you're gay, right? That explains
> > your fixation on the topic.
>
> This is a common habit of Hollywood Homosexuals. Accuse falsely people who
> disagree with them, like J. Edgar Hoover and Alexander The Great of being
> homosexuals.
And you AREN'T accusing falsely of the people who you disagree with??
Wow, you are totally fucked up.
People like you make society realize how normal gay people are compared
to the raving lunatics.
Oh, by the way, what does Hollywood have to gain from 'selling' us
sodomy? More ad revenue? No. Increase in viewership? No. That Spongebob
will convert heteros into homos? No.
Maybe Disney owns KY, Westing House owns Trojan, and General Electric
owns Dolce & Gabbana.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78536 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 21:13 |
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:10:56 -0700, "John Shocked"
<jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Framester" <chrisframe1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h6bad1hpo7s3ejcndnnl8puj9ooht49vib [at] 4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:19 -0700, "John Shocked"
>> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Snipped boring stuff.
>> People like you will find menice in their own shadow.
>> Doctor Who had many more homosexual references and they weren't
>> cloaked in the least, that's if you buy what you said, which I don't.
>> Get a grip on yourself... or don't...
>
>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
Well, this year. Captain Jack sees no reason to limit himself.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78538 ] |
Do, 14 Juli 2005 22:46 |
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On 14 Jul 2005 11:50:11 -0700, depeche_road [at] yahoo.ca wrote:
>People like you make society realize how normal gay people are compared
>to the raving lunatics.
Believe me, normal society realizes that gay people are not normal.
Sodomy is not a normal practice among normal people.
If anything normal people suffer from homonausea.
>Oh, by the way, what does Hollywood have to gain from 'selling' us
>sodomy?
It's obviously a deeply personal issue.
Humorist Norman Liebmann summed it up with this comment:
"A psychiatrist says that the gay community would not run into so much
hostility if its members did not insist on being treated like real
people."
--
Map of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html
"The ultimate result of shielding men from the
effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."
-- Herbert Spencer
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78544 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 03:13 |
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"Richard B" <RCBISCH [at] webtv.net> wrote in message news:2144-42D67B21-8 [at] storefull-3156.bay.webtv.net...
> Theories on John Shocked
> He is not now nor has he ever been married
> He has no children
> Due to the inordinate amount of time he spends posting his rambling
> diatribes he is either retired or on disability (I'm guessing disability)
> I'm I right?
More personal attacks.
This activity again proves that my statements here are accurate and that
there is no argument which can be mustered by the supporters of
Sodomy on TV in BSG.
If you support Sodomy on TV in Battlestar Galactica, then support the activities
of the Hollywood Homosexual public relations hacks who make these
personal attacks. They need your help.
===============================================
I reprise some of the facts here:
1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.
The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.
Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.
Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?
So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.
2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.
3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.
Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.
You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.
Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."
The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."
If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.
As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.
One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.
But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #78556 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 11:13 |
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"SuperFaggot" <witchnet [at] popesnarky.org> wrote in message news:_5HBe.1958824$6l.714422 [at] pd7tw2no...
> Hail Eris! It was a dark and stormy night, when John Shocked wrote:
>> <pbowles [at] aol.com> wrote...
> <snip>
>>> Oscar Wilde: Quite brazen about his sexuality and jailed for it on at
>>> least one occasion (when IIRC he refused to deny the 'charge').
>> It is always an indication of incompetence to use unexplained acronyms
>> like this. People assume you are a fool and ignore what you say.
> "IIRC" = "If I Remember Correctly". Twat.
If he admitted it while he was alive or there is a police record of it such as with Turing,
then that might add some level of acceptability to this allegation behavior.
But this idea of accusing people who are long dead of homosexuality is another
indication that these Hollywood Homosexuals do not respect Life and what
people do and stand for within it.
And if one does not respect Life, then what could possibly be wrong with Sodomy.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80377 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 12:05 |
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"Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050714075536.22877B-100000 [at] mail...
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
>> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
>> > These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
>> > surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
>> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
> Already done--your denial of your proven lies is not my problem.
Show this proof here so that everyone here can bask in your great vision and victory.
>> I reprise some of the facts here:
> Simply reposting your discredited claims does not make them any more
> legitimate, John. Your claims boil down to 2 things: Apollo's supposed rape
> symbolism and Boomer's potential lesbianism. In the former case you haven't
> explained why similar scenes involving James T. Kirk, Jim Rockford and Matt
> Dillon aren't also homosexual, demonstrating that you have a sevee bias
> towards BSG. In the latter case, Boomer's lesbianism is not sodomy as you
> have defined it (anal sex between men), so it is not evidence of sodomy in
> BSG. Stop lying, John.
> large snip - same nonsense, different post.
There are no scenes anything like the Battlestar Galactica Oz homosexual rape
symbolism scenes anywhere else on TV that I have seen.
The scenes in Bastille Daqy and Colonial Day jumped off the screen
to any perceptive viewer of TV.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80378 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 12:11 |
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<depeche_road [at] yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1121367011.722150.196130 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> John Shocked wrote:
>> <nuttzy [at] gmail.com> wrote in message news:1121262711.802573.275490 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > So John, to summarize, you're saying you're gay, right? That explains
>> > your fixation on the topic.
>> This is a common habit of Hollywood Homosexuals. Accuse falsely people who
>> disagree with them, like J. Edgar Hoover and Alexander The Great of being
>> homosexuals.
> And you AREN'T accusing falsely of the people who you disagree with??
> Wow, you are totally fucked up.
> People like you make society realize how normal gay people are compared
> to the raving lunatics.
What am I accusing people of ? I am not accusing anyone here of anything,
besides that they support Sodomy on TV in BSG.
That is what this debate is all about.
If you support Sodomy in TV in BSG, sign up with Grieda.
He is working hard to expose you and your kids to sometimes subliminal
sometimes overt Sodomy content coming right into your home on your TV.
> Oh, by the way, what does Hollywood have to gain from 'selling' us
> sodomy? More ad revenue? No. Increase in viewership? No. That Spongebob
> will convert heteros into homos? No.
> Maybe Disney owns KY, Westing House owns Trojan, and General Electric
> owns Dolce & Gabbana.
No way do they make any extra viewership or money. In fact, they lose money.
But they are so determined to sell Sodomy to you and your kids during this TV era that
they do not care how much of their money and their investors' money they waste.
I can tell you, if I were an investor in BSG, and they took my money and wasted it
selling Sodomy to the science fiction viewers out there, which guarantees reduced
viewership. I would be steaming and would pull my money immediately.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80379 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 12:15 |
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"Glyn" <gkennington [at] claIrVOYaNT.coLD.DuCk> wrote in message news:1121367679.61517.0 [at] doris.uk.clara.net...
> John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> announced:
>> <pbowles [at] aol.com> wrote in message news:1121319360.374437.8470 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> > Oscar Wilde: Quite brazen about his sexuality and jailed for it on at
>> > least one occasion (when IIRC he refused to deny the 'charge').
>> It is always an indication of incompetence to use unexplained acronyms like this.
> It's the sign of an incompetent to find it necessary to post back saying
> "what does IIRC mean?" instead of finding out for themselves - it's not
> an uncommon abbreviation.
These are delusions of grandeur. No one outside of your tiny circle here
could care less about what jargon is used by the public relations workers
and their weak hangers-on who show up on these Newsgroups.
>> People assume you are a fool and ignore what you say.
> Whereas copying the same paragraph into one post three times, and
> sending that post twice, won't lead anyone to think you are a fool?
> If what you have to say is so important and brilliant, people will pay
> attention the first time.
> Glyn
They did. But I refine the truth, learn more, make some major some minor
modifications and then post for a whole new group of people who show up
here and on other Newsgroups.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80380 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 12:32 |
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"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message news:42d674aa$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
> In article <7JkBe.29626$Qo.23632 [at] fed1read01>,
> John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
>>(For those of us in the US who have not seen it in around 20 years).
> One of the current companions is blatantly bi-. Given that this is
> a children's show, nothing explicit is ever shown, except an innocent
> kiss on the lips ... though as people aren't really reacting to something
> like that (well, they may in some backwards countries where the show isn't
> aired), then I don't see why the fuss about something like BSG, where
> the rest of us can't even see it.
> Nick
There is no innocent kissing man to man in this world. Especially on the lips.
You might as well kiss a dog on the lips too.
Sounds like there is a full court press around the world (at least the Western world)
to sell Sodomy to the masses.
What happened in the Jonathan King case over there. It looks like they caught
one of these media Sodomites exploiting young children with pederasty,
and threw him in prison.
How many stars over there have been thrown in prison on such charges over the past decade ?
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80381 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 12:43 |
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"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message news:42d6afad$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
> In article <FIWdnX5feODeCEvfRVn-hg [at] rogers.com>,
> manitou <manitou910 [at] rogers.com> wrote:
>>Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> One of the current companions is blatantly bi-. Given that this is
>>> a children's show, nothing explicit is ever shown, except an innocent
>>> kiss on the lips ... though as people aren't really reacting to something
>>> like that (well, they may in some backwards countries where the show isn't
>>> aired), then I don't see why the fuss about something like BSG, where
>>> the rest of us can't even see it.
>>The producer for the new "Dr. Who", Russell Davies, was creative
>>producer for the original UK "QAF".
> Indeed; it was very well publicised in the UK at the time. We were
> lucky to get such an acclaimed producer as the show-runner.
> Nick
Looks like this new producer has affixed a permanent black mark to the
reputation of the Dr. Who series of series.
This is a massive disgrace and Dr. Who should be banned in the US until this muck
is totally eradicated from the series.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80390 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 13:46 |
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"David Johnston" <rgorman [at] telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:42d66007.9239473 [at] news.telusplanet.net...
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:10:56 -0700, "John Shocked"
> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Framester" <chrisframe1 [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message news:h6bad1hpo7s3ejcndnnl8puj9ooht49vib [at] 4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:19 -0700, "John Shocked"
>>> <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Snipped boring stuff.
>>> People like you will find menice in their own shadow.
>>> Doctor Who had many more homosexual references and they weren't
>>> cloaked in the least, that's if you buy what you said, which I don't.
>>> Get a grip on yourself... or don't...
>>Since what year has Dr. Who had this homosexual content ?
> Well, this year. Captain Jack sees no reason to limit himself.
So how are the English people reacting to this perversion of the Dr. Who storyline ?
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80391 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 13:48 |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050714075536.22877B-100000 [at] mail...
> > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> >> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
> >> > These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
> >> > surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
> >> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
> > Already done--your denial of your proven lies is not my problem.
>
> Show this proof here so that everyone here can bask in your great vision and victory.
Again, already done--your willful ignorance notwithstanding.
> >> I reprise some of the facts here:
> > Simply reposting your discredited claims does not make them any more
> > legitimate, John. Your claims boil down to 2 things: Apollo's supposed rape
> > symbolism and Boomer's potential lesbianism. In the former case you haven't
> > explained why similar scenes involving James T. Kirk, Jim Rockford and Matt
> > Dillon aren't also homosexual, demonstrating that you have a sevee bias
> > towards BSG. In the latter case, Boomer's lesbianism is not sodomy as you
> > have defined it (anal sex between men), so it is not evidence of sodomy in
> > BSG. Stop lying, John.
> > large snip - same nonsense, different post.
>
> There are no scenes anything like the Battlestar Galactica Oz homosexual rape
> symbolism scenes anywhere else on TV that I have seen.
Your willful ignorance is not support of your position, John.
> The scenes in Bastille Daqy and Colonial Day jumped off the screen
> to any perceptive viewer of TV.
And yet you are the *only* one who sees them. If you were honest
with yourself you would jump to the more likely conclusion...
--
Jim Phillips, jay pee aitch eye el el eye pee at bee see pee ell dot net
"Geez, if you're going to get *this* upset whenever I do something stupid,
then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things!"
-- Homer Simpson
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80394 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 15:26 |
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"Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050715074649.3935A-100000 [at] mail...
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
>> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050714075536.22877B-100000 [at] mail...
>> > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, John Shocked wrote:
>> >> "Jim Phillips" <jphillip [at] bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050713080213.10410C-100000 [at] mail...
>> >> > These are the same tired claims, so the title is a lie (no real
>> >> > surprise there). Stop lying, John--it's bad for your soul.
>> >> It is the truth. Prove me wrong.
>> > Already done--your denial of your proven lies is not my problem.
>> Show this proof here so that everyone here can bask in your great vision and victory.
> Again, already done--your willful ignorance notwithstanding.
False, you have no such evidence.
>> >> I reprise some of the facts here:
>> > Simply reposting your discredited claims does not make them any more
>> > legitimate, John. Your claims boil down to 2 things: Apollo's supposed rape
>> > symbolism and Boomer's potential lesbianism. In the former case you haven't
>> > explained why similar scenes involving James T. Kirk, Jim Rockford and Matt
>> > Dillon aren't also homosexual, demonstrating that you have a sevee bias
>> > towards BSG. In the latter case, Boomer's lesbianism is not sodomy as you
>> > have defined it (anal sex between men), so it is not evidence of sodomy in
>> > BSG. Stop lying, John.
>> > large snip - same nonsense, different post.
>> There are no scenes anything like the Battlestar Galactica Oz homosexual rape
>> symbolism scenes anywhere else on TV that I have seen.
> Your willful ignorance is not support of your position, John.
If you can identify other TV scenes which use this sam BSG/Oz-HBO
Sodomy symbolism, post it here.
>> The scenes in Bastille Day and Colonial Day jumped off the screen
>> to any perceptive viewer of TV.
> And yet you are the *only* one who sees them. If you were honest
> with yourself you would jump to the more likely conclusion...
As has already been established here, Saturday Night Live saw it, TV Guide saw it.
Lot of experienced culture experts saw it and SNL parodied it about 2 weeks
after I started talking about it on the Internet.
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In article <zrMBe.30024$Qo.5688 [at] fed1read01>,
John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Looks like this new producer has affixed a permanent black mark to the
>reputation of the Dr. Who series of series.
Indeed he has! After many years of being in the red, the series is
now safely in the black; resulting in a 2-year renewal!! Isn't it great!
Nick
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Fr, 15 Juli 2005 18:36 |
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In article <UgMBe.30023$Qo.12451 [at] fed1read01>,
John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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>There is no innocent kissing man to man in this world. Especially on the lips.
>You might as well kiss a dog on the lips too.
Your one sick fuck. Hopefully someone shoots you dead soon.
Nick
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80415 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 20:40 |
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"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message news:42d7e610$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
> In article <UgMBe.30023$Qo.12451 [at] fed1read01>,
> John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>There is no innocent kissing man to man in this world. Especially on the lips.
>>You might as well kiss a dog on the lips too.
> Your one sick fuck. Hopefully someone shoots you dead soon.
> Nick
Another Hollywood Homosexual threat.
What 'nice', 'gentile' 'shrinking violets' these people are.
================================================
One of the reasons the Hollywood Homosexuals behind Battlestar Galactica
are pushing Sodomy symbolisms in BSG is because they would desperately
like to reverse some of the following results which they encountered in
all 11 states in the US on November 3 2004 (US election day) which had
Ballot Questions (plebiscital votes by voters in a state controlling their
own state's laws) on the Homosexual Marriage agenda. So if you are
watching your favorite science fiction show and then you notice something
in the script which does not make sense, it may be that it was time for
Word From BSG's Sponsor, the Hollywood Homosexuals who are using the
script as their advertisement vehicle.
Homosexuals have had control of Hollywood since around 1992, when Clinton
(and Jerry Brown) ran for President the first time. Even though they have
been pushing their agenda hard for all these years, they are yet to win a
single statewide vote. Clinton took homosexual money in 1992 and as soon
as he was inaugurated started to implement policies that he was bought and
paid to implement -- Gays In The Military, in 1993. This was an intense
unpopular policy initiative, shocked the public, and resulted in the
Democrats losing both Houses of Congress in 1994, and started a series of
investigations into Clinton's personal life, resulting finally in his
Impeachment in 1998. John Kerry (Democrat 2004 Presidential Candidate)
again took homosexual money in the 2004 election year. Democrats do not
have many sources of money, representing the poorer segments of society.
Since Kerry was from the state of Massachusetts, a state which earlier in
2004 legalized Homosexual Marriage through a corrupt bribed out Judges
judicial decision (not a vote by its legislature) the onus was on John
Kerry to separate himself from this suicidal issue in a very public
manner.
However, because Kerry took Hollywood Homosexual money in the 2004
year and before, he simply was not able to do that. Thus in a year when Kerry
was running for President against George W. Bush, who had a terrible
record, who had had the Economy collapse early in his first year (2001)
and it stayed that way till mid 2004, who also failed to prevent the 9-11
Attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001, who lied to drag the US into
a war against Iraq, when his allegations that Iraq had Weapons Of Mass
Destruction were false and various other failures, Kerry still could not
win because of the Homosexual agenda ball and chain around his neck.
Kerry should have won this race 55%-45% if he was not carrying this
Homosexual agenda ball and chain. And the following votes are an in
indication of how strongly people felt against this homosexual agenda
Kerry was pushing.
Several of these 11 states were Swing States -- they were close in the
previous election and would decide the election in 2004. Many people went
to vote against the Homosexual Agenda, and voted against Kerry as an
afterthought.
Now, Hollywood Homosexuals are wealthy fatcats and, despite popular
misconceptions, are overwhelming Republican. They do not want Democrats
like John Kerry to win and then raise their taxes. Thus, there may well be
a scam going on here, to buy the Democrat candidate each year and ask him
to support something the US public despises -- this time it was Homosexual
Marriage. If this buying every 4 years of the Democrat candidate by
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats continues, it could be an extremely long time
before the Democrats ever come close to taking back any of the branches of
government again.
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No, Hollywood Homosexuals are Republicans and should be Republicans.
The Sodomy issue, along with similar ACLU issues like the
Legalization of Drugs, is one of those selfish issues
that generally come under the title "civil liberties". These
are 'leave me alone', 'let me do what I want to do', "do not raise my taxes",
"keep the government out of my life";
selfish issues that are not just conservative, but libertarian in nature. .
Heck, if not for the federal government, Unions would not exist. If not for
the federal government, Blacks and Women would not have Civil Rights. If
not for the federal government, there would be no 60's Great Society
programs for The Poor, or what is left of those programs since Clinton (a
big homosexual rights Gays In The Military supporter) rolled them back.
The federal government passed the Defense Of Marriage Act which was
anti-homosexual marriage rights.
The response of Hollywood Homosexuals ? Try to negate the federal
government laws in the Courts by playing up this crap that the
Federal Courts can negate the laws created by the will of the people
(Judicial Review, they call it).
The same US Supreme Court that ruled in Plessy vs Ferguson in 1896 in the
"Separate But Equal" decision that Blacks were second class citizens and that
segregation was ok.
It was only in the 1950's, when the US Supreme Court was dominated by
non-Judges (only one of the 9 judges then had a judicial background -- the
Chief Justice was Governor of California immediately before joining the US
Supreme Court in 1953), that Brown vs Board of Education (1954) reversed
the corrupt Plessy decision.
And I should mention that the 14th Amendment passed right after the US Civil
War which ended Slavery, banned any kind of racial segregation State Laws,
so the 1896 decision was unconstitutional, on its face.
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Some examples of Unconstitutional decisions by the US Supreme Court
which hurt the little guy:
1) The Poor (1930's FDR impasse broken in 1937 when President Roosevelt
threatened to pack the Supreme Court),
2) Blacks (1896 Plessy vs Ferguson, legalizing racial segregation
southern State laws, an incredible decision, totally repudiating the 14th Amendment),
3) Unions (1930's FDR impasse broken in 1937 when President Roosevelt
threatened to pack the Supreme Court),
4) Women (denied the right to vote under 14th Amendment in
Minor vs Happersett (1874)
5) The "Corporation" created out of thin air in the 14th Amendment:
Robber Barons at the turn of the century (ca 1900) and today's Enron
alike, loved this decision. This was a US Supreme Court decision which
abused the 14th Amendment, which they refused to use to protect the intended
black men and black women, and instead used to protect predatory
wealthy fatcats. In incredible series of decisions.
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The truth is that Homosexuals have nothing in common with the Left, which
comprises The Poor, Blacks, Unions and Women). They should and do want
opposite solutions in government policy.
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http://www.profam.org/press/thc_pr_040813.htm
In 2000, California voters approved a ballot question (Proposition 22),
defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. In liberal, laid-back
California, the vote in favor of upholding traditional marriage was 61% to
39%. Blacks and Hispanics approved the measure by higher percentages than
whites.
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Here are the results from the 11 States in November 2004 who had the
Homosexual agenda on a ballot question 5 months ago:
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Arkansas Ballot wording: Marriage
consists only of the union of one man and one woman. Legal status for
unmarried persons which is identical or substantially similar to marital
status shall not be valid or recognized in Arkansas, except that the
legislature may recognize a common law marriage from another state between
a man and a woman. The legislature has the power to determine the capacity
of persons to marry, subject to this amendment, and the legal rights,
obligations, privileges, and immunities of marriage.Result: Passed 75% to
25%
Georgia The measure amends the state constitution to include the following
statement: (a) This state shall recognize as marriage only the union of
man and woman. Marriages between persons of the same sex are prohibited in
this state. (b) No union between persons of the same sex shall be
recognized by this state as entitled to the benefits of marriage. This
state shall not give effect to any public act, record, or judicial
proceeding of any other state or jurisdiction respecting a relationship
between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the
laws of such other state or jurisdiction. The courts of this state shall
have no jurisdiction to grant a divorce or separate maintenance with
respect to any such relationship or otherwise to consider or rule on any
of the parties' respective rights arising as a result of or in connection
with such relationship.Result: Passed 77% to 23%.
Kentucky Only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or
recognized as a marriage in Kentucky. A legal status identical or
substantially similar to that of marriage for unmarried individuals shall
not be valid or recognized.Result: Passed: 75% to 25%.
Michigan The measure amends the state constitution to include the
following statement: To secure and preserve the benefits of marriage for
our society and for future generations of children, the union of one man
and one woman in marriage shall be the only agreement recognized as a
marriage or similar union for any purpose.Result: Passed: 59% to 41%.
Mississippi The measure amends the state constitution to read: Marriage
may take place and may be valid under the laws of this state only between
a man and a woman. A marriage in another state or foreign jurisdiction
between persons of the same gender, regardless of when the marriage took
place, may not be recognized in this state and is void and unenforceable
under the laws of this state.Result: Passed: 86% to 14%.
Montana The measure amends the state constitution to read: Only a marriage
between one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage
in this state.Result: Passed: 66% to 34%.
North Dakota The measure amends the state constitution to include the
following statement: Marriage consists only of the legal union between a
man and a woman. No other domestic union, however denominated, may be
recognized as a marriage or given the same or substantially equivalent
effect.Result: Passed 73% to 24%.
Ohio The measure amends the state constitution to include the following
statement: Only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage
valid in or recognized by this state and its political subdivisions. This
state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal
status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to
approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of
marriage.Result: Passed 62% to 38%.
Oklahoma The measure amends the state constitution to read: A Marriage
in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.
Neither this Constitution nor any other provision of law shall be
construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be
conferred upon unmarried couples or groups. B. A marriage between persons
of the same gender performed in another state shall not be recognized as
valid and binding in this state as of the date of the marriage. C. Any
person knowingly issuing a marriage license in violation of this section
shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.Result: Passed 76% to 24%.
Oregon The measure would amend the state constitution to read: It is the
policy of Oregon, and its political subdivisions, that only a marriage
between one man and one woman shall be valid or legally recognized as a
marriage.Result: Passed 57% to 43%.
Utah The measure amends the state constitution to read, 1. Marriage
consists only of the legal union between a man and a woman. 2. No other
domestic status or union, however denominated, between persons is valid or
recognized or may be authorized, sanctioned, or given the same or
substantially equivalent legal effect as a marriage. Results: Passed 66%
to 34%.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80416 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 20:46 |
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"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message news:42d7e5d8$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
> In article <zrMBe.30024$Qo.5688 [at] fed1read01>,
> John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Looks like this new producer has affixed a permanent black mark to the
>>reputation of the Dr. Who series of series.
> Indeed he has! After many years of being in the red, the series is
> now safely in the black; resulting in a 2-year renewal!! Isn't it great!
> Nick
Sounds like they have cut production costs by focusing on Sodomy 'relationships'
rather than portraying the science fiction that people watch the series to see.
How many of the past 20 years has there been a Dr. Who series on UK TV ?
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80419 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 22:05 |
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80422 ] |
Fr, 15 Juli 2005 23:45 |
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:11:44 -0700, "John Shocked"
<jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
><depeche_road [at] yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1121367011.722150.196130 [at] g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> John Shocked wrote:
>>> <nuttzy [at] gmail.com> wrote in message news:1121262711.802573.275490 [at] g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> > So John, to summarize, you're saying you're gay, right? That explains
>>> > your fixation on the topic.
>>> This is a common habit of Hollywood Homosexuals. Accuse falsely people who
>>> disagree with them, like J. Edgar Hoover and Alexander The Great of being
>>> homosexuals.
>> And you AREN'T accusing falsely of the people who you disagree with??
>> Wow, you are totally fucked up.
>> People like you make society realize how normal gay people are compared
>> to the raving lunatics.
>
>What am I accusing people of ? I am not accusing anyone here of anything,
>besides that they support Sodomy on TV in BSG.
>That is what this debate is all about.
>If you support Sodomy in TV in BSG, sign up with Grieda.
>He is working hard to expose you and your kids to sometimes subliminal
>sometimes overt Sodomy content coming right into your home on your TV.
>
>> Oh, by the way, what does Hollywood have to gain from 'selling' us
>> sodomy? More ad revenue? No. Increase in viewership? No. That Spongebob
>> will convert heteros into homos? No.
>> Maybe Disney owns KY, Westing House owns Trojan, and General Electric
>> owns Dolce & Gabbana.
>
>No way do they make any extra viewership or money. In fact, they lose money.
>But they are so determined to sell Sodomy to you and your kids during this TV era that
>they do not care how much of their money and their investors' money they waste.
>I can tell you, if I were an investor in BSG, and they took my money and wasted it
>selling Sodomy to the science fiction viewers out there, which guarantees reduced
>viewership. I would be steaming and would pull my money immediately.
>
>Politics
>
First of all, the new BG is not a kids show and not something I would
let my children watch. Second, there is no gay sex that I can see on
that show, and even if there was some kind of subliminal message, it's
more than offset by the overt heterosexuality in every episode.
I hope you are getting your trolling money's worth.
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80424 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 00:47 |
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>>>
>>> Oh, by the way, what does Hollywood have to gain from 'selling' us
>>> sodomy? More ad revenue? No. Increase in viewership? No. That Spongebob
>>> will convert heteros into homos? No.
>>> Maybe Disney owns KY, Westing House owns Trojan, and General Electric
>>> owns Dolce & Gabbana.
>>
>>
>>No way do they make any extra viewership or money. In fact, they lose money.
>>But they are so determined to sell Sodomy to you and your kids during this TV era that
>>they do not care how much of their money and their investors' money they waste.
>>I can tell you, if I were an investor in BSG, and they took my money and wasted it
>>selling Sodomy to the science fiction viewers out there, which guarantees reduced
>>viewership. I would be steaming and would pull my money immediately.
>>
>>
>>Politics
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>
>
>First of all, the new BG is not a kids show and not something I would
>let my children watch. Second, there is no gay sex that I can see on
>that show, and even if there was some kind of subliminal message, it's
>more than offset by the overt heterosexuality in every episode.
Didn't he claim that all the relationships between humans and Cylons
were examples of 'bestiality'? So that covers Baltar/Number Six (when
*is* she going to get a proper name like all the other Cylons?),
Boomer/Tyrol, Boomer/Helo and most likely Tigh/Helen. Is there anyone
left in a heterosexual relationship apart from Billy/Dee?
Hang on ... even that's *one more than all the homosexual relationships
in the series put together*. That's the secret after all - BSG isn't
promoting homosexuality, it's promoting sex with robots.
Philip Bowles
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80427 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 01:24 |
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In article <3rTBe.30057$Qo.12171 [at] fed1read01>,
John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Another Hollywood Homosexual threat.
>What 'nice', 'gentile' 'shrinking violets' these people are.
?? Never been to Hollywood. Or California. I keep out of the
USA as much as possible ... too weird. But hang on, I didn't
read most of your diatribe ... but you claim BSG plotting
is in response to events that happened in November 2004? That
doesn't make much sense, does it. The movie was aired in 2003,
and Season 1 started in October 2004. By November 2004, it was
pretty much all in the can ...
I don't know what your problem is ... apart from being a bigot, but
perhaps you could could post your bigotry eleswhere ... like
alt.kukluxklan or something.
Nick
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80428 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 01:28 |
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In article <gwTBe.30058$Qo.21297 [at] fed1read01>,
John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message
>news:42d7e5d8$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
>> ... After many years of being in the red, the series is
>> now safely in the black; resulting in a 2-year renewal!! Isn't it great!
>
>Sounds like they have cut production costs ...
No, once again you are wrong. The budget is huge compared to what it
used to be. And appears to be going up.
Nick
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80431 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 01:59 |
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"SuperFaggot" <witchnet [at] popesnarky.org> wrote in message news:PQQBe.1959856$Xk.845722 [at] pd7tw3no...
> Hail Eris! It was a dark and stormy night in alt.politics.homosexuality,
> when John Shocked wrote:
>> "SuperFaggot" wrote...
>>> Hail Eris! It was a dark and stormy night, when John Shocked wrote:
>>>> <pbowles [at] aol.com> wrote...
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Oscar Wilde: Quite brazen about his sexuality and jailed for it on at
>>>>> least one occasion (when IIRC he refused to deny the 'charge').
>>>> It is always an indication of incompetence to use unexplained acronyms
>>>> like this. People assume you are a fool and ignore what you say.
>>> "IIRC" = "If I Remember Correctly". Twat.
>> If he admitted it while he was alive or there is a police record of it
>> such as with Turing, then that might add some level of acceptability to
>> this allegation behavior. But this idea of accusing people who are long
>> dead of homosexuality is another indication that these Hollywood
>> Homosexuals do not respect Life and what people do and stand for within
>> it. And if one does not respect Life, then what could possibly be wrong
>> with Sodomy.
>> Politics
> You _are_ a twat, and one utterly without an ability to understand what
> words mean. Oscar Wilde was "quite brazen about his sexuality and jailed
> for it on at least one occasion" (he was bi).
If he was open about it then maybe it is true and is not as deceitful a matter to
which to refer as the other obvious deceitful false allegations made by the
Hollywood Homosexual lobby
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80443 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 05:22 |
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"Bob" <spam [at] uce.gov> wrote in message
news:42d6cdde.352876578 [at] news-server.houston.rr.com...
> On 14 Jul 2005 11:50:11 -0700, depeche_road [at] yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>>People like you make society realize how normal gay people are compared
>>to the raving lunatics.
>
> Believe me, normal society realizes that gay people are not normal.
> Sodomy is not a normal practice among normal people.
>
Really? The last time I looked around online about such things the figure I
came up was that 25% of American heterosexuals had tried anal intercourse at
least once, and given the attitudes of many people about the practice I
suspect it was underreported.
Beats me why people get so upset about gays.
tim gueguen 101867
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| Re: Homosexuality in Battlestar Galactica -- some of the case #2 [message #80453 ] |
Sa, 16 Juli 2005 08:50 |
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"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message news:42d846a4$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
> In article <gwTBe.30058$Qo.21297 [at] fed1read01>,
> John Shocked <jshocked [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Nicholas Fitzpatrick" <nfitz [at] sentex> wrote in message
>>news:42d7e5d8$1 [at] news.sentex.net...
>>> ... After many years of being in the red, the series is
>>> now safely in the black; resulting in a 2-year renewal!! Isn't it great!
>>Sounds like they have cut production costs ...
> No, once again you are wrong. The budget is huge compared to what it
> used to be. And appears to be going up.
> Nick
So what are the ratings for the show. How many people are watching
this new incarnation of Dr. Who, compared to the competition ?
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