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Miscellaneous / Verschiedenes » alt.fan.james-bond » Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings
Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #300596] Mo, 17 Juli 2006 00:45
Lazenbyland  
These are the current individual DVD sales rankings of the Bond
Ultimate Edition DVDs due for release on 17th July 2006

1. Goldfinger #351
2. Doctor No #562
3. From Russia with Love #670
4. License To Kill #683
5. O.H.M.S.S.#703
6. Live and Let Die #1074
7. Thunderball #1099
8. GoldenEye #1150
9. You Only Live Twice #1153
10.The Spy Who Loved Me 1176
11.The Living Daylights #1269
12.Moonraker #1282
13.The World is Not Enough #1406
14.Die Another Day #1800
15.Tomorrow never Dies #2110
16.Diamonds Are Forever #2830
17.The Man With The Golden Gun #4593
18.For Your Eyes Only #4698
19.Octopussy #8501
20.A View To A Kill #11290
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303411 ] Di, 18 Juli 2006 23:39
WQ  
Spidysense wrote:
> These are the current individual DVD sales rankings of the Bond
> Ultimate Edition DVDs due for release on 17th July 2006
>
> 1. Goldfinger #351
> 2. Doctor No #562
> 3. From Russia with Love #670
> 4. License To Kill #683
> 5. O.H.M.S.S.#703
> 6. Live and Let Die #1074
> 7. Thunderball #1099
> 8. GoldenEye #1150
> 9. You Only Live Twice #1153
> 10.The Spy Who Loved Me 1176
> 11.The Living Daylights #1269
> 12.Moonraker #1282
> 13.The World is Not Enough #1406
> 14.Die Another Day #1800
> 15.Tomorrow never Dies #2110
> 16.Diamonds Are Forever #2830
> 17.The Man With The Golden Gun #4593
> 18.For Your Eyes Only #4698
> 19.Octopussy #8501
> 20.A View To A Kill #11290

--- As I understand the sales figures, they seem to make sense for the
most part. GF must be regarded as the most "accessible" of all the
Bond films, so its placement at the top is no mystery. I remember
wanting to corrupt my 10 and 12-year-old nieces a couple of years ago
to Bond films for the first time and had to decide how I would
introduce the man to them. Obviously, it would have to be with the
Connerys first and while I find FRWL as the best of the lot, I felt GF
would play better to a 10 and 12-year-old mindset, and it did. So I
think GF has a universality about it that justifies it being at the top
of this list.

DN as #2 makes sense in that it's the first of Connery's films, and the
first in the series. OHMSS, LALD and GE also rank up there as the first
of Lazenby, Moore and Brosnan. FRWL is the true classic of the lot and
it's rightfully placed at #3. I would've thought that TB would come in
at #4, but somehow there's something screwy here with LTK in that
position. Is LTK considered a late-bloomer in the same way OHMSS has
been, explaining its surprisingly high DVD sales ranking, one that's
higher than Dalton's first entry, TLD? Some kind of an inexplicable
aberration there.

The rest of the list from #9 down looks as it should, in terms of those
titles ranking in the bottom half, although the order is a bit out of
whack with some of them, i.e. FYEO should be higher and DAD lower.
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303421 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 01:21
phil.gerrard1  
WQ wrote:

> I would've thought that TB would come in
> at #4, but somehow there's something screwy here with LTK in that
> position. Is LTK considered a late-bloomer in the same way OHMSS has
> been, explaining its surprisingly high DVD sales ranking, one that's
> higher than Dalton's first entry, TLD? Some kind of an inexplicable
> aberration there.

I'd like to believe that it's because people have belatedly realised
just how good the film is. However, since this list is the one posted
by Amazon UK, I suspect the truth is that LTK is doing especially well
because this is the first time it's been released uncut over here.

Best

Phil
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303422 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 01:23
Mac  
WQ wrote:

> DN as #2 makes sense in that it's the first of Connery's films, and
> the first in the series. OHMSS, LALD and GE also rank up there as the
> first of Lazenby, Moore and Brosnan. FRWL is the true classic of the
> lot and it's rightfully placed at #3. I would've thought that TB
> would come in at #4, but somehow there's something screwy here with
> LTK in that position. Is LTK considered a late-bloomer in the same
> way OHMSS has been, explaining its surprisingly high DVD sales
> ranking, one that's higher than Dalton's first entry, TLD? Some kind
> of an inexplicable aberration there.

The inital sales are amongst the hardcore, and LICENCE TO KILL has been
publicised as being fully uncut and complete on DVD for the first time.
The sales figures will change over the course of time.
--
--Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303426 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 01:33
Mac  
phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:

> WQ wrote:
>
>> I would've thought that TB would come in
>> at #4, but somehow there's something screwy here with LTK in that
>> position. Is LTK considered a late-bloomer in the same way OHMSS has
>> been, explaining its surprisingly high DVD sales ranking, one that's
>> higher than Dalton's first entry, TLD? Some kind of an inexplicable
>> aberration there.
>
> I'd like to believe that it's because people have belatedly realised
> just how good the film is. However, since this list is the one posted
> by Amazon UK, I suspect the truth is that LTK is doing especially
> well because this is the first time it's been released uncut over
> here.

Uncut *anywhere* on DVD. This is the fully uncut LICENCE TO KILL.
--
--Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303444 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 06:33
WQ  
Mac wrote:
> phil.gerrard [at] ntlworld.com wrote:
>
> > WQ wrote:
> >
> >> I would've thought that TB would come in
> >> at #4, but somehow there's something screwy here with LTK in that
> >> position. Is LTK considered a late-bloomer in the same way OHMSS has
> >> been, explaining its surprisingly high DVD sales ranking, one that's
> >> higher than Dalton's first entry, TLD? Some kind of an inexplicable
> >> aberration there.
> >
> > I'd like to believe that it's because people have belatedly realised
> > just how good the film is. However, since this list is the one posted
> > by Amazon UK, I suspect the truth is that LTK is doing especially
> > well because this is the first time it's been released uncut over
> > here.
>
> Uncut *anywhere* on DVD. This is the fully uncut LICENCE TO KILL.

--- Excuse my ignorance, but the difference between it and the
"original" I saw in the theater being...?

> --
> --Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303458 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 11:27
Mac  
WQ wrote:

>> Uncut *anywhere* on DVD. This is the fully uncut LICENCE TO KILL.
>
> --- Excuse my ignorance, but the difference between it and the
> "original" I saw in the theater being...?

You saw an MPAA censored version.

Felix's maiming contains an underwater shot of the bloody stump of his
leg that is not seen in the US version; Krest's death contains a close-up
shot of his blood splattering on the decompression chamber window - rather
than the cutaway to Perez's reaction seen in the US and Japanese versions;
Dario's death contains a lengthy shot of chunks of, um, Dario being spat out
by the crusher and Sanchez's fiery death is longer, there is no insert of
Bond moving away until the first small explosion (Sanchez is seen on his
feet waving his arms and screaming before dropping to his knees).
--
--Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303466 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 15:12
WQ  
Mac wrote:
> WQ wrote:
>
> >> Uncut *anywhere* on DVD. This is the fully uncut LICENCE TO KILL.
> >
> > --- Excuse my ignorance, but the difference between it and the
> > "original" I saw in the theater being...?
>
> You saw an MPAA censored version.
>
> Felix's maiming contains an underwater shot of the bloody stump of his
> leg that is not seen in the US version; Krest's death contains a close-up
> shot of his blood splattering on the decompression chamber window - rather
> than the cutaway to Perez's reaction seen in the US and Japanese versions;
> Dario's death contains a lengthy shot of chunks of, um, Dario being spat out
> by the crusher and Sanchez's fiery death is longer, there is no insert of
> Bond moving away until the first small explosion (Sanchez is seen on his
> feet waving his arms and screaming before dropping to his knees).

--- I don't know if that's the MPAA censored version or the Brit
censored version because I do recall having seen all that. MPAA rates
what producers want viewed, but producers will "censor" themselves if
they don't like the MPAA rating they get. In Britain, however, the
censor board appears to be a bit stricter in terms of what violence is
seen on the screen, whether the producer likes it or not. Such is my
understanding.


> --
> --Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303469 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:14
Mac  
WQ wrote:

> --- I don't know if that's the MPAA censored version or the Brit
> censored version because I do recall having seen all that. MPAA rates
> what producers want viewed, but producers will "censor" themselves if
> they don't like the MPAA rating they get. In Britain, however, the
> censor board appears to be a bit stricter in terms of what violence is
> seen on the screen, whether the producer likes it or not. Such is my
> understanding.

It was. The version that has been available in Britain since the SE
DVD's were released is the same cut as the US, but it is *still*
censored. You may think you saw the footage, but I assure you
you didn't.

The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.

The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.

I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.
--
--Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303472 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:27
WQ  
Mac wrote:
> WQ wrote:
>
> > --- I don't know if that's the MPAA censored version or the Brit
> > censored version because I do recall having seen all that. MPAA rates
> > what producers want viewed, but producers will "censor" themselves if
> > they don't like the MPAA rating they get. In Britain, however, the
> > censor board appears to be a bit stricter in terms of what violence is
> > seen on the screen, whether the producer likes it or not. Such is my
> > understanding.
>
> It was. The version that has been available in Britain since the SE
> DVD's were released is the same cut as the US, but it is *still*
> censored. You may think you saw the footage, but I assure you
> you didn't.

--- I live in Canada, not the U.S. Quebec specifically. And in
Quebec, where there's practically no censorship and is independent of
Canadian federal norms of how films are shown, when and where, I'm
absolutely sure I saw the uncut version since all of those scenes ring
loud bells. So different are Quebec's standards from even the rest of
Canada, never mind the U.S., that things will be shown here that won't
be shown in the next door province of Ontario. I recall seeing NSNA in
Quebec and again with some friends in Ontario and was surprised to find
that the Ontario version cut the scene of Fiona blowing up after she
was hit by Bond's pen gun. I remember that because I remember telling
my friends what was cut. So if you always want to see complete
versions of films as they're meant to be seen, see them in Quebec.

> The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
> currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
> researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
> across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
> a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.
>
> The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
> theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.
>
> I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.

--- I'm impressed. But I live in Quebec, so I know what I saw.

> --
> --Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303476 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:35
Mac  
WQ wrote:

>> The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
>> currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
>> researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
>> across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
>> a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.
>>
>> The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
>> theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.
>>
>> I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.
>
> --- I'm impressed. But I live in Quebec, so I know what I saw.

On video?
--
--Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303480 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 16:43
WQ  
Mac wrote:
> WQ wrote:
>
> >> The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
> >> currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
> >> researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
> >> across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
> >> a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.
> >>
> >> The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
> >> theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.
> >>
> >> I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.
> >
> > --- I'm impressed. But I live in Quebec, so I know what I saw.
>
> On video?

--- In the theater, never seen the video. I only watch the Connerys
and Lazenby on video.


> --
> --Mac
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303527 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 21:40
Blofelds Cat  
"Mac" <see.mac [at] SPAMLESSvirgin.net> wrote in message
news:4i6t23F2djsaU1 [at] individual.net...
> WQ wrote:
>
>> --- I don't know if that's the MPAA censored version or the Brit
>> censored version because I do recall having seen all that. MPAA rates
>> what producers want viewed, but producers will "censor" themselves if
>> they don't like the MPAA rating they get. In Britain, however, the
>> censor board appears to be a bit stricter in terms of what violence is
>> seen on the screen, whether the producer likes it or not. Such is my
>> understanding.
>
> It was. The version that has been available in Britain since the SE
> DVD's were released is the same cut as the US, but it is *still*
> censored. You may think you saw the footage, but I assure you
> you didn't.
>
> The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
> currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
> researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
> across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
> a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.
>
> The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
> theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.
>
> I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.

Mac, I have a legit version of an Australian VHS release of LTK (Time Life
mail order edition, 1992) and I can confirm that it contains the uncut
version to which you refer. I only came into possession of this tape last
year while putting together a collection of OO7 VHS sleeves. Never thought
to check the tape itself (...er ...don't care too much for LTK, you see)
until I read your most recent posts on the matter of cuts to the film. I
have compared the scenes of the VHS tape to those of the R4 DVD and while
the DVD is cut, the VHS version is not.

If you require any further info on this, feel free to contact me at
feedbackATSYMBOLohmss-007.com.

I seem to recall that you asked me about the Australian VHS release many
years ago.

cheers,

Blofelds Cat
Re: Ultimate DVD Sales Rankings [message #303543 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 23:17
Mac  
Blofelds Cat wrote:

>> The USA version is subject to cuts enforced by the MPAA. The version
>> currently available in the US is cut. Believe me, I've written and
>> researched on this subject. I have dozens of copies of this film from
>> across the globe (long-time posters here will verify). There is also
>> a Video Watchdog article on the cutting of LICENCE TO KILL.
>>
>> The fully uncut version of LICENCE TO KILL was only released
>> theatrically (and on VHS) in Holland, Scandinavia and Brazil.
>>
>> I supplied John Cork with information for this new release.
>
> Mac, I have a legit version of an Australian VHS release of LTK (Time
> Life mail order edition, 1992) and I can confirm that it contains the
> uncut version to which you refer. I only came into possession of this
> tape last year while putting together a collection of OO7 VHS
> sleeves. Never thought to check the tape itself (...er ...don't care
> too much for LTK, you see) until I read your most recent posts on the
> matter of cuts to the film. I have compared the scenes of the VHS
> tape to those of the R4 DVD and while the DVD is cut, the VHS version
> is not.
>
> If you require any further info on this, feel free to contact me at
> feedbackATSYMBOLohmss-007.com.
>
> I seem to recall that you asked me about the Australian VHS release
> many years ago.

I did! And thanks for the info, BC! I will certainly be in touch for more
details.
--
--Mac
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