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Fantasy » alt.fan.harry-potter » Harry as a Horcrux
Harry as a Horcrux [message #290833] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 09:21
mitch  
I know this topic has been done to death already, however an idea just
sprung to mind.

At the end of book four, LV used Harry's blood in his resurrection.

Now, if the theory of
Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that horcrux
by using Harry's blood???

This might also account for the gleam of triumph that DD displays when Harry
reports this fact to him.
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291481 ] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 19:32
Kish  
Mitch wrote:

> Now, if the theory of
> Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that horcrux
> by using Harry's blood???

You don't use up Horcruxes.
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291482 ] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 20:08
Snake Lady  
Kish wrote:
> Mitch wrote:
>
>> Now, if the theory of
>> Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that
>> horcrux by using Harry's blood???
>
> You don't use up Horcruxes.

How do you know?....Have you ever seen one?
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291484 ] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 20:12
Kish  
Swampy Bogtrotter wrote:
> Kish wrote:
>
>>Mitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Now, if the theory of
>>>Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that
>>>horcrux by using Harry's blood???
>>
>>You don't use up Horcruxes.
>
>
> How do you know?....Have you ever seen one?

Are you volunteering to help me make another one--er, I mean, one?
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291489 ] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 21:00
zoltan47  
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:08:23 GMT, "Swampy Bogtrotter"
<samandjanetknox [at] tessco.net> wrote:

>Kish wrote:
>> Mitch wrote:
>>
>>> Now, if the theory of
>>> Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that
>>> horcrux by using Harry's blood???
>>
>> You don't use up Horcruxes.
>
>How do you know?....Have you ever seen one?
>
Read page 503.

Dumbledore states that the seventh piece is now in Voldemort's
regenerated body and was what lived the spectral existence all those
years. He also clearly states that there were six total Horcruxes, two
have been destroyed, and there are four remaining. This means that one
was not used up. This is not speculation on what is or isn't a
Horcrux, but basic information in the very nature of Horcruxes.

This means that a Horcrux protects the piece in the body from a fatal
attack. That piece is not destroyed and replaced by one in a Horcrux.
A Horcrux seems to act as an anchor keeping the original piece on the
current plain.

If a fatal attack would destroy the original piece or you can "use up"
a Horcrux, then the concept that Voldemort made so many wouldn't be so
monstrous. If the idea behind making even one was to ward against
death, then making only one would have limited affect because one
fatal attack would revert you to being mortal. It would be in your
best interest to make more than one of you are going to make any. The
reason Voldemort made six was because the he saw something magical in
having seven soul pieces and because he wanted the extra protection
should anything happen to one or more of the Horcruxes.
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291492 ] Mo, 26 Juni 2006 21:11
David  
Kish wrote:
> Mitch wrote:
>
> > Now, if the theory of
> > Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that horcrux
> > by using Harry's blood???
>
> You don't use up Horcruxes.

New! From Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes! It's Horcrus, now in
convenient two-liter bottles! Be sure to keep a good supply on hand
for the holidays! You wouldn't want to use it up!

But wait - there's more!.....
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #291594 ] Di, 27 Juni 2006 09:43
Toon  
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:05:49 +1000, "Mitch" <mjs [at] fastmail.com.au>
wrote:

>I know this topic has been done to death already, however an idea just
>sprung to mind.
>
>At the end of book four, LV used Harry's blood in his resurrection.
>
>Now, if the theory of
>Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have already used up that horcrux
>by using Harry's blood???
>
>This might also account for the gleam of triumph that DD displays when Harry
>reports this fact to him.
>
>

How do you use up a Horcrux?
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302729 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 06:36
Benjamin Esham  
* Mitch:

> I know this topic has been done to death already, however an idea just
> sprung to mind.
>
> At the end of book four, LV used Harry's blood in his resurrection.
>
> Now, if the theory of Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have
> already used up that horcrux by using Harry's blood???
>
> This might also account for the gleam of triumph that DD displays when
> Harry reports this fact to him.

As far as we know, Dumbledore was not sure that Voldemort had created
horcruxes until midway through HBP. It seems unlikely, therefore, that the
gleam of triumph has anything to do with horcruxes.

--
Benjamin D. Esham
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a
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— Blair Houghton
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302738 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 09:01
Eric Bohlman  
Benjamin Esham <bdesham [at] gmail.com> wrote in
news:pan.2006.07.19.04.35.53.498846 [at] gmail.com:

> As far as we know, Dumbledore was not sure that Voldemort had created
> horcruxes until midway through HBP. It seems unlikely, therefore,
> that the gleam of triumph has anything to do with horcruxes.

According to HBP, Dumbledore was pretty convinced that Voldemort had
created at least one Horcrux as of the end of CoS, and was strongly
suspecting multiple Horcruxes as of the end of GoF. Slughorn's memory
simply clinched it; DD had been considering the possibility (and apparently
hoping, against his better judgment, that it wasn't true) for quite some
time.
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302756 ] Mi, 19 Juli 2006 17:38
David  
Toon wrote:

> How do you use up a Horcrux?

Use it to power a laptop. That seems to kill just about anything.

Once I ran across an Energizer Horcrux. It just kept going and going
and going and...
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302811 ] Do, 20 Juli 2006 05:24
gayi.sreekumar  
hai man well what do u think ih harry was a horcrux why is vol trying
to kill him?who will want ot kill a part of himself especially vol
demort think?
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302824 ] Do, 20 Juli 2006 09:31
Toon  
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 04:36:04 GMT, Benjamin Esham <bdesham [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

>* Mitch:
>
>> I know this topic has been done to death already, however an idea just
>> sprung to mind.
>>
>> At the end of book four, LV used Harry's blood in his resurrection.
>>
>> Now, if the theory of Harry as a horcrux is possible, might LV have
>> already used up that horcrux by using Harry's blood???
>>
>> This might also account for the gleam of triumph that DD displays when
>> Harry reports this fact to him.
>
>As far as we know, Dumbledore was not sure that Voldemort had created
>horcruxes until midway through HBP. It seems unlikely, therefore, that the
>gleam of triumph has anything to do with horcruxes.

Yes he did. He knew from COS. He jut didn't know how many. I
suspect from COS summer on, he was gathering memories. That's why he
was happy to leave in OOP. So he could get more info. and time was
running out. V's back, he's after the prophecy. Harry's in the most
danger ever. and without enough info on the horcruxes, Harry is
destined to fail. So, any time off to gather info on numbers and
locations as a good thing.
Re: Harry as a Horcrux [message #302825 ] Do, 20 Juli 2006 09:33
Toon  
On 19 Jul 2006 20:24:15 -0700, gayi.sreekumar [at] gmail.com wrote:

>
>hai man well what do u think ih harry was a horcrux why is vol trying
>to kill him?who will want ot kill a part of himself especially vol
>demort think?

Well, let's see.
A) V doesn't know he's a horcrux (Untuil the end of OOP).
B) It's killed or be killed. He has enough Horcruxes to go around.
Kill Harry, destroy one horcrux, make a new one with Harry's death.
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